Why do I continue to watch these videos!??? I’ve already got a a full set of Wera VDE drivers and the same ratchet as yours, except with the longer shaft. I certainly do not need another, but I DO want it! I’m terrible lmao
@@MarioGoatse What you could do is find out where it's cheapest then order one and share the link. Then you are actually helping us all out rather than buying more tools you don't need. Its the right thing to do to help others he he he. 😄
The 816 RA is my go-to ratcheting driver. Perfect size for me. It definitely would have been nice if wera updated the 816 to the new ratcheting mechanism and tighter tolerance rapidapter of the 838.
I would just like to interject here about "made in Czechia". This is actually a good sign of very good quality. Basically an overwhelmingly *made in the EU* products are of a quite good (or at least above average) quality, with excellent quality control. While the Chinese or Vietnamese manufactures are perfectly capable of producing top tier stuff. Usually the companies (and especially corporations) do cheap out on them and the quality suffers for that, or at very least the quality control does. You should be very wary of companies proclaiming something like "designed/engineered in Germany/Switzerland/USA" and they not giving you the info on where it's actually made. It almost certainly means it's actually made in China, by the lowest bidder possible at that.
You can get good or bad quality anywhere in the world. It’s always up to the parent company how much they want to cheap out on product quality to make money. It comes down to the company’s integrity.
I have been very happy with mine. I use it to work on pocket knives. I really like that its compact enough that I can change direction of the drive one handed.
Excellent, I have been using it more and although I wondered why the handle wasn't bigger I now think it's because if the handle was too big it makes the ratchet drive mechanism harder to reach . So as a compact tool it's brilliant.
@@TrailTrekcan we get a review of the large Bosch please and thank you. Also I have depression and am on a lot of medication and your channel and the length of the videos helps me a lot so thank you.
Going to Berlin from Vienna, the fastest route goes though Brno and Prague, there always has been a lot of cultural, business and engineering exchange. Train from Berlin to Warsaw is like 5 hours ride and its completely flat. You could ride it on bike in two days if you wanted. Its all very close and with Schengen area and the free trade in EU, a tool might be made by a polish person in a german factory or a german person in a czech company. Differences between Germany, Czech Rep, Poland are smaller than they used to be.
If you're lookin' for a new ratcheting screwdriver to check out, I'd suggest taking a look at the Anex 397. It has a very similar shape to the Vessel that yoy showed with a couple differences (mostly improvements)... - It has very little slop/play - the bit doesn't jiggle much at all and the mechanism has very little axial movement. - The direction switch is smaller so there's less of a chance of accidentally flipping it when using it. - It has a deeper bit opening - this is mostly a bad thing, IMO, but I imagine it helps eliminate the slop. It's 40mm deep and the outside half is plastic. That means bits basically need to be at least 25mm long to reach the metal part of the bit opening. Being 40mm deep also means you could stick an entire 1" bit into it and possibly be unablto get it out. You basically wanna use 50mm bits or longer (or use a secondary bit holder - I'm currently using a 4" Rapidapter). Anyway, it's a good screwdriver, worth a look (if you haven't seen it already).
Been using it for years, it's the best ratcheting screwdriver. One handed operation, with ball handle that very comfortable in the palm. I combine it with 150mm slim bit + wiha centrofix bit holder, so the viewing angle is excellent, and it can go through small holes.
I use this everyday for the last 3 weeks I work on major appliances the only issue is if your in a tight spot the switch can get turned which can be annoying locking head is a must for me I have situations where if the bit is stuck inside a hole it’s hard to get back
Great comparison, I have both versions, and recently bought the even smaller version without the rapidaptor. I have both of the new versions in a set with bits,in a great pouch. I like this new ratcheting mechanism, lower back drag. Just forget about the pistol grip version with bit storage in the handle. And I have the little stubby one named bicycle set 5, also with bit storage,and ratchet. Recently I bought the wera safe torque speed 7515 screwdriver, great tool for bicycles.
The speed driving feature is nice since it doesn't have a shank that you can start screws with. I had to add some grip tape to the shank of my Williams driver to help start loose screws. If you haven't tried a Williams yet, it's a really nice feeling mechanism. The rest of it is pretty mediocre, but it would have to be to stay at its price point and still be USA made.
