I have to admit, the timing of this video is rather comical. Just yesterday, 04/28, we attempted to make ferrocene in my advanced inorganic chemistry class using what was supposed to be FeCl2.4H2O. However, based on the color of the majority of what was in the jar, most of the compound added was most likely FeCl3. That wasn't our only problem in the day, for instance, the lab we were using from MIT called for 15g of KOH, but we ended up adding 60g because we couldn't get the mixture of KOH and 1,2-Dimethoxyethane to stay in a slurry. Anyway, this would have been very useful in order to get pure FeCl2 to react and eventually make ferrocene, and it was rather comical to see the day after we needed FeCl2. Thanks for the videos, keep up the good work.
When I saw the grayish anhydrous ferrous chloride it made imagine it was the surface of a hellish lifeless planet with a toxic atmosphere. I swear inorganic salts can create exotic imaginary landscapes
Once again very good! Just one thing; at the very end I ALMOST got to hear your real voice I think. Seems the voice scrambler you use was going wonky. Thanks as always Nerd.
+Doazic Good glassware, especially glassware with ground glass joints, are designed to take vacuum. Vacuum distillations would be impossible if we couldn't use vacuum on them.
+99 problems When using ground glass joints silicone grease can be applied to prevent seizing as well as provide a better seal. When i use grease i've never had a stopper get stuck.
Hi, Thanks for your great effort, I did the same experiment but I've obtained a green compound. I had to protect it under inert atmosphere because it started to turn brown/red, I guess that the green compound I've obtained is the tetrahydrate one, is it possible to dehydrate it to obtain the pale buff-colored anhydrous FeCl2 ?
I used steel wool and the resulting cloride was very dark green, so I left the wool in for another day and it turned dark blue... I don't think the steel wool I used is pure enough...
I really love the videos with tips and tricks to get around a problem. As a newbie to chemistry I'm really impressed with you skills. It really take som smart thinking and knowledges. Thank you for another video.
Is it possible to dry the hydrated ferrous chloride in a microwave oven? Just use a plactic container with a cap, and a small hole in it to let the steam escape. Almost no air is able to oxidize the iron then, I think. Or is there something else that keeps this from working? Also, I don't think it will get hotter than 100 degrees C, because when the water is gone, the iron won't heat up anymore, which keeps it from decompositioning.
+marco23p if the ferrous chloride was freshly made and no air was exposed while you put it in the plastic container then i suppose that can work. I'm just afraid it might get too hot and melt the plastic since the ferrous chloride salt is conductive and might absorb the microwaves and start heating.
Sorry for my noob question, but are you using a cupcake paper to filter? If not im sorry but it really looks like that, I wana know cause we have some and maybe I can use that ..
I admit I don't know too much about chemistry, but here you're using what you refer to as "iron nails." Aren't these nails actually a steel alloy? As a source of iron, wouldn't something like sand cast iron pipe be a more pure source? It's easily broken up with a hammer.
+Barnekkid Ironically (pun *very much* intended) cast iron is not pure iron, it contains much of the same alloy elements as steel, except much more carbon (>2%). Plain carbon steel, such as old nails, contain only very trace amounts of elements like phosphorus, sulfur or manganese, I don't think it's a big deal. Very pure iron can be obtained from iron transformer cores if need be (and specialty metal retailers, it's not unobtainium).
not a very nerdy question, but why do you alter you voice to make the tone a lot lower? (Assuming you do and your voice isn't actually incredibly deep)
+Nashyj495 He doesn't want people to recognize him, is more or less what it comes down to. The company that he works for doesn't like these kinds of video, from what I've heard.
Here's how to make ferric chloride anhydrous: Get some iron and hydrochloric acid, then add some methanol to the mixture. Then react it with some hydrogen peroxide, oxygen, or chlorine, distill off the solvent, and insulate it to prevent moisture getting in. That's how to make anhydrous ferric chloride.
Im doing a fun experiment using electrolysis, Im wondering how to dissolve the anode iron nail quickly. is there a way to dissolve it completely faster.
Can i dry while bubbling with nitrogen? Without distillation? Or maybe bubbling the solution for a long time with nitrogen and then using a Rotary evaporator? Thank you
I guess you used square head nails because they are usually very old and are more pure iron and not steel. (too bad, usually they are work money to collectors if they are in a reasonably good shape.)
I love watching your videos! However, can i just put the solution of ferrous chloride out side and let it oxidizes, and obtain the ferric chloride salt by evaporating the ferric chloride solution?
