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In regards to Felix response...I think people forget its the AMA's...its in reference to western music. BTS though amazing did not pave the way for boy bands in the west...they did help pave the way for Kpop boy bands to transition in the west, that's totally different to the question asked. Boy band existed way before BTS .This was also a collab with NSYNC so Felix naming them was the respectful thing to do.
Exactly thank you exactly what I was thinking
@xVamp1re this is so true. The question was BOY BANDS
Fr boy bands existed before bts that’s what Army’s need to realize *NSYNC is older than BTS I think
@@Soobin4ever14 Facts!! And yes, they are
Exactly! The question was about boy bands as a whole not about kpop boy bands.
He said NSYNC because they were doing an NSYNC tribute at the AMA's - the entitlement of some fandoms is wild.
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I swear to freaking God.
Not fandomes, but one particular fandom.
Nowadays ARMY's lifestyle around "Who paved the way" rather than streaming their own artists latest songs 😂
Have you seen their songs have been back up to the top of various charts? Plus they've been in the military and haven't put anything new out
Is same with blackpink fandom
i agree
I don’t see anything wrong with his answer but the problem with you kpoppies is anytime even one army says something you do not agree with, y’all generalize all armys. I bet you majority of armys don’t know about this interview I just saw it now. Our artists are doing more than okay both as a group or soloist without been here. Hope you take your own advice though.
BTS has not really has a comeback since Yet To Come that was two years ago.
Why am I not surprised that ARMYs would act like that. 🙄
Same
Because that’s how they’ve always been like smh
Same
Not everyone
@@kpoplover921 Most
If you have to constantly say that your fav "paved the way",then that doesn't form a good look for your fav group ,and i say this as an Army
Like- world domination- both over used
Armies are always controversial edit: guys stop the war I'm sorry I shouldn’t have said all of armys are like that
Always
Same could be said about Stays and any of the other fan groups. There will always be fans who are controversial, but you can't say everyone is that way. Comments like this are what cause the rift between everyone
@@Clare0724 , not everyone will think like you. Is like when people accused Lisa lipsync at VMAS, blinks easily accused that person is Army hating and jealous of Lisa winning when there no Army that say anything. Every fandom have toxic people especially toxic and rude solo stans but of course they will never admit their fault and always easily say that's was Saesang, haters and Antis fault, our fandom will never treat our idols badly, we only attack haters that attacking our fandom first and they will never stop Play the victim
@@Clare0724This all started with Army getting pressed the moment it was announced SKZ was chosen to go to that show. Talking like BTS were going to be the most honored with SKZ specifically as their substitute who were going 'to destroy some BTS song' and 'make Kpop look bad'. And then getting mad by what Felix said. So it's normal after all this ppl doesn't remain silent. Then they didn't take long to drag Chan, and put the 'paved the way' thing everywhere, etc.
There are toxic fans in every fandom, but making a fuss for this kind of things is something typical of Army or Blink. Who have started the most serious and major problems against SKZ or get involved in blame us of something along with other 4gen to bring us more problems specifically since SKZ started to stand out in popularity Within their gen
@Lizz-p7x as a Stay and Army, I never saw that much hatred coming from Army. Again, you can't lump all fans as being bad. I saw a lot of fans bagging Suga for his scooter problem. I literally saw people saying he deserves to be unalived and wished it to happen. I will never say every Stay, every Blink, every Carat, etc said those things or even thought it.
I think some Army’s need to realize that they were in America BTS is a KPOP group The person who was interviewed aspected BOY BANDS like NSYNC and Backstreet Boys they had Straykids there bc they have become international so Felix answer was reasonable
Chan is so Kind❤❤ They should stop Attacking Him for saying what he want ❤
I am relieved to hear bambam is feeling better now ❤❤
Same
Im sorry but what is wrong with army? That fandom in crazy. Felix and other idols probably cringe at kpop fans like wth I do
It's svt last ot13 comeback before their reunion let's just enjoy please and there are beside you can listen to them .
