The Abyss Order Isn't What You Think| Genshin Impact Theory Time

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  • Опубликовано: 29 июн 2024
  • A theory video about the monsters of the Abyss the Order. Using some unexpected clues from all the acts of the We Will Be Reunited quest tree, I'm going show you how the history of Khaenriah's fall unfolded and why Dainslief hates the Abyss Order so much.
    Spoilers Ahead! So Beware!!
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  • @Fog_Fleet
    @Fog_Fleet Год назад +82

    I think that the Traveler should ask such questions to Dainslef. But the time has not yet come...

  • @alonsodehermes2885
    @alonsodehermes2885 Год назад +36

    There were hilichurls before the Khaenri'ah fell (+1000y ago), because there have been other Cataclysms in other nations, so some abyssal creatures aren't from Khaenri'ah. But regardless, I think that you're right about the Abyss sibling being deceived. My personal theory is that they aren't the true Khaenri'ah prince/princess either, but were tricked into believing they are, assuming that the BP cutscene is about them.

  • @KoenSkySea
    @KoenSkySea 6 месяцев назад +7

    Just looked up "facial ulceration" and when its most severe and holy shit. I cant imagine how Caribert felt when he saw his face

  • @irenemathew6699
    @irenemathew6699 6 месяцев назад +11

    agreed. current evidence shows that abyss heralds are not necessarily from khaenri'ah. Jacob was evidence of this.

    • @theunlikelygenshingamer
      @theunlikelygenshingamer  6 месяцев назад +3

      I was intrigued by his disdain for the Abyss Order as well it's as though he thought they were lame.

    • @irenemathew6699
      @irenemathew6699 6 месяцев назад +1

      They are most likely creatures that have and are still able to maintain intelligence while having abyssal power flowing through them. so far, most people we know that exist before getting turned had strong bodies. albredich's curse of immortality and jacob eating elynas's flesh which was written in engmatic pages shows this. @@theunlikelygenshingamer

  • @lonelywolf777
    @lonelywolf777 Год назад +7

    After 3.6 trailer this seem to make even more sense

  • @Furina_Neuvi
    @Furina_Neuvi Год назад +9

    It coud be that thous aren't all Khaenri'ahan but from other nations that aren't cursed but joined the abyss (order)

  • @erikboncoref.7020
    @erikboncoref.7020 Год назад +16

    Here I can remember Nahida's words: Lumine's memories and fate in Irminsul are being blocked and somehow altered by an entity or force that the Dendro Archon is incapable of recognizing, let alone facing

    • @hirods9889
      @hirods9889 Год назад +3

      She said someone is hiding her fate but she didn't talk about her memories being altered

    • @erikboncoref.7020
      @erikboncoref.7020 Год назад +3

      @@hirods9889 right, I think I need to rewatch the scene! Thanks for that!

    • @hirods9889
      @hirods9889 Год назад +3

      @@erikboncoref.7020 Sure, I often go re-watch the dialogues, there is too much to remember all exactly

    • @erikboncoref.7020
      @erikboncoref.7020 Год назад +3

      @@hirods9889 yeah, I'm no IslandXD or Ashikai, but I love this game's lore

  • @YaBoyTarek
    @YaBoyTarek Год назад +11

    Yeah I'm also adamant that Khanri'ah and Abyss are 2 different factions. I also believe that these 2 parties have existed for a long time. (When I mean the abyss, I don't mean the abyss order. They are also different entities)

    • @kellbear23
      @kellbear23 Год назад +5

      wasn't it confirmed that the abyss always existed as it's own thing? since that's where the forbidden knowledge comes from in the first place

  • @Raphael-ys1uq
    @Raphael-ys1uq Год назад +10

    There are those abandoned by Celestia and set upon with the curse of the Abyss.
    And those who are Blessed By The Abyss.

    • @theunlikelygenshingamer
      @theunlikelygenshingamer  Год назад +1

      Maybe 🤔. I'm doing the new quests now and there are a lot of hints and clues about the Abyss. Hopefully we learn more. Thanks for watching and commenting I really appreciate it 😁

