Just finished a roof replacement project in SW Fla. 12.5Kw roof production, (only took 45% of roof surface on 1750 sq ft house to achieve), with three PowerWalls. Awesome system! Contractor has numerous growing pains and FP&L is a big obstacle but finally finished and producing. Fuel for Tesla Model 3, (and of course the house electricity), now produced by the roof and stored in PowerWalls! With fuel for EV's factored in, break even point is less than seven years, AND...No more hurricane power outages.
7 years is great and less than I expected. I wonder how the resale is as value-add to a home sale. The problem I see is that until recently when OPEC tripled fuel prices there was no real business case for it. Spending $2k a year on electricity for the average home it didn’t make sense to invest ~$30k upgrading your home unless being off the grid is super important. Key for the business really is to get into the new home market. Why replace a perfectly good roof at great cost, just build it right first time.
Absolutely, Tesla's energy projects are a hidden gem that will become massive in say 2023. I have traditional solar PV with micro-inverters and want to add a Powerwall to that system in the near future.
As a couple of other people have noted, a megawatt is a unit of power, *not energy*. Power is the rate at which energy is produced or consumed. A Megapack has three megawatt-HOURS of (absolute maximum) capacity. I'm not sure what the maximum rate of energy delivery is (i.e., the maximum wattage), but the Tesla website suggests it could, at least in theory, supply 500 megawatts of electric power for six hours. Or it could keep a 1000-watt space heater going for 125 days. The practical capacity is probably a bit less. This doesn't affect the main economic point of your video, but it's something that you might as well get right. For reference, a joule is the basic unit of energy in the metric system, and a watt is defined to be a joule per second. Hence a watt-hour is 3600 joules. And of course a mega-whatever is a million whatevers.
Love the updates and I hope these two types of energy systems grow rapidly, the world will need a lot more of these packs and solar Merry Christmas brothers and sisters!
There are actually several things going on to better understand why LFP is good for stationary battery systems: 1. Don't need rare materials mined with child labor coming out of unstable parts of the world. Iron is plentiful and can be gotten anywhere. Lithium can actually be had from a number of different sources when done right and be plentiful. While there are other ingredients, nothing too special with LFP, unlike more traditional Lithium-Ion batteries. Another way to look at this is if Tesla wants to scale this up to having Megapacks all around the world en mass, they can get the raw materials easily and ethically enough to pull it off. They just can't reach this goal with traditional Lithium-Ion batteries unfortunately. The Li-ion deal early on seemed to be more of what technologies they had access to and ready to go at the time instead of a long term plan. 2. LFP is cheaper. You mention this. 3. LFP tends to have a much better cycle life. At this it has a different charge curve where it gets steep at that very end and is rather flat through most of the charge curve. It is pretty easy to have a wide charge window, have a constant charge / discharge rate at almost any charge level, and to have many charge - discharge cycles, potentially going on for decades. These batteries, at least when done right, last a long time. So while you can go on about them being heavier, which doesn't really matter in a stationary setup, it is not really that much of a disadvantage even in a mobile application, and the life of these batteries makes it a very good thing to invest in. I have an LFP battery from a cheap Chinese outfit (pouch battery cells taped together and I had to redo some of the wiring because it was done so poorly) that is 11 years old and it is still kicking strong with nothing special done to it besides just keeping the cells from either getting over or under charged. For me to get much improved life out of Lithium-Ion batteries, I have had to pamper them more and limit their charge range more, granted with Li-ion limiting the charge window made a huge difference in pack life. 4. LFP batteries don't catch on fire. I once dropped an LFP battery pack and broke it. It just smoked for a while and I made some jokes about not being able to have kids after inhaling some of those fumes due to the strong chemical odor, but it did not catch fire. You mention the Megapack battery fire in this video and LFP will make that a thing of the past. 5. When considering the C rates of LFP batteries, in the stationary setup you are really shooting for something that can handle a C/4 rate consistently without degradation. This is as in it can completely charge or discharge in 4 hours. This is well within the capability of LFP batteries without any optimizations for higher C rates. In other words for stationary applications, the batteries are not going to get stressed out by high loads, but instead be nice, cool running, efficient batteries that last a long time. 6. Something that may also be overlooked when talking about pampering batteries is LFP batteries can operate in a larger temperature range than Li-ion batteries. Less need to keep the batteries in a constrained operating temperature range is less parasitic energy draw to manage the batteries.