Aren't you worried that the nails will scratch the hell out of your flask while using them as stirrers? Seems like a good way to cause a huge mess in the lab later.
I'm making a mass amount of this to purify water for drinking. Is this the same recipe? 57 GRAMS OF IRON, 300ml OF METHANOL AND 200ml OF HYDROCHLORIC ACID
wait drinking water? this is designed to be used without water. If you just want ferrous chloride you can add iron to acid and skip the methanol... But even then, i do NOT recommend using nails. They could contain other heavy metals like lead or chromium which are not healthy at all. You need a source of a ultra-pure iron fit for human consumption.
Could I make CaCl2 anhydrous for dry in a desiccator with this method?: First I make Cl2, and I do it pass into H2SO4 to dry any rest of water. Then I pass this Cl2 dried in methanol with CaO. Thanks you a lot!
+Fatih Enes Kuru your equation is unbalanced, even then, there is no reason it should occur, the acid would react with the iron and release hydrogen gas far more easily than reducing methanol
Dear nerd rage I am looking to make polypeptide bonds between 2 amino acids at home, could I use HCL to hydrolyse the 2 amines and is there a way to couple the functional groups with easily available reagents? Thank you so much.
nerdalert226 They're the same thing. You need licenses to buy the toxic reagents. Hydrolysis refers to the cleavage of an amide bond not the formation. You're thinking of an entirely different process where the formation is much harder to achieve.
Guys wondering if you could help in the sand casting world we need bentone 34 to make k-bond casting sand it's an oil based sand instead of green sand problem is bentone is really hard to get your hands on if you could do a video on how to alter bentonite clay into bentone it would be really appreciated I have no idea where to even start
+ficolas2 bentone 34 is made from bentonite clay something about changing ions or the structure of the clay I don't know chemistry all I know is bentone 34 is made from bentonite and I wanna know how to do it to make oil bonded casting sand
+Erika Sandstrom You could use water in the reaction as well, but because the boiling point of methanol is much lower you can boil it off much faster when you need to.
could aqueous ferrous chloride be dried under an inert atmosphere to keep it from oxidizing, or does it decompose/react with its water at the required temperatures?
+Robert Szasz if you can do it under inert atmosphere that would be a lot better. Although if you were working on that level you probably aren't an amateur and can afford to buy anhydrous ferrous chloride directly :)
It's almost always cheaper to buy common chemicals, but welding grade gasses are pretty cheap. If you haven't already done so making an oxygen scavenger/ gas dryer the low cost but high labor way could be very interesting.
Does anyone know if the same reaction can be performed in ethanol or acetone instead of methanol? Just worried about methanol fumes and general safety, plus I have a pile of ethanol and can get acetone but methanol's not very accessible.
Laboratory grade glassware (typically borosilicate) has a very low coefficient of thermal expansion so it's very unlikely. This is one of the reasons lab glass is so expensive.
That can happen yes. As long as it won't influence onward synthesis you can use silicone grease to help prevent the joints jamming under reduced pressure. Alternatively use a hot air gun on the joint. Options if these fail to work tend to get messy.
That can happen yes. As long as it won't influence onward synthesis you can use silicone grease to help prevent the joints jamming under reduced pressure. Alternatively use a hot air gun on the joint. Options if these fail to work tend to get messy.
That can happen yes. As long as it won't influence onward synthesis you can use silicone grease to help prevent the joints jamming under reduced pressure. Alternatively use a hot air gun on the joint. Options if these fail to work tend to get messy.
Pretty sure it's his actual voice folks. What would he gain by distorting it? He's an educational channel, and his videos are high quality. Deep voice people do exist.
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I'll be making a video on how to make anhydrous FERRIC chloride once the new equipment and glassware i ordered comes in.
Nurdrage would you be able to do a video about making thermite with manganese dioxide from lantern batteries?
+Fabian Feliciani Its on the To-do list, but i don't know when i'll get around to it. We'll see.
Do you have a Ph.D in chemistry ?
+Nicolas Lopez Yes he does, in inorganic.
+I need a better username that's pretty cool
I have to admit, the timing of this video is rather comical. Just yesterday, 04/28, we attempted to make ferrocene in my advanced inorganic chemistry class using what was supposed to be FeCl2.4H2O. However, based on the color of the majority of what was in the jar, most of the compound added was most likely FeCl3. That wasn't our only problem in the day, for instance, the lab we were using from MIT called for 15g of KOH, but we ended up adding 60g because we couldn't get the mixture of KOH and 1,2-Dimethoxyethane to stay in a slurry. Anyway, this would have been very useful in order to get pure FeCl2 to react and eventually make ferrocene, and it was rather comical to see the day after we needed FeCl2. Thanks for the videos, keep up the good work.