  • @Nowaylarry
    @Nowaylarry Год назад +16

    I think this theory has some merit. It is clear that Abyss Mages, Lectors and Heralds aren't effected by the curse. This could be as you proposed (they are actually from the abyss itself). I do think there is still a considerable chance that they are former Khaenri'ahns though.
    It could be that what happened to Caribert at the end of the quest was a 'lifting' of the curse of sorts. By reconstructing his person into an abyssal creature (Mage, Herald, Lector). Placing him outside of the laws of Teyvat and 'rewriting' his fate. Hence loom of fate. The Loom of Fate project in the current time period of the game does seem to be an attempt to create a proxy of the Sinner that seemingly 'cured' Caribert. If that is what actually happened to him I could see the Abyss twin trying to make a way to do the same on a grand scale.
    Dain could see the creatures of the abyss as not being his people because they are on a physical level, entirely new entities. Becoming someone and something entirely different would logically be a way to remove a curse that was placed on a person at the level of their fate itself. New person. New fate. No more curse. Celestia's battle against and surpression of the abyss makes sense if it can completely undermine Celestia's control over Teyvat.
    Personally I think with the information currently in the game it is to soon to tell exactly what the Lectors and the like are exactly but I enjoyed your video and I think the theory does have a lot of merit. Perhaps the new abyss boss next patch will give us some more to work with.
    edit; In regards to the cryo lector we met in the Caribert quest, there was that city in the chasm that, according to Dain, was similar in architecture to Khaenri'ah but seemed far older. The lector could have been from there (just based on proximity). The Nail in the Chasm points to a possible precursor to what happened in Khaenri'ah with a similar outcome.

    • @theunlikelygenshingamer
      @theunlikelygenshingamer  Год назад +3

      You make a number of very good points, I believe the civilization that is in the chasm is the very same people who in another part of the world formed the colony of Enkanomiya. The same civilization who was severely damaged when the Primordial One unleashed the Nails to deal with the corruption that was introduced with the Second who Came. This information can be found in the Paradise Lost artifact set from Sumeru. With that being so, the Cryo lector would then prove that the existence of such creatures predates the Khaenri’ahns at least.
      If you're right maybe some of those people became Abyss creatures as well.
      I loved your in depth comment because it's always fun to come across other theory crafters.
      Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts, I'm glad you enjoyed.😁

  • @hirods9889
    @hirods9889 Год назад +15

    really interestng analysis. I didn't realise for the abyss lector at the start but I did have my suspicions about them. The fact that Chlothard meet them after the Cataclysm, the fact that Dain don't like the gods but he doesn't despise them like the Abyss.
    This one is more like a feeling but why not work with the Fatui if you have the same objectives? Unless they don't have the same objctives at all

    • @Sacration
      @Sacration Год назад +2

      THIS

    • @hirods9889
      @hirods9889 Год назад +1

      @@Sacration that?

    • @Sacration
      @Sacration Год назад

      @@hirods9889 Just a way of agreeing with you

  • @K.G444
    @K.G444 Год назад +7

    I’ve been saying this for a while; Nice to see someone with the same views. That dainslief Chasm quest subtlety revealed a lot

    • @theunlikelygenshingamer
      @theunlikelygenshingamer  Год назад +3

      I know right? I think the Chasm Dainslief quest has been my favorite of his quests because it revealed a lot and he was more expressive in it. I feel like we learned a lot about him as well.
      Thanks for watching and commenting!

  • @Charlie-ov1bj
    @Charlie-ov1bj Год назад +17

    I think the abyss manipulated Lumine's mind... They must have done some thing to her... Even the irminsul registered her... Only those who are from teyvat gets registered in the irminsul... Some things just doesnt make sense yet

    • @theunlikelygenshingamer
      @theunlikelygenshingamer  Год назад +8

      Yes, what if the tampering with the leylines the Dainslief mentioned was them editing Lumine in at that point.
      That would explain why Aether was accidentally able to tap into her memory.
      There are a lot of things that don't add up yet but its been fun theorizing.
      Thanks for watching and commenting!

    • @Charlie-ov1bj
      @Charlie-ov1bj Год назад +5

      @@theunlikelygenshingamer only if the dain quests came a bit sooner... The long intervals between the quests are messed up...
      💪 Keep up the good work 😊

    • @LoveYourself-my9nz
      @LoveYourself-my9nz Год назад +2

      @@Charlie-ov1bj yes! There is also this story in genshin where they tell about two siblings who were fighting for right but one got manipulated by evil and now think that they are the prince/princess of that evil group and now the other sibling is fighting against them. So it does make sense that story is about traveler and abyss had manipulated the other sibling.

  • @Skyrem22
    @Skyrem22 10 месяцев назад +13

    At this point, I am unsure which side we will support, either the abyss or the celestia. Both sides inherits a villainous act that changed Teyvat, itself. Abyss, simply put, a rather self-explanatory, while Celestia on the other hand is rather, say, very complicated. This is the sole reason why Archons wanted to cut ties with the Celestia and The Tsaritsa would want to overthrow it. Siding on one of these 2 opposing forces would break the balance. That begs the question, who really is the main antagonist of the story?