I’m thinking it will take 4 years for them to ramp. They don’t have battery supply for everything… they do have to push cars for FSD. Insurance. Robo taxi. Upgrades….free advertising rolling on road. Coming starlink who knows how they will bundle. Also fighting competition for future. Among others. Yea mega packs are amazing. And all of their products are and they have battery supply issues along with needing more facilities
We are planning to build a new home is Texas, our major concern is finding installers that are in our area. I know of one is Dallas. I hope that by our build year 2023 there will be more installers available.
A solar panel that imitates metal sheets should be the next step. I reckon they need to think of it not in terms of solar panel technology, but manufacturing technology. :) You could take photos of your roof. Download to server. And have custom manufacturing. (They could even rig starlink with powerful cameras).
People just need to get used to the look of solar roofs we don't have to make them look like shingles that's really a silly premise even though it's amazing it isn't necessary at all all we have to do is change our eyeballs perception slightly
The Power Pack assy line is a lot less complex than an auto assy line. The main issue is the electronics in the Inverters, and the production constraints of batteries. Tesla also took a lot of people away from the energy production lines to help get the auto production going. Hopefully they will start fully supporting the energy side of the business now.
Wrong, the power pack is way easier/simpler than the auto line, its just battery packs assembled into boxes with electronics unlike cars with much more complex systems.
@@alanmay7929 I believe you may have misread my post, as that was what I believe I said. The only possible production constraints would be some of the silicon carbide transistors, control chips, and batteries. And you are quite correct, Just a matter of developing the best way way to assemble the parts. The hardest part is probably the fact that they need a thermal management system, but switching to the 4680 form factor and LFP chemistries may simplify that. I am so glad to be living with the hope and possibility that these changes are bringing in my lifetime. All my best wishes to you for the holiday season!
@@GoCoyote lol.... the switch to 4680 will unfortunately not solve the supply chain, and more manufacturers are starting to seriously ramp their EV production too, its going to be very hard to make EVs with bigger batteries like the semi for example. Even tho intel, tsmc and other companies are building new factories for chips it still will be a gigantic challenge because EVs uses way too much electronics.
The video stated that the Grid Batteries have been able to replace speaker plants. Unfortunately, the politicians demanded shutting down peaker plants faster than the batteries have been deployed. That means there are times where the peaker plants are needed and not available..... and that is why CA is getting rolling black-outs.
i love your show, We love spacex & we just got our S dual motor fsd while the tri/4? motor fsd cybertruck gets here. i'm all in TSLA & i love all Elon Musk does & will keep doing..we've drove from California to Boca Chica to see the Star Ship & it was so awesome to see it getting built in person!! we have LOTS of SOLAR & backup battery system to charge them both at home
Powerwall is not good unless only running lights and fridge. U can’t run AC or pool or high loads….. most houses need these in summer…. I’m just saying as I have one. I wish I would have got 4 of them. Oh well live and learn. Hopefully they come out with mini mega packs for owners (4-8x density of a powerwall )
you only bought one???? lemme guess you did no research and just let some shoddy solar place wrap you up? I built my own battery bank. 60kwh. 20kw ground mounted array. i am not tied to the grid at all.
Tesla is entering into more energy storage ventures such as with Harmony Energy in the UK. With some battery storage stations already online, Harmony will raise more capital via a flotation. Tesla has supplie Megapack systems and Autobidder AI revenue optimization platform. Som of the Autobidder revenue will be recurring.