Tbh they had prepared for this comeback before the drama
What the heck ? I'm ARMY ( only) and I agree with Felix! The question was which boy band paved the way meaning for all times! Although BTS indeed paved the way for Asian Artists they weren't the first boy band in the world! Felix's answer was a diplomatic one since they also did an homage to NSYNC! I would have wanted a more historically accurate answer from Felix like The Beatles or even better Jackson 5 ! But as I said before, NSYNC was a good enough answer! Well done Felix!
armys seems to forget that nsync was america's bts💀
they paved the way for AMERICAN boygroups lol
The Beatles paved the way for all boygroups. Lol.
@@janicelindegard6615 true true
1. That's so sweet of him
2. Fans really should go and wait for Eyes on you, 1 to 13, candy, rain & water/hate that DJ instead of hating Hoshi. (I won't consider those people who hated Hoshi a "Carat".)
3. This "Who paved the way" fight is literally pissing me off. It's so nonsense.
4. So wholesome
5. I'm so happy that he's feeling better.
6. NO FOOD!?? NO WATER!??Bighi- I mean Bigstupid messed up. Do better next time
7. Oh my gosh 🤣🤣
8. I'm so happy that Ni-Ki is not getting hate, but Be:li- I mean Be:dumb is
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Sunoo's mom brought snakes and asked ni-ki if he want 😅❤
Sunoo's mom is really wonderful and sweet for that 😅
And yet she raised a sassy boi 🤣
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Snakes 😭
@@agnoopinni 😭😭lol..
Nsync was around in the 90s bts in 2013. Lets be realistic here bts did not pave the way for Nsync as Nsync was there first. Felix can admire whoever he wants. Bts probably also admires nsync for u know. Armies need to sit down and be quiet.
Btw paved the way for Koreans. Its c are Armericans.
@SAnn1747 The interviewer did not ask about Koreans, it was overall. You'll love misreading things. Anyway, psy and Gangam style was there first, wonder girls before him. So we just going to forget about them?
As a carat, i am kinda let down on hoshi but i get it. Its a dream collab for him. So i am not going to hate on him for that.
Thank God Bambam is fine and better now❤
Ikr😭
I think Felix answered it in a professional and honest way. BTS means the world to Army but they are not the only artists to make significant contributions to music. It honestly turns me away from BTS with the constant fighting and negativity from the fandom as a whole. Like any fandom, most are actually good, fair and reasonable fans. I just wish they (the ones sending hate) would back off.
1: Aww Chan is so sweet😁 this makes me love him even more
2: Really?!😰
3: As an ARMY-STAY, STAYS I'm very sorry, I'm really sorry about the behavior of those kiddos.🤦 Ughhh this is why people hate us ARMY! Once again STAYS, I'm very sorry.
4: Aww So sweet, what a wholesome story🥹
5: How is he doing? Bam bam hope you're doing well, looks like this is the only time All Kpop fandoms come together. Bam bam we love you🫰
6: Really?! That's disturbing, BIGHIT & VENUE ORGANIZERS, No food and no water, Are you trying to harm MOAS in Jakarta!?! Are you out of your mind?!?! VENUE ORGANIZERS and BIGHIT do better!💢 And be considerate!
7: What the heck?! 🤣 Hahahahah!
8: Really Belift?! Don't you know ni-ki got hate all the way through debut? Belift, Have you learned nothing?! I agree with you, Author
Don't be sorry, I think it's reactionary. You know? We know what it's like to always have your rightfully earned accolades pulled out from underneath you by people who didn't even see you earn them, or how hard you worked to earn them.
It tends to cause one to build up a reactionary defense mechanism inside themselves. Sometimes it gets to the point that you literally can't even tell that what you are getting upset about, isn't even the same thing as what you actually THINK you are getting upset about.
It would take everyone in the whole famdom realizing at the same time that MAYBE they need to cool down first. Aka, BEFORE they stand a chance at properly explaining what they think they will need to explain, haha. Then once cooled off, realizing it was a simple misunderstanding and all is good... we don't see rationally when someone we care about.
Even if it's not technically the case, is believed to need our defending... Simple as that. Also, every single fandom has its 1%... remember that. We all have it. And the biggest the fandom, the more people fall into that 1%. It tricks people into thinking those fandoms have more nasty people therefore they are more toxic, and they use this to imply that the group you care so much for is somehow attracting bad people.