    • @theunlikelygenshingamer
      @theunlikelygenshingamer  10 месяцев назад +3

      The story really is building up in a away that leaves us guessing. At this point we really could end up going sibling vs sibling.
      I can't wait to see the Dainslief quest for Fontaine to learn more.
      Thanks for watching and commenting and I hope you're enjoying Fontaine as much as I am 😁 I have a couple of videos already in the works from it. It been vert fun.

    • @Skyrem22
      @Skyrem22 10 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@theunlikelygenshingamer Me too! Saying I'm eager to see Dainslief's quest is an understatement since his quests alone are a massive lore bomb!
      The game got so much lore that we can't ingest it all in one sitting, besides there are still mysterious characters we are yet to meet. The Hexenzirkel witches, Varka, and even others such as The Second Who Came, Skirk, etc. All these characters will hold the key to fully completing the plot of Genshin impact itself.
      Anyways please continue to be good as ever! More power to you and your channel.

    • @khanhquocvong
      @khanhquocvong 10 месяцев назад +5

      What side are the vishaps on? Cause I’m rooting for them

    • @Skyrem22
      @Skyrem22 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@khanhquocvong I don't know much about the circulating lore of the Vishaps but what I know is that, they dwell in the abyss.

    • @shigeru-kun
      @shigeru-kun 7 месяцев назад +3

      Why not just destroy both? I hate both sides anyways.

  • @Sacration
    @Sacration Год назад +9

    I love the voice, the music and the narration is great. Im subscribing immediatly !
    And after watching the 3.6 livestream I 80% agree with you. Why ??
    Because of these lines : "I come from an ancient race, we have existed for a very long time, possibly longer than any record in existence" and "We were victime of the apocalypse... we later became the apocalypse itself"
    If it is said by The Iniquitous Baptist then that makes me to believe her and other members are Creatures of the abyss, coming from the abyssal realm and the description of the boss reasured me... BUT thing is, why lie? Why do they have the black star of Khaenri'ha ?
    Ahah I love to theorise

  • @Furina_Neuvi
    @Furina_Neuvi Год назад +14

    Maby she meant hillichruls but she 100%was either manipulated or she knowes stuff we don't know yet

    • @otakushadow3259
      @otakushadow3259 Год назад +3

      Based on Caribert's quest she 100% was

    • @Furina_Neuvi
      @Furina_Neuvi Год назад +1

      @@otakushadow3259 wdym ?

    • @Furina_Neuvi
      @Furina_Neuvi Год назад +4

      @@otakushadow3259 i just played the quest she ptobably still meant hillichruls

  • @Necrochaosium
    @Necrochaosium Год назад +14

    When the "abyss" twin got close to the sinner's gem thats when they were subverted, affected by the sinner and changed path, dainsleif himself says that they changed after that meeting and she told him NONE of what happened in there it was only the traveller who told him of what transpired in there. The abyss order was formed by chlothar but that doesnt mean the heralds formed then as we know the frost herald was guarding the sinner well before. There sounds like there is a way to turn somebody into an abyss herald like enjou from eukanamiya seems to be, in doing so this removes any curse. I think the sinner himself is responsible for the curse and it was some mechanism to strike back at the primordial one (another reason why I still think it's the second who came in the sinner's gem). It was temporarily stopped by the sustainer & the archons at the time of the cataclysm.

    • @theunlikelygenshingamer
      @theunlikelygenshingamer  Год назад +4

      I agree with a lot of this. The fact that the abyss twin hid from Dain what had happened means that they definitely changed at that point, in fact if they were traveling with him all that time before where was that animosity towards his supposed failings to save his people.
      All of a sudden after meet clothar Dainslief is the enemy. Very sus.
      I also think the Second who came had to do with the Sinner, in fact I think "He" and the Abyss ARE the second who came based on some quotes from the Mistress of Flowers.
      All in all there is still a lot to uncover which is half the fun😁
      Glad you enjoyed and thanks for watching and commenting!

    • @Necrochaosium
      @Necrochaosium Год назад +2

      @@theunlikelygenshingamer Given that Dainsleif KNOWS who he is, but just hasnt told the traveller yet, because he knows that "time isnt an impediment to one such as him". Given that time isnt an impediment is why I think the sinner has actually be corrupting entities at various time spots. The "apocalypse" which was when the seelies were downcast could well have been when the abyss itself entered teyvat. I think the abyss is also directly related to forbidden knowledge. Maybe this knowledge itself is how the abyss influence enters people/gods/etc and why celestia is so afraid of it.