I am a solar installer this market is not fitted to monster companies, it works better for smaller companies but Tesla with great product needs the little guy to install
How about new builds? Surely the way to go. You spend what $300-1000k on a new home why can’t they include a different roof and some batteries. The mark up on bricks cement and steal is atrocious.
every smaller solar company ive seen in the last two years is extremely predatory in prices and contract. either a massive company that can afford to do it cheaply or diy. yall charging insane prices and predatory financing is just plain shit.
Big lol.... when people see Hyundai they probably just see it as a car company totally forgetting that Hyundai is one of the world's largest ship builder, they have massive foundries, Hyundai even created sk-hynix, they make heavy duty equipments.......
Please get your units for Energy storage correct. Megawatt hours (MWh) not Megawatts (a unit for Power). Batteries store energy. They output power (VA = Watts). If you make a film, you must understand what you are talking about. If you don't understand (which you obviously do not) then don't even try to repeat what someone else said or wrote!
@@ztechrepairs Not yet...since my area isn't TOTALLY dependent on useless and unreliable solar. But Musk is riding that gravy train into the ground, isn't he?
A Megapack is just a big battery pack. I think that a lot of people will be able to compete in that space, particularly battery makers. The result is that 30% margins will not be sustainable.
@@hkchan1339 bullshit, other battery makers also have management systems, BYD, victron and many other companies already have those solutions too. Samsung even has it for companies used as a emergency supply/UPS
@@alanmay7929 this is true… but are they?? Solar panels, batteries, electric cars, tunnels - all been around for years but nobody else making the ideas reality like Elon.
I would not say millstone, more like the neglected stepchild. Tesla has openly admitted to robbing their energy business of workers and resources to get the auto lines running.
They have prioritised ramping vehicle factories and batteries for vehicles. Also, I guess they will start using iron batteries, now that the Chinese patents have expired.
Yeah they def need to step up and lay out a real roadmap for this stuff. This whole argument “not just a car company” is getting harder and harder to sell.
Random question for all the Tesla Heads out there especially anyone with some AI background or who knows what the company is upto in that field. It’s my understanding that Dojo is receiving hundreds of thousands of hours of driving information from tester cars? ( or all teslas? ) I had assumed that it was gathering the data to take actions and reactions from com-parables so as to make an averaging decision tree for the more complex situations based on the decisions the drivers made and the outcomes wether they be good or bad. Armed with such data I had assumed that an FSD would be making decisions based on an inhuman amount of experience. More than any human driver could ever have. I am also aware that all the information is now all vision based which means Dojo is watching bicyclists and joggers other drivers for millions of hours daily and studying human behavior. Has anyone asked what happens when you take a super computer and teach it to study human behavior for thousands of hours a day? Is there a way to use the data and apply it to logic trees for use in the humanoid program? Can we build an artificial consciousness based on the most exhaustive study of humans ever made by man or machine?
*Don't sleep on it...this is a time to invest I recently just bought another property valued at over $10m. I wish I knew the right investment firm to invest with earlier, better late than never thought.*
@@mortenbolin7481 Yeah, My first investment with Mrs Elizabeth Jacob she earned me profit of over $25,530 US dollars, and ever since then she has been delivering.
I was a hippie in the 1960's and early 70's, but no more. However, I do like my granola, even now. And, yes, I do live in California in San Deigo. I owned a Whole Earth Catalogue, and yup big fan of Elon and Tesla. Solar, EV's, Wind power are my hero's, So, maybe you got something there. But California is more diverified than you might imagine. And I would describe myself as an outsider at this point of time, except for Elon and Tesla. And I've been an outsider my entire life. So, maybe you have nothing about California after all. California can be elusive. Having lived here for 20 years, I know this only to well. So, people who assume things about California are making an ass out of you and me.
Tesla wont dominate crap since no one i know can afford their shit. Model 3 being affordable is a load of crap. Its not priced in line with toyota but lexus. Same with everything tesla makes.
