Star Trek: 10 Terrible Ways To Time Travel
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- Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
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At least Archer didn't Quantum Leap in the past. "Oh boy!"
At least Trip Tucker didn't have to time travel with the Romulans when he supposedly died.
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Honestly, I hated Enterprise when it first aired but I’m appreciating the series much more now that time/space has expanded.
Spoiler: Archer was Sam Beckett the whole time😮
Where's Al? 😆
somewhere, somewhen in a production meeting
Scott: "so, you said you're gonna switch it up a bit the next season. what have you got in store."
EP: "Timetravel."
Scott: "Oh Boy.."
I would include the Devidian portal in Time's Arrow as well. It did lead to Data being decapitated. 🙂
Right. An alien snake that opens a portal. I mean come on.
The Devidians were some damned nasty aliens. Good thing they existed slightly out of temporal phase with our universe...🤪
@@charlestaylor253Indeed they are. I always thought they had a bit of a Lovecraftian quality to them, in that they looked and felt truly alien and menacing, especially in their true form.
Poor Mrs. Carmichael never got to play Titania! 😤
Slingshot time travel was actually first seen in Naked Time when after cold starting the warp core the ship used the breaking planet to travel exactly one week before they got to the planet. Yes the third kirk and crew episode had time travel.
Naked Time wasn't a slingshot maneuver. The cold matter-antimatter implosion created the first seen-in-Trek time warp. Slingshot generates the time warp by moving through a strong gravity field at high warp speeds.
@@arbjbornk now describe the time warp again. You pretty much described both events in the second part of your comment. It's just a planetary body has less of an effect on spacetime so the warping effect wasn't as powerful.
Hrrrm... The Naked Time was a distinctively different form of technobabble than Tomorrow is Yesterday. Not slingshot.
Almost forgot... Dorothy Fontana was writing TIY thinking that TNT was part one, but that idea was kiboshed. Hence two distinctive forms of time travel.
using a Delorean that runs its flux capacitor on uranium, only to deplete it on a trip to 1955 so you have to judge a bolt of lightning to the millsecond in order to generate the 1.21 gigawatts if needs to power the flux capacitor and get you back to the future! Marty didn't have access to nuclear wessels, even though everyone in 1955 Hill Valley seems to think he jumped ship in his "life preserver"
Except that the "Mark 1" time travelling Delorean in the first installment of the "Back to the Future" trilogy runs the flux capacitor on plutonium, presumably because this has the extremely high energy density required to produce the 1.21 Jiggawatt pulse. The only type of uranium which has similar properties would be highly enriched "weapons grade" uranium, with at least 80% of the fissile isotope U-235.
Of course in the second installment, the Delorean doesn't need plutonium or any other fissile isotopes any more: The "Mr. Fusion" generator is remarkably versatile with respect to what it can use as fuel - it can apparently use a combination of stale beer and banana skins, plus anything else you can find in a typical rubbish bin.
Ah, but there is a method from Voyager you forgot. In Season 1's Time and Again, Janeway and Paris accidentally go back in time during an away mission while trying to find out what caused a pre-warp civilization to suddenly go extinct while they were scanning it. Turns out it was their own rescue that was set to do them all in. Realizing it, Janeway aborts the rescue from her end and the loop collapses. Things go about as if the entire adventure never happened, but I'm pretty sure there's still a Janeway and Paris on that planet based on multiverse theory.
I agree, that point should have created a new universe imho, tho given that then all they have to do is wait a while longer and be able to contact voyager that entered that planetary system
@@Astrorenity They may not have been able to, honestly. They could have been knocked out in the end and missed their chance. The Janeway on the ship was happy to just do a little scanning and get back on the path to home. So, yeah. That's my POV.
@@silversonic1 very good point XD
Wish you include the chroniton radiation that exposed Kes, which cause her to travel randomly backwards in time to various points in her own life.
I recently re-watched "Future's End" for the first time since childhood, and while it was a hoot and a half seeing a young Sarah Silverman swoon over Tom Paris, the end of the episode was _just awful._ "Oh, we have a temporal paradox and we know that Voyager chasing after the timeship will cause it to be destroyed and blamed for the temporal incident! How do we stop it? Uh... chase after the timeship and blow it up? Paradox solved?"
What about the DS9 episode where they beam into the past and Sisko replaces that other guy. Also, the time portal in that old TOS episode? Oh the other DS9 episode where Sisko is following Jake through time.
Been binge watching DS9 last few weeks. I now understand the OBrien must suffer comments. My goodness, they abuse that poor man! And a near insufferable wife to top it off!
In my opinion, Chief O'Brien suffered the most from Kejko's moods ...
The man had a wife everyone wants to divorce.