I've the magnetic one, 838 RA S... it's a little bit smaller... so maybe M is for Medium and that could mean a L will be available soon. Anyway I really like the free spining wheel also (and I'm not at all a screwdriver junky nor a Wera fan)
Good review, but defintly not the driver for me. IMO one of the main benefits to a driver with multiple bits is the convience/spaec of 1 driver, and thats mostly redundent when theres no bit storage.... Also the Wera handles just don't agree with my hands, at least the small one I have now, the bigger ones may be better. However that multi-speed thing is super interesting, hopefully more ratchet drivers start doing it, I agree with prettymuch everything you said around ratchet already being more concient and faster, and the multiple speeds just takes this even further.
I get a slightly unexpected compulsion to buy wera tools, much more than wiha which don't interest me nearly as much. The only logic I can find in it is relating to when I was a kid and used to buy a 1/4 lb of sweets from the old sweet shops with the tall glass jars. I think the colours on wera stuff speak to me on a psychological level that I don't fully understand! 😄
Man, I hate that Wera decided not to include Security Torx (Torx BO) with the "Kraftform Kompakt 838 RA-R M Set". Buying the long Torx bits is too expensive, buying the "Wera Kraftform Kompakt 60 RA Set" and buying the 838 RA-R M separately is also stupidly expensive. Ordered both (838 RA-R M and the 816 RA) in the Sets to see how they fit my hands. The 838 RA-R M arrived already and I really like the new "speed ratchet", which is even more annoying because it doesn't include the Security Torx (Torx BO) I need.
@@pandavova I also bought a st of 4 in security bits Torx for about 12$ maybe they won’t last as long as wera but I’ve had mine a long while with no issue
Thanks mate I enjoy testing these things and uploading my thoughts. Let me know of any cool tools you use that I have not covered as i'm always finding new gems after recommendations.
Great review! I'm considering between this vs KK60. I suppose the bit are more important? Because KK60 gives 1 more hex and 1 more torque bit.
Why do I continue to watch these videos!??? I’ve already got a a full set of Wera VDE drivers and the same ratchet as yours, except with the longer shaft. I certainly do not need another, but I DO want it! I’m terrible lmao
@@MarioGoatse What you could do is find out where it's cheapest then order one and share the link. Then you are actually helping us all out rather than buying more tools you don't need. Its the right thing to do to help others he he he. 😄
@@TrailTrek You’re right. I’m practically doing a public service at that point! Lmao
The 816 RA is my go-to ratcheting driver. Perfect size for me. It definitely would have been nice if wera updated the 816 to the new ratcheting mechanism and tighter tolerance rapidapter of the 838.
I would just like to interject here about "made in Czechia". This is actually a good sign of very good quality. Basically an overwhelmingly *made in the EU* products are of a quite good (or at least above average) quality, with excellent quality control. While the Chinese or Vietnamese manufactures are perfectly capable of producing top tier stuff. Usually the companies (and especially corporations) do cheap out on them and the quality suffers for that, or at very least the quality control does.
You should be very wary of companies proclaiming something like "designed/engineered in Germany/Switzerland/USA" and they not giving you the info on where it's actually made. It almost certainly means it's actually made in China, by the lowest bidder possible at that.
Czech made products are usually great quality - For example CZ are one of the best firearm producers in the world 👌
You can get good or bad quality anywhere in the world. It’s always up to the parent company how much they want to cheap out on product quality to make money. It comes down to the company’s integrity.
I have been very happy with mine. I use it to work on pocket knives. I really like that its compact enough that I can change direction of the drive one handed.
Excellent, I have been using it more and although I wondered why the handle wasn't bigger I now think it's because if the handle was too big it makes the ratchet drive mechanism harder to reach . So as a compact tool it's brilliant.
@@TrailTrekcan we get a review of the large Bosch please and thank you. Also I have depression and am on a lot of medication and your channel and the length of the videos helps me a lot so thank you.
Спасибо большое за помощь!!! Успехов и удачи Вам! 🤝🤝🤝👍
Going to Berlin from Vienna, the fastest route goes though Brno and Prague, there always has been a lot of cultural, business and engineering exchange. Train from Berlin to Warsaw is like 5 hours ride and its completely flat. You could ride it on bike in two days if you wanted. Its all very close and with Schengen area and the free trade in EU, a tool might be made by a polish person in a german factory or a german person in a czech company. Differences between Germany, Czech Rep, Poland are smaller than they used to be.