Trevor, Trevor, Trevor! Please seek help! You say (at timeline 1:14) that "each battery pack has the capacity for 3 megawatts of energy storage"!!! There is NO SUCH THING as megawatts of energy storage! This is the equivalent of saying that grandma lives 20 mph away from our house. MPH is not a DISTANCE, and MEGAWATTS DO NOT measure energy storage. I respect your desire to educate the public. At the same time, this is at the same level as teaching kids that two plus two is "almost five" (Democrat re-write of 1984). Please accept the truth from a trusted friend, and up your game!
@@TheCort1971 Thanks for proving my point. Ignorance breeds more ignorance, to the point where all the snowflake liberals end up just spewing buzzwords with no comprehension of that thing called science. Both leftie and rightie zombies - exchanging buzzword soup attacks on each other. "those who refuse to learn from history are doomed to endlessly repeat the mistakes." Welcome to the real world.
@@IA52342 man you need some time away from the internet and the news. trust me it will do you good. misinformation used to drive me insane. i stopped watching the news. got rid of social media entirely. i just day traded stocks and cryptos. its helped my state of mind. it is easier for me to no longer care if some one has zero clue of what they are talking about. find yourself some peace. and consider the number of humans on the planet and the game of telephone. just think on that for a second and then understand that so very few people are going to actually understand the subject matter they are speaking on. ive spent the last twenty years doing industrial electrical controls. i do know the difference in watt hours and watts. but im not in the business of trying to help the rest of humanity. i wish you the best man.
Just so you know, I along with many other people instantly click "Don't recommend channel" when I see "Tesla" in a channel name. It means, of course that you produce clickbait fanboy garbage.
In 1962, in his book “Profiles of the Future: An Inquiry into the Limits of the Possible”, science fiction writer Arthur C. Clarke formulated his famous Three Laws, of which the third law is the best-known and most widely cited: “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic”. In other words, its like showing an iPad to a chimp.
Just finished a roof replacement project in SW Fla. 12.5Kw roof production, (only took 45% of roof surface on 1750 sq ft house to achieve), with three PowerWalls. Awesome system! Contractor has numerous growing pains and FP&L is a big obstacle but finally finished and producing. Fuel for Tesla Model 3, (and of course the house electricity), now produced by the roof and stored in PowerWalls! With fuel for EV's factored in, break even point is less than seven years, AND...No more hurricane power outages.
7 years is great and less than I expected. I wonder how the resale is as value-add to a home sale.
The problem I see is that until recently when OPEC tripled fuel prices there was no real business case for it. Spending $2k a year on electricity for the average home it didn’t make sense to invest ~$30k upgrading your home unless being off the grid is super important.
Key for the business really is to get into the new home market. Why replace a perfectly good roof at great cost, just build it right first time.
And the lifespan of the batteries upkeep and maintenance cost is? 😀
Absolutely, Tesla's energy projects are a hidden gem that will become massive in say 2023. I have traditional solar PV with micro-inverters and want to add a Powerwall to that system in the near future.
Yeah, hidden gem, not quite the opposite...
Need to see Elon’s plan for the ramp. Battery production is key.
As a couple of other people have noted, a megawatt is a unit of power, *not energy*. Power is the rate at which energy is produced or consumed. A Megapack has three megawatt-HOURS of (absolute maximum) capacity. I'm not sure what the maximum rate of energy delivery is (i.e., the maximum wattage), but the Tesla website suggests it could, at least in theory, supply 500 megawatts of electric power for six hours. Or it could keep a 1000-watt space heater going for 125 days. The practical capacity is probably a bit less.
This doesn't affect the main economic point of your video, but it's something that you might as well get right. For reference, a joule is the basic unit of energy in the metric system, and a watt is defined to be a joule per second. Hence a watt-hour is 3600 joules. And of course a mega-whatever is a million whatevers.
Have Tesla, 8.1 kw solar and 4 power walls…love it, home in Az…Geo
Love the updates and I hope these two types of energy systems grow rapidly, the world will need a lot more of these packs and solar
Merry Christmas brothers and sisters!
