I'm glad it's not made by the same company they had make the Fusion2. It has an all plastic receiver. I modified it about as much as I dared and took it from 7 for to 14 fpe. This Notos was indeed purchased to modify but I'm gonna play with it a while first
@@jimragan9432 I think I was shooting JSB 7.33's last out of my Fusion 1 and 2. Maybe 3/4 inch group at 30 yards, but it's been a while so I could be wrong. I think I made a video comparing the two but not sure if I put it on my channel or posted it in a group. Are you sure it's not clipping the moderator?
@@kidpellet6544 no, im not sure, i didnt get that far with it. seems the older i get and the guns i get the more spoiled i get. if it dont shoot good, i just drop it down and walk away. i did have a gamo that was clipping and i fiddled with it and brought it around. the fusion 2 has got to be the ugliest moderator ever invented so i might take a look at just removing it completely.
If you can fold the stock with one push button and remove the stock with one push button, bump the air tank a little bit to make 50 consistent shots and a 10 shots magazine. The sale would fly over the roof for sure. I just got mine today great Airgun. Thanks for the review 👋🙂👍
I put a bottle on mine right away. Gets 100 shots with a small bottle on it and is still light. Someone in Canada is maki g 12 round mags for it and there are options to adapt a folding stock to the non standard sized stock. If you check out the two Notos FB groups you can find information for all this
Just far the record,I have no idea how old your eyes are but mine are 82yrs young and that airrifle deserves a decent scope. I know WestHunter is not a premium scope but I put a 4-16x50 FFP on mine and it is perfect for my eyes out to 45yds during scope sight in . The snow and freezing weather made me decide to wait for better weather. In fact the young body demanded it🫢
I'm 53 now and my eyes are starting to give me a little trouble but not real bad. I have a few 40x scopes but they are fairly large. I can do a pretty good job with a 3x scope hunting so I was kinda thinking about another Bugbuster but I just saw on the back of the PA catalog theres a new 3-12x44 compact from UTG that's NIT a Bugbuster. May try that one on this kit rifle. Westhunter has a 10-40 that I want also but don't know which airgun to put it on
Already have a carbon fiber bottle on it getting 100 shots per fill at 22 fpe and carbon fiber tubing on the way to replace the factory shroud and moderator. Designing a bottle adapter that can be installed easy and will have a gauge for regulated pressure and a long picatiny rail on the bottom for a bipod, palm shelf of maybe an IR light
@@kidpellet6544 Great!! How friendly is this for backyard shooting. Is it very loud? Maybe a baffle kit might be in order? I keep following you to what is new with this platform. I sent a few friends your initial review and we're all in line. Only problem is right now is that no one has them in stock. Thanks for all your info, and looking forward to more videos.
Me too. I think they rated it for the Canadian market when it really puts out 20 fpe with 18 grain lead pellets. They probably used lighter alloys in testing.😎🇺🇸
My box said 780 as well, hopefully they leave the typo in there because at 700 fps, they are allowed to shit within Illinois, if it's anything over, they can't ship in IL.
Have you ever shot your Chaser with the silencer removed? I have the rifle/pistol combo that comes with the silencer on the rifle barrel. I did some experimenting and it turns out that the rifle shot a little more accurately without the silencer installed and, when I put it on the pistol, it cut many of the pellet groups by as much as half. I was testing over 30 yards and the guns were in a vise, so I know it wasn't just me having a good day verses a bad day. I was really surprised to see how much accuracy I gained with the pistol and just wondered if you had ever tried yours without the silencer.
I have and with mine, I find no difference with the Chaser rifle/pistol/BanditAR carbine. I get no POI shift with or without the suppressors. Both of my suppressors are homemade. But even with the stock stuff no POI shift.
@@johnnybbgunner2136 I've moded my Chaser/Bandits too. I bottled the Chaser with a 19" barrel and have it shooting 925fps, laser-accurate and I regulated my Bandit with an Altaros regulator and I have it shooting 7 shots 780-800 with a 10" barrel.