  • @AnArtistInAVoid
    @AnArtistInAVoid Год назад +9

    It is becoming ever clearer that the final enemy in the story is likely whatever the Sinner that lurks in the abyss is.
    As for why the sibling sides with the abyss, I feel like she might’ve been affected by the same Sinner that Clothar Alberich became obsessed with.

  • @stormridersk
    @stormridersk Год назад +11

    I think the world may be resetting kinda like a samsara. At a certain point. Your twin might be going through a different routine than how we started because they also know how our journey ends. It would explain why they say we have plenty of time for us once we reach the end.

    • @kellbear23
      @kellbear23 Год назад +3

      well they also probably said we have plenty of time bc it seems like we're some sort of immortal considering the siblings are over 500 years old

  • @DavidJohnson-ib1dh
    @DavidJohnson-ib1dh Год назад +11

    Well the Lector in the dream sequence with Chlothar wasn't with the Abyss order. The Traveler says it doesn't look like a member of the Abyss Order. And the game system labels them as - what was it - a Fortune Lector? And Enjou hints that he may be older than the Cataclysm too (when he compares Enkanomiya with human civilizations that had divine envoys) Plus we have Hilichurls created before the Cataclysm from the event in Gurabad and presumably some other incident (three tribes of Hilichurls = three incidents), as well as Ukko from Dragonspine. So, sure, not every single Hilichurl was Khaenri'ahn and not every single Lector is Abyss Order, but when Dainslief first meets the Herald in the defiled Statue story, the Herald remarks that Dainsleif has the same stink of corruption as he himself has, and from Zuran we know when she met Dainsleif near Tunigi Hollow half his body was already corrupted. And obviously we know Caribert used to be a Hilichurl. Also Enjou says in one of his throw-away lines that appear to be truthful, that he was cursed and that's how he became a Lector. While he may not be Khaenri'ahn he did become a Lector by the same way they are supposed to it seems. Plus the archive descriptions of the baptist says it evolved it's extra arms (suggesting it started out as humanoid). Finally in the new region in 3,6 we meet a Lector that apparently used to be a human member of the skeptics called, Klingsor. He's not the only named lector or herald though. So whatever they used to be, they have names now, suggesting people rather than beasts.

    • @jaekawang
      @jaekawang 10 месяцев назад +4

      the overworld bosses have names too. it would be crazy if weve just been fighting former humans the whole game

  • @WastedTalent83
    @WastedTalent83 Год назад +11

    if i remember well... the npc in enkanomiya that become the first Pyro abyss lector, doesn't have the same eyes as the people from kaenriha , that's either something developer forgot to add..
    Or its just proof alone, that those monsters aren't cursed people.

    • @theunlikelygenshingamer
      @theunlikelygenshingamer  Год назад +2

      Thats a very good point. I think 'The Thing Calling It Self Enjou' was just that; a thing that was masquerading as a person from Watasumi named Enjou so he could earn your trust.
      When that didnt work he reverted back to the Abyss creature he always was.

    • @kotarouinugami1745
      @kotarouinugami1745 6 месяцев назад +1

      It is very much possible that Enjou is from some other episode of curse. Maybe he is from Sal Vindagnyr civilization. Or from Gurabad.
      Or maybe he just wears contact lenses that make his eyes seem normal.

  • @Sean.A.M
    @Sean.A.M Год назад +7

    There is way more factions/groups in this game and layers then I thought when I first started playing. To begin I thought monsters/ abyss same, against tevat. Now we know there’s khaenri'ah the
    cursed, abyss, celestia , fatui, gods, normal tevat.
    Some people are our enemies but in the future will they be? I figure even the gods ( the 7) fatui and khaenri'ah ppl will all be against the abyss and pro possibly even celestia. I go back and forth on whether celestia is evil or not and maybe it’s not even the highest up. We don’t know if the second who came won or the primordial one. Still no clue what paimon is.
    We will see

  • @creatingpulsars9979
    @creatingpulsars9979 Год назад +10

    Obviously we don’t know for sure but I also got suspicious during Caribert. His admiration felt off. The timing seemed kind of confusing. If he founded the abyss order yet the abyss order is comprised of sibling, heralds, etc if they were khaenrian, why did he erode and potentially break his curse and die? Why wouldn’t he have become like the heralds? If the pure bloods became cursed like Dain and the immigrants were cursed into being hilis then who became these monsters of the abyss? I don’t know if I agree 100% with everything in this video but you definitely brought up a lot of what I’ve been wondering about since caribert came out.

