The Holy Blade of the Descender (Genshin Impact 4.2 Lore, Theory, and Speculation)

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  • @jeremiahsmith916
    @jeremiahsmith916 10 месяцев назад +94

    Liking Kaeya since his first appearance just ages like fine wine every single patch.

    • @roozeveltfox
      @roozeveltfox  10 месяцев назад +23

      kaeya enjoyers constantly winning

    • @dirisiri1267
      @dirisiri1267 4 месяца назад

      Is that a pun?😂😂😂

    • @letsrain6933
      @letsrain6933 3 месяца назад

      Came for his angsty sibling past, but stayed for the kaeya impact

  • @sheevismycity4789
    @sheevismycity4789 10 месяцев назад +309

    Still so under rated, amazing as always.
    Also, I love how every lore channel has their own obsession. Here it's "everything is connected to Kaya", Ashikai Is "everything is connected to deshret", and other people are "everything is honkai, or everything is paimon, or everything is moon sisters" lol

    • @xxvskrunkle
      @xxvskrunkle 10 месяцев назад +5

      My kind of channel ❤

    • @MariLaTaupe
      @MariLaTaupe 10 месяцев назад +9

      at this point we just need to proove that kaeya is linked to deshret ^^ i would say that is sexy grandpa is deshret XD

    • @hotshootful
      @hotshootful 8 месяцев назад

      @@MariLaTaupe to do that we'd have to link keaya to Candance as she is a descendant of deshret which would be interesting

    • @Necrochaosium
      @Necrochaosium 8 месяцев назад +1

      If I had a channel my thing would be "all connected to the sinner" thankfully for the sanity of other people I dont have a channel :)

    • @NoName-kg4ve
      @NoName-kg4ve 7 месяцев назад

      I have seen channels that say " everything is connected to dainslief " lol

  • @LLawlietJeNemLenEtRin
    @LLawlietJeNemLenEtRin 10 месяцев назад +114

    With the parallels drawn between Kaeya's quest and this, with Lisa's quest giving us Pale Princess and the Six Pygmies and what happened in the newest AQ.. The potential connections between content from 3 years ago and now are being more and more serious.

    • @vernicimo
      @vernicimo 10 месяцев назад +18

      Yes the starter team,
      Kaeya: descend from khaenri'ah and has relations with Abyss order
      Lisa: Possible member of the hexenzirkel
      Amber: 🐰

    • @twit3537
      @twit3537 10 месяцев назад +14

      Actually the Pale Princess and the Six Pygmies is very relevant with this whole thing. I read the future books that were leaked and it pretty much explains who the third descender is, why the gnoses are cursed, the motive for the Cryo Archon to get the Gnosis back (imo to revive the 3rd descender by gathering his 'body', hence why the fatui didn't seem too upset that the dragon authority was given to Neuvilette once again) and why mondstat is potentially the end game (looping back to the beginning once again).

    • @ayanbarnwal2905
      @ayanbarnwal2905 10 месяцев назад +4

      I believe Lisa explicitly states that she's neither part of the hexenzirkel nor does she want to be in her "About Mona" voice line.

  • @harmonialarts
    @harmonialarts 10 месяцев назад +34

    *has a section about the traveler
    *proceeds to make it about Kaeya

  • @lillano6524
    @lillano6524 10 месяцев назад +9

    Let's not forget that Kaeya literally broke the 4th wall in Diluc's quest, saying that it was his favorite story so far

  • @anime-lk8kq
    @anime-lk8kq 9 месяцев назад +6

    as soon as you got to the kaeya stuff my neurons fuckin ACTIVATED

    • @roozeveltfox
      @roozeveltfox  9 месяцев назад +1

      genshin does anything -> monkey neuron meme in my brain as i make it about kaeya

  • @yowana9423
    @yowana9423 10 месяцев назад +10

    all roads lead to kaeya

  • @Boorosan
    @Boorosan 10 месяцев назад +39

    I really want traveler to use this sword in cutscenes from now on

    • @thejamesonthestreet
      @thejamesonthestreet 9 месяцев назад

      Yeah, but I doubt it since it comes from an optional World Quest

    • @TheJH1015
      @TheJH1015 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@thejamesonthestreetinb4 at the end of the story, you can't progress *unless* you finish this world quest and obtain the Holy Blade xD

  • @slock5732
    @slock5732 10 месяцев назад +28

    He definitely says a lot of stuff that lines up, and he's clearly involved, but I've always gotten the impression that the core of this knowledge is from dormant stuff locked away in him. In other words, I don't think he's playing as 'active' of a role as you convey at the end. Whatever he 'knows', almost doesn't feel fully accessible by him. Which would make a lot of sense, seeing as we've had a quest relate to characters who lock knowledge away from themselves (Scarra) - and more recently, characters playing a role with a hidden agenda unknown to them (Furina). Maybe I'm just latching onto the vibes of previous story beats, but Kaeya fits the bill pretty well for both. If he does appear in the next interlude, then I would feel even more confident in this.
    On a side note, I like the theory that the patch before 4.0 was attempting to convey the core components of the act to come. Not only did our time in Botteland convey Focalors very well, but the characters who tag along (and got outfits) COULD very well also be chosen to convey similar story significance. Klee's connection to Hexenzirkel and dressing up as a witch could relate to the major witch shenanigans finally showing up in the main quest. And Kaeya tagging along to play act as well feels like it has similar room to foreshadow his involvement. Of course, if Kaeya isn't mentioned in the next interlude, then a lot of this goes out the window. But when isn't he relevant?!

