He keeps the barrell relatively high by not dropping his back shoulder. I think "knob to the ball" is a cue to get the hands moving while keeping the front shoulder stationary as long as possible. He loads his back foot and keeps his weight back even while striding forward. He lands softly on his front foot while letting the hands initiate. He then shifts his weight and rotates his hips to generate tremendous power.
They thought for the longest time that they were just swinging down on the ball because thats the feel in their hands. The hands do come down to the ball but they turn the bat rearward as they do and it swings down the back and gets on plane. The barrel never pushes down diagonally with the hands unless you suck at hitting. I understand what hes meaning about not wanting to turn the shoulder, though. He just means don't turn it well before contact and especially don't lift back your posture. Let the shoulders roll on the axis of your spine from a bent over posture. In other more conventional words, "don't fly open" or "don't pull off the ball".
Guys tend to give hitting advice based on what they feel is happening in their swing. The fact is what they feel they are doing most likely is not what they are actually doing. Canseco turned on this ball so hard the torque spun his back around to face the camera. No doubt he absolutely crushed that ball.
Jose was a power hitter. His swing mostly involved his upper body strength. He’s 6’4 so don’t expect much of a bend in his back leg. Frank Thomas back foot came off the ground . Not much of a bend, he was 6’5. They don’t have enough time to come down on their back leg.
Canseco obviously had a good mechanics, but he also always seemed like one of the few mlb players that could get away using mostly his upper body to hit a home run.
There is a simple reason to dispel the shoulder theory. This was an inside pitch. If he did not pull his shoulder out on this swing, that ball would have never stayed fair. He had to pull the shoulder out to accommodate squaring up the barrel of the bat with the ball in a manner to keep the end result a fair ball when hit.
@Don Juan You couldn't be criticizing football players for wearing long skin tight pants, as sprinters wear spandex shorts and tank tops. So I'm sorry but I am missing your point.
No bend, he’s 6”4. He’s a natural power hitter. He didn’t use much of his lower body. If he used his lower body he would be hitting 700 foot homeruns. His shoulders move because he uses very little leg power to stay liner. He generated his power from his waist up. His back foot gives him balance of a power hitter His style was reckless. Not unless you have a bulls like him I wouldn’t recommend it to teach kids.
Folks, I see and hear the same criticism over and over again. I'm from Miami just like Canseco and was taught the same way he was. Its not a good critique to look at an at bat and say well he's not doing what he's teaching. We do drills to teach muscle memory but every pitch we see is different. Your swing off a Tee in the cage on a stationary ball is never gonna be the same as a game situation. I feel like people making these arguments have very little or no experience playin ball at a high level. Again, we setup the Tee to be in the best, most perfect spot to make contact but in a game its not gonna be exact. I've hit homeruns on low and away curveballs totally by luck with my top hand off the bat and I hit bombs on high fastballs. Of course my swing is gonna be totally different but my intention is always to keep my head down, shoulder in, knob to the ball with a downward stroke aiming for th lower half of the ball. Thats what the older big leaguers turned coaches always taught us and guess what? It worked.
Can’t coaches use cues like “drive the knob” or what have you that aren’t necessarily essential to accomplish, but they get the person thinking about the right things?
Sounds like you're trying to bash the original "Bash Brother". He is my favorite player and has been for almost 30 years and nothing will change that. I'm willing to bet that analysis of any player's swing will show variations in their technique. I'm a science geek, but people are wasting too much time on the breakdown of a swing..... you swing a stick of wood at a fist sized moving object. Sometimes you hit, sometimes you miss. The End.
+Josh Barnett i'm just 'bashing' the terrible teaching that won't produce the swing that make Jose Canseco an amazing hitter and a game changing athlete. Kids watch those videos on that app...and I'd never want to limit kids like that app will. Chas--
Seriously!!!! Do you not understand the swing... Pretty obvious arc right!!!! You really think Cansaco doesn't know what his back foot does....Cansaco is speaking to the internal forces and aspects and yes that is from his perspective not yours or the external picture...If I lock my shoulders to my torso and move my torso does my shoulders move...this is a big time and complicated move... But you set you lead shoulder ( and there are multiple ways) and you don't think of moving it... In fact you try to hold it as hard as you can...If done right... Your lead side /shoulder/ armpit... Etc... Ought to feel like your really strong and just wants to go...So your lead side is the power and the back side positions ( linear) that power....So Cansaco is talking about that you don't mess with the lead shoulder.... But you set it and load it and let the lead shoulder go along with the rest or else if your internally trying to move it... You lose it and connection with the lead side which destroys your swing....Your funny... Cansaco doesn't know his lead shoulder moves... Come on he's an idiot and your so smart... Seriously... You really think he thinks his lead shoulder doesn't move at all... Funny!
Love Canseco's swing powerhouse
My favorite player of all time. Saw all his games. Man he was something to watch for a few years!!
He keeps the barrell relatively high by not dropping his back shoulder. I think "knob to the ball" is a cue to get the hands moving while keeping the front shoulder stationary as long as possible. He loads his back foot and keeps his weight back even while striding forward. He lands softly on his front foot while letting the hands initiate. He then shifts his weight and rotates his hips to generate tremendous power.