I don't even know what's going on, I only watch these because I just fucking love science!
+knuck7 me too
+knuck7 they're making iron 2 chloride
it's not that complex you just probably flunked chemistry.
+knuck7 explosm.net/comics/3557/
well you aren't wrong.
+I need a better username well said.
When I saw the grayish anhydrous ferrous chloride it made imagine it was the surface of a hellish lifeless planet with a toxic atmosphere. I swear inorganic salts can create exotic imaginary landscapes
If you stack two aluminum cans and add gallium to the top of the can will it affect both cans or just the one at the top?
What software or hardware do you use to distort your voice like this with which specific settings? It's pretty consistent.
Can you also connect a vacuum to reduce air exposure?
Yeah, but the flask would cave in under the (outer) pressure pretty fast.
CoolKoon wtf r u talking about. Caving in? It’s lab glass suitable for vacuum I notice this is an old comment but still..
why do you alter your voice? always wondered this never found a good answer.
+11austin3100 Sounds like he's wearing a mask, not necessarily altering it.
nice work 👌
Once again very good! Just one thing; at the very end I ALMOST got to hear your real voice I think. Seems the voice scrambler you use was going wonky. Thanks as always Nerd.
I would imagine it would be easier to displace the air with CO2 and dry as in the beginning of the video. Would this not work?
beautiful
Great videos! In some of your videos, you sound just like the guy from "Alien Interview". LOL
Any tips on making anhydrous water?
React it with sodium metal to remove all of the water impurities
Nice
Isn't there a danger to putting the stopper on the hot flask? Pressure will drop as it cools down, might crack.
+Doazic Good glassware, especially glassware with ground glass joints, are designed to take vacuum. Vacuum distillations would be impossible if we couldn't use vacuum on them.
+99 problems Perhaps. You can always use a heat gun to heat the top of the flask though when you open it for the first time.
+99 problems When using ground glass joints silicone grease can be applied to prevent seizing as well as provide a better seal. When i use grease i've never had a stopper get stuck.
Hi,
Thanks for your great effort, I did the same experiment but I've obtained a green compound. I had to protect it under inert atmosphere because it started to turn brown/red, I guess that the green compound I've obtained is the tetrahydrate one, is it possible to dehydrate it to obtain the pale buff-colored anhydrous FeCl2 ?
I used steel wool and the resulting cloride was very dark green, so I left the wool in for another day and it turned dark blue... I don't think the steel wool I used is pure enough...
I really love the videos with tips and tricks to get around a problem. As a newbie to chemistry I'm really impressed with you skills. It really take som smart thinking and knowledges. Thank you for another video.
Is it possible to dry the hydrated ferrous chloride in a microwave oven? Just use a plactic container with a cap, and a small hole in it to let the steam escape. Almost no air is able to oxidize the iron then, I think. Or is there something else that keeps this from working? Also, I don't think it will get hotter than 100 degrees C, because when the water is gone, the iron won't heat up anymore, which keeps it from decompositioning.
+marco23p if the ferrous chloride was freshly made and no air was exposed while you put it in the plastic container then i suppose that can work. I'm just afraid it might get too hot and melt the plastic since the ferrous chloride salt is conductive and might absorb the microwaves and start heating.
I have no idea what happened, I just find observing what happens cool, but what are the uses for Anhydrous Ferrous Chloride?
Anyday Nurdrage posts a video is going to be a good day. Thank you Nurdrage.
Sorry for my noob question, but are you using a cupcake paper to filter? If not im sorry but it really looks like that, I wana know cause we have some and maybe I can use that ..
Would this work to make anhydrous aluminum trichloride?
I admit I don't know too much about chemistry, but here you're using what you refer to as "iron nails." Aren't these nails actually a steel alloy? As a source of iron, wouldn't something like sand cast iron pipe be a more pure source? It's easily broken up with a hammer.
+Barnekkid Ironically (pun *very much* intended) cast iron is not pure iron, it contains much of the same alloy elements as steel, except much more carbon (>2%). Plain carbon steel, such as old nails, contain only very trace amounts of elements like phosphorus, sulfur or manganese, I don't think it's a big deal. Very pure iron can be obtained from iron transformer cores if need be (and specialty metal retailers, it's not unobtainium).
show us how to make nitric oxide.
Totally unrelated, but do you have a video about electrolytic derusting anywhere?