The idols themselves aren't gold people, at least, not as good as theirs. "And the proof is in the toxicity"... Naw, not even close. Their fandom is just bigger at the moment. Simple as that. ARMY is not toxic. Neither is my deareat STAY. 😊 (Bad people don't feel the need to apologize for something that happened by proxy that they had absolutely no part of or ability to stop. 🩵)
We are all just individual people. We have no control over what others do. Yet we are expected to control millions of people? We are expected to take responsibility for perfect strangers who we know less than the people who's upset, because at least they saw the screen names of those who ARE guilty, we don't even have that! Lol
No, the fandom being blamed, no matter what happened, isn't the one doing soemthing wrong in that moment. It's anyone who belongs to tbe other fandom who is. Who's poking a bear, who's bringing controversy down upon their idols heads because they can't seem to put their idols wellbeing above their own momentary petty victory.
Futhermore... If someone does our groups wrong, its time we hold them accountable, not their fandom. Personal accountability. Because when we argue with someone in the comments, we lost the moment we say "toxic ARMY" or "toxic BLINKS" or "toxic STAY... Because we just attacked their group by doing that, escalating things.
We just did to them what we are tied of having done to us, which is do counterproductive. We KNOW that will trigger them, it's just so childish. And we ensure that they themselves don't have to deal with it, even though they would rather they were forced to themselves! 2 issues, solved by the same change. Stop blaming fandoms, personally accountability. It would really help.
Also, side note, it WOULD be great if the channels that post content on "netizens say..." but they only show 3 comments or whatever. We need to do something about that too. (Not talking about this channel. I definitely dont agree with this channel on a lot of stuff. Seriously, Like half! 😂 But I respect the fact that they don't do this, I respect it very much.)
So I would rather not agree with them and stay updated on my SKZ by a wellmeaning person who loves them too. Than someone who I agree with on most things... only they are using their platform to take nonissues, complaints or hate being disednout in a sinlg online thread on some platform internationally dominated fandoms don't even have access to, taking the 3 comment that say what they want to say.
Then, they use those to build a stronger narrative around the topic they want to speak on today, and TADA! Now you can make Millions of people think that another fandom filled with several other millions upon millions, that they as a whole are guilty of whatever, that they are responsible. So those channels are a big part of the problem too.
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Pretty sure, those Army were - once again - korean ones. A lot of people have this problem that they live in their little bubble and have difficulties to comprehend outside of it. BTS paved the way for male k-pop groups on the international stage and for the male groups of today to be able to become what they are (e.g. with more freedom of decision and influence on their own music, which SKZ definitely have profited from).
But when it comes to the bigger picture, be it popularization of k-pop in the western world in general (which is mostly on PSY) or the success of boygroups in general (which was all the 90s western boygroups, like N*Sync, Backstreetboys, etc) or even the success of male idols in the music industry (which was, and i hate to say it, that POS Johnny Kitagawa, a japanese, and a disgusting human being), then it goes over many korean Army's heads.
So called multis are always on the way ' as a army and talking shit '. BTS have been tributed in AMA ? Have you congratulated?
@@olgahein4384
Okay, thanks for the heads up
Sorry Army but BTS did NOT pave the way for anything regarding American Music Industry!! We have had Korean artists here before BTS!! If you really want to get technical about it I would say JYP is the man that really paved the way! We had Rain, Wonder Girls, and Psy here before BTS. Would they like it if Justin Beiber went to Korea and stated The Beatles, Aerosmith, and Beach Boys paved the way at the ASEA or MAMA awards? Then, they may have a reason to hate on someone but don't friggin hate on Felix for answering a question about American music in an acceptable American way jeesh seriously get over it. I like BTS too but realize they are not responsible for every little achievement that KPOP has gained throughout the world!
Armies being dramatic what's the problem if he would have said that what would have happened huh nothing. Armies need to stop acting so controversial
Our channie is truly kind❤
Armys always embarrassing themselves .😂😂
I just recently had a converstation with an army who kept adamantly telling me that without BTS we wouldn't have world tours. I've been to my first kpop concert in Paris two years before BTS even debuted lmao 😂 sure they contributed, but so did many other groups, all in different aspects of korean culture. Why can't we just praise each group for what they gave us instead of having to have one super group that is somehow responsible for the entirety of kpop?