    • @theunlikelygenshingamer
      @theunlikelygenshingamer  Год назад +1

      Thank you so much for watching and commenting. Caribert really brought up a lot more questions than it seems at first. And you made a good point about if he admired them so much and they are khaenri'ahns then why didn't he eventually become one.
      I can't wait to find out more in the upcoming version 3.6 quests.
      Thanks again for watching!

  • @istvancsanyi1344
    @istvancsanyi1344 Год назад +7

    This actually makes a lot of sense. I always had a bit of hunch that the Abyss creatures didnt care for Kaenri'ah so this is a nice confirmation for it. I fear tho that hoyo could still pull a 180 out of their asses for no good reason. It would be a really good story point tho for the twins. The Traveler ending the corruption of the sibling and together they defeat the Abyss and shake the Heavenly Principles.

    • @theunlikelygenshingamer
      @theunlikelygenshingamer  Год назад +1

      It would be just like Hoyo to suddenly thrown in a curve ball but it's been fun theorizing so far.
      Can't wait to see what else we learn in the upcoming quests.
      Thank you so much for checking out my video and leaving feedback 😁

  • @nabieladrian
    @nabieladrian Год назад +6

    This video solidifies the distinction between Khaenri'ah and Abyss (not Order) pretty well.
    I think the Abyss is literally the dark force.

  • @verylazypigeon
    @verylazypigeon Год назад +9

    Haha, it would be funny if the war was indeed taking place, because Khaenria'h had mechas (Evangelions) and the Abyss mages wear the masks which looks like angels' ones (angels from Evangelion)..........

    • @verylazypigeon
      @verylazypigeon Год назад +4

      Also, uh, mitachurls and lavachurls wear the abyss mages' skulls...........

    • @theunlikelygenshingamer
      @theunlikelygenshingamer  Год назад +2

      I never even thought of why they have abyss mage masks. Maybe that's why you only ever see Abyss mages directing and converting the smaller ones.

    • @verylazypigeon
      @verylazypigeon Год назад +1

      @@theunlikelygenshingamer yeah, I thought they can kill them because of your theory of hatred between them???

  • @Rudolvstro
    @Rudolvstro Год назад +11

    I think that the abyss has a way to undo the curse but it is still suspicious why all the khaenri‘ahs don’t like the abyss and I think that the first and second who came have something to do with this not directly but indirectly

    • @theunlikelygenshingamer
      @theunlikelygenshingamer  Год назад +1

      😁 Those are the kind of questions these quests leave us with. There is so much to find out about these entities and the plans they have for Teyvat.
      Thanks for watching and leaving a commenting hope you tune in for the next one!

  • @Markcrazeer
    @Markcrazeer Год назад +5

    i feel like the sibling isn't a descender because the abyss wanted to use the irminsul to rewrite history and their memory to turn them into the abyssal prince(ss). back in the day, they were like us, they arrived here during the time leading up to and after the cataclysm, kahnria (can't be bothered to spell it right.) was their mondstadt, they may or may not have been made the ruler or heir but they traveled with dainslief and saw the world, at the end of their journey about the same time as the sneshnaya arc for us the abyss successfully registered them into the irminsul and then rewrote what happened during the cataclysm to make them look like the good guys to the sibling. leading into the events of calibert and the modern-day story.
    while I do think Celestia is not to be trusted, the sibling should have worked with the archons after this point to correct what they saw as their flaws, but the abyss convinced them that their only allies were the abyss and that the only just course of action is to burn both Celestia and teyvat to the ground.

    • @theunlikelygenshingamer
      @theunlikelygenshingamer  Год назад

      I really like your thinking, this theory is pretty interesting. I can't wait to play the new world quest and see what else we learn. Thanks for leaving such a cool comment and for watching my video😁

  • @Fog_Fleet
    @Fog_Fleet Год назад +10

    I agree that this is all very suspicious. But we are not told anything directly, which leaves room for speculation)))

    • @theunlikelygenshingamer
      @theunlikelygenshingamer  Год назад +9

      It is all very sus. Have you noticed how there are often little web events that feature the hilichurls in a cute way from time to time. As though maybe we shouldn't dislike them so much cause they're not so bad. But those abyss creatures are always the enemy.
      I can't wait to see what we learn in new quests and events.
      Thanks for watching, I really appreciate it!!

