While some of it is nefarious it might be a wake-up call for the EFT devs to get a move on instead of keeping your playerbase into a constant feeling of discomfort. Haven't played it nor EFT in a while. My go-to is Grayzone warfare at the moment
Here’s my take. Tarkov finally has competition. Nikita can’t just do whatever he wants now because there’s another game that can cater to the extraction genre. Competition is beneficial for the consumer.
On the note of stealing code, based on what I've seen actual programers saying, it seems super unlikely any code was stolen. The two games run on different engines with different coding languages, which means most code simply isn't transferable between the two and would need to be rewritten from scratch. Also apparently those screen shots don't mean very much.
True but its easy to say look this is stolen while providing 'evidence' thats based on nothing since people that know nothing about the subject will believe it anyways if the claim is alligned with their own opinions without actually doing the research on it themselfs.
As an IT student, even if you could copy and paste the code (I know, I've tried before lolol) especially a game that's this complex. It will be a nightmare to fix if there are bugs in the system, and not being familiar with your own code that is potentially hundreds and thousands of lines, good luck adding new stuff in it , even imagining it hurts my brain so much 💀
To play devils advocate, if tarkov was made in Unity with c#, c# code is easier to de-compile than a lot of other languages and it might not be that difficult to port c# code over to c++. To be clear I find it hard to believe anyone would actually do this but I wanted to provide a counterpoint to other replies saying it'd be too hard to do something like this. (PS. I am not an expert)
As a indie game dev I can confirm. C# and C++ are 2 different languages, an adaptation to the code must be applied, but you can convert any language to another without a problem. The idea is, games are so complex and specific that you simply can't copy code from another game just cause you want to. We always look for inspiration in another games, see how they managed to overcome hurdles, etc... But if I made an extraction shooter today, copying tarkov's code into my game would mean shit, even if we use the same game engine but I can look at what gameobjects in Unity they used for the player controller or how they apply velocity to characters and form an idea or copy the idea, but not the code 'cause that's useless.
someone had to come and show BSG how easy it is to make their game functional and in a way shorter time. and then making it free is the icing on top proving we shouldn't have to pay 150-250 dollars to play a game like this
@@jizzchugger fr, i just bought the 50 dollar version, it sucks, even the price is bad, 50 dollars is a lot of money that couldve been spent on smarter things than that. especially in my country
Exactly, Nikita is literally advertising their game for them. How many people do you think saw Nikita malding about ABI on Twitter and thought to themselves: "Well fuck Nikita, I know what game I'm gonna play". It's honestly genius. 😂
If you think tarkov isn't getting publicity from it too then you're wrong, tarkov still the best out there and people playing abi won't last longer than they did in tarkov
I just want a good game. I don't really care who from. All of this drama has pushed me to sign off the mainstream multiplayer games for a while and start working through my backlog of other games. I just want to have fun and not have to worry about what the latest drama or patch changes are.
Whenever there's a clone game it begs the question; why not just play the original? Usually there's not a good answer. So the clone makes a bit at launch just because it's new, then quickly fades, while the original keeps going strong. In this case that answer might be people not wanting to deal with BSG anymore. So a even a straight up clone stands a chance here.
ABI if everything is done correctly, it will stand over Tarkov, mostly because it's way more accessible to new players. That doesn't mean Tarkov will die, no of course not, Tarkov will keep his player base because it is Tarkov, despite all the issues the game has and how much it hates the player, it has something special. But ABI is just doing everything better so far, they can fuck it up, but so far, it seems a ton more of people will get onto it
I’m going to tell you what none of the paid streamers will tell you, people are going to play this over Tarkov because they have a better handle on cheaters
Free to play is trash. Brings in trash people, and makes for a trash game play experience. I'd much rather pay $250 so it can exclude the kids and griefers.
I got a pc recently and I kinda wanted to get into tarkov but I’m a senior in college trying to finish up a tough degree and I just don’t have time to get into tarkov and its complexities. The barrier for entry here is just so much lower while keeping the elements that make tarkov look fun to me
I think that is where ABI is going to shine. Where Tarkov will do best is when you want to take it to the next level and engage with more complicated systems. League of Legends is a fun game to hop in and out of without much commitment with a few buddies but Dota 2, for me, has been my main game when I have the time and motivation to want to delve into the same genre. ABI does look good but I'm going to be honest my main stay for Tarkov is the immersion and hardcore factors it offers
My guy, take a look at SPT. Obviously if PvP is absolutely your thing it wont cut it, but the mods for it make the AI PMCs very challenging and act like real players. No wipes, just play your way.
@Grieva-SeeD- I have been absolutely RIPPING SPT and even convinced a few friends to play the coop mod with me. A lot of fun and it's crazy how well the game can run. I see absolutely no reason to play Tarkovs PvE mode with SPT being ad polished as it is Edit: Also to piggyback on the AI and PvP. Take a loot at Starvox's channel on SAIN and what his AI presets are. Tbh they are very challenging AI and make up for the lack of pvp
As someone with 2k hours in Tarkov, don't get into Tarkov, it's not worth it. Especially now that we have this game, which is in many wasy also just straight up better.
Exactly this. To be honest it's a bit mind blowing how people have been able to endure Tarkov quirks, netcode issues, queue time, etc. for so long. You feel like you have something to manage, like it's a job or something. It makes literally no sense. It's not "gaming" at this point. Then they wipe everything and everybody restart again.
EDIT: LMAO LITERALLY THIS 6:40 tbh i just want the QOL ABI has to be brought into Tarkov, for example the "Quick Equip" Tab is singlehandedly the most useful thing ive seen in a Extraction Shooter, along with being able to ROLL UP EMPTY Bags and UNARMORED Chest Rigs, its just small things like that that really show how Tarkov hasnt been pushed to make new ideas and they need to now implement these kinda things as i believe now we are seeing new "genre standards" even being set by ABI via those kinda QOL Features. For instance even a ingame map that is actually USEFUL AND USABLE IN GAME would be beneficial to EFT as I know Nakitta knows this but most people if not ALL people just use a 3rd Party Website on the phone/2nd monitor (and if only have one monitor kekw GL tabbing out nonstop to check where you are) so why would it be bad to eliminate the middle man via just putting in a USEFUL INGAME map that can be seen during Raids even? Im not asking for seeing player names above their heads n all as that would take a part of the game out i think Nakitta wants in (Teamkilling lmao) also being able to not have Friendly fire means you can just randomly match up w other players on a LFG and not worry, ive played ALL of my games with randos in a 4 man and have had a blast... so just a thought btw (Friendlyfire being removed isnt realistic yes but it DOES allow for players to just randomly team up and have fun and not worry about dying to each other or being TKed for their gear...) Its just like hmmmm.... you know i think they could and should have done half of this stuff already for EFT and maybe now Nakitta will listen more and be open to feedback/changes via community wants and needs.
if you still playing tarkov after 8 years, and hoping for shit like this its pretty sad. nikita wants the game to be a ball bust. just give up and accept he doesnt give a shit
If Nikita listens, it’ll only be because he realizes that ABI is legitimately going to be a competitor to Tarkov & he’s trying to save his game (rightfully so tbf)
This is my thought on it as well. They made it so much better. Idk really on how similar things are. Most games are similar to another game in one way or another. Especially when its a genre defining game. The drama will pass. People will forget. Hey this games mobile version has been out for almost a year. That says a lot as well.