They thought for the longest time that they were just swinging down on the ball because thats the feel in their hands. The hands do come down to the ball but they turn the bat rearward as they do and it swings down the back and gets on plane. The barrel never pushes down diagonally with the hands unless you suck at hitting. I understand what hes meaning about not wanting to turn the shoulder, though. He just means don't turn it well before contact and especially don't lift back your posture. Let the shoulders roll on the axis of your spine from a bent over posture. In other more conventional words, "don't fly open" or "don't pull off the ball".
Guys tend to give hitting advice based on what they feel is happening in their swing. The fact is what they feel they are doing most likely is not what they are actually doing. Canseco turned on this ball so hard the torque spun his back around to face the camera. No doubt he absolutely crushed that ball.
Jose was a power hitter. His swing mostly involved his upper body strength. He’s 6’4 so don’t expect much of a bend in his back leg. Frank Thomas back foot came off the ground . Not much of a bend, he was 6’5. They don’t have enough time to come down on their back leg.
Canseco obviously had a good mechanics, but he also always seemed like one of the few mlb players that could get away using mostly his upper body to hit a home run.
Back then a lot of guys didn’t have a big load just a step forward with the lower half .
"And it settles into the upper deck"
-Bob Costas
There is a simple reason to dispel the shoulder theory. This was an inside pitch. If he did not pull his shoulder out on this swing, that ball would have never stayed fair. He had to pull the shoulder out to accommodate squaring up the barrel of the bat with the ball in a manner to keep the end result a fair ball when hit.
"The hardest thing in sports to do is hit a round ball with a round bat" -Ted Williams.
Ted Williams obviously never played offensive line. If he did, he wouldn't have lived long enough to speak those words.
@@daniel_moretti lmao
@Don Juan I have no idea what you mean by this?
@Don Juan apparently. I don't know what men in tights has to do with this. What are you referring too?
@Don Juan You couldn't be criticizing football players for wearing long skin tight pants, as sprinters wear spandex shorts and tank tops. So I'm sorry but I am missing your point.
No bend, he’s 6”4. He’s a natural power hitter. He didn’t use much of his lower body. If he used his lower body he would be hitting 700 foot homeruns. His shoulders move because he uses very little leg power to stay liner. He generated his power from his waist up. His back foot gives him balance of a power hitter His style was reckless. Not unless you have a bulls like him I wouldn’t recommend it to teach kids.
Folks, I see and hear the same criticism over and over again. I'm from Miami just like Canseco and was taught the same way he was. Its not a good critique to look at an at bat and say well he's not doing what he's teaching. We do drills to teach muscle memory but every pitch we see is different. Your swing off a Tee in the cage on a stationary ball is never gonna be the same as a game situation. I feel like people making these arguments have very little or no experience playin ball at a high level. Again, we setup the Tee to be in the best, most perfect spot to make contact but in a game its not gonna be exact. I've hit homeruns on low and away curveballs totally by luck with my top hand off the bat and I hit bombs on high fastballs. Of course my swing is gonna be totally different but my intention is always to keep my head down, shoulder in, knob to the ball with a downward stroke aiming for th lower half of the ball. Thats what the older big leaguers turned coaches always taught us and guess what? It worked.
Can’t coaches use cues like “drive the knob” or what have you that aren’t necessarily essential to accomplish, but they get the person thinking about the right things?
Sounds like you're trying to bash the original "Bash Brother". He is my favorite player and has been for almost 30 years and nothing will change that. I'm willing to bet that analysis of any player's swing will show variations in their technique. I'm a science geek, but people are wasting too much time on the breakdown of a swing..... you swing a stick of wood at a fist sized moving object. Sometimes you hit, sometimes you miss. The End.
+Josh Barnett i'm just 'bashing' the terrible teaching that won't produce the swing that make Jose Canseco an amazing hitter and a game changing athlete. Kids watch those videos on that app...and I'd never want to limit kids like that app will. Chas--
Well said brother..my favorite also right there with Barry bonds
Seriously!!!! Do you not understand the swing... Pretty obvious arc right!!!! You really think Cansaco doesn't know what his back foot does....Cansaco is speaking to the internal forces and aspects and yes that is from his perspective not yours or the external picture...If I lock my shoulders to my torso and move my torso does my shoulders move...this is a big time and complicated move... But you set you lead shoulder ( and there are multiple ways) and you don't think of moving it... In fact you try to hold it as hard as you can...If done right... Your lead side /shoulder/ armpit... Etc... Ought to feel like your really strong and just wants to go...So your lead side is the power and the back side positions ( linear) that power....So Cansaco is talking about that you don't mess with the lead shoulder.... But you set it and load it and let the lead shoulder go along with the rest or else if your internally trying to move it... You lose it and connection with the lead side which destroys your swing....Your funny... Cansaco doesn't know his lead shoulder moves... Come on he's an idiot and your so smart... Seriously... You really think he thinks his lead shoulder doesn't move at all... Funny!
steroids is a hell of a drug
Steroids doesn't make u a baseball player erith u can hit or u can't point. Blank.