    • @Fog_Fleet
      @Fog_Fleet Год назад +4

      @@theunlikelygenshingamer Yes you are right. The more we learn about opponents, the fewer enemies we have in the future)))

  • @addisynsanders3805
    @addisynsanders3805 Год назад +10

    Ok I just recently subscribed but I feel like that the “abyssal creatures” can be place into two groups those who were born from abyssal origin and those who BECAME abyssal beings via a curse, forbidden knowledge corruption, or another power originating from the abyss that hoyo is cooking at their HQ. As for how abyssal beings are naturally born I’m gonna take a wild guess and say it could be similar to how elemental life forms are created in Teyvat like maybe dragons? Considering the recent theories about the people of the nation of sinners are vishap-people and the fact that it was a sovereign who brought the “powers of darkness” into the world I think it’s possible that abyssal entities and dragons might be more closely related then we think and if the void(dark)element is some kind of primal element alongside the Omni(light) element then why wouldn’t beings of these natures share some similarities also a few kingdom hearts quotes along with my own personal thoughts might help explain this
    “You spend so much time chasing the shadows you forgot about the light that cast them”
    “The truth is what you see with your own eyes not what you hear”
    “Light and darkness doesn’t always mean good and evil”
    “Nothing is either good or bad but thinking that makes it so”
    At this point all I have to say is if you know you know but feel free to let me know your opinion.

  • @joshuabelcher8974
    @joshuabelcher8974 Год назад +8

    hey man just watched this vid, very interesting thoery, but also it was a great video in terms of how you presented your theory and the video editing was well done. Please keep posting new videos I look forward to it 👍👍

    • @theunlikelygenshingamer
      @theunlikelygenshingamer  Год назад +1

      Wow! The feedback means so much, I'm so glad the work paid off and you enjoyed. My latest video is in production as we speak so stayed tuned for that. Thanks again for watching, commenting and subscribing 😁😁

  • @laur4a768
    @laur4a768 Год назад +6

    I like this theory , and you should have way more subs !

  • @mikoji123
    @mikoji123 10 месяцев назад +7

    for the first one minute, i saw ur format presntation of theory and i hit subscribe. Defenitely follow ur upcoming theory vids. Other theory crafters just speaking and putting random genshin vids that doesnt even match on what its saying. Its like a podcast.
    Anyhow, I am one of ur subs now. Please keep this format coz it makes me interested to watch. Much more understandable to me.

    • @theunlikelygenshingamer
      @theunlikelygenshingamer  10 месяцев назад +3

      You don't know how much I appreciate you saying this. Making videos this way takes far longer because I have to remember where each of the little tidbit I want to visually reference occurred and I've considered just switching format because of this but knowing that folks notice and appreciate the extra work makes it worthwhile.
      Thanks so much for subbing and letting me know how I'm doing.

  • @Vesperstar.
    @Vesperstar. Год назад +2

    Very nice analisys and you do such a good job to make it understandable. Will be following for more :).

    • @theunlikelygenshingamer
      @theunlikelygenshingamer  Год назад +3

      Thank you! I'm delighted you enjoyed it You've motivated me to get cracking on my next video. Thanks for watching and subscribing, I really appreciate it!

    • @Vesperstar.
      @Vesperstar. Год назад +1

      @@theunlikelygenshingamer Looking forward to it 🤩

  • @auauvirus
    @auauvirus Год назад +6

    That was very interesting, thank you!

  • @WastedTalent83
    @WastedTalent83 Год назад +10

    i would also like to add, that probably the abyss, was summoned by kaenriha to fight the gods, reason why the gods destroyed it and casted a curse upon them to punish them.
    while the abyss being an outside force wasn't affected at all, instead they sided with the traveler.

    • @theunlikelygenshingamer
      @theunlikelygenshingamer  Год назад +2

      Perhaps your right, you have to wonder why would the khaenriahns be messing around with such a strange volatile force to begin with unless it was to reach new heights and the Abyss really does seem to be able to rival the archons in power so its possible they can avoid their curse.
      Thanks for watching and leaving these thought provoking comments. :)

    • @WastedTalent83
      @WastedTalent83 Год назад +1

      @@theunlikelygenshingamer sadly our is just speculation, im kinda sure between all players and youtubers speculation, they could get an even better story ahaha, anyway.. it could have just been done to get total freedom from the gods. but they didn't take it very well, specially because they knew the abyss is gonna corrode the world.
      But yea, we will only know in the next 4-5 years if we keep like this, the release of new cities is MUCH, MUCH faster than the story advancement.
      I'm afraid that the story will not show much in he end if they keep going down this road, caribert event patch was laughable, basically nothing hapopen if not some "backgroundstory" , that may look important but at lvl of gameplay it was short, with just the traveler involved, kaeya and deinsleif being just used to hype people and not in the story at all.
      Also one ting they seems to have completely messed up is.. that visiting the archon is now totally useless, because the brother/sister know that it wasn't an archon getting their power, and that it was something about celestia. There is really no point as the story is now, to keep meeting archons

  • @justasunflower
    @justasunflower Год назад +2

    Amazing video!!!