    • @roozeveltfox
      @roozeveltfox  10 месяцев назад +12

      re: how much Kaeya knows. I actually had a section on that drawing a comparison to Futuna in that he may also be in the dark about a lot of things. Or maybe a lil like Kafka from HSR, how Elio tells her just what she needs to know? Anyway yeah if we don’t get more Kaeya appearances in the future I’ll CRYYYY

  • @someguywhoenjoymusic1961
    @someguywhoenjoymusic1961 10 месяцев назад +41

    Traveler could be both 'will' and 'sword' that will surpass tevyat. Miko states that Traveler ambition is not finding his own sister rather something else.. and upon our journey we slowly finding our own meaning about our journey in tevyat and it's secret hidden where the god does not gaze. Oh also when we fighting Ei.. ( only strongest *WILL* could surpass eternity's )
    And Rene calculation is fail because the Arrival of fourth descender 'us' because we will change the outcome of fate on tevyat with our 'will' as journey begins..
    Oh and quick lore about skirk master
    Surtalogi names in English is ( twilight sword ) do you who has that title's???
    Yup you're correct
    Dainsleif

    • @ajergely6230
      @ajergely6230 10 месяцев назад +6

      Wait, is Surtalogi called twilight sword in game ? Or is that from one of the Eddas ?

    • @someguywhoenjoymusic1961
      @someguywhoenjoymusic1961 10 месяцев назад

      @@ajergely6230 you could go do research on Google's surtalogi in English name is twilight sword

    • @BlueDaisy33
      @BlueDaisy33 10 месяцев назад +3

      ⁠@@ajergely6230it was called Twilight Sword before it became Surtalogi

    • @vanessachowjiaying4423
      @vanessachowjiaying4423 10 месяцев назад +6

      Considering Genshin's initial title is Honkai Impact 4, it's fitting for the traveller, who's the 4th descender to bring change to the world. Like how it's parent story Honkai, in which the 3rd Honkai eruption brought Kiana, Mei and Bronya together, the 3rd descender brought negative change through the gnosis system.

    • @emberthecatgirl8796
      @emberthecatgirl8796 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@vanessachowjiaying4423Honkai also had a blonde outworlder collect 7 gems to cut a world.

  • @eboshisdescendant8697
    @eboshisdescendant8697 10 месяцев назад +11

    I think it would be cool if the dull blade starts glowing and changed its form to Travelers' original sword in the final battle or something, just like a normal wooden sword turned into the Holy Blade. Like, the original sword could be the manifested form of Traveler's willpower. What if their Sibling already reclaimed the original sword because they have completed their journey and turned their experiences into the sword?

  • @rbpoke3604
    @rbpoke3604 9 месяцев назад +4

    converging everyone's consciousness into one reminds me off honkai impact 3rd's project stigma for humanity to survive the final herscher before the next samsara cycle, like genshins samsara cycles

  • @Indian_gae_boii
    @Indian_gae_boii 10 месяцев назад +37

    Im so so glad you made the video, so much of the quest lines and notes we find talk in metaphors and double meanings that it got confusing to me, im also highly highly dissapointed that the tower of ipsissmus dissapears underwater forever because it was such an iconic part of fonTaine scenery,

    • @epiphany__
      @epiphany__ 10 месяцев назад +3

      trueeee, i dont mind the huge lore bomb and metaphors in the quest lines because i want to watch videos like these anyways, but i really want to bring back the tower of ipsissmus, such an iconic landmark 😥

  • @codymitchell-ec8sc
    @codymitchell-ec8sc 10 месяцев назад +3

    Clarity I get after I finish the videos. keep up the amazing content

  • @ambisunnyambi
    @ambisunnyambi 5 месяцев назад +2

    i cant believe it took me, a kaeya main, forever to find your channel

  • @tine1396
    @tine1396 10 месяцев назад +8

    I'm always hyped to see your new Kaeya theory when i see a new video from you!
    I am glad to see i am not the only one having hundreds of thoughts about him. 😅
    Kaeya better be in the next Dainsleif quest !

  • @johnb1145
    @johnb1145 10 месяцев назад +6

    So what you're also saying is...eventually the dull blade will become the blade the traveler originally used? That would explain why hoyo's so insistent on continuing for him to use the dull blade!

    • @amouramarie
      @amouramarie 10 месяцев назад +1

      It would make total sense, since there's pretty much nothing in the game - even basic mechanics - that aren't lore-related. IT would be pretty weird if the Traveller's sword is totally meaningless.

  • @prenimystic
    @prenimystic 10 месяцев назад +2

    This is just - WOW - your braincell is the holy blade itself - I could have never thought about this

  • @GamersInHellOnYt
    @GamersInHellOnYt 21 день назад

    12:50, the idea that the traveler was always going to arrive in mondstadt was foretold thus why we arrive in "Star fell valley" across from "Starsnatch" Cliff. Traverler is a star. If its possible to steal or "Snatch" A star from the sky we know the exact location the other person was standing when traveler fell.

  • @Mahiczna
    @Mahiczna 5 месяцев назад +1

    I found your channel through Ashikai and oh boy you have amazing theories. I really enjoy your videos and I am amazed by how much details you're finding. I love theorizing as well but I'm just blind and don't notice a lot of things xD Keep up the great work!!

  • @DoeboyFreshNESS
    @DoeboyFreshNESS 10 месяцев назад +9

    Found your channel not too long ago. Im big into genshin lore and i am lovingggg your videos!!! Amazing job on all of them!!!!