That's interesting to know. I don't think I had a POI shift either. I just got much tighter groups with many of the pellets that I rested. Makes one wonder about the value of all the accuracy testing that is done on YT. Can it really predict how YOUR gun is likely to shoot? apparently@@Cicretsqrl
@@rickdonahue6110 that's wild because I distinctly remember reports saying 700 but Chad Kentner (Airgun Advisor) said he was getting a little more power out of the one he reviewed
@@fiddy_watchguy I've only put one shot through mine with a 14.3 and it was 764. I'm hoping to work on it a little and get close to 800 with something like an AA 16 grain. My friend Carl has the Hades grouping really well though so who knows. Might aught to leave it alone
I think I saw a review from one of the guys that got one before they were released say it was 40 cc. Doesnt sound right but the end cap with gauge and fill probe takes up about as much room in the tube as the regulator on the other end
@@kidpellet6544I like the idea of a larger bottle what did you use where can I get it and what did you do to maintain the regulator being it’s inside the factory bottle
Thanks for the sub. Hope I have some content you find useful. The stock fits snug but it's not hard to install at all really. Its better being tight that wiggly afters its tight like my two Crosman shoulder stocks and the adjustment butt doesn't rattle either
@@kidpellet6544 thanks for the offer of the photos but I don't have Facebook I don't trust them they have been hacked to many times ! I got my Notos the other day and got the stock put on no problem ! 👍👍
ahh good old umarex doing it again , buying there guns from china and printing the brand name on it and charging twice the price , this is a rebranded SMK Artemis in different slightly clothing. The smk artemis is a great pistol and cheaper than the umarex
Lots of manufacturers doing that for decades now. The Notos has a couple of upgrades that Umarex had made to the Artemis and is outselling them by a landslide. Kinda like the old Ford Ranger and Mazda B2300 among many other autos. Airguns are no different I guess. Snowpeak makes many that are imported and sold as other brands, probably the most rebranded airgun
Yah, they don't condone taking any of they're products apart. I've been told it's for liability reasons. Polar opposite from Crosman which will send you anything they can, as long as YOU have a part number lol
@@kidpellet6544 liability is just a excuse i would love to see a vidseo how you disassemble and remove the supressor it would be greatly appreciated by many of us sir keep up the great videos but seriously a disassembly video would be greatly appreciated and the more details the better
@@le3045acp it's going to be a while but I have a lot of projects to catch up on and thinking of gathering parts and materials then taking a few days off to get on them. I will say that unless you just want to change the looks of the gun the moderator doesn't need to come off. The end cap is pinned in place and can be removed with some effort. Then a mono core 3d printed moderator con be inserted. It would look a lot like the ones made for the Origin and Avenger and be a slip in model
@@kidpellet6544 well i was hoping you might go to the removable route so it can be used shorter if need be it just pisses me off that gamo and umarex have not realized we want a removable mod and a choice of the mod because different ones can make the rifle more or less accurate
Love my Notos! I ordered the Maple mega mags 15 shot from Canada. Such a sweet upgrade so you can throw the factory mag away. Great unboxing my man.😊
The regulator is in the air tube. You are correct in it was made by Snowpeak and is a modified PP750,modified and rebranded as Umerax NOTOS.
I'm glad it's not made by the same company they had make the Fusion2. It has an all plastic receiver. I modified it about as much as I dared and took it from 7 for to 14 fpe.
This Notos was indeed purchased to modify but I'm gonna play with it a while first
@@kidpellet6544 i tried and tried and tried to get my fusion 2 to shoot. i have 20 or so different type pellets and it wont shoot anything good.
@@jimragan9432 I think I was shooting JSB 7.33's last out of my Fusion 1 and 2.
Maybe 3/4 inch group at 30 yards, but it's been a while so I could be wrong.
I think I made a video comparing the two but not sure if I put it on my channel or posted it in a group.
Are you sure it's not clipping the moderator?
@@kidpellet6544 no, im not sure, i didnt get that far with it. seems the older i get and the guns i get the more spoiled i get. if it dont shoot good, i just drop it down and walk away. i did have a gamo that was clipping and i fiddled with it and brought it around. the fusion 2 has got to be the ugliest moderator ever invented so i might take a look at just removing it completely.
Thanks for the look. Appreciate it!
If you can fold the stock with one push button and remove the stock with one push button, bump the air tank a little bit to make 50 consistent shots and a 10 shots magazine. The sale would fly over the roof for sure. I just got mine today great Airgun. Thanks for the review 👋🙂👍
I put a bottle on mine right away. Gets 100 shots with a small bottle on it and is still light.