It takes a man as fine as Miles to know that he's not afraid to love a woman with moods. You'll possibly never know how great it is to love a woman who isn't required to smile all the time, but Miles knows. So do I.
@@m-a-l-3000 Even when she got morphed into a kiddo, she was still insufferable...
9 seconds in, and I've got a smile on my face. Thank you Sean for that delivery, and to whichever writer contributed it.
Ethan H Calk (the writer behind Visionary and Children of Time) also wrote screenplays for ST: Renegades and ST: Of Gods and Men, which are arguably the best Star Trek fan films out there!
Pretty sure the worst methods of time travel would have to be a snake-head cane that feeds on human life energy, a winged mech suit commonly mistake for a "Red Angel", and the laziest named plot device ever; Klingon "Time Crystals"
Look--I Stan _Discovery_ but they *should not* have used the term "Time Crystal," which describes a real (and super boring, if you're not a condensed matter physicist) phenomenon.
One thing that should be mentioned about the Nexus us that the 39.1 year cycle might have been disrupted by Soran's attempts to return by destroying the Amargosa and Veridian Stars, So now anyone who wants to use it to time travel will need to recalculate the cycle that it passes through the Milky Way galaxy, and that could take decades or even centuries.
I'm inclined to believe the "historical research" was a bonus to testing the slingshot effect; the accidentally used slingshot to travel back in time by accident, so Starfleet might have asked them to try to replicate it and given them the "historical research" submission to complete if it succeeded.
the perfect line , one of the funniest in star trek ever especially with drunk troi and zerfram cochrane pissed to the eyeballs.
remember, there is the right way, the wrong way and the Janeway
you forgot the portal from the Strange New Worlds/Lower Decks: "The portal is trying to portal me!!"
How about the ordinary flow of time if you're a Trekkie waiting for part II of Unification or Best of Both Worlds after epic part I cliffhangers
Re: Daniels. I'm actually inclined to think Daniels is a great idea with bad execution. For example, I'd love to see a Daniels-esque background character on Lower Decks who just shows up in the background for most of the season and we see him fixing and/or breaking things as the plot requires. Did someone's goofing off endanger the ship? ~Daniels fixes it before the ship explodes. Would the captain have to leave behind a member of her crew? ~Daniels sabotages the warp engines so they don't leave before they find him. Of course, the joke is that you don't know any of this until the episode where they're featured prominently; for the other episodes they're just a background character. And because they're merely a background character w/o any lines, you don't need to pay anyone to be that character until they get a spotlight episode.
What about the temporal rift that trapped the Boseman and then the D in a time loop of mutual destruction?
In the TOS episode "The Nake Time", they travelled back three days when they mixed the anti-matter at a colder temperature than normal.
Voyager 1.6. A stable wormhole to the alpha quadrant . Perfect!. Except it's microscopic and the other end of it is in Romulan space, in the past, where the Hostile romulans were even more hostile.
Slingshot around the sun at Warp 10 is the more traditional method.
That was, of course, before they turned Warp 10 into infinite velocity. Thankfully no salamander babies to mess up the past here.
a crew full of salamanders oh boy.
Just one of many reasons Scott sounded so worried in another episode when he reported, of the Enterprise, "She's a Projectile! At Warp 9!"
Honorable mention: “The Sound of Her Voice” where your comm signal travels into the future, giving you hope of rescue, only for your rescuers to find your long dead corpse!
Surprised you didn't mention that Mr. Atoz is a play on "a to - WE KNOW!!!
Geez, sorry...
So I guess using the Orb of Time is fine and dandy if you have someone around who knows how to use Bajoran orbs and you tell everyone affected that you are going to use it in the first place... Got it!
I know it was a very small comment, but YES, we still have local libraries, yes, they are alive and well (as least where I live) and they are very much trying to keep up with the times.
And no, the librarians I know are nothing like the shush-happy librarian in (was it in the outtake?) the movie "Insurrection." Maybe a bit closer to Atoz.
Time travel is always tricky and dangerous. It's just that some methods are more bad than others.
The Nexus while hard to get into is by far the best...live an eternity as happy as you want to be, and when you tire of immortality, simply return to the real world in whatever time you find most interesting and live one last adventure before dying finally.
I just thought of this: The time traveler La'an encounters at the beginning of Strange New Worlds' S2 E3 should have been Daniels.
The timeline is so unstable in the startrek universe that you could probably find yourself flung back into earths pre-industrial era by stubbing your toe during a sonic shower. 🤔
For the fifth time.
The Atavicron also would create a degrading loop as people from the future would change the timeline. If the Atavicron was invented again in the new timeline different people would go back to change the timeline again.