  • @cainiaowu
    @cainiaowu 10 месяцев назад +3

    In Norse mythology, Lævateinn is a weapon crafted by Loki mentioned in the Poetic Edda poem Fjölsvinnsmál. The name Lævateinn does not appear in the original manuscript reading, but is an emendation from Hævateinn made by Sophus Bugge and others.
    The weapon is needed to slay the rooster Viðofnir atop the Mímameiðr tree in order for the seeker to achieve his quest, or so replies the wise porter Fjölsviðr, the titular character of the poem.
    Lævateinn has variously been asserted to be a dart (or some projectile weapon), or a sword, or a wand, by different commentators and translators. It is glossed as literally meaning a "wand" causing damage by several sources, yet some of these same sources claim simultaneously that the name is a kenning for sword. Others prefer to regard it as a magic wand (seiðr staff).

    • @cainiaowu
      @cainiaowu 10 месяцев назад +1

      Lævateinn is the only weapon capable of defeating the cockerel Viðofnir, as explained by Fiölsvith "the very wise" porter in the poem Fjölsvinnsmál.[1][2][3] Lopt, the sword's maker, refers to Loki.

  • @GanjaCree
    @GanjaCree 10 месяцев назад +2

    Glad you made this video! Cleared some things that I didn’t understand about the quest also confirm my thoughts about the sword.

  • @inesmorssli6603
    @inesmorssli6603 Месяц назад +1

    Wow, its not my first time rewatching your videos but this one really aged well lol. Like you said, kaeya def know more then he lets on (i'm thinking of his voiceline about the sinners) and the part where you talked about kaeya knowing certain future events from a visionary reminds me of a certain sinner we met in the 4.7 update... anyways always a pleasure to listen to your theories, especially the more deranged ones 😂

  • @nthinparticular3345
    @nthinparticular3345 10 месяцев назад +2

    Great video, Deluluvelt (you asked us to comment that to show the commenter watched till the end?)
    I was in awe by the scene with Neuvillette and Furina goddess and the sword where your sentence perfectly lined up with the visuals...

  • @Jeskgames
    @Jeskgames 10 месяцев назад +3

    This was such an excellent theory!! Well done! I think you’re spot on about Kaeya

  • @uhohstinkyyy
    @uhohstinkyyy 10 месяцев назад +1

    i do love this theory so much, but i’ve always had another thought which relates back to the travelers instead which involves their swords. in the start up quest when you first name the traveler with their alias, they are carrying a unique sword that we no longer see after the cutscene is over for the traveler. the traveler tells paimon that their powers were taken with it & we can visually see how this is the case (the traveler no longer has their wings, their original element, nor do they have their sword). the only time we see the traveler’s signature sword is when we do the “we will be reunited” quest and meet the abyss twin. the abyss twin has their sword. they are able to use their original powers. yet the traveler cannot.
    i like the idea that kaeya has a role in all of this, but i can’t see it more than him just being suspicious of the traveler. this is mostly because he grew up directly alongside kaeya. he wasn’t cursed in the same way.
    but his fathers/grandfathers sword? i don’t think it’s the narzissessinkreuz sword. i think it’s the traveler’s sword, a sword with the same ability as the narzissessinkreuz sword. as we were told, it fell from celestia into the sea. well we know that the traveler was fighting up against the unknown god. i think that sword is originally the travelers lost sword. and the narzissessinkreuz may be able to become their new sword or be able to help them retrieve it. but that’s just my theory! ^^

  • @essendossev362
    @essendossev362 10 месяцев назад +6

    I've wondered if perhaps the gnosis are a part of our sibling that has been stripped away. Like how Focalors ... [spoilers]
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    split out her divinity, leaving behind Furina. Perhaps the sibling we have seen is just the human remains of what was once a divine descender.

    • @thienphucn1
      @thienphucn1 10 месяцев назад

      Unlikely because the sibling is not a Descender. The Gnosis comes from the Third Descender

    • @kotarouinugami1745
      @kotarouinugami1745 10 месяцев назад

      @@thienphucn1The sibling is definitely something strange. It is quite possible they actually are a descender, and when they reclaimed enough of their power, they could no longer be logged in Irminsul.

    • @thienphucn1
      @thienphucn1 10 месяцев назад

      @@kotarouinugami1745 Descenders are not just someone who's from another world. There is a lot more than 4 people who is said or implied to be from outside Teyvat, but only 4 of them can be considered "Descenders". The sibling is not one of them

    • @amouramarie
      @amouramarie 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@thienphucn1 I think the suggestion was that the sibling _was_ the Third Descender, but after having parts of them split away, no longer has the will/power necessary to be called one. I think that's a pretty good theory, since as twins, it would make sense for us to be equal in that regard. And if the splitting of their will was done in Khaenri'ah, it would make sense that Irminsul believes they suddenly appeared there, "born" in Teyvat. Hmm, I like this theory, I'm gonna keep it in mind!

  • @s2wuolf508
    @s2wuolf508 10 месяцев назад +1

    Following Ashikai's video, I believe that the reason Abyss sibling is not considered a descender is because they were summoned and arrived in Tevyat to carry the will of Khaenriah, while our traveller is very much carrying their own will to find(well convince at this point) their sibling to go with them, so our traveller still has a will that can match the entire world.

  • @YukiZero
    @YukiZero 7 месяцев назад +1

    TBH.... The holy blade could have been the free 5 star sword given to us... and its amazing that the free 5 star weapon we get is locked behind a really really good world quest.

  • @TheGeekyRedMage
    @TheGeekyRedMage 10 месяцев назад +1

    "Boy, hope this isn't foreshadowing something crazy I'm going to say later."
    LET DELULUVELT COOK!
    But man... this one questline basically brought about so many answers while creating so many questions regarding Genshin's story as a whole now. lmao There's so much I want to discussion, but I'm too busy with school to let them simmer atm.
    I'll just say that while all of your Kaeya theories may feel "crack" in nature, they just feel like you're on to something considering the man we are talking about. lol Can't wait to actually parse through this questline myself whenever I finally finish Sumeru.