Definitely not better. Games feels cheap. Tarkov looks and plays much better. Plus ABI just feels empty. Maybe in 10 years. But at that point unreal engine 4 will be ancient.
@@daviddunlap5602 Arena breakout Infinity Has been in a closed beta for 22 days and Escape of Tarkov has been in beta for 2488 days as long as my calculation is correct
AB mobile player here. The game has kits for guns and gear which you can buy for bonds and koens can be bought for bonds but none of them are useful if you have no skill as a level 9 can blast a level 30 if they have grenades. the only p2w feature are cases as they can store golden or red items which are very valuable and will stay with you if you die, just like tarkov. Gear can be gottten from a 2-4k gun as well as ones above 300k so yeah, just depends on how you play the game.
@@XxTheGoOfYxX Ah yes the animations, sounds, game design, game structure, genre, loot, textures and possibly the models are 1:1 to Tarkov, im sure it was an accident dont worry.
So chinese corporates were like: "Tarkov is a full-price game with microtransactions, keep the microtransactions, but make the game free." Well why not?
This is my take alright so arina breakout infinite is basically escape from tarkov but done right I normally play the mobile version but I didn't play very much to the PC version but the mobile version it's basically better than escape from tarkov with monthly updates every update adds like three new weapons and adds like changes to the map / a completely new map add new consumables at new lethals and adds also new armor that you can use and new events pretty much weekly and a anti-cheat that actually works
Yeah I’m sick of games now a days costing 70$ and being unfinished they could care less about our opinions companies kinda do whatever they want to make the most money, tbh I don’t care if arena breakout is a damn carbon copy I already feel more respected.
To be fair I think Marauders was the first Extraction Shooter I played where you could do this. Too bad the new content is too infrequent to keep me playing it for long.
You talking bullshit. There is many game mechanics which is copyrighted, nemesis system for example. You didn't hear about them, because they exist in a few games. Also it's not about game mechanics. It's clearly just plagiarism. And many developers get sued over this
so about the 3d model mesh match / Sound files... A lot of game companies use royalty free assets to cut costs. There are plenty of models you can use and adapt that are created by artists that put them out either for free or charge for a license. Since these are both small games with similar weapon groups, it totally makes sense for a mesh to match another. Probably just got the same file from the same source. Same with sound files. Game devs go to people like me for foley, most companies don't want to hire someone to create their own sound library. It's incredibly expensive and time consuming. Constructing a library from free or licensed audio is a great way to save money and time.
Don't give a damn It's free I ain't buying no 250 dollar game to get shat on by some rat on a desk for 20 days straight And not even have the ability to play offline without mods
9:00 something that came to mind. Since you will be able to buy game currency this will potentially scratch the itch for those that were desperate and bought items from other players in tarkov.
ABI is super accessible. No team killing lets you take newer guys along to try the game without adding threat to you. There’s a compass on the hud. We didn’t have to ask for ammo stats in game. Lastly it’s free. If you’re new and want to try a ball kicker sim, are you going to pay $40 for something you may not like, or do the free game? Tarkov might want to consider some free play weekends so people can try it risk free. Just wipe those accounts and lock access until they buy it.
In the words of Von Dutch artist Kenny Howard, “Nothing is original. Everything is in the subconscious, we just 'tap' it sometimes and think we have originated something”
It's a great quote! However, it's applicability here is not accurate. There was no intention to even try to create something original here. If you created a "Von Dutch-esque" painting that would be fine but if you took an actual Von Dutch painting and just made it different colors, that's slimy and not an actual artist.
A game that has been in beta for over 10 years deserves to have all the good parts ripped out and placed into a game that hopefully won't be in beta for more than a year. They have been leaning on the fact that they are in beta for too long as a crutch to not fix the issues.
I agree with everything said, but ultimately I don’t really care that much. I live Tarkov and still enjoy it, but it’s taking so long for anything to happen with it. It needs competition, even if it’s extremely similar competition.
Abi is definitely in a honeymoon phase right now, plus it only has two maps at this point and I feel like some of its current converts are gonna go back to tarkov it happens in the MMO genre all the time, the new big thing comes out and after you finish the honeymoon phase you crawl back to whatever game you were playing before
it has more. This was a beta. The Asian version of the mobile game has like 6 or 7 I think, and it's a couple seasons ahead of the global version, with 5 maps (iirc).
Doesn’t mean we’ll get the six anytime soon we might but on a new engine that can take awhile plenty of games have had that issue with cs2 being the most recent example
It seems alright but the immersion and hardcore aspects of tarkov are still unmatched. I get its more accessible to casual players which can help expand the player base, which they basically need as its free to play. But the arcade feel leaves me as a tarkov player wanting more out of it. To each their own though.
I mean, Escape From Tarkov is inspired from the Stalker film (by Andrei Tarkovsky) and the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. universe. Escape from Tarkov is literally named after the director of that film. Most people probably haven't played the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. games but EFT has a lot of resemblances with design decisions. Much like S.T.A.L.K.E.R. the entire game world takes place in a restricted zone where various special interest groups, adventurers, gangs, and bandits are trying to get a piece for themselves. Originally EFT even wanted to be open world, and it wanted to replicate "points of interest" like the developers had in the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. series. Escape From Tarkov has certainly made significant contributions to the genre, but at the end of the day it is a First Person Shooter game. EFT does not have the right to cordon off an entire genre of video games and to horde it for themselves, especially given that their game is based off of the mechanics of another popular series. Arena Breakout Infinite has every right to develop a game that looks and even plays similarly to EFT, whether or not people like it.
10:22 I dont care if its a copy. I want Tarkov made by a company that will improve the game in meaningfull ways. Not just constant balance adjustments and changes for streamers.
Having game play elements in a game don’t make things arcadie, they make it a video. Taking the ability to understand what’s going on in a situation isn’t the best game design, making shit confusing and hard to interpret during combat isn’t realism, it’s make things harder to create the illusion of real unpredictability. 7:10 you should know who’s on your team…
@@jowidubolali5417from what I’ve seen its looking objectively better. Better net code, way better frames, no way of cheating, extremely better QOL in many ways, it being literally a FREE game…and those are off the top of my head. So yea, think before u speak next time
@@jowidubolali5417better graphics, better QUOL, better performance, an anti cheat that actually works, being a higher level doesn’t for some fucking reason give your character better stats for a so called “hardcore game”, yeah I would call it superior
@@voidgaming3700 Better graphics? Have you even looked at the animations in it? Looks exactly like cheap chinese knockoff it is. And of course the anti cheat works atm, it just came out. It takes time for cheats and methods around the anti cheat to be made. It's a chinese game, it will be absolutely rife with all sorts of hackers within a couple months.