Can make anhydrous ferrous chloride from reaction of iron and chloride gas?
Two videos in three days... Making up for the long gap trying to synthesize p-chlorotoluene? ^^
not a very nerdy question, but why do you alter you voice to make the tone a lot lower? (Assuming you do and your voice isn't actually incredibly deep)
+Nashyj495 He doesn't want people to recognize him, is more or less what it comes down to. The company that he works for doesn't like these kinds of video, from what I've heard.
+tyjuji IIRC he used to work in such a lab, but for reasons not told(?) doesn't work there anymore, but the low tone stuck as a "trademark".
+Nashyj495 marketing.
Here's how to make ferric chloride anhydrous: Get some iron and hydrochloric acid, then add some methanol to the mixture. Then react it with some hydrogen peroxide, oxygen, or chlorine, distill off the solvent, and insulate it to prevent moisture getting in. That's how to make anhydrous ferric chloride.
Already in the video.
@@NurdRage I guess I don't see it.
oh my bad, you mean ferric chloride, or Iron(III) chloride. Unfortunately your method won't work.
@@NurdRage you mean to tell me that ferric chloride is hygroscopic?
Yes, viciously so.
Sir may you please guide me to make inorganic pigment.
I am working on them.
specially the "pigment RED-101", Thanks
Im doing a fun experiment using electrolysis, Im wondering how to dissolve the anode iron nail quickly. is there a way to dissolve it completely faster.
Is it possible to heat the hydrous aluminum chloride and make it anyhydrous Aluminium chloride? Have the same properties?
Can i dry while bubbling with nitrogen? Without distillation? Or maybe bubbling the solution for a long time with nitrogen and then using a Rotary evaporator? Thank you
I guess you used square head nails because they are usually very old and are more pure iron and not steel. (too bad, usually they are work money to collectors if they are in a reasonably good shape.)
If you read this and don't mind me asking, where did you get your doctorate and/or what was your thesis paper on?
Fantastic Video! Keep up the excellent work, the chemistry community on RUclips is finally beginning to recover! :)
I love watching your videos! However, can i just put the solution of ferrous chloride out side and let it oxidizes, and obtain the ferric chloride salt by evaporating the ferric chloride solution?
any chance of you doing story times where you re count funny amusing things that you have seen come across or done ?
Grant Thompson sent me
I know you've done luminescents before, but I can't seem to find a vid on strontium aluminate. Could you make some and make a vid?
Dude I love your voice man is that your original voice or is it edited man you should do a video with your normal voice if it is edited
Aren't you worried that the nails will scratch the hell out of your flask while using them as stirrers?
Seems like a good way to cause a huge mess in the lab later.
no
would it be useful to store it under a solvent after it has cooled down to stop oxidation?
Like water? ok sorry
Maybe, if the solvent won't interfere with your intended use of ferrous chloride....
Is there a way to remove the iron oxide and purify this if you don’t have a distillation setup?
They gave awwthoritees the slip, IN A PRIUS
I'm making a mass amount of this to purify water for drinking. Is this the same recipe?
57 GRAMS OF IRON, 300ml OF METHANOL AND 200ml OF HYDROCHLORIC ACID
wait drinking water? this is designed to be used without water. If you just want ferrous chloride you can add iron to acid and skip the methanol...
But even then, i do NOT recommend using nails. They could contain other heavy metals like lead or chromium which are not healthy at all. You need a source of a ultra-pure iron fit for human consumption.
have you made the How to make Ferric Chloride, video yet.?
Looks like moon rock
Can I use same system to make AlCl3?
Wow didn't know that it could be done this way. I'll give it a try.
In electrophilic aromatic substitution, isn't it supposed to be FeCl3? (or AlCl3)
+Jacob Dickey what happens when you react fecl2 with chlorine gas?
ahh! that makes sense now. thank you, love the videos! keep learning new things at my University and love seeing these things in your videos!
I wonder weather there is a use for fluoro antimonic acid ?
Could I make CaCl2 anhydrous for dry in a desiccator with this method?:
First I make Cl2, and I do it pass into H2SO4 to dry any rest of water.
Then I pass this Cl2 dried in methanol with CaO.
Thanks you a lot!
+Juan José Rodríguez That is unnecessary, you can make anhydrous CaCl2 simply by heating CaCl2 x 6H2O.
Can I use iron shavings?
why dont you use a vacuum pump with the simple drying method that way the oxygen contact will be minimal
+PlanetEngineering Official I said that right in the video.