  • @muralikarthik4361
    @muralikarthik4361 10 месяцев назад +1

    Nothing is ever a coincidence in this game.

  • @Executive14
    @Executive14 10 месяцев назад +1

    i like how i was here listening to you hammering the idea of the wills can be anything, and then i remembered the note that's in the ordo room that gives more info on what a descender is.
    And it says descenders aren't particularly ones that descended but ones that have wills can rival a planet or something like that
    bruh
    edit: oh i didn't know you go into this, i was like 4-5 minutes in

  • @Naruto4995
    @Naruto4995 10 месяцев назад +1

    Always loving the heat you put out here Rooze. That said, this actually inspired some thoughts of mine. Primarily how the idea of the 'Holy Blade' might've had it's most positive version of outcome in the Inazuman archon quest end point. (A culmination of powerful Reason safely united.) I want to dive into that.
    Primarily how by the example of the Traveler, Kazuha and inevitably the Visions of those fighting the Raiden Shogun made a miracle happen. I want to begin with the Traveler and how they were used as a 'catalyst' of burning a pathway for those very wills, something Yae Miko specifically points out towards 'They too have ambitions, which they long since entrusted to you.' Visions are a height of consummate human will and on top of that, the Traveler with only just a mere 100 of them managed to generate the scale of power to actively combat Raiden Ei. (Also shattering the effects of the Vision locking ability) These wills didn't find themselves subjugated, but aligned in a way where their powers actively resonated with each other.
    This is where I'd love to get Kazuha involved as well. Though his instance was momentarily brief in comparison, he managed to accomplish the same feat through the united front of his Vision and his best friend's in one being. It revealed how there's a very human potential where they can also be a 'holy blade' for many tales if resonance can be created. What this can imply? There's a lot tbh, mainly how there could be a thread of resemblance between Humanity and the Traveler that could be a pivotal missing link.
    It brings me back to a curious thought that Narziessenkreuz had about Visions in general, how amidst their unique research and cult-y sophistry they're described as 'errors', in a way that makes it sound like they can't be assimilated at all, thus lost. They never would've had a chance to know that such a possibility was possible, or even the means to tap such a spiritual height due to the path of physical evolutions made. (On time of having all that consciousness in a hot pot.) So that brings the up another question to me, should a Vision be considered the 'Holy Blade' of one's fate? Going by how it doesn't need to be a sword and the unique abilities the users channel from the might of their own desire, it left me contemplating.
    Also does this mean by chance that Yae Miko may have figured out what the Traveler is? Given how she considered the trade of a Gnosis vastly more worthwhile in the name of the Traveler's safety, and that other cutscene as well, they might've picked up on this.

    • @Apt23-v8u
      @Apt23-v8u 7 месяцев назад +1

      Now THIS is a epic theory and had a good amount of reason behind it

  • @crimsonmoon123
    @crimsonmoon123 10 месяцев назад +1

    Interesting... Here's what I've been thinking -
    Khaenriah summoned Traveler because they knew the "true nature of the world" by using "forbidden knowledge" from the abyss and wanted to change it with the help of traveler. Traveler, having a strong enough will gets classified as the 4th descender by abyss and irminsul.
    The 3rd descender was also summoned by khaenriah but they died somehow and now their remains are the gnosis as stated by skirk.
    Natlan's archon quest is named "Ode of Resurrection" because it is going to be the last nation whose gnosis is needed by fatui and Tsaritsa to "Resurrect" the 3rd descender.
    The end game can be the resurrected 3rd and 4th descender vs celestia.
    The sibling and traveler are twins and got summoned together by khaenriah but the sibling did not have enough "will" to be declared a descender and thus they chose to side with abyss order and play out their part in such a manner that it would lead traveler to change the world.
    But there are two major things which don't add up in my theory which is
    1.where or how did traveler get separated from sibling in the timeline?
    2.what is Paimon's identity and purpose?
    Feel free to correct me if you think I'm going delulu 😂

    • @roozeveltfox
      @roozeveltfox  10 месяцев назад +2

      I think all this is generally consistent with what we know. I think the only thing (which I admittedly did not mention) is that technically we only know 'the heavens responded to the summoning' (from Scaramouche) and khaenri'ah seemed to be watching the twins' orbit (from that one coop namecard). And it seems like they ended up with the sibling and not traveler for reasons unknown. I'm personally still super unsure why the sibling isn't a descender. Did they have a will and lose it, or did they never have it? Many questions to be added to your list there, all of which I wonder about lmao. (Also ty for sharing 😋)

    • @crimsonmoon123
      @crimsonmoon123 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@roozeveltfox we need a dainslief archon quest in fontaine asap 😩

    • @roozeveltfox
      @roozeveltfox  10 месяцев назад +1

      @@crimsonmoon123 YEAH WE DO!!!

  • @martas.9804
    @martas.9804 9 месяцев назад +1

    I'm actually pretty sure the Sinner has Kaeya's voice. Now, it could just be because Kaeya's VA was already doing his voice lines for Kaeya's quest and they asked him to voice the Sinner for that scene and it's just a placeholder, but.... It could also be because they are connected. Since, yeah, I main Kaeya and the Sinner's voice was *definitely* his.