Someone in Canada is maki g 12 round mags for it and there are options to adapt a folding stock to the non standard sized stock. If you check out the two Notos FB groups you can find information for all this
Your guess for the regulator location is correct, I opened chamber and saw it when I was trying to figure out why I wasn't able to pump air.
I just got mine and it won’t except air or it’s just pissing out some place I can’t find
Just far the record,I have no idea how old your eyes are but mine are 82yrs young and that airrifle deserves a decent scope. I know WestHunter is not a premium scope but I put a 4-16x50 FFP on mine and it is perfect for my eyes out to 45yds during scope sight in . The snow and freezing weather made me decide to wait for better weather. In fact the young body demanded it🫢
I'm 53 now and my eyes are starting to give me a little trouble but not real bad. I have a few 40x scopes but they are fairly large. I can do a pretty good job with a 3x scope hunting so I was kinda thinking about another Bugbuster but I just saw on the back of the PA catalog theres a new 3-12x44 compact from UTG that's NIT a Bugbuster. May try that one on this kit rifle.
Westhunter has a 10-40 that I want also but don't know which airgun to put it on
Seems like a nice pistol with a lot of features. Will be following you for more updates and modifications. Thanks.
Already have a carbon fiber bottle on it getting 100 shots per fill at 22 fpe and carbon fiber tubing on the way to replace the factory shroud and moderator. Designing a bottle adapter that can be installed easy and will have a gauge for regulated pressure and a long picatiny rail on the bottom for a bipod, palm shelf of maybe an IR light
@@kidpellet6544 Great!! How friendly is this for backyard shooting. Is it very loud? Maybe a baffle kit might be in order? I keep following you to what is new with this platform. I sent a few friends your initial review and we're all in line. Only problem is right now is that no one has them in stock. Thanks for all your info, and looking forward to more videos.
Awesome review. Good info on the mag, I also thought the Diana mag was the same. Gonna order mine next week, so I will get the correct extra mags !
Extra magazines are not yet available for purchase individually. I bought the gun and other goodies but no extra mag from Pyramid Air.
I will be making a pair of walnut grips for my kit.
I had the same issues with those tiny screws.
There’s a review on the Notos and with heavier pellets it got up to 20 ft pounds!… That is more than the Benjamin Marauder pistol I believe 🤔
Me too. I think they rated it for the Canadian market when it really puts out 20 fpe with 18 grain lead pellets.
They probably used lighter alloys in testing.😎🇺🇸
ive been putting the heavy look on one myself along with the hatsan jet. be cool when you can do some groups for us to watch.
Why is it a good sign if it has no pressure?
Yep you right
So far I think I'm liking the Hatsan Jet 2 Better.
I haven't seen one up close yet but I have a friend that just got a Jet1 I may see soon.
What do you like better about it?
My box said 780 as well, hopefully they leave the typo in there because at 700 fps, they are allowed to shit within Illinois, if it's anything over, they can't ship in IL.
Is the buffer tube and shoulder brace changeable?it looks like it is.
It is not. It's a different size and thread than standard
I just wondering if you may be making a video on how to adjust the air regulator
I did, it's at the top
Have you ever shot your Chaser with the silencer removed? I have the rifle/pistol combo that comes with the silencer on the rifle barrel. I did some experimenting and it turns out that the rifle shot a little more accurately without the silencer installed and, when I put it on the pistol, it cut many of the pellet groups by as much as half. I was testing over 30 yards and the guns were in a vise, so I know it wasn't just me having a good day verses a bad day. I was really surprised to see how much accuracy I gained with the pistol and just wondered if you had ever tried yours without the silencer.
I have not
I mated my Diana Chaser with the Bandit and added the long barrel to the PCP and hit over 800 fps in .22 over the chronograph at the target.
I have and with mine, I find no difference with the Chaser rifle/pistol/BanditAR carbine. I get no POI shift with or without the suppressors. Both of my suppressors are homemade. But even with the stock stuff no POI shift.
@@johnnybbgunner2136 I've moded my Chaser/Bandits too. I bottled the Chaser with a 19" barrel and have it shooting 925fps, laser-accurate and I regulated my Bandit with an Altaros regulator and I have it shooting 7 shots 780-800 with a 10" barrel.