On the one hand, Ugh. On the other hand, I don't think it had enough of a chance, so yeah. Only thing I really hated was the Not-so-subtle infil mechanic of an obvious landing craft from the sky. 🙄
I've been playing arena breakout since season 1 of the global mobile release. In terms of the recoil, it's mainly because infinite is a souped up mobile port. it's not bad but in terms of some "questionable" things (like the recoil), that's why. i can understand the equipment similarities can throw people off but both arena and tarkov both use equipment based from (if not directly from) reality so i don't understand why that would be such a big deal. in terms of the loot being similar, my best guess is it's to help give similarities to those who have played tarkov get a quick understanding about what loot is extremely valuable. (not 100% sure but that's just my guess). monetization wise, they have a "skin system" that let's you buy customization options for your character but it is based off a gacha system (which i'm not a fan of) but they do also have some customization items you can earn through the ranked system/points. You can also buy gear but genuinely idc about this since gear doesn't mean anything in the game. I've seen people and had myself play with low tier equipment, kill a few people, and come out with some really high tier items. in terms of the allegations, i haven't seen anything that holds any real water personally so i can't really see them being true until some evidence from trusted sources come out about it (I don't trust random people over twitter talking about things because there have been too many cases where trusting those individuals ended up very poorly for situations in general, overall) If you've be2en reading this far, i don't hate tarkov. infact, arena breakout is what pushed me into looking at tarkov and considering playing it for myself, instead of just watching gameplay. but, i've always been skeptical with games being in beta for a long time, still asking for money for said beta, and have their own launcher. I'm not saying early access games are bad but if you have all 3 of the details that i've listed for a game, it screams red flag for me. and unfortunately i was right and the dev team for tarkov decided to eat shit and treat their fanbase like idiots. regardless, I hope tarkov gets their shit together and i hope arena breakout stops getting this "tarkov clone" stigma soon cuz it is truly a fun game and has many details that separate it enough from tarkov that makes it worth playing. i genuinely think both games could not only be good for the extraction shooter genre but i feel if both dev teams and both communities as a whole azctually try, we can have 2 great game communities have some great friendly competition between each other
I don't like how similar they are, gives me a "icky" feeling, especially with obviously ripping Tarkov's old recoil, BUT I have no ill intention towards the game. I think some people are scared it'll kill Tarkov, but I personally don't think it will. What BSG can do is take a look at some of the well received QoL features and implement them in Tarkov in their own way. Tarkov would GREATLY benefit for in game maps, but instead of maps that show where you are, either a map that doesn't show where you are at all, or a map that only gives an radius that you are somewhere in, that also has fog of war that clears up and marks points of interests, extracts, etc. as you explore that map during the wipe.
tarkov needs a map with a compass that actually marks points and has damn names and titles, it also needs wayyyy faster matchmaking times, arena breakouts matchmaking times singlehandedly make me prefer it to tarkov, that and I can play the higher level modes without damn cheaters
I think ABI will be the wake-up call Nikita needs to make those changes that keep the game hardcore, but still less frustrating to play. Gearing up and matching takes way too long, to the extent you could have a four hour game session with only a few raids inbetween. Tarkov does have in-game maps but you need to have them on your person in a raid to be able to view them, if they removed this requirement and made it more accessible with a quick key-press then I think that would be great.
navigation in Tarkov is some of my favorite things about it because it makes you actually navigate things how you would irl without a GPS - which is honestly something not a lot of people will ever experience in their lives.
It would be a better game if it fully had its own identity and I think that’s the whole point. They were willing to cut corners and people still want to play it anyway. Sometimes you should hold people accountable instead of being ignorant just because you want to play with a new toy. If you let this team get away with it, then it’s 2017 again and everything is a shitty battleroyale.
@@josephpuentes7576 Nothing you said has shit to do with what I said. All I’m saying is you should care whether or not they want to put in the work to make a good game. It doesn’t matter if you like tarkov. It’s easier to make a point with a brick wall than you mouth breathers.
I like ABI. It doesn't feel like tarkov in terms of the "get kicked in the dick and like it" that EFT started to feel like over time. I think ABI doing things tarkov would never do is the difference, it's just so much more accessible and quick to get into to. The questing is fun and the PvP feels good. Performance and importantly sound are better.
As a gamer, I just want a good and fun game. If they do it better than EFT? Then EFT needs to step up their shit. Both are good and fun in their own ways. AB:I took the winning formula and made it better in certain aspects while there are certain things that EFT still does better than AB:I.
It doesn’t really bother me tbh. After all this crap with unheard edition and P2W, not to mention over 5k hours, I’d be glad to try something similar but different. Nikita has disappointed me immensely over the years
@@N0ctVrnaL on the surface they are but you have to actually play those games to see the underlying issues that are directly caused my tencent. I could write an essay about the state of league pre tencent and post tencent.
If you aren't in it for P2W we'll ABI might become incredible with P2W as the mobile version you don't even get a secure container unless you pay a monthly sub, you can also buy gear and currency.
at this point with what bsg have been doing I don't care if someone "rips them off" i just hope they fail and if it is replaced by something the same as tarkov that is all the better as long as bsg is not in control of it
I think that if there are copyright infringements they should be taken to court. I also think that this game looks fantastic and a Tarkov with better QoL and optimization sounds like a huge W.
This being an EFT clone IS the reason why I wanna play it. EFT is good but too hard and it feels like it's made for streamers or sweat lords without a social life. Arena seems easier (in-game map, more in-game information, map pinpoints, you know who your teammates are, etc.)
@@godsweakestgamerEvery comp shooter has a sweat, but im just going to repeat what the video said. There is a normal mode and lockdown mode, if you play normal mode you'll barely meet any sweats. But once you hop in lockdown, 1 minute in there is already a squad of 4 full of sweat.
@@antoniohagopian213 But they've already found 60 different cheating variations and as far as I know, have banned 15000 devices over the past two months.
For me, the fact that ABI is so similar is exactly the problem I have with it. I already spent a lot of time with Tarkov and I dont need a game that does the exact same thing. Thats why I usually play Dayz, it scratches the same high tension pvp itch with good loot system , but the survival aspect us much more in depth and a persistant map.
I have 5k hours in tarkov. Been playing since 2020. I dont care if abi copied tarkov at any capacity. It's a win for gamers. Competition will push for improvement. Pretty obvious bsg needs all the push for improvement it can get.
I feel there is a difference between making your own weapon models on unlicensed item vs literally taking the same unlicenced model for yourself without doing the effort. Legality is different from morality.
Just wait until it becomes a kpop fest like they did with PUBG. It's the same company, they didn't solve cheating from 2017 and arenabreakout is already filled with them.
After all that, I guess BSG will have a bit more of a hurry to deliver stuff. If that story of forever unfinished and soon soon soon keeps going, they will lose the audience to their competitors. Competitors who really do a ton of work to deliver as much as possible to overcome bsg in a short term, instead of stalling as much as possible like bsg does.
They took bsg's spaghetti code and managed to make a better playing and more optimized experience before bsg. Bsg got too comfortable with being the only one in the extraction shooters market and are now panicking.
One of the reasons I have 0 interest in playing this game is because there is no downside to playing in a 4 man. At least in EFT you have a chance with good movement and stealth.
@@Apoju1ce well that might be true, it more depends what you pack/how you deal with the squad as a solo player. Yeah, you nine times outta ten are gonna get wiped by a squad because they have better numbers but coming from someone who plays solo all the time its more about positioning and what tactic you use to take them out. Like a grenade or two, leg meta (that's a whole other can of worms I don't wanna touch) and just playing good in general but I see you have a point.