    • @roozeveltfox
      @roozeveltfox  9 месяцев назад +2

      oh man so like, back during that time, I investigated this, although I don't think I really mentioned it in my 3.5 trailer analysis or Caribert video. Maybe in the 3.5 vid. I like went on a very.... hyperfixated deep-dive into the Sinner's voice, but I don't think I shared my specific findings/opinions on them, publicly at least. The main points:
      (1) in CN and JP (and i think KR?) it's a different voice actor, they do have to list them for CN and JP. And iirc, and they definitely sound different (Sinner v Kaeya I mean).
      (2) this was NOT the case for EN. They don't list VAs (although I think they retroactively go back to edit the VA list after 'reveals'). This may be TOTAL delusion on my part, but IMHO there's features with the Sinner's vocal patterns that come across as Kaeya's - so maybe Josey's work, with distortion. I cannot explain the insanity that went into comparing the "oh, dear creature" of the Sinner, and "oh, [something]" by Kaeya.
      tldr - I agree with you, EN sinner sounds v close to Kaeya (as a fellow Kaeya main, but also as someone who has edited a LOT of Sinner and Kaeya content for vids)
      If I am delulu: others also saw it, and therefore the delulu had good justification, making it not delulu for now at least!!! And I doubt they'd do placeholders, there are PLENTY of voices they have planned way in advance (e.g. Alice). And at this point I could EASILY spin plenty of Kaeya-Sinner connections based on lore 🤪

    • @martas.9804
      @martas.9804 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@roozeveltfox The fact that the voice actors are different in JP, CN and KR does make me wonder if it's relevant, but in English, I mean-- You are absolutely not delulu. That is Kaeya's VA, you can hear it not only in the voice (if you ignore the distortion), but also in tone and way of speaking (the "oh", like you said, but also the "why", "flower", "fate", and the "I am no god" sounds *exactly* like Kaeya, and the "I shall shed a tear at the end of time" is very much something he would say, too). So yeah, I really think Kaeya's VA voiced the Sinner, I just don't know if that is "on purpose" or not. Like you, I see a ton of connections that would make a *lot* of sense, but the fact that other languages did not do this makes me wonder if it's really relevant or not.

  • @silverhawkscape2677
    @silverhawkscape2677 10 месяцев назад +17

    Genshin Better Guve us 5 Star Kaeya.

    • @syarifairlangga4608
      @syarifairlangga4608 10 месяцев назад

      They can simply make new artifac or signature weapon.

    • @wodime7305
      @wodime7305 10 месяцев назад

      Kaeya is gonna be a new 5 star soon before or after Kha'enriah release

  • @megann1416
    @megann1416 10 месяцев назад +1

    i think the holy blade and the shattered halberd(s ??? multiple maybe???) are connected. i cant remember she shattered halberd lore, it's been a while since i saw a video on it but the holy blade reminded me of it

  • @ilucasz
    @ilucasz 10 месяцев назад

    This whole "Reason" plot reminds me of the Core of Reason story in Honkai Impact 3rd, where it was passed from Welt Joyce to Joaquin, that became Welt Yang and then passed to Bronya.

  • @Hannya7
    @Hannya7 4 месяца назад

    you did NOT just say "she liked to take heads"....i actually stopped eating and was like yo pause🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @kiaradoesart9682
    @kiaradoesart9682 10 месяцев назад +1

    Kaeya also inherited his eyepatch from sexy pirate grandpa 😉Symbolism of hidden sight (sight of what's hidden?) mayhaps?? Personally your tinfoil sections are my favourite hahaha

  • @elis_swan3271
    @elis_swan3271 10 месяцев назад +2

    First of all,Kaeya is worth every video
    Second of all, metaphor about Travaller being the Holy Blade is chef's kiss
    Third of all,important question to ya all: what arkhe do you prefer on the Holy Blade? For me it is Ousia,cause it looks so violet and prettyyy

  • @berrybread7215
    @berrybread7215 10 месяцев назад +1

    Kaeya’s silly little story quest strikes again. My delusions that he’ll get a Dan Heng style five star re-release gains steam.

  • @dennisl9176
    @dennisl9176 10 месяцев назад +1

    honestly your thoughts about kaeya arent even that crazy. after caribert i dont think anyone can deny that kaeya is connected to big things

  • @Gilgamesh_Servant
    @Gilgamesh_Servant 9 месяцев назад +3

    Deluluvelt
    Jokes aside, you cooked well

  • @stormauror2642
    @stormauror2642 10 месяцев назад +1

    i just want more lore for this update!! thanksss!!

  • @lexical450
    @lexical450 10 месяцев назад

    Kaeya is the 3.5 descender confirmed

  • @Vx1dWrld
    @Vx1dWrld 10 месяцев назад +1

    I can’t lie I think kaeya just happens to be around a lot plus he himself has stated he really doesn’t care for knowledge of his past or how things will turn out I think we can trust him on that

  • @_marienkind
    @_marienkind 10 месяцев назад

    1:41 KABBALAH REFERENCE

  • @HyruIia
    @HyruIia 10 месяцев назад

    Came for the holy blade..
    Found Kaeya!
    Stayed anyway.

  • @charlesaquiler1725
    @charlesaquiler1725 10 месяцев назад

    I ALREADY DID OBTAINED Narzissenkreuz Sword….as long that will be Wielded by a main character.
    (after lose a sword on intro prologue chapter)
    Traveller DID mentioned said "Dull blade and star silver swords are trash." Kinda intriguing if you asked me.
    And also, Kaeya was one of Khaenri’ah. No wonder, that harbinger of dawn did good to wield, this lore needs more crack alot of storylines….
    Now up next was Natlan, what will it be?

  • @raineisme
    @raineisme 8 месяцев назад +2

    Are we Paimon's Sword?

  • @gamerforever4837
    @gamerforever4837 9 месяцев назад +1

    This sounds more like the original Neon genesis evangelion

  • @metlspaz1
    @metlspaz1 10 месяцев назад +3

    have you done the follow up quests like: the pursuit after getting enigmatic page X? Im interested in what you think of it's series of quests.