This is a great tool that I enjoy using! The speed feature is truly innovative. Good job, Wera! 👍
@@mcj5644 Agreed 👍
If you're lookin' for a new ratcheting screwdriver to check out, I'd suggest taking a look at the Anex 397. It has a very similar shape to the Vessel that yoy showed with a couple differences (mostly improvements)...
- It has very little slop/play - the bit doesn't jiggle much at all and the mechanism has very little axial movement.
- The direction switch is smaller so there's less of a chance of accidentally flipping it when using it.
- It has a deeper bit opening - this is mostly a bad thing, IMO, but I imagine it helps eliminate the slop. It's 40mm deep and the outside half is plastic. That means bits basically need to be at least 25mm long to reach the metal part of the bit opening. Being 40mm deep also means you could stick an entire 1" bit into it and possibly be unablto get it out. You basically wanna use 50mm bits or longer (or use a secondary bit holder - I'm currently using a 4" Rapidapter).
Anyway, it's a good screwdriver, worth a look (if you haven't seen it already).
Oh, right, one more difference is that the Anex doesn't have the "built-in" stubby like the Vessel.
Been using it for years, it's the best ratcheting screwdriver. One handed operation, with ball handle that very comfortable in the palm.
I combine it with 150mm slim bit + wiha centrofix bit holder, so the viewing angle is excellent, and it can go through small holes.
@@TheBonbenk I also put a CentroFix onto mine - for the same reason too! :D Though I'm mostly using 65mm bits. ;)
M for medium?
I use this everyday for the last 3 weeks I work on major appliances the only issue is if your in a tight spot the switch can get turned which can be annoying locking head is a must for me I have situations where if the bit is stuck inside a hole it’s hard to get back
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Great comparison, I have both versions, and recently bought the even smaller version without the rapidaptor. I have both of the new versions in a set with bits,in a great pouch. I like this new ratcheting mechanism, lower back drag. Just forget about the pistol grip version with bit storage in the handle. And I have the little stubby one named bicycle set 5, also with bit storage,and ratchet. Recently I bought the wera safe torque speed 7515 screwdriver, great tool for bicycles.
The speed driving feature is nice since it doesn't have a shank that you can start screws with. I had to add some grip tape to the shank of my Williams driver to help start loose screws. If you haven't tried a Williams yet, it's a really nice feeling mechanism. The rest of it is pretty mediocre, but it would have to be to stay at its price point and still be USA made.
I've the magnetic one, 838 RA S... it's a little bit smaller... so maybe M is for Medium and that could mean a L will be available soon.
Anyway I really like the free spining wheel also (and I'm not at all a screwdriver junky nor a Wera fan)
Good review, but defintly not the driver for me.
IMO one of the main benefits to a driver with multiple bits is the convience/spaec of 1 driver, and thats mostly redundent when theres no bit storage.... Also the Wera handles just don't agree with my hands, at least the small one I have now, the bigger ones may be better.
However that multi-speed thing is super interesting, hopefully more ratchet drivers start doing it, I agree with prettymuch everything you said around ratchet already being more concient and faster, and the multiple speeds just takes this even further.
I get a slightly unexpected compulsion to buy wera tools, much more than wiha which don't interest me nearly as much. The only logic I can find in it is relating to when I was a kid and used to buy a 1/4 lb of sweets from the old sweet shops with the tall glass jars. I think the colours on wera stuff speak to me on a psychological level that I don't fully understand! 😄
M for Medium? S for Small?🤔
Hmmm could be :-)
I always thought you prefered a smaller tool in your hand. 😂
Depends on the girth of course! :-)
Man, I hate that Wera decided not to include Security Torx (Torx BO) with the "Kraftform Kompakt 838 RA-R M Set".
Buying the long Torx bits is too expensive, buying the "Wera Kraftform Kompakt 60 RA Set" and buying the 838 RA-R M separately is also stupidly expensive.
Ordered both (838 RA-R M and the 816 RA) in the Sets to see how they fit my hands. The 838 RA-R M arrived already and I really like the new "speed ratchet", which is even more annoying because it doesn't include the Security Torx (Torx BO) I need.
I bought a set of 2 in security torx bits for 10$
@@AMERICANPRIDE1100 I'm talking about the 89mm wera torx security bits.
@@pandavova I also bought a st of 4 in security bits Torx for about 12$ maybe they won’t last as long as wera but I’ve had mine a long while with no issue
Great tool review
Thanks mate I enjoy testing these things and uploading my thoughts. Let me know of any cool tools you use that I have not covered as i'm always finding new gems after recommendations.