I wished for 2 years playing tarkov, that another studio would make the same game just to not deal with bsg issues (1 account locked and cant even get it back cause shit response), bugs etc, so im finallt going back to the genre cause of this
Lets all admit it. They are straight copying it. Even down to the crap loot. Come on... an awl? lightbulb? cables? If they are going to be that lazy then what else are they going to be lazy with? When I heard this is "free to play" that crapped on it for me.
@@mikedebakker5820 Uhhh every single bit of the loot is the same as tarkov. All of it. That was just 3 examples. You're high if you dont play this game and see the exact rip from tarkov they just dumbed it down.
@@nodnarb101 Definitely not all of it, that's just a lie. Obviously some of it is refferencing Tarkov. But personally I think they just did that as a "fuck you" to BSG. And personally I think that's hilarious.
Imagine working a whole day maybe even 12 hours. You get home to play the game you love, just to find out you have to spend your days paycheck to get something that was theorized to be included in the $150 game you bought 😊
lets be real here... stealing the models of weapons to make a realistic first person model of a weapon and creating that in an engine and rendering it and so on...or ripping the already finished files from someone who has done all that work are two diffrent kind of things
8:54, I mean in EFT we have the higher tier packages and stuff like the Arena mode which I would consider Pay to Win or at least Pay to Fast with how much it gives compared to the base game version. So having a battle pass and a few op items in Arena Breakout maybe isn't so bad as long as its somewhat balanced. And I am not hating on EFT, i am merely criticising it, I've been playing the game for a week straight now and been loving the gameplay loop and mechanics, but I can´t recommend it to anybody cause of its predatory pricing on "DLC" content. So yeah, I hope that Arena Breakout is good, even if it copies some basic stuff from tarkov ,as long as it isn't something outrageous I feel it will be a nice game to play from time to time.
I think one of the biggest elephants in the room with ABI is Tencent. Also what about hackers if the beta is already seeing them how will that problem be solved in a ftp? could it be they put more effort into solving it instead of just banning people so they more copies of the game?
@@AeRoSiKTh Not really, Soviet game design revolves around scamming customers, Chinese game design about stealing from other companies which is a W in my book.
What are your thoughts on Arena Breakout Infinite?
I love it, it's Pepsi to tarkovs Coca-Cola
F2P Chinese game
While some of it is nefarious it might be a wake-up call for the EFT devs to get a move on instead of keeping your playerbase into a constant feeling of discomfort. Haven't played it nor EFT in a while. My go-to is Grayzone warfare at the moment
Competition is good.
this and grayzone both have reallly good potential if they stay true to there own game
Here’s my take. Tarkov finally has competition. Nikita can’t just do whatever he wants now because there’s another game that can cater to the extraction genre. Competition is beneficial for the consumer.
I agree.
i agree too
I super agree
I like the option between tarkov and arena now that arena is better now
@@LoneWolf20213 agreed
On the note of stealing code, based on what I've seen actual programers saying, it seems super unlikely any code was stolen. The two games run on different engines with different coding languages, which means most code simply isn't transferable between the two and would need to be rewritten from scratch. Also apparently those screen shots don't mean very much.
True but its easy to say look this is stolen while providing 'evidence' thats based on nothing since people that know nothing about the subject will believe it anyways if the claim is alligned with their own opinions without actually doing the research on it themselfs.
As an IT student, even if you could copy and paste the code (I know, I've tried before lolol) especially a game that's this complex. It will be a nightmare to fix if there are bugs in the system, and not being familiar with your own code that is potentially hundreds and thousands of lines, good luck adding new stuff in it , even imagining it hurts my brain so much 💀
To play devils advocate, if tarkov was made in Unity with c#, c# code is easier to de-compile than a lot of other languages and it might not be that difficult to port c# code over to c++. To be clear I find it hard to believe anyone would actually do this but I wanted to provide a counterpoint to other replies saying it'd be too hard to do something like this. (PS. I am not an expert)
As a indie game dev I can confirm. C# and C++ are 2 different languages, an adaptation to the code must be applied, but you can convert any language to another without a problem.
The idea is, games are so complex and specific that you simply can't copy code from another game just cause you want to. We always look for inspiration in another games, see how they managed to overcome hurdles, etc... But if I made an extraction shooter today, copying tarkov's code into my game would mean shit, even if we use the same game engine but I can look at what gameobjects in Unity they used for the player controller or how they apply velocity to characters and form an idea or copy the idea, but not the code 'cause that's useless.
someone had to come and show BSG how easy it is to make their game functional and in a way shorter time. and then making it free is the icing on top proving we shouldn't have to pay 150-250 dollars to play a game like this
Fr people be saying you can just buy 50 usd version but when you do you essentially get nothing at the start of the wipe
@@jizzchugger fr, i just bought the 50 dollar version, it sucks, even the price is bad, 50 dollars is a lot of money that couldve been spent on smarter things than that. especially in my country
They’re trolling eft and getting free advertisement while doing it
Exactly, Nikita is literally advertising their game for them. How many people do you think saw Nikita malding about ABI on Twitter and thought to themselves: "Well fuck Nikita, I know what game I'm gonna play". It's honestly genius. 😂
@@mikedebakker5820 their approach on cheaters sold me 🫶🏻
Yup
If you think tarkov isn't getting publicity from it too then you're wrong, tarkov still the best out there and people playing abi won't last longer than they did in tarkov
@@pmarques4322 devs are killing tarkov and many people as they grow up and get lives do not want to be playing such a no life game
I just want a good game. I don't really care who from. All of this drama has pushed me to sign off the mainstream multiplayer games for a while and start working through my backlog of other games. I just want to have fun and not have to worry about what the latest drama or patch changes are.
Good for you man play those games you've wanted to but didn't cause these will always be here
why concern yourself so much with it and not enjoy what you want to play regardless?
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yeh just lowend content creator airbreathers cashing in on the drama, dragging us all into like we are meant to give a fuck
Drama or not play what you want
Whenever there's a clone game it begs the question; why not just play the original? Usually there's not a good answer. So the clone makes a bit at launch just because it's new, then quickly fades, while the original keeps going strong. In this case that answer might be people not wanting to deal with BSG anymore. So a even a straight up clone stands a chance here.
This and Tarkov are super similar but different with the quality of life, and the more arcade feel, is more appealing for a lot of people
@@feddora5776 plus tarkov is in so many ways unnescesary complicated,hard,unintuitive...
BSG keeps taking advantage of the community... it's donzo to me. $250 pve. But it's not DLC... 😂
ABI if everything is done correctly, it will stand over Tarkov, mostly because it's way more accessible to new players. That doesn't mean Tarkov will die, no of course not, Tarkov will keep his player base because it is Tarkov, despite all the issues the game has and how much it hates the player, it has something special. But ABI is just doing everything better so far, they can fuck it up, but so far, it seems a ton more of people will get onto it
In many ways it's also just straight up better than Tarkov.
I’m going to tell you what none of the paid streamers will tell you, people are going to play this over Tarkov because they have a better handle on cheaters
super scummy no, $250 is super scummy.
Free to play is trash. Brings in trash people, and makes for a trash game play experience. I'd much rather pay $250 so it can exclude the kids and griefers.
Actual clown statement, you think 250 is gonna keep them away ahaha.