    • @roozeveltfox
      @roozeveltfox  10 месяцев назад +1

      yes but i'm just spacing everything out because it's soooo much to process lol

  • @sohellkite1444
    @sohellkite1444 10 месяцев назад +1

    i have a honest question the holy blade we get in that quest that going to be the main signature weapon of the traveler in the future archon quest

  • @melvinmonjeau7325
    @melvinmonjeau7325 10 месяцев назад

    The Gnosis were created by the First and Second who came because the First couldn't sustain Teyvat after the battle. Which sprung the Archon war over the control of said Gnosis. Before then it was the 3 Moon Sisters.

  • @johnb1145
    @johnb1145 10 месяцев назад

    I knew it was about THAT sword.

  • @TitoCreepy
    @TitoCreepy 10 месяцев назад

    Kaeya is more than Irminsul.

  • @angelwearwolf1573
    @angelwearwolf1573 10 месяцев назад +1

    I haven't finished watching the video, but I'm probably gonna like it.
    But anyway, I'm making this comment because I like the weapon too

  • @raerdev
    @raerdev 10 месяцев назад

    What if pierro is kaeya's grandfather?

  • @felely
    @felely 10 месяцев назад +1

    not relevant at all but when paimon takes us to mondstat first she says ‘there’s a reason why’ what is that reason

    • @amouramarie
      @amouramarie 10 месяцев назад

      Because Mondstadt is full of bards and song, and she thinks they may have songs/lore knowledge about the sibling

    • @jeremiahsmith916
      @jeremiahsmith916 10 месяцев назад

      Tbh the first thought I had is very cursed. “Kaeya’s grandpa *found the sword in the sea* and went to [basically do Traveler’s adventures]” => IS KAEYA’S GRANDPA DISGUISING AS PAIMON? 💀

  • @AceAyasaki
    @AceAyasaki 10 месяцев назад

    Does this mean Aloy isn't the 5th descender?

    • @roozeveltfox
      @roozeveltfox  10 месяцев назад +2

      no - this would imply she doesn't have the requisite will so she's just a normal alien. having fun investiating ruin guard technology. living her best life (esp since she's an odd-on-out being a game crossover)

  • @saltwater6773
    @saltwater6773 10 месяцев назад

    What quest is this ??

  • @rustysword6351
    @rustysword6351 10 месяцев назад

    Whats this quest name

  • @Shado6588
    @Shado6588 10 месяцев назад

    💪

  • @thesmilyguyguy9799
    @thesmilyguyguy9799 10 месяцев назад

    :D

  • @ZRo69
    @ZRo69 10 месяцев назад

    I am 100% sure that kaeya isn't all what you crack him up to be.
    Not just that but I HOPE he isn't really that important, really don't like the guy.

  • @user-xk3om2zh2q
    @user-xk3om2zh2q 10 месяцев назад

    Kaeya this Kaeya that. Too much Kaeya now! Kaeya is too much overrated now at this point!

  • @plingploong
    @plingploong 10 месяцев назад +329

    In the end it's always about Kaeya 😊. The lore drops have been crazy since Sumeru! Can't wait to see what else we find out about descenders and dragons in Natlan and beyond.

    • @di8085
      @di8085 10 месяцев назад +15

      i think every characters from Genshin Manga is gonna be so important for future plot, and the reason why Venti story quest part 2 until now isn't even out

    • @Zombina638
      @Zombina638 10 месяцев назад +2

      No it’s not😊

    • @PopcornSimp
      @PopcornSimp 10 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@Zombina638You sound so salty lol

    • @Zombina638
      @Zombina638 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@PopcornSimp you sound so idiotic ur already losing the battle by being offended 💀

    • @saladwithasideof
      @saladwithasideof 8 месяцев назад

      @@di8085mondstadt has way many more secrets than it’s leading onto be as a “starting region”

  • @Dogbert24
    @Dogbert24 10 месяцев назад +110

    I didn't realize the weapon description of the Narzissenkreuz sword was just a continuation of the dull blade. I think it would be super cool if we continue to refine this sword in future regions somehow, with it eventually turning into the sword we had in the opening cutscene. That would be a nice way to use the extra oculus you get in each region actually, considering you would necessarily have to do pretty much all the major world quests as a prerequisite to have access to all of them in the first place.

    • @otakulibrarygirl
      @otakulibrarygirl 10 месяцев назад +9

      Am I the only one that thought the Holy Blade was the Traveler’s original sword when it was first revealed in this quest? Now I’m starting to think the original sword was a physical manifestation of Traveler’s will….

    • @rdpsysium7340
      @rdpsysium7340 6 месяцев назад +1

      I LOVE this idea. I've been thinking the extra oculi are just nice mementos or hoyo's way of cutting players some slack, but now that I think about it, if players are going out of their way to collect all the oculi anyway, what's one more? And it would be so cool to utilize them like how you suggested. Fingers crossed it's that or something equivalently interesting!