NurdRage my bad i tought you mean something else ,sorry
now make chlorine trifluoride :U
Face reveal if someone donates 1000$?
you should mix ammonia and bleach
Is this what blacksmiths use to etch metals and reveal the patterns of pattern welds?
+Paul Fries No, that's ferric chloride (Fe III), usually dissolved in water
Ah thanks
very nice using the iron nails as oxygen getters :)
Can you show how to make iron oxide and if you could purify it for thermite
+Yousef Almujaly already have in a previous video.
+NurdRage thanks for replying, love your vids man👍🏻
Fe + 2HCl + 2CH3OH → FeCl2 + CH4 + H2O
Why this reaction is not occured ?
+Fatih Enes Kuru your equation is unbalanced, even then, there is no reason it should occur, the acid would react with the iron and release hydrogen gas far more easily than reducing methanol
Dear nerd rage I am looking to make polypeptide bonds between 2 amino acids at home, could I use HCL to hydrolyse the 2 amines and is there a way to couple the functional groups with easily available reagents? Thank you so much.
You're out of luck. Modern peptide synthesis requires toxic reagents. Look up Solid phase peptide synthesis for more info.
+T. B He said easily available.. Not Non-Toxic. Acid-Base Hydrolysis using crude chemicals?
nerdalert226
They're the same thing. You need licenses to buy the toxic reagents. Hydrolysis refers to the cleavage of an amide bond not the formation. You're thinking of an entirely different process where the formation is much harder to achieve.
Licenses? What country do you live in?
gold fish in liquid nitrogen
claims you must do outside. can see floor tiles in background.
+Daniel Walshe "outside or in a fume hood" I have a fume hood.
Can I make HCl gas with NaCl and muriatic acid?
Lol why are people who watch nerd rage so uneducated
Guys wondering if you could help in the sand casting world we need bentone 34 to make k-bond casting sand it's an oil based sand instead of green sand problem is bentone is really hard to get your hands on if you could do a video on how to alter bentonite clay into bentone it would be really appreciated I have no idea where to even start
What does that even mean
+ficolas2 bentone 34 is made from bentonite clay something about changing ions or the structure of the clay I don't know chemistry all I know is bentone 34 is made from bentonite and I wanna know how to do it to make oil bonded casting sand
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What purpose does the methanol serve?
+Erika Sandstrom You could use water in the reaction as well, but because the boiling point of methanol is much lower you can boil it off much faster when you need to.
+Erika Sandstrom
Are you related to Darude Sandstorm?
Dj Ruccy no
+Erika Sandstrom what Bakmoon said :)
Erika Sandstrom
Oh ok.
could aqueous ferrous chloride be dried under an inert atmosphere to keep it from oxidizing, or does it decompose/react with its water at the required temperatures?
+Robert Szasz if you can do it under inert atmosphere that would be a lot better. Although if you were working on that level you probably aren't an amateur and can afford to buy anhydrous ferrous chloride directly :)
It's almost always cheaper to buy common chemicals, but welding grade gasses are pretty cheap. If you haven't already done so making an oxygen scavenger/ gas dryer the low cost but high labor way could be very interesting.
Does anyone know if the same reaction can be performed in ethanol or acetone instead of methanol? Just worried about methanol fumes and general safety, plus I have a pile of ethanol and can get acetone but methanol's not very accessible.
In the next video he'll be making methamphetamine
trapgodzilla :: making meth is pathetically simple
doesnt the stopper get stuck when putting it on a hot flask?
Laboratory grade glassware (typically borosilicate) has a very low coefficient of thermal expansion so it's very unlikely. This is one of the reasons lab glass is so expensive.
That can happen yes. As long as it won't influence onward synthesis you can use silicone grease to help prevent the joints jamming under reduced pressure. Alternatively use a hot air gun on the joint. Options if these fail to work tend to get messy.
That can happen yes. As long as it won't influence onward synthesis you can use silicone grease to help prevent the joints jamming under reduced pressure. Alternatively use a hot air gun on the joint. Options if these fail to work tend to get messy.
That can happen yes. As long as it won't influence onward synthesis you can use silicone grease to help prevent the joints jamming under reduced pressure. Alternatively use a hot air gun on the joint. Options if these fail to work tend to get messy.
Sorry about the spamming there, some sort of error message came up and lots of repeats.
Love the voice modifier.
+Olegach21 no, it isn't
Pretty sure it's his actual voice folks. What would he gain by distorting it? He's an educational channel, and his videos are high quality. Deep voice people do exist.
I'm guessing he masks his voice because he doesn't want "fame" in real life. or to protect his identity