@saltydroog854
Nobody made you spend $250… a generation of professional victims lmao
@@saltydroog854 unheard edition owner and proud... Thats so embarrassing
Game is still only 40 bucks to buy though
I got a pc recently and I kinda wanted to get into tarkov but I’m a senior in college trying to finish up a tough degree and I just don’t have time to get into tarkov and its complexities. The barrier for entry here is just so much lower while keeping the elements that make tarkov look fun to me
I think that is where ABI is going to shine. Where Tarkov will do best is when you want to take it to the next level and engage with more complicated systems. League of Legends is a fun game to hop in and out of without much commitment with a few buddies but Dota 2, for me, has been my main game when I have the time and motivation to want to delve into the same genre. ABI does look good but I'm going to be honest my main stay for Tarkov is the immersion and hardcore factors it offers
My guy, take a look at SPT. Obviously if PvP is absolutely your thing it wont cut it, but the mods for it make the AI PMCs very challenging and act like real players. No wipes, just play your way.
@Grieva-SeeD- I have been absolutely RIPPING SPT and even convinced a few friends to play the coop mod with me. A lot of fun and it's crazy how well the game can run. I see absolutely no reason to play Tarkovs PvE mode with SPT being ad polished as it is
Edit: Also to piggyback on the AI and PvP. Take a loot at Starvox's channel on SAIN and what his AI presets are. Tbh they are very challenging AI and make up for the lack of pvp
As someone with 2k hours in Tarkov, don't get into Tarkov, it's not worth it. Especially now that we have this game, which is in many wasy also just straight up better.
@@B-Donk More complicated systems❌
Terrible game design choices ✅
The Tarkov community trying to cope with competition is hilarious
they can handle that a free game can be as good as tarkov and with even better anti cheat
6:36 bro this shit had me dying lmaoo
Hahaha good, happy someone appreciated it, immediately thought of that meme when I was editing lol
@@thefrankyb Amazing dude! Art piece haha
@@thefrankyb Amazing job! What an edit that was 🤣Had to watch multiple times
SAME
@@thefrankybThat was an incredible edit dude, nice job. I was laughing my ass off.
It’s a game that respects new players time and as a 10K hr eft player, it reminds me of old tarkov when the game was actually fun
Exactly this. To be honest it's a bit mind blowing how people have been able to endure Tarkov quirks, netcode issues, queue time, etc. for so long.
You feel like you have something to manage, like it's a job or something. It makes literally no sense. It's not "gaming" at this point.
Then they wipe everything and everybody restart again.
10k hrs? thats impressive, whats your ign?
No way 10k hours. Even landmark or pestily don't have that many hours.
Yes they do and I see players with 7k hrs all the time you obviously do not play the game.@@daviddunlap5602
@@daviddunlap5602i mean, baxbeast has 12+k hours
EDIT: LMAO LITERALLY THIS 6:40
tbh i just want the QOL ABI has to be brought into Tarkov, for example the "Quick Equip" Tab is singlehandedly the most useful thing ive seen in a Extraction Shooter, along with being able to ROLL UP EMPTY Bags and UNARMORED Chest Rigs, its just small things like that that really show how Tarkov hasnt been pushed to make new ideas and they need to now implement these kinda things as i believe now we are seeing new "genre standards" even being set by ABI via those kinda QOL Features.
For instance even a ingame map that is actually USEFUL AND USABLE IN GAME would be beneficial to EFT as I know Nakitta knows this but most people if not ALL people just use a 3rd Party Website on the phone/2nd monitor (and if only have one monitor kekw GL tabbing out nonstop to check where you are) so why would it be bad to eliminate the middle man via just putting in a USEFUL INGAME map that can be seen during Raids even? Im not asking for seeing player names above their heads n all as that would take a part of the game out i think Nakitta wants in (Teamkilling lmao)
also being able to not have Friendly fire means you can just randomly match up w other players on a LFG and not worry, ive played ALL of my games with randos in a 4 man and have had a blast... so just a thought btw (Friendlyfire being removed isnt realistic yes but it DOES allow for players to just randomly team up and have fun and not worry about dying to each other or being TKed for their gear...)
Its just like hmmmm.... you know i think they could and should have done half of this stuff already for EFT and maybe now Nakitta will listen more and be open to feedback/changes via community wants and needs.
if you still playing tarkov after 8 years, and hoping for shit like this its pretty sad. nikita wants the game to be a ball bust. just give up and accept he doesnt give a shit
Happy you enjoyed the edit
If Nikita listens, it’ll only be because he realizes that ABI is legitimately going to be a competitor to Tarkov & he’s trying to save his game (rightfully so tbf)
And if EFT does implement a bunch of those things, are they now "ripping off" ABI? lol
lol AB have that feathure since 2 year ago in mobile version
They copied tarkov, fixed all the problems and made it better, im fine with that lol
In addition, Tarkov now has a competitor and has to really dig in to avoid being overshadowed
This is my thought on it as well. They made it so much better. Idk really on how similar things are. Most games are similar to another game in one way or another. Especially when its a genre defining game. The drama will pass. People will forget. Hey this games mobile version has been out for almost a year. That says a lot as well.
Definitely not better. Games feels cheap. Tarkov looks and plays much better. Plus ABI just feels empty. Maybe in 10 years. But at that point unreal engine 4 will be ancient.
@@daviddunlap5602 Arena breakout Infinity Has been in a closed beta for 22 days and Escape of Tarkov has been in beta for 2488 days as long as my calculation is correct
@@daviddunlap5602Wow a 1 month old game doesnt feel good compared to a 7 year game how surprising.
AB mobile player here. The game has kits for guns and gear which you can buy for bonds and koens can be bought for bonds but none of them are useful if you have no skill as a level 9 can blast a level 30 if they have grenades. the only p2w feature are cases as they can store golden or red items which are very valuable and will stay with you if you die, just like tarkov. Gear can be gottten from a 2-4k gun as well as ones above 300k so yeah, just depends on how you play the game.
BSG needed a cup check…
I don't wanna know Nikita's cup size... Spare me pls 😅
By poteitlaly stealing their assets? Look, i'm all for competition but not when you steal the competition.
@@nathanmitchell7961 Assets?? they don't own the cardboard box models, the cat statues or even the way the buildings look
@@XxTheGoOfYxX Ah yes the animations, sounds, game design, game structure, genre, loot, textures and possibly the models are 1:1 to Tarkov, im sure it was an accident dont worry.
We stole the german scientist after ww2 still think we shouldnt have? 😂😂😂 @@nathanmitchell7961
it really feels like one day corporate shows up and tells the developers "look, tarkov has these items and sells, do the same".
and arena made it better
So chinese corporates were like: "Tarkov is a full-price game with microtransactions, keep the microtransactions, but make the game free."
Well why not?
tbh for a free game with better anticheat its already better than 40 dollar tarkov
Chinese development: First Time?
ikr lmao
This is my take alright so arina breakout infinite is basically escape from tarkov but done right I normally play the mobile version but I didn't play very much to the PC version but the mobile version it's basically better than escape from tarkov with monthly updates every update adds like three new weapons and adds like changes to the map / a completely new map add new consumables at new lethals and adds also new armor that you can use and new events pretty much weekly and a anti-cheat that actually works
Wait no friendly fire ... So how am I supposed to get that bronze lion when my team mate picks it up first?