  • @BlueDaisy33
    @BlueDaisy33 10 месяцев назад +105

    All lore eventually leads to Kaeya, Childe, Venti or Deshret as they should
    Great video! It makes a ton of sense and gives us a reason why our Twin is different

  • @vermillionorange
    @vermillionorange 10 месяцев назад +57

    So basically traveler is the "shattered halberd" and is now in the middle of reclaiming their pieces???
    Ahhh!!!! I'm gonna go watch again your video about that. Somehow, somewhere, some of your previous speculations make sense!!!
    Btw, thank you very much for this. I live for your videos. Keep it going! Deluluvelt ftw 🥰
    ETA: and yes, it always goes back to our man Kaeya lmao

    • @roozeveltfox
      @roozeveltfox  10 месяцев назад +16

      ah… haha yeah… I’m going to have to heavily update my LotSH halberd thoughts. The good news is that a lot of it makes a LOT of sense, and it’s actually way cooler than I imagined! The bad news is that there’s one particular thing that doesn’t make sense to me at all. Keep an eye out for it in the next few weeks 🤪

  • @strgz5329
    @strgz5329 10 месяцев назад +59

    also now that the traveler is being compared to a blade, or specifically a weapon, the story about the sentient halberds takes on new meaning

  • @SuperQuaqua1
    @SuperQuaqua1 8 месяцев назад +10

    The whole Holy blade and descender's will thing made me think back to our final fight against Ei.
    Ei: "You're looking for a chance to shake my "will"... aren't you?"
    Traveler: " I'm not here to debate your Ideals. I'm here to demolish them."
    and then traveler using the will of the vision bearers and even Teppei to defeat her.

  • @georgebeard2337
    @georgebeard2337 10 месяцев назад +48

    now that the archon quest is complete you guys know all too well who's going to show up next for another humongous lore bomb. Our friendly masked wearing Khaenri'ahn friend of course!

  • @spark9_
    @spark9_ 10 месяцев назад +43

    I dont think your theory about Kaeya being in Mondstadt for prophetic reasons is too far off the trail. Some things do add up.

  • @Dogbert24
    @Dogbert24 10 месяцев назад +26

    It might be that the 'treasured sword' of Kaeya's grandfather (founder of abyss order) is the abyss sibling and not the traveler, but then it wouldn't make sense that they aren't considered a descender. Nahida did say however that the Irminsul records on our sibling become 'fuzzy' and she doesn't know what happened at the end of their journey, and Kaeya mentions his grandfather later hid his treasured sword away to keep greedy pirates from finding it.

  • @emberthecatgirl8796
    @emberthecatgirl8796 10 месяцев назад +65

    If I had a penny for every time that Hoyoverse had a blonde from beyond a world collect 7 gems to complete a sword that can cut the world itself, I’d have two pennies. It’s not much, but it’s wierd that it happened twice.

    • @beashemmad.sayson545
      @beashemmad.sayson545 10 месяцев назад

      Who’s the first?

    • @Whole-U
      @Whole-U 10 месяцев назад

      First the Duck, now the Traveller.

    • @emberthecatgirl8796
      @emberthecatgirl8796 10 месяцев назад +7

      @@beashemmad.sayson545 Bianka Ataegina, also called “Durandal” after the sword she restored.

    • @Rexhunterj
      @Rexhunterj 10 месяцев назад

      Bianka from Honkai Impact 3rd? (She's actually Kiana Kaslana that one)

  • @userAsiral
    @userAsiral 10 месяцев назад +20

    Surtalogi, Skirk's master is literally named after a sword. A sword that brings Ragnarok

    • @jeremiahsmith916
      @jeremiahsmith916 10 месяцев назад +4

      This reminded me of Childe’s peculiar wording, somewhere in his stories or voicelines it says he’s not opposed to be seen as a weapon rather than a person, and in fact considers this a praise. I don’t think Childe himself is connected to the actual personified holy weapons, but he might have heard the discourse from Skirk and adopted it his way.

    • @userAsiral
      @userAsiral 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@jeremiahsmith916 Dainsleif is also named after a sword...
      Not to mention his title "The Twilight Sword"

  • @YuBaka69
    @YuBaka69 10 месяцев назад +53

    I know this is mostly a video about Kaeya, but getting back on the Narzissenkreuz track, after the finale, the idea of making a fairytale out of all this is starting to sound all the more fitting))

    • @kotarouinugami1745
      @kotarouinugami1745 10 месяцев назад +2

      Gotta make fairytales out of everything significant, to prevent the secrets uncovered from being irminsuled.

    • @TheJH1015
      @TheJH1015 9 месяцев назад +1

      Nahida and Andersdottir (I think? iirc she was the fairy tale writer from the Hexenzirkel right?) approve

  • @Fran_5
    @Fran_5 9 месяцев назад +5

    Kinda funny how Kaeya went from having no signature weapon into having 2.
    The new Wolf-fang absolutely matches Kaeya in gameplay and aethetic as well as giving him a mirror of sorts to Dilluc and the Wolf's Gravestone.

  • @dinozero2
    @dinozero2 8 месяцев назад +7

    I love how they give subtle foreshadowing in Narzissenkreuz Ordo quest with Paimon eating Chicken-Mushroom Skewer. Which is Kaeya specialty dish.

  • @hania264
    @hania264 10 месяцев назад +14

    I was super excited for the narssizenkruz finale especially with tidbits of it being included in the 4.2 trailer and it didn't disappoint, Rene is an example of how one could actually have all the right questions and unravel so much but still not yield the most optimal result. Even thou he missed one variant he technically did foretell the arrival of the all devouring Narwhal and the bit about " drinking the amniotic fluids of the world dry" on one hand and on the other succeeded in maintaining his own will and individuality unlike the rest of fontainians who dissolved and were "no more". It's interesting different approches to the prophecy, either riding the tide of the the apocalypse and retaining "wills" version of survival versus what focalors did.
    I wish caterpillar let Rene explain his origin thou TTTT ... SIGH AND OF COURSE ALL LORE LINKS TO KAEYA
    Hopefully we learn more about the descenders next time we meet up with dain.