Power walls are great! But I was under sold with one and over sold on panels, by SunRun. Should have used two power walls!
There are actually several things going on to better understand why LFP is good for stationary battery systems:
1. Don't need rare materials mined with child labor coming out of unstable parts of the world. Iron is plentiful and can be gotten anywhere. Lithium can actually be had from a number of different sources when done right and be plentiful. While there are other ingredients, nothing too special with LFP, unlike more traditional Lithium-Ion batteries. Another way to look at this is if Tesla wants to scale this up to having Megapacks all around the world en mass, they can get the raw materials easily and ethically enough to pull it off. They just can't reach this goal with traditional Lithium-Ion batteries unfortunately. The Li-ion deal early on seemed to be more of what technologies they had access to and ready to go at the time instead of a long term plan.
2. LFP is cheaper. You mention this.
3. LFP tends to have a much better cycle life. At this it has a different charge curve where it gets steep at that very end and is rather flat through most of the charge curve. It is pretty easy to have a wide charge window, have a constant charge / discharge rate at almost any charge level, and to have many charge - discharge cycles, potentially going on for decades. These batteries, at least when done right, last a long time. So while you can go on about them being heavier, which doesn't really matter in a stationary setup, it is not really that much of a disadvantage even in a mobile application, and the life of these batteries makes it a very good thing to invest in. I have an LFP battery from a cheap Chinese outfit (pouch battery cells taped together and I had to redo some of the wiring because it was done so poorly) that is 11 years old and it is still kicking strong with nothing special done to it besides just keeping the cells from either getting over or under charged. For me to get much improved life out of Lithium-Ion batteries, I have had to pamper them more and limit their charge range more, granted with Li-ion limiting the charge window made a huge difference in pack life.
4. LFP batteries don't catch on fire. I once dropped an LFP battery pack and broke it. It just smoked for a while and I made some jokes about not being able to have kids after inhaling some of those fumes due to the strong chemical odor, but it did not catch fire. You mention the Megapack battery fire in this video and LFP will make that a thing of the past.
5. When considering the C rates of LFP batteries, in the stationary setup you are really shooting for something that can handle a C/4 rate consistently without degradation. This is as in it can completely charge or discharge in 4 hours. This is well within the capability of LFP batteries without any optimizations for higher C rates. In other words for stationary applications, the batteries are not going to get stressed out by high loads, but instead be nice, cool running, efficient batteries that last a long time.
6. Something that may also be overlooked when talking about pampering batteries is LFP batteries can operate in a larger temperature range than Li-ion batteries. Less need to keep the batteries in a constrained operating temperature range is less parasitic energy draw to manage the batteries.
I’m thinking it will take 4 years for them to ramp. They don’t have battery supply for everything… they do have to push cars for FSD. Insurance. Robo taxi. Upgrades….free advertising rolling on road. Coming starlink who knows how they will bundle. Also fighting competition for future. Among others.
Yea mega packs are amazing. And all of their products are and they have battery supply issues along with needing more facilities
We are planning to build a new home is Texas, our major concern is finding installers that are in our area. I know of one is Dallas. I hope that by our build year 2023 there will be more installers available.
Powerhome solar can help
In 2020 I got a power roof from Tesla.....Iam very happy with it as solar and as a roof.
A solar panel that imitates metal sheets should be the next step. I reckon they need to think of it not in terms of solar panel technology, but manufacturing technology. :)
You could take photos of your roof. Download to server. And have custom manufacturing. (They could even rig starlink with powerful cameras).
People just need to get used to the look of solar roofs we don't have to make them look like shingles that's really a silly premise even though it's amazing it isn't necessary at all all we have to do is change our eyeballs perception slightly
you kept showing nuclear power plants when talking about peaker plants, nuclear are baseline.
Wins? dominate?
are those the right words for a better world?
wow...
#winning
this aint the kindergarten playground. the opposition is going to go scorched earth. turn the other cheek and get turned out.