"thats the neat part, you don't"
Grenades
Bait them to the enemy team, then loot them. Loot picked up from that raid isn't marked
be nice
That's how you get prema ban 😂
Yeah I’m sick of games now a days costing 70$ and being unfinished they could care less about our opinions companies kinda do whatever they want to make the most money, tbh I don’t care if arena breakout is a damn carbon copy I already feel more respected.
I love ur game Nikita. But damn rolling up bags to save space....
To be fair I think Marauders was the first Extraction Shooter I played where you could do this. Too bad the new content is too infrequent to keep me playing it for long.
That is one thing I wish they would steal from them lol. I mean it's inly fair to take some things from ABI since they took so much from EFT
@@daviddunlap5602 how the fuck do u roll a massive backpack with stuff in it?
So here’s the deal the courts have already stated that game mechanics cannot be copyrighted
You talking bullshit. There is many game mechanics which is copyrighted, nemesis system for example.
You didn't hear about them, because they exist in a few games.
Also it's not about game mechanics. It's clearly just plagiarism.
And many developers get sued over this
@@Hjartulv bruh what?? Tarkov and ABI just have the same genre so what? It's just adding quality of life features
@@MelJrGarillo-ti3bh like predatory P2W mechanics?
The inventory management between ABI and Tarkov broke me hahahah 10/10. Best video yet. 😂😂
so about the 3d model mesh match / Sound files... A lot of game companies use royalty free assets to cut costs. There are plenty of models you can use and adapt that are created by artists that put them out either for free or charge for a license. Since these are both small games with similar weapon groups, it totally makes sense for a mesh to match another. Probably just got the same file from the same source. Same with sound files. Game devs go to people like me for foley, most companies don't want to hire someone to create their own sound library. It's incredibly expensive and time consuming. Constructing a library from free or licensed audio is a great way to save money and time.
Don't give a damn
It's free
I ain't buying no 250 dollar game to get shat on by some rat on a desk for 20 days straight
And not even have the ability to play offline without mods
9:00 something that came to mind. Since you will be able to buy game currency this will potentially scratch the itch for those that were desperate and bought items from other players in tarkov.
ABI is super accessible. No team killing lets you take newer guys along to try the game without adding threat to you. There’s a compass on the hud. We didn’t have to ask for ammo stats in game. Lastly it’s free. If you’re new and want to try a ball kicker sim, are you going to pay $40 for something you may not like, or do the free game? Tarkov might want to consider some free play weekends so people can try it risk free. Just wipe those accounts and lock access until they buy it.
In the words of Von Dutch artist Kenny Howard, “Nothing is original. Everything is in the subconscious, we just 'tap' it sometimes and think we have originated something”
Dumb quote
@@Smitty.YT1G found the 14 year old
I agree with you
@TSmitty dumb comment/user
It's a great quote! However, it's applicability here is not accurate. There was no intention to even try to create something original here. If you created a "Von Dutch-esque" painting that would be fine but if you took an actual Von Dutch painting and just made it different colors, that's slimy and not an actual artist.
A game that has been in beta for over 10 years deserves to have all the good parts ripped out and placed into a game that hopefully won't be in beta for more than a year. They have been leaning on the fact that they are in beta for too long as a crutch to not fix the issues.
So if you spend a long time developing something you deserve to have your IP stolen? That's not a toxic mindset at all...
I agree with everything said, but ultimately I don’t really care that much. I live Tarkov and still enjoy it, but it’s taking so long for anything to happen with it. It needs competition, even if it’s extremely similar competition.
Abi is definitely in a honeymoon phase right now, plus it only has two maps at this point and I feel like some of its current converts are gonna go back to tarkov it happens in the MMO genre all the time, the new big thing comes out and after you finish the honeymoon phase you crawl back to whatever game you were playing before
it has more. This was a beta. The Asian version of the mobile game has like 6 or 7 I think, and it's a couple seasons ahead of the global version, with 5 maps (iirc).
@@MansterBearglobal version has six maps
not really read mansterbear's replie
Doesn’t mean we’ll get the six anytime soon we might but on a new engine that can take awhile plenty of games have had that issue with cs2 being the most recent example
It seems alright but the immersion and hardcore aspects of tarkov are still unmatched. I get its more accessible to casual players which can help expand the player base, which they basically need as its free to play. But the arcade feel leaves me as a tarkov player wanting more out of it. To each their own though.
The line was crossed when eft added a p2w dlc for 250 dollars
I mean, Escape From Tarkov is inspired from the Stalker film (by Andrei Tarkovsky) and the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. universe. Escape from Tarkov is literally named after the director of that film. Most people probably haven't played the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. games but EFT has a lot of resemblances with design decisions. Much like S.T.A.L.K.E.R. the entire game world takes place in a restricted zone where various special interest groups, adventurers, gangs, and bandits are trying to get a piece for themselves. Originally EFT even wanted to be open world, and it wanted to replicate "points of interest" like the developers had in the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. series.
Escape From Tarkov has certainly made significant contributions to the genre, but at the end of the day it is a First Person Shooter game. EFT does not have the right to cordon off an entire genre of video games and to horde it for themselves, especially given that their game is based off of the mechanics of another popular series. Arena Breakout Infinite has every right to develop a game that looks and even plays similarly to EFT, whether or not people like it.
10:22 I dont care if its a copy. I want Tarkov made by a company that will improve the game in meaningfull ways. Not just constant balance adjustments and changes for streamers.
Having game play elements in a game don’t make things arcadie, they make it a video. Taking the ability to understand what’s going on in a situation isn’t the best game design, making shit confusing and hard to interpret during combat isn’t realism, it’s make things harder to create the illusion of real unpredictability. 7:10 you should know who’s on your team…
CS has Valorant; Dota has LoL; Tarkov has ABI. Tencent has been doing this forever.
Tencent didn't originally own LoL, that came later and Dota 2 had been existing side-by-side for a while.
@@Roland4430 doesn’t Tencdnt wholly own riot games?
@@zeeeNychinese even copy other chinese game mobile legend copy lol
they have big money in 1000 of chinese gamea and they always milking players
I actually like this view point. Its just competition and for me tarkov didnt have a clear competitor till now
Gamers just focus on their games and not in their lessons about entrepreneur stuff.
I just hate we have no actual military sim ultra realistic where everyone starts with the same gear and no advantages
When the clone exceeds the original in every way. Then I don’t consider it a clone.
Exceed?? Lmfao
@@jowidubolali5417 Easily.
@@jowidubolali5417from what I’ve seen its looking objectively better. Better net code, way better frames, no way of cheating, extremely better QOL in many ways, it being literally a FREE game…and those are off the top of my head. So yea, think before u speak next time
@@jowidubolali5417better graphics, better QUOL, better performance, an anti cheat that actually works, being a higher level doesn’t for some fucking reason give your character better stats for a so called “hardcore game”, yeah I would call it superior
@@voidgaming3700 Better graphics? Have you even looked at the animations in it? Looks exactly like cheap chinese knockoff it is. And of course the anti cheat works atm, it just came out. It takes time for cheats and methods around the anti cheat to be made. It's a chinese game, it will be absolutely rife with all sorts of hackers within a couple months.
If there aren't people looting the entire map while standing stationary at spawn then it's already better than Tarkov.
If tarky had half of ABI's QoL i'd play tarkov... but nikita doesn't want to cater to semi casual players
as someone who own both games and prefer old tarkov , ABI PVP feels like home . i left tarkov for you to enjoy inertia :)
I just want The Cycle: Frontier back.