  • @valentinacruz8790
    @valentinacruz8790 Год назад +7

    Does this mean someone with Eleazar would have eventually turned into a hilichurl?

    • @theunlikelygenshingamer
      @theunlikelygenshingamer  Год назад +5

      At first I thought so too, but it's been shown that those with the Eleazar sickness just eventually died. I think the Hilichurl Phenomenon started out looking like Eleazar and then got so much worse.
      Makes me feel even more sorry for them.
      Anyway thanks for watching and commenting, I really appreciate it especially comments like yours that gives an opportunity for more discussion. 😁

  • @hiimbobbyo631
    @hiimbobbyo631 Год назад +8

    But what about the heralds or lector’s that we’re able to take on human forms? If they’re not people from khanriah, what are they?

    • @theunlikelygenshingamer
      @theunlikelygenshingamer  Год назад +11

      Although it's very suspicious that Enjou could change shape, I'm inclined to think that it was nothing but a deceptive illusion he was using. If they were truly cursed humans how would they be able to undo it at will?
      I would like to know how he did that and I've also found it rather creepy that his title after that is just "The Thing Calling Itself Enjou"

    • @geovanagama1
      @geovanagama1 Год назад +1

      Maybe someone from the primordial civilization that betrayed the primordial one?

    • @kotarouinugami1745
      @kotarouinugami1745 6 месяцев назад

      Well, as of version 4.3, we can confirm that Jacob Ingold was a human (Fonteinian), who got transformed into "Neohuman", with the power to shapeshift between human and abyss lector at will.
      It it likely that abyss lector form is similar to "Foul Legacy" transformation that Childe can do. Something useful in battle, but not necessarily comfortable or convenient for intellectual work.

  • @rudy2538
    @rudy2538 10 месяцев назад +5

    The new fontaine world quests seem to align with this

    • @theunlikelygenshingamer
      @theunlikelygenshingamer  10 месяцев назад +1

      I have been playing through them and it there are so many interesting cross references to past lore. Its been a lot of fun.

  • @ArtesiusGaming
    @ArtesiusGaming Год назад +5

    This theory is so fun to go into! I will say after watching this I decided to go listen to the Herald and Lector voice lines in battle.
    Just as a different theory sparked by yours; I would say that the lectors and heralds are actually Khaenri’ahns that have willingly accepted the abyss, more so the Sinner as their god.
    Unlike the hilichurls, who seem to have become “bewildered” and aimless in life. The Lectors and Heralds talk about their allegiance to the abyss.
    I theorize: that as the cursed ones accept their fate they ascend to a different rank depending on the devotion to the sinner. The heralds being the warriors that execute the Sinner’s will. They say things like “bow before the abyss” “all life will perish” and more interestingly “abyss, grant me new life”. That could point to the cursed choosing to bow to the abyss/sinner to gain new life and be freed from the side effects of the curse.
    The Lectors take on the religious leader aspect for the abyss. The Electro one talking about Truth. The lector also speaks about hope and joy which points to thinking that their goal will bring forth a better new world. They obviously follow and believe the abyss, which in my mind means in turn, that they believe the sinner. Makes sense they would believe the sinner if they once were cursed with a painful affliction that the sinner seems to be able to quell.
    The Pyro lector speaks of redemption, as well as a new world that comes from the ashes.
    Lastly we know in the presence of the sinner hilichurls and knights seem to be at peace and even bow to it. So I’d assume the sinner is offering salvation in exchange for allegiance.
    All these are just my speculation, some more anchored than others but thought I’d share! Your video was super cool!
    Random add-on: in 3.6 we can learn more from the “iniquitous baptist” an even higher level in the abyss. And lastly the “rogue hilichurls”; which seem like they’ve learned to evolve outside of the abyss order. Their masks are a little reminiscent of those of the heralds and lectors but don’t have any abyssal designs. Obviously excited!😂

    • @theunlikelygenshingamer
      @theunlikelygenshingamer  Год назад +1

      This is really thought provoking! You make some excellent points about the lector and heralds different lines!
      I too wonder what we'll learn in that new world quest, Nahida's chapter two and the Baptist. Looks exciting 😁
      Thanks for taking the time watch and leave this cool comment I'm glad you enjoyed😊

  • @sh1tgun2
    @sh1tgun2 Год назад +5

    So the abyss heralds and lectors aren't people of khaenre'ah but creatures created from the abyss itself?

    • @theunlikelygenshingamer
      @theunlikelygenshingamer  Год назад +4

      That's what I'm thinking. They seem to much to portray creature who see them selves to be superior to mortal humans. And they are diehard supporters and protectors of the Abyss itself.
      I can't wait to see what the next update brings us
      Thanks for watching and commenting!