THE MOMENT I SAW NIKI DOING AN AD WITH MCDONALD'S IK HE WAS GOING TO BE IN TROUBLE ANS WAS SO SCARED FOR HIM BUT IM GLAD THAT THERE ARE MINDFUL ENGENES AS WELL
Boybands date as far back as the 1950's learn music history people. As far as Korea goes Big Bang was in the USA music charts. before BTS was even a group. As far as the DJ Khalid thing goes the collab was done recorded before all of the Dj Khalid controversy so to hate on Hoshi or Seventeen is ridiculous and haters are trying to make mountains out of mole hills. Leave Felix alone and leave Seventeen and hoshi alone and get a friggin life
He is so kind and sweet 😊
BTS didn’t pave the way for boy bands. Maybe k-pop boy bands, but that wasn’t the question. These army’s are ridiculous. LOL 🤣
Exactly 💯 correct. Really sad
They paved the way even chan said
@@kpoplover921 paved the way for Kpop, that was not the question. The question was boybands in general
@@geminiblue43 Right
@@kpoplover921 The question was about boy bands in general, not K-pop boy bands. Bts didn’t pave the way for boy bands. It’s way longer back than them.
Felix answered the question very well. He said many boy bands paved the way and of course he mentioned nsync as an example because of the collaboration.
it would have been very disrespectful if he had named another group.
But in the age of the internet, many have lost respect.
armies and bts didn't invent the phrase paved the way and they are always so triggered by the phrase.
Above all, this completely downplays all the successes that other groups achieve, all groups still work hard for their success
I’m sorry but armies are really chaotic.
ARMIES YALL NEED TO RELAX. I SAY THIS AS AN ARMY. I get that bts is not complete currently but yall need to leave other groups alone and stop giving us a bad name.
Boy Bands have existed in the West, specifically the U.S. & U.K for decades before BTS existed or K-pop as a whole existed. The first real boy band is often considered to be The Beatles, who were formed in 1956. They were & still are worldwide known UK band.
Then followed the temptations, which were an American boy band who were known for their vocals, formed in 1960. You may know their song "My Girl" if you're American.
There were many more that followed like The Jackson 5 or New edition who danced and Sing like K-pop groups today and were formed in 1978, They sang, Dance, Rapped and had positions similar to your favorite groups.
Felix mentioned NSYNC, who they were collabing with for obvious reasons, but ARMYS being mad at this shows their ignorance to the orgins of where K-pop and it's successor J-pop got it's inspiration from.
Sorry for the essay, I love music & history.
Thank God they are not hating on Ni-ki cause it's not his fault i was really worried because of this since i had not been much active on social media since few days and as apart from being Engene i am Army and stay as well i feel so shameful...like why are they hating Felix over this chill out guys
It feels like BELIFT do this kind of things on purpose with the mentality to stay trending even if it brings their idols hates.
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As a Army.....I feel bad for Felix .....poor Felix ❤❤❤he did nothing wrong 😢
I feel soooo bad for Bambam ......😢😢
Moas did right...I mean they paid a lot of money
Wtf........BELIFTTTTT....🗡️🗡️⚔️🗡️🗡️🔪🔪🔪....i wont hate Niki...but I'll hate belift and McDonald's for sur e😌😊☺️🔪
I’m so happy to see Bambam be more open about his mental health. Him reassuring everyone that he is getting better is the best thing! I hope he keeps smiling and has a great life!❤️
Just need to remind y'all that NSYNC and backstreet boys were doing there thang waaaay before BTS or super junior. Remember that. I will give it to BTS that they and PSY made Korean songs and artists more international. I will give that where its due. But the ARMYS need to as well. NSYNC and backstreet boys were REALLY popular at least here in America when they ere still together each as its own band.. Heck, they still are! So y'all ARMYS need to calm down and please listen to the whole sentance.
The DJ Khalid one is a bit waaay to confusing.
Also what happened to bambam? And that was sweet of Jackson.
what is the reason of the Ni-ki and MickeyD's issue?