Yes have 2 Powerwalls and 24 panels that powers my house, model 3, heater and ac. It’s mind boggling
Lol....
Megapacks should be built in Texas in order to be near headquarter.
The Power Pack assy line is a lot less complex than an auto assy line. The main issue is the electronics in the Inverters, and the production constraints of batteries. Tesla also took a lot of people away from the energy production lines to help get the auto production going. Hopefully they will start fully supporting the energy side of the business now.
Wrong, the power pack is way easier/simpler than the auto line, its just battery packs assembled into boxes with electronics unlike cars with much more complex systems.
@@alanmay7929 that’s what @gocoyote just said
@@alanmay7929 I believe you may have misread my post, as that was what I believe I said. The only possible production constraints would be some of the silicon carbide transistors, control chips, and batteries. And you are quite correct, Just a matter of developing the best way way to assemble the parts. The hardest part is probably the fact that they need a thermal management system, but switching to the 4680 form factor and LFP chemistries may simplify that. I am so glad to be living with the hope and possibility that these changes are bringing in my lifetime. All my best wishes to you for the holiday season!
@@GoCoyote lol.... the switch to 4680 will unfortunately not solve the supply chain, and more manufacturers are starting to seriously ramp their EV production too, its going to be very hard to make EVs with bigger batteries like the semi for example. Even tho intel, tsmc and other companies are building new factories for chips it still will be a gigantic challenge because EVs uses way too much electronics.
@@alanmay7929 EVs don't inherently need any more chips than ICE cars do, given equivalent options.
The video stated that the Grid Batteries have been able to replace speaker plants. Unfortunately, the politicians demanded shutting down peaker plants faster than the batteries have been deployed. That means there are times where the peaker plants are needed and not available..... and that is why CA is getting rolling black-outs.
i love your show, We love spacex & we just got our S dual motor fsd while the tri/4? motor fsd cybertruck gets here. i'm all in TSLA & i love all Elon Musk does & will keep doing..we've drove from California to Boca Chica to see the Star Ship & it was so awesome to see it getting built in person!! we have LOTS of SOLAR & backup battery system to charge them both at home
power wall - yes one day - but they only do single phase, i have 3 phase... to buy 3 powerwalls - make it very expensive at this point...
Powerwall is not good unless only running lights and fridge. U can’t run AC or pool or high loads….. most houses need these in summer…. I’m just saying as I have one. I wish I would have got 4 of them. Oh well live and learn. Hopefully they come out with mini mega packs for owners (4-8x density of a powerwall )
you only bought one???? lemme guess you did no research and just let some shoddy solar place wrap you up? I built my own battery bank. 60kwh. 20kw ground mounted array. i am not tied to the grid at all.
I'm buying 10 more shares of Tesla in January 2022
Great video! Thanks for the info.
Tesla is entering into more energy storage ventures such as with Harmony Energy in the UK. With some battery storage stations already online, Harmony will raise more capital via a flotation. Tesla has supplie Megapack systems and Autobidder AI revenue optimization platform. Som of the Autobidder revenue will be recurring.
I have Sun Run from Costco, but just solar.
I can’t wait to try this new electricity out thank it’s the answer to a better future future
Ok bot
Bwahahaha! Got to chuckle at "hippie granola eating California". We still say: "tune in, drop out, turn on ... the MegaPack" ;)
Solarpharm is gamechager
And hyperloop road under the land.
I am a solar installer this market is not fitted to monster companies, it works better for smaller companies but Tesla with great product needs the little guy to install
How about new builds? Surely the way to go. You spend what $300-1000k on a new home why can’t they include a different roof and some batteries. The mark up on bricks cement and steal is atrocious.
every smaller solar company ive seen in the last two years is extremely predatory in prices and contract. either a massive company that can afford to do it cheaply or diy. yall charging insane prices and predatory financing is just plain shit.
BTW Luton is pronounced Loo-Ton not Lu-ton
Now if they could come to SE Michigan then we can do some real number crunching. No one to contact here that I can find.