    • @sh1tgun2
      @sh1tgun2 Год назад

      @@theunlikelygenshingamer You're welcome, also that could be it because the abyss already existed from the very beginning, light realm(former dragon realm now human realm) and dark realm the abyss

  • @jonathanzhao8344
    @jonathanzhao8344 Год назад +7

    I think the sibling was brainwashed by forbidden knowledge (knowledge of the abyss) and the abyss knew she had faced a god, so they made her princess.

    • @theunlikelygenshingamer
      @theunlikelygenshingamer  Год назад +1

      That would be interesting because the travelers are known to be resistant to forbidden knowledge unless something happened when they spoke to the Sinner.
      Anyway thanks for your thoughts and for watching 😁

    • @jonathanzhao8344
      @jonathanzhao8344 Год назад +1

      I finally understand. The Abyss tampered with the sibling’s memories and deceived the sibling into thinking he/she was the prince/princess of the abyss.
      m.ruclips.net/video/7whoWMlup0Y/видео.html

  • @Say-Mira3
    @Say-Mira3 Год назад +6

    I think Lumine is corrupted by the abyss crystal.

    • @theunlikelygenshingamer
      @theunlikelygenshingamer  Год назад +4

      It's really starting to seem like that isn't it. That talking crystal is pretty menacing if you ask me, so I wouldn't be surprised if he were behind a lot of things.
      Thanks watching and taking the time comment, I really appreciate it 😁

    • @Say-Mira3
      @Say-Mira3 Год назад

      @@theunlikelygenshingamer great video ☺️

  • @hanbaebummie3215
    @hanbaebummie3215 Год назад +7

    0:03 I just want to say what the hell is he supposed to do? She’s acting like he could stop what happened.
    0:25 actually the monsters are the people of kh’anreiah…

  • @jakeryker546
    @jakeryker546 Год назад +3

    What if they are affected, but they just walk it off? 😛

    • @kotarouinugami1745
      @kotarouinugami1745 6 месяцев назад

      The Abyss Mages, it seems, can resist the effects of their curse by bearing twigs from Irminsul. Even if they lose their own memories to the curse, they can draw on the twig's powers to re-acquire them from Irminsul.

  • @gphotogrphy
    @gphotogrphy Год назад +2

    Interesting 🤔

  • @nikhilhumane5540
    @nikhilhumane5540 Год назад +12

    i think the gods cursed them with immortality in hopes to save them from the death and destruction, the abyss was about to bring. But the gods misjudged the capabilities and capacity of the humans. The power bestowed upon humans as a blessing to save themselves became the curse. The weak humans were overloaded with power which was beyond their capability to handle. The power goes berserk manifesting as a disease which the humans called curse.
    The power was bestowed equally upon the humans. The pure blooded khanrians were somewhat better equipped to handle such power. But the mixed bloods and rest of the population couldn't handle the power and suffered dire complications.
    Gold or rhinedottir might had been tinkering with alchemy trying to modify the body; to create a body better apt at accepting and handling the power. But the experiments failed or hijacked by abyss creating body to harboring abyss power rather than the divine power creating the monsters of abyss.
    The abyss order just might be an organization of such monsters possessing the modified bodies of the humans which are empty husks harboring the will and mind of the abyss.
    I think so because the primodial one foght the 7 soverign dragon for the humans and created the 4 shining phanes. I taraformed the world suited for harboring the humans ensuring future prosperity. Its hard to believe that someone so nice turned, evil on his people for whom he fought so hard. Or their might be a reason, a trigger factors for the Primodial one to turn against humans.

    • @theunlikelygenshingamer
      @theunlikelygenshingamer  Год назад +3

      This is a really interesting theory it reminds me of some of the stuff that has been theorized about stigmata in Honkai. Although i dont think thats the case it has really got me thinking. Still acording Enjou the abyss is poisonous to all elemental beings and there is some stuff in Nahida's new story quest that contradicts this but all the same really like this idea. Thanks for watching and for the food for thought.

    • @nikhilhumane5540
      @nikhilhumane5540 Год назад +2

      @@theunlikelygenshingamer thx for reading and replying back
      ❤❤

  • @brennanwn
    @brennanwn Год назад +1

    10:23 😮

  • @poluser
    @poluser Год назад +3

    Interesting never the less but doesn't feel right

  • @hazaubel6532
    @hazaubel6532 Год назад +7

    Half way through the video and I'm already digging this theory lol i really like the way you presented it too definitely subscribing 🤝 keep up with with the amazing work