McDonald's offered thousands of free meals to soldiers in I$rael's military conducting operations in Gaza (People are dy**g)
Carats are really starting to irritate me
It's so nice that Bambam's feeling better☺🥰and I'm so glad Niki's not getting any hate
you know what's funny with the felix thing? It absolutely doesnt matter and those true STAY are correct, just because everyone doesn't mention bts doesnt mean people are slighting them, THEY WERE AT AN AWARD CEREMONY CELEBRATING NSYNC, the FIRST globally successful boyband, there wasn't anything wrong with what he said and if army actually have an issue (which I don't believe because I choose to give people more credit) then they can just continue to be mad about something that warrants no anger 😂
I hate the toxic bts fans so dang much istg
armies omg even bts will feel ashamed if they know what's happening i am a stayarmy andskz where asked who are the boybands not only kpop bands bts paved the way for kpop that is true but also nsync paved the way for western culture and for a reminder they were doing a collab with them that's way felix mentioned them
I am embarrassed too as hell like wtf are on these creatures!
BTS would feel embarrassed more.i could imagine namjoon shaking his head goshhhhhhhh
Multi's opinion rejected
There was gen 1 and gen 2 of kpop that paved the way for gen 3 which BTS is from. Gen 1 and 2 have performed around the world long before BTS did. Did you know that Monsta X was the first kpop group to perform at the Jingle Ball here in the USA?Do your research and stop being so narrow minded.
Agreed. Many early kpop groups were performing internationally before and early in the creation of social media (unthinkable for people born today). Acknowledging that someone came before, did things first before, etc. does not take away from the contributions and accomplishments of BTS. It shows a lack of maturity on the side of some fans.
~TimeSkips~
● 0:00 - Bangchan's donation
●0:33 - Hoshi's reply on controversy
●2:20 - Stays Praising Felix,Armies Hating on Felix
●3:33 - Enha's family at Enha's concert
●3:58 - BamBam's Update
●6:06 - Moas on Various issues
●7:10 - The boyz son Yan spotted under a viddo mocking hypes founder
●7:49 - Engenes angry at Be Lift
The problem with felix answer was that Nsync didn't pave the way and in fact it was Backstreet Boys who are were much more big and still are bigger than Nsync 😂 so where did Bts even came from, so embarrassing
Absolutely, if he wanted to go a little further he could have mentioned NKOTB but no doubt the Backstreet Boys were huge and are still active and touring since 1993...
Tbh most armies are just finding out about this felix interview now😂😂.....we literally just have a lot more worries in life and our boys than fandom wars unless the attack are directed personal towards them😂😂😂😂 ......and also what about we multi-stans?😂😂
Here's the thing, as a Carat, I can understand the difference between being a friend and being actually involved in terrible crimes. Just because DJ Khalid is of Palestinian decent, doesn't mean he has to speak out about anythispeeThats his choice. Being friends with Duddy doesn't mean he was involved in any crimes. Literally no other celeb has been charged or named. You literally dont know everything about your friends, so stop just being so quick to call someone a zionist. SA in SK is a issue but what do you think a celeb is going to do about it? Take that energy to the people who can actually do something-political leaders. Stop projecting someone else views onto other people. DJK views rep him and him alone.
As a army I'm not surprised some toxic army's are like that
they are baby armies who gets triggered easily
And BTS paved way for k-pop and nsync paved the way for western group
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NSYNC paced as a whole!! They paved the way for K-pop too, without them there would be no K-pop.
@@Leidyybug yeah they inspired many people
I'M AN ARMY BUT NSYNC WAS OUT WAAAY BEFORE BTS. SO HOW COULD BTS HAVE PAVED THE WAY. SOME PPL JUST HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING TO HATE ON
Be:lift lost its mind this year, like how they can collaborate their artist with boycotted brand, they are doing all their best to make money from Enhypen, ignoring Ni-ki's reputation and us, Ni-ki already the member who gets a lot of hate, Be:lift making all mess, I feel bad for Enhypen
I think it's time to stop giving attention to charity donations. It's a huge tax break. The more you donate, the bigger the tax break. Let's focus on actual charity work and good deeds instead ❤!