On the one hand, Ugh.
On the other hand, I don't think it had enough of a chance, so yeah.
Only thing I really hated was the Not-so-subtle infil mechanic of an obvious landing craft from the sky. 🙄
Me too
It was a gem. Atmosphere was unmatched in game
yeah, miss it so much
Me too man, was the best extraction shoot for me at least
I've been playing arena breakout since season 1 of the global mobile release. In terms of the recoil, it's mainly because infinite is a souped up mobile port. it's not bad but in terms of some "questionable" things (like the recoil), that's why. i can understand the equipment similarities can throw people off but both arena and tarkov both use equipment based from (if not directly from) reality so i don't understand why that would be such a big deal. in terms of the loot being similar, my best guess is it's to help give similarities to those who have played tarkov get a quick understanding about what loot is extremely valuable. (not 100% sure but that's just my guess). monetization wise, they have a "skin system" that let's you buy customization options for your character but it is based off a gacha system (which i'm not a fan of) but they do also have some customization items you can earn through the ranked system/points. You can also buy gear but genuinely idc about this since gear doesn't mean anything in the game. I've seen people and had myself play with low tier equipment, kill a few people, and come out with some really high tier items. in terms of the allegations, i haven't seen anything that holds any real water personally so i can't really see them being true until some evidence from trusted sources come out about it (I don't trust random people over twitter talking about things because there have been too many cases where trusting those individuals ended up very poorly for situations in general, overall)
If you've be2en reading this far, i don't hate tarkov. infact, arena breakout is what pushed me into looking at tarkov and considering playing it for myself, instead of just watching gameplay. but, i've always been skeptical with games being in beta for a long time, still asking for money for said beta, and have their own launcher. I'm not saying early access games are bad but if you have all 3 of the details that i've listed for a game, it screams red flag for me. and unfortunately i was right and the dev team for tarkov decided to eat shit and treat their fanbase like idiots. regardless, I hope tarkov gets their shit together and i hope arena breakout stops getting this "tarkov clone" stigma soon cuz it is truly a fun game and has many details that separate it enough from tarkov that makes it worth playing. i genuinely think both games could not only be good for the extraction shooter genre but i feel if both dev teams and both communities as a whole azctually try, we can have 2 great game communities have some great friendly competition between each other
I worry about bsg as much as they worry about me. Arena Breakout looks dope, can’t wait to try it
there is a mobile port if ya can't wait
bro the cycle frontier was such a good game, i hope they revive it someday
I don't like how similar they are, gives me a "icky" feeling, especially with obviously ripping Tarkov's old recoil, BUT I have no ill intention towards the game. I think some people are scared it'll kill Tarkov, but I personally don't think it will. What BSG can do is take a look at some of the well received QoL features and implement them in Tarkov in their own way. Tarkov would GREATLY benefit for in game maps, but instead of maps that show where you are, either a map that doesn't show where you are at all, or a map that only gives an radius that you are somewhere in, that also has fog of war that clears up and marks points of interests, extracts, etc. as you explore that map during the wipe.
yeah even just a hand drawn map, it slowly fills up, itsnt super descriptive etc
tarkov needs a map with a compass that actually marks points and has damn names and titles, it also needs wayyyy faster matchmaking times, arena breakouts matchmaking times singlehandedly make me prefer it to tarkov, that and I can play the higher level modes without damn cheaters
I think ABI will be the wake-up call Nikita needs to make those changes that keep the game hardcore, but still less frustrating to play. Gearing up and matching takes way too long, to the extent you could have a four hour game session with only a few raids inbetween. Tarkov does have in-game maps but you need to have them on your person in a raid to be able to view them, if they removed this requirement and made it more accessible with a quick key-press then I think that would be great.
navigation in Tarkov is some of my favorite things about it because it makes you actually navigate things how you would irl without a GPS - which is honestly something not a lot of people will ever experience in their lives.
@@Globalnet626 People dont navigate shit lol they just no life the game and memorize the maps
Holy , thats funny and correct at the same time !! 06:40 lmao !
China gonna China man, idgaf im going to play it as long as its up.
i had fun playing this game thats all that matters to me
100% true. Idk if they copy eft. Arena makes lot more fun for me casual noobie. So I keep playing it.
It would be a better game if it fully had its own identity and I think that’s the whole point. They were willing to cut corners and people still want to play it anyway. Sometimes you should hold people accountable instead of being ignorant just because you want to play with a new toy. If you let this team get away with it, then it’s 2017 again and everything is a shitty battleroyale.
@@_Bonez12 Its tencent they are a huge company they do not care also fuck tarkov nikita makes the game more pay to win everyday
@@josephpuentes7576 Nothing you said has shit to do with what I said. All I’m saying is you should care whether or not they want to put in the work to make a good game. It doesn’t matter if you like tarkov.
It’s easier to make a point with a brick wall than you mouth breathers.
@@_Bonez12 I was just stating reality dont get your panties in a bunch
when you compare that water in Arena Breakout Infinite vs Tarkov :D. It is soo much different. Water in Arena looks really nice.
It’s like an alternate universe Tarkov XD
I like ABI. It doesn't feel like tarkov in terms of the "get kicked in the dick and like it" that EFT started to feel like over time. I think ABI doing things tarkov would never do is the difference, it's just so much more accessible and quick to get into to. The questing is fun and the PvP feels good. Performance and importantly sound are better.
As a gamer, I just want a good and fun game. If they do it better than EFT? Then EFT needs to step up their shit. Both are good and fun in their own ways.
AB:I took the winning formula and made it better in certain aspects while there are certain things that EFT still does better than AB:I.
I don't think they care that there copying they jus wanted to make a good game!!
It doesn’t really bother me tbh. After all this crap with unheard edition and P2W, not to mention over 5k hours, I’d be glad to try something similar but different. Nikita has disappointed me immensely over the years
As someone who played thousands of hours of league and pubg I can tell you it’s just as frustrating to deal with tencent.
@@HarryANuis-gi9hz I completely believe you honestly..no company is perfect but I’m just interested in trying something new
League and Pubg have both been going strong for years. Finished games.
@@N0ctVrnaL on the surface they are but you have to actually play those games to see the underlying issues that are directly caused my tencent. I could write an essay about the state of league pre tencent and post tencent.
If you aren't in it for P2W we'll ABI might become incredible with P2W as the mobile version you don't even get a secure container unless you pay a monthly sub, you can also buy gear and currency.
ohhhh Jesse you are brave to tackle this topic, crazy that this isnt just what the entire world is saying
i still want to play it....and BSG hating it, makes me what to play it more
A Chinese company "reflecting" another company's intellectual property. Say it aint so...
Except they made it better lmao
at this point with what bsg have been doing I don't care if someone "rips them off" i just hope they fail and if it is replaced by something the same as tarkov that is all the better as long as bsg is not in control of it
I play this because it's Tarkov but with friendly markers, a map, and a very simple weapon customization / loadout system.
I haven't had this much fun in a extraction shooter in a LONG time. ABI has been a blast to play & stream
I think that if there are copyright infringements they should be taken to court. I also think that this game looks fantastic and a Tarkov with better QoL and optimization sounds like a huge W.