That's interesting to know. I don't think I had a POI shift either. I just got much tighter groups with many of the pellets that I rested. Makes one wonder about the value of all the accuracy testing that is done on YT. Can it really predict how YOUR gun is likely to shoot?
apparently@@Cicretsqrl
My box says 700fps. I like it a lot. Notos means The South Wind in Greek mythology
Did I read the box wrong lol. Sounds like something I would do
@@kidpellet6544 I have two of them. I just checked both boxes and they both say 780 ft per second. My bad.
@@rickdonahue6110 that's wild because I distinctly remember reports saying 700 but Chad Kentner (Airgun Advisor) said he was getting a little more power out of the one he reviewed
@@kidpellet6544 yes, I saw the same thing. I also saw someone getting 760-775 fps on their chrony on a video I watched.
@@fiddy_watchguy I've only put one shot through mine with a 14.3 and it was 764.
I'm hoping to work on it a little and get close to 800 with something like an AA 16 grain. My friend Carl has the Hades grouping really well though so who knows. Might aught to leave it alone
Nice 👍😉but to expensive here .460 dollar .440 euro 😢
I want a !77 version.
How big is the air tank on these I cut find this info anywhere??
I think I saw a review from one of the guys that got one before they were released say it was 40 cc.
Doesnt sound right but the end cap with gauge and fill probe takes up about as much room in the tube as the regulator on the other end
@Kid Pellet Thanks. Impressive to get 20 ish good shots out of a tank that small.
@@ADSUPINTHIS I bottled it this week. Got 98 shots at 20 fpe on the reg with a little 220 cc bottle
@@kidpellet6544I like the idea of a larger bottle what did you use where can I get it and what did you do to maintain the regulator being it’s inside the factory bottle
How hard is it to put the butt stock on this gun ? I've seen guys say that it's a pain in the rear to get on the gun ? Oh by the way new sub here 👈
Thanks for the sub. Hope I have some content you find useful.
The stock fits snug but it's not hard to install at all really. Its better being tight that wiggly afters its tight like my two Crosman shoulder stocks and the adjustment butt doesn't rattle either
@@kidpellet6544 thanks for the offer of the photos but I don't have Facebook I don't trust them they have been hacked to many times ! I got my Notos the other day and got the stock put on no problem ! 👍👍
Bought it, tried and RETURNED IT!!!!!! What a piece of s.........PLEASE DON"T WASTE YOUR MONEY!
Expecting a Thomas carbine for under 3 bills were you?
Hey i'd like a better look at your pistol rack to see how your pistols go in it !!
Message me on FB and I'll send you some pictures
"Ray Barnett"
regulated means what ?
It means that it use high pressure air and it has a regulator that keeps the air pressure consistent from shot to shot
@@kidpellet6544 ok thanks a lot.
ahh good old umarex doing it again , buying there guns from china and printing the brand name on it and charging twice the price , this is a rebranded SMK Artemis in different slightly clothing. The smk artemis is a great pistol and cheaper than the umarex
Lots of manufacturers doing that for decades now. The Notos has a couple of upgrades that Umarex had made to the Artemis and is outselling them by a landslide.
Kinda like the old Ford Ranger and Mazda B2300 among many other autos.
Airguns are no different I guess. Snowpeak makes many that are imported and sold as other brands, probably the most rebranded airgun
love the gun but umarex sucks for getting parts dpnt have or wont sell say you must send gun in which is bull sh!t
Yah, they don't condone taking any of they're products apart. I've been told it's for liability reasons.
Polar opposite from Crosman which will send you anything they can, as long as YOU have a part number lol
@@kidpellet6544 liability is just a excuse i would love to see a vidseo how you disassemble and remove the supressor it would be greatly appreciated by many of us sir keep up the great videos but seriously a disassembly video would be greatly appreciated and the more details the better
@@le3045acp it's going to be a while but I have a lot of projects to catch up on and thinking of gathering parts and materials then taking a few days off to get on them.
I will say that unless you just want to change the looks of the gun the moderator doesn't need to come off. The end cap is pinned in place and can be removed with some effort. Then a mono core 3d printed moderator con be inserted. It would look a lot like the ones made for the Origin and Avenger and be a slip in model
@@kidpellet6544 well i was hoping you might go to the removable route so it can be used shorter if need be it just pisses me off that gamo and umarex have not realized we want a removable mod and a choice of the mod because different ones can make the rifle more or less accurate
Most do. I tried getting a Charging handle from Gamo and they wanted me to send the whole gun in.