It's funny how BTS and many other groups paved the way but SOME armys think inly BTS paved the way
Idk why carats are hating svt with their collab with dj khalid 😢😢😢😢 this is just ridiculous.
Cause he is trash. This collab is unfortunate, but I don't hate the boys for it
chan deserves better considering all the things hes done for stay
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@@kpop_kdrama_addict i feel like when theres an idol whos always kind and doesnt act out or do anything too rash people seem to have an adverse negative reaction to them, chans one of them, san is another who ppl r taking advantage of or not giving him enough chances to reach his full potential.
@@kpop_kdrama_addict but its also not the same level of hate that a lot female idols experience more nastiness and constant hate trains
People need to understand the fact that making history in kpop doesn't mean you paved the way for all the boy bands out there. Bts might have paved a way for kpop but there have already been way more more boy bands that existed even before bts who made histories!
How old I am: the "feud" between ARMYs and the rest of the world is as pointless as the feud between fans of the Beatles and the Rolling Stones.
❤️BamBam❤
I'm sorry but I don't feel that carats are completely wrong!
As a stay and army i don't get it😭
Like it's his opinion i mean it's true that BTS had an BIG impact on kpop but they aren't the only one pls don't hate him for no reason😭😭😭
The Felix one is so funny lol. I'm not even hating on them but its a bit embarrassing cuz they don't seem to understand the question properly and now they r making controversies. 😅
0:18 thats NOT what the statement said😭💀
hype is the worst kpop idol agency
Why are the army's always mean and rude Leave Felix alone and bdw BTS didn't do that KPOP was already big before BTS got famouse SHINee SNSD and so many other amazing idols proved that already
I'm an ARMY and I don't hate Felix. Those, who offended, not the majority of the fandom.
No one hated him lol. We were just trending bts paved the way because bts were honoured at the amas
If I am not wrong "BTS paved the way" chan said it after which army's whole life begin to revolve around it.
Army and stay here, those so called “armies” are insane they are not real fans 😂 Ive been listening to BTS since debut and the fandom got so bad when they gained fame internationally I stopped associating with them
I absolutely adore bts but their fandom needs to seek help
Con tutto il rispetto per i BTS, prima di loro, c erano tante Boys Band!
Non parlo di gruppi del Kpop, Backstreet Boys, Take That, NSYNC, Felix si riferivano a loro!!!
Quanta gente ignorante, inoltre, gli SKZ, hanno tante volte, espresso la loro ammirazione per i BTS!!
Army think that only BTS can make own song I never see BTS . jealouly is disease
Kpopies , we army trend BTS for everyday . Today we are trending more because they are given tribute as most awarded band. If so called fandom gets insecured by those hashtag we don't really care . Aren't you the one who are reporting BTS trend ? Sorry we can't do anything but sending burnols? Keep triggered .
You don’t get it. We do understand that BTS could have paved the way for KPop but not Western music. The interviewer asked who paved the way (generally) not who paved for kpop music
@@pelumilawal7523 So , I didn't mention that they paved the way for western artists. No army said that. We just trended a hashtag with many more like Jin album Namjoon's documentary . If a certain fandom gets offended that we were trending because of their fav's appearance on AMA then they should touch some grass. We didn't mention their favs . They are just pick me fandom
@@tonnisaha1732they are not ready to listen let them live in their delusions
trend whatever you want but coming into felix's comment section and writing "BTS PAVED THE WAY" is not the way to go. not the whole fandom but some of the armies have a really rotten way of thinking. i'd wish instead of supporting those rats you would call them out. each day they are becoming braver and bullying other fandoms. if you are so devoted towards bts you should all collectively do something about that.
@@cacto3chan It's not like we like them or something. We have better things to do instead of fighting with them that's why we simply report them. Yk one thing you'll find stays under bts's related content more than armys under any other groups content. This is a fact and then no one cares to point them out but if any army even praise bts all the other fandoms gang up on that one person. Stop mentioning things like oh "skz this" ,"skz that" under bts related content. Make sure to call them out majority of stays are like that. It's mostly baby armys doing this but in your case majority of your fandom thinks it's cool to do that since y'all have normalize this too much