It’s going to be a wonderful day once Tesla ramps up their energy business where they are making billions per quarter.
Lol... where are the batteries?! They haven't even figured out how to make a single semi or cybertruck.
@Feng 4680 is ot a battery when there is not enough raw materials for its production lol....
It'll be E P I C!!!
@@alanmay7929 not enough raw materials? It practically uses the same amount per kg as the previous ones? Are you slow or something?
@@user-yj4qz5lo6k the biggest question is where is the semi or cybertruck?! They don't have enough materials/batteries for mass production.
I need to save up to buy a Tesla.
Energylink
Big lol.... when people see Hyundai they probably just see it as a car company totally forgetting that Hyundai is one of the world's largest ship builder, they have massive foundries, Hyundai even created sk-hynix, they make heavy duty equipments.......
Please get your units for Energy storage correct. Megawatt hours (MWh) not Megawatts (a unit for Power). Batteries store energy. They output power (VA = Watts).
If you make a film, you must understand what you are talking about. If you don't understand (which you obviously do not) then don't even try to repeat what someone else said or wrote!
THANKS TO A GREAT MAN POINTING MANKIND TO BETTER ENEGY SOLUTION
Oooo...battery grid storage! And it burns just as brightly as their solar panels!
Genius! Where do I sign up?
You poor guy
@@ztechrepairs Not yet...since my area isn't TOTALLY dependent on useless and unreliable solar.
But Musk is riding that gravy train into the ground, isn't he?
It's actually pronounced "Nevada"
Each pack is worth 30 cars worth of power why would you compare one pack to one car?
A Megapack is just a big battery pack. I think that a lot of people will be able to compete in that space, particularly battery makers. The result is that 30% margins will not be sustainable.
It’s the battery management system for charging that Tesla has an advantage over others
@@hkchan1339 bullshit, other battery makers also have management systems, BYD, victron and many other companies already have those solutions too. Samsung even has it for companies used as a emergency supply/UPS
@@alanmay7929 this is true… but are they??
Solar panels, batteries, electric cars, tunnels - all been around for years but nobody else making the ideas reality like Elon.
Plus the market is huge. Enough for everyone to take a big slice of the pie.
hi
For Tesla, the energy business (storage & solar) has been a millstone around their neck to date. Hoping that's about to change.
Without batteries and lower prices it ain't going to happen.
I would not say millstone, more like the neglected stepchild. Tesla has openly admitted to robbing their energy business of workers and resources to get the auto lines running.
They have prioritised ramping vehicle factories and batteries for vehicles. Also, I guess they will start using iron batteries, now that the Chinese patents have expired.
Yeah they def need to step up and lay out a real roadmap for this stuff. This whole argument “not just a car company” is getting harder and harder to sell.
How does tacking on an extra 70 to 100k on a home price make too much sense not to do ?
Random question for all the Tesla Heads out there especially anyone with some AI background or who knows what the company is upto in that field.
It’s my understanding that Dojo is receiving hundreds of thousands of hours of driving information from tester cars? ( or all teslas? ) I had assumed that it was gathering the data to take actions and reactions from com-parables so as to make an averaging decision tree for the more complex situations based on the decisions the drivers made and the outcomes wether they be good or bad. Armed with such data I had assumed that an FSD would be making decisions based on an inhuman amount of experience. More than any human driver could ever have. I am also aware that all the information is now all vision based which means Dojo is watching bicyclists and joggers other drivers for millions of hours daily and studying human behavior.
Has anyone asked what happens when you take a super computer and teach it to study human behavior for thousands of hours a day? Is there a way to use the data and apply it to logic trees for use in the humanoid program? Can we build an artificial consciousness based on the most exhaustive study of humans ever made by man or machine?
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Can Musk please design a AA battery that lasts and lasts and lasts?