Arena breakout Infinity is just the PC Version of Arena breakout
200 IQ
It's not a port 😂 it's a completely different game
@@MalRak02 Not realy Most of it is still the Same (500 Hours in mobile 5 in PC)
Very comprehensive video, you covered everything I think was important. Cant wait to see where this genre goes.
Nikita can complain about theft only after everyone who wants a refund gets it
My biggest issue with EFT is cheaters, ABI at least looks to address this a lot more. That might swing it for me. I just want fair play.
This being an EFT clone IS the reason why I wanna play it. EFT is good but too hard and it feels like it's made for streamers or sweat lords without a social life. Arena seems easier (in-game map, more in-game information, map pinpoints, you know who your teammates are, etc.)
I mean if ya really can't wait there is a mobile port it has sweats who jump shot though
@@godsweakestgamerthe mobile is the first version to release , they just made a pc version not a mobile to pc port
@@godsweakestgamerEvery comp shooter has a sweat, but im just going to repeat what the video said. There is a normal mode and lockdown mode, if you play normal mode you'll barely meet any sweats. But once you hop in lockdown, 1 minute in there is already a squad of 4 full of sweat.
This game has less tension than Tarkov. It makes the game more casual and fun to play to those who can’t spend too many hours playing
At least Tencent will take the cheating issue seriously!
no they wont. mobile is full of cheaters
Especially since they don't make money from cheaters like eft does... By selling account after a ban wave ...
Haha pubg would like to have a word with you. They didn't stop cheating since 2017. The closed beta is already filled with cheaters.
@@antoniohagopian213 But they've already found 60 different cheating variations and as far as I know, have banned 15000 devices over the past two months.
Personally, i would still play that over tarkov
I really liked the cycle, I wish it worked out.
For me, the fact that ABI is so similar is exactly the problem I have with it. I already spent a lot of time with Tarkov and I dont need a game that does the exact same thing. Thats why I usually play Dayz, it scratches the same high tension pvp itch with good loot system , but the survival aspect us much more in depth and a persistant map.
I have 5k hours in tarkov. Been playing since 2020. I dont care if abi copied tarkov at any capacity. It's a win for gamers. Competition will push for improvement. Pretty obvious bsg needs all the push for improvement it can get.
I think it's more of Arena Breakout just heavily replicating Tarkov because they knew they could be more successful with an arcade feel.
im ready for a tarkov replacement, and i dont have to pay for it? im in
For now!!!
@@HighImPoe never had to pay for fortnite
@@HighImPoemobile version has existed for a few years now and it was always free to play, I don't see why this would be any different.
@@HighImPoedude mobile version (the orginnal) existed globally for free for 4 months
One of them is nearing 1 years (the chinese version)
its free and way easier to run which are two really good things to build a playerbase
I feel there is a difference between making your own weapon models on unlicensed item vs literally taking the same unlicenced model for yourself without doing the effort. Legality is different from morality.
I hope they did steal it.
They made the eft that we all wanted and now we're mad because they listened to the player base?
Just wait until it becomes a kpop fest like they did with PUBG. It's the same company, they didn't solve cheating from 2017 and arenabreakout is already filled with them.
After all that, I guess BSG will have a bit more of a hurry to deliver stuff. If that story of forever unfinished and soon soon soon keeps going, they will lose the audience to their competitors. Competitors who really do a ton of work to deliver as much as possible to overcome bsg in a short term, instead of stalling as much as possible like bsg does.
They took bsg's spaghetti code and managed to make a better playing and more optimized experience before bsg. Bsg got too comfortable with being the only one in the extraction shooters market and are now panicking.
May the best game win. The fact that ABI is making changes we all wanted will force tarkovs hand into coping ABI lol
Even if its a copy, aslong it is better, tbh idc, im a consumer not a true beliver.
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One of the reasons I have 0 interest in playing this game is because there is no downside to playing in a 4 man. At least in EFT you have a chance with good movement and stealth.
play solo then bruh
@@godsweakestgamer The point is squads have a massive advantage vs solo players, much more than in Tarkov or gzw
@@Apoju1ce well that might be true, it more depends what you pack/how you deal with the squad as a solo player. Yeah, you nine times outta ten are gonna get wiped by a squad because they have better numbers but coming from someone who plays solo all the time its more about positioning and what tactic you use to take them out. Like a grenade or two, leg meta (that's a whole other can of worms I don't wanna touch) and just playing good in general but I see you have a point.
Can't wait to play ABI man
I wished for 2 years playing tarkov, that another studio would make the same game just to not deal with bsg issues (1 account locked and cant even get it back cause shit response), bugs etc, so im finallt going back to the genre cause of this
Lets all admit it. They are straight copying it. Even down to the crap loot. Come on... an awl? lightbulb? cables? If they are going to be that lazy then what else are they going to be lazy with? When I heard this is "free to play" that crapped on it for me.
I didn't know Nikita invented lightbulbs and cables?
@@mikedebakker5820 Uhhh every single bit of the loot is the same as tarkov. All of it. That was just 3 examples. You're high if you dont play this game and see the exact rip from tarkov they just dumbed it down.
@@nodnarb101 Definitely not all of it, that's just a lie. Obviously some of it is refferencing Tarkov. But personally I think they just did that as a "fuck you" to BSG. And personally I think that's hilarious.
Imagine working a whole day maybe even 12 hours. You get home to play the game you love, just to find out you have to spend your days paycheck to get something that was theorized to be included in the $150 game you bought 😊
I get people are mad at bsg, and for good enough reason, but ABI is such blatant plagiarism it's comical.
It's not, that's like saying Pepsi is blatent plagiarism of Coke.
@@mikedebakker5820 They just kept coping
Unheard edition owner lol
And?
Right
lets be real here... stealing the models of weapons to make a realistic first person model of a weapon and creating that in an engine and rendering it and so on...or ripping the already finished files from someone who has done all that work are two diffrent kind of things
let me guess your a person who thinks LI (Level infinite) stole assets from BSG? (battlestate games)
8:54, I mean in EFT we have the higher tier packages and stuff like the Arena mode which I would consider Pay to Win or at least Pay to Fast with how much it gives compared to the base game version. So having a battle pass and a few op items in Arena Breakout maybe isn't so bad as long as its somewhat balanced.
And I am not hating on EFT, i am merely criticising it, I've been playing the game for a week straight now and been loving the gameplay loop and mechanics, but I can´t recommend it to anybody cause of its predatory pricing on "DLC" content.
So yeah, I hope that Arena Breakout is good, even if it copies some basic stuff from tarkov ,as long as it isn't something outrageous I feel it will be a nice game to play from time to time.
I'm so glad they crossed the line. Nikita deserves it.
I think one of the biggest elephants in the room with ABI is Tencent. Also what about hackers if the beta is already seeing them how will that problem be solved in a ftp? could it be they put more effort into solving it instead of just banning people so they more copies of the game?
It’s not 250$ so I like it 😂 but tbh if they had any foot to stand on it wouldn’t be a twitter battle on who stole what or copied what. IMO
Copying is how 98% of things get made unless it's a novel idea. You copy and tweak in ways you believe make it better.
Welcome to Chinese game design? Idk
Can confirm it's better than Russian game design.
Evidently it’s the same 😂
@@AeRoSiKTh Not really, Soviet game design revolves around scamming customers, Chinese game design about stealing from other companies which is a W in my book.