  • @KrackenSyndrome
    @KrackenSyndrome 10 месяцев назад +5

    Listening to the pirate grandpapa part made me instantly connect the Pierro is Kaeya's grandfather theory (via ashikai) then go: oooh, so Pierro trying to make abyss twin into a holy blade, but maybe didn't succeed, but the aby twin's journey mirrors ouw own in a samasara. AND THEN i just had the thought that the holy blade has a light AND a dark side. So then aby twin is the ousia half, and now traveler is currently forging the pnuma half and then they'll combine like DBZ fusion style?!
    But, Pierro is likely ALLOWING Traveler to roam free is for this reason and going through GREAT PAINS to not get in traveler's way, but be on amiable terms with traveler in the end as a BACKUP plan in case the gnosis collector's items dont pan out... Or maybe they need both plans in concert? Cause the Harth sibs make it blindingly obvious, and uncomfortably clear that they are trying to be on our good side. And dottore, who was aware of our attachment to nahida, didnt attack her like signora did to venti, but instead negotiated with her so we dont hunt him down to the ends of the earth..... Hmm, i have thought, clearly.

  • @elisabethkiseleva6794
    @elisabethkiseleva6794 10 месяцев назад +7

    This particular idea that descenders are heavenly weapons makes it straight to the point! I suppose, the whole Narzissenkreuz quest line was created to reveal the essence of our identity. And when the traveller has the strongest will he begins to glow like the sword. Amazing.
    I believe now all the chess figures are on the board. Soooo impatient to see what comes next.

  • @sassyquatch1185
    @sassyquatch1185 10 месяцев назад +13

    You have no idea how much I've been waiting for this video! Love your content, you're personally one of my favorite Genshin lore channels out there.

  • @TheBritishCigarette
    @TheBritishCigarette 10 месяцев назад +2

    IS KAEYA A VISIONARY?? IS THAT WHY ONE OF HIS EYES IS COVERED???

  • @marisentaku2159
    @marisentaku2159 9 месяцев назад +4

    I'm here just to hear you talk about Kaeya lmao

  • @adityawidarma3803
    @adityawidarma3803 10 месяцев назад +3

    this is why Alice isn't a Descender despite can freely travel between worlds

  • @rodon265
    @rodon265 10 месяцев назад +2

    1:29 "this meant dissolving everyone, and condensing everyone's consciousness into singular will that could survive the apocalypse"
    Project stygma flashbacks intensifies. (HI3 Chapter 32-35)
    "Gnoses are fragments of a will equall the world" (roughly)
    They trying to assemble all the pieces of Exod- sorry, finality!

  • @kageki6686
    @kageki6686 10 месяцев назад +4

    man i love kaeya. i agree there's something more going on there! this makes me wonder more about that teacup from the archon quest, and possible connection to diluc >_> im looking forward to more hexenzirkel lore in the future. i cant wait to see how it all ties together

  • @honkhonk1712
    @honkhonk1712 10 месяцев назад +4

    It always comes back to Kaeya.... omg

  • @CunnyVirus
    @CunnyVirus 10 месяцев назад +2

    that condensing everyone part sounds like project stigmata from HI3RD
    aand herrscher of reason core crystal is essentially people's minds iirc.

  • @Ayakasimp-ix8pw
    @Ayakasimp-ix8pw 10 месяцев назад +2

    this story is born out of
    sacrifices and offerings.
    this flame of revenge
    burns for years.
    Is death the mother of that great war
    which is talked about by the nature?
    has that saviour come from
    the city of the sky,
    whose feet are kissed by the earth.
    is the one who sacrifices
    capable of changing the fate?

  • @TheJH1015
    @TheJH1015 9 месяцев назад +2

    ok, you mentioning the thing about 'being able to cut through will' reminded me of the second fight against Ei in the Inazuma Archon Quest. Yae Miko specifically says "Surely you don't think your ambition alone is enough to shake Ei's will, do you?" and the Traveler needing the ambition or WILL of the other people that got their Visions in the Statue of the Omnipresent God to break through Ei's. Same goes for Ei against the Puppet in her second story quest.
    And if you think about it, the SAME happened in Liyue with the Adepti granting the Traveler their powers or WILL to protect Liyue, and in Sumeru where through the Akasha and Nahida, ALL of Sumeru helped the Traveler defeat MechaMouche through their 'wisdom' or maybe WILL to protect their nation/Archon.
    There is a pattern of the people of a nation channeling their will to the Traveler to break through, or cut open, the threat to their existence or safety.
    The Traveler is learning to use their own will as a conduit of the will of the people of Teyvat to break the will of the world itself. The Holy Blade is the visualisation of our progress so far. We went from Dull Blade to Holy Blade. What if at the end of our journey, when the Traveler has refound their original will, the blade will evolve into their 'old' sword from the beginning cutscene to symbolise that?

  • @codymitchell-ec8sc
    @codymitchell-ec8sc 10 месяцев назад +2

    I enjoy watching your videos because you break down the lore that and your predictions and theories are almost actually the way it plays out that I believe that you are the smartest Genshin player because of how much I learn by your amazing videos thank you for breaking down the lore I find understanding the lore difficult when I am reading it in game. That's why I look for a video on your RUclips channel and u always have the break down of the lore within days. So I want to thank you for the understanding and I c

  • @Ryuukha
    @Ryuukha 10 месяцев назад +4

    Sooo we’re kaeya’s grandpa is what I’m getting 😂

  • @ArctiVax
    @ArctiVax 10 месяцев назад +3

    Very good speculation. Everyone and their mother is believing our sibling is third descender but DIED and was ressurected in Teyvat (hence the Irminsul record) but i like your connection of Gnoses to a holy blade much better.

  • @TheJasperMage
    @TheJasperMage 10 месяцев назад +4

    I haven't read the shatetred halberd. but your mention about the gnosis being a weapon broken into parts made me think of it

  • @amouramarie
    @amouramarie 10 месяцев назад +2

    This video made me level the Sword of Narziessenkruez and give it to Kaeya.