He would probably wanna make a rechargeable battery if he were to make something for a console
He wouldn’t wanna waste his time on something that won’t further human evolution
@@yodamaster757 rechargeable AA exists
Luton in the UK is pronounced “Loo-tun”, not “Lutton”. I heard you say Lutton and thought wtf where is that, before realising.
not sure why in CA .. a state of greed. just a thought…. pull into your garage or a charge station without plugging in 🤷♂️. i love CEO Elon ingenuity
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*Don't sleep on it...this is a time to invest I recently just bought another property valued at over $10m. I wish I knew the right investment firm to invest with earlier, better late than never thought.*
I heard that her strategies are really good.
@@mortenbolin7481 Yeah, My first investment with Mrs Elizabeth Jacob she earned me profit of over $25,530 US dollars, and ever since then she has been delivering.
She has really made a good name for herself.
@Jessica Bailey Please help me I want to invest too, how can I contact expert Elizabeth Jacob ?.
To be honest I invested as low as $10,000 because I was skeptical initially. Receiving my profit gave me more confidence to reinvest higher
Sustainable energy except for their batteries which aren’t even able to be repaired with ease.
Will be easily recycled in a few years.
I was a hippie in the 1960's and early 70's, but no more. However, I do like my granola, even now. And, yes, I do live in California in San Deigo. I owned a Whole Earth Catalogue, and yup big fan of Elon and Tesla. Solar, EV's, Wind power are my hero's, So, maybe you got something there. But California is more diverified than you might imagine. And I would describe myself as an outsider at this point of time, except for Elon and Tesla. And I've been an outsider my entire life. So, maybe you have nothing about California after all. California can be elusive. Having lived here for 20 years, I know this only to well. So, people who assume things about California are making an ass out of you and me.
Tesla wont dominate crap since no one i know can afford their shit. Model 3 being affordable is a load of crap. Its not priced in line with toyota but lexus. Same with everything tesla makes.
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There is actually nothing new in this video its just one of the 100000 repetitions.
Trevor, Trevor, Trevor! Please seek help! You say (at timeline 1:14) that "each battery pack has the capacity for 3 megawatts of energy storage"!!! There is NO SUCH THING as megawatts of energy storage! This is the equivalent of saying that grandma lives 20 mph away from our house. MPH is not a DISTANCE, and MEGAWATTS DO NOT measure energy storage. I respect your desire to educate the public. At the same time, this is at the same level as teaching kids that two plus two is "almost five" (Democrat re-write of 1984). Please accept the truth from a trusted friend, and up your game!
calm down man. dude said something the wrong way. he didnt kick your dog.
@@TheCort1971 Thanks for proving my point. Ignorance breeds more ignorance, to the point where all the snowflake liberals end up just spewing buzzwords with no comprehension of that thing called science. Both leftie and rightie zombies - exchanging buzzword soup attacks on each other. "those who refuse to learn from history are doomed to endlessly repeat the mistakes." Welcome to the real world.
@@IA52342 man you need some time away from the internet and the news. trust me it will do you good. misinformation used to drive me insane. i stopped watching the news. got rid of social media entirely. i just day traded stocks and cryptos. its helped my state of mind. it is easier for me to no longer care if some one has zero clue of what they are talking about. find yourself some peace. and consider the number of humans on the planet and the game of telephone. just think on that for a second and then understand that so very few people are going to actually understand the subject matter they are speaking on. ive spent the last twenty years doing industrial electrical controls. i do know the difference in watt hours and watts. but im not in the business of trying to help the rest of humanity. i wish you the best man.
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Just so you know, I along with many other people instantly click "Don't recommend channel" when I see "Tesla" in a channel name. It means, of course that you produce clickbait fanboy garbage.
everything elon musk does is fake
In 1962, in his book “Profiles of the Future: An Inquiry into the Limits of the Possible”, science fiction writer Arthur C. Clarke formulated his famous Three Laws, of which the third law is the best-known and most widely cited: “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic”.
In other words, its like showing an iPad to a chimp.
@@bashdamonkey ... well that was a bucket load of rubbish ... grow a brain and try again.
everything your mom did is fake..... that means you.