I'd add that DS9 episode where Molly in that cave and goes back and when they being her back she's a feral adult.
I always like the ending of the Voyager episode "Timeless". When it comes to making sense of temporal paradoxes, Don't even try.
I just noticed Daniel’s temporal tricorder looks a lot like the 15th Doctor’s new Sonic!
The Nexus always bugged me. Play along: imagine you are in the Nexus and you want to go back in time, as this is creating a barrier to you being happy. Couldn't the Nexus make it seem like you went back in time -- since this is your greatest wish -- but, you will still be firmly in the Nexus. You can live your life -- right, Captain? -- and go on as if nothing happened, but still be entrapped.
So, explain to me how we truly know Picard and Kirk left the Nexus? And, if that can't be proven, why didn't some writer deal with this already?
yeah, Picard could wake up in a bed in Kansas.....with all his crew around him...."you were there, and you were there! Worf, you were Scarecrow, and Data, you're the tin woodsman!" and Q was the Wizard of Oz (for real!).
There's a fan-created theory that Kirk and Picard actually never left the Nexus.
Look it up...🤪
OK so are there any GOOD ways to time travel? Time machine disguised as a 1960's police box perhaps?
Nah, nobody would watch an SF series as dumb as that...
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PICARD: "I know exactly where I want to go, back to Veridian III, just before Soran destroyed the star..."
GUINAN: "Really? Are your sure? I did say ANYwhere and ANY time. You don't want to go back a day or two? Maybe to when Soran was actually ON your ship?
PICARD: "No 5 minutes is all I need."
GUINAN: "I mean, then you could just throw him in the brig, that would save Geordi, the Enterprise, defeat the Duras sisters, and save millions of people all in one move."
Picard: "Just give me Kirk and 5 minutes."
Guinan: "You could even go back a whole week, do all that AND save your family from that fire? I'm just saying--"
PICARD: "JUST 5 MINUTES!"
To the crew of the Relativity, I hope there aren't alternate timelines being created when you abduct people from the past and then they accidentally die. If so, I hope you can fix those timelines somehow... You are kind meant to at least fix the current timeline after all... Oh no. Current. Flow... of time... I'm getting a Janeway headache.
As far as being stuck in the past none of these beat the captain of that ship in Voyager trying to restore his empire and family though.
I dunno... as long as the two of us were getting along, I’d let Q send me whenever. Seems like leaving it up to an omnipotent being would be the safest way.
Yes, I remember “All our Yesterdays”, with a librarian called “Mr A to Z”…
Those disc's looked like our cds and dvds today. Did they get the idea for our cds and dvds from this? I had the idea from watching the movie "Fahrenheit: 41" that the interactive video screen might have led to the Zoom app., something they was quite helpful during the Covid crisis for keeping in touch and watching our Church services or school teachers.
@@virginiaconnor8350 well they must have gotten the ideal of cell phones and desktop computers from Trek (and eventually, iPads and touch-screen computer interfaces and voice activated computers and smart-homes etc).
I do wonder why the timecops of Daniels era were so bad, when they had all of the 29th century timecops experience to work with, as well as all of TNG and DS9 storyline already known by the time of Enterprise
Ships named Enterprise are a temporal menace... :P
There's a roundabout near where I live and sometimes I have to go all the way around it. When I do, I pretend I'm doing the slingshot manoeuvre from Star Trek IV and heading towards 1980s San Francisco.
Opening with that quote from First Contact
I'm surprised you didn't mention the portal as seen in "Those Old Scientists" which led to a funny meeting between Pike and Boimler.
The time warp only worked for the borg queen as she could see all possibilities. As for Spock, he is just that smart.
OMG as soon as i saw the title of this video, the first thing i thought of was ‘Wiiiiiitch!’
Hey sometimes you still just got to go up to 88 miles per hour and risk it
Ah, but what about "abandoned Nausicaan time portal that only runs on a very rare metallic alloy that has a chance of exploding trying to make it"?
I prefer "vortex caused by a Na'khul warp core breach".
Thanks. 👍🏻
I see a part two in this channel's future.
Uh, anyone remember the "Guardian of Forever"? While using it didn't hurt the time travelers, it sure messed up the flow of time. It may also have created the "Mirror Universe", among other things that weren't exactly great. Though young Spock losing his pet was the worst event.
I can't believe that you missed the easter egg in the name of Mr. Atoz. He was a Librarian named "Mr. A to Z".
1:32 laughs nervously in Floridian…
I'm always up for some temporal shenanigans.
All they really needed was a good Delorian!
yeah, make sure it's the one that runs on Mr Fusion not nuclear power and make sure you have a spare jerry-can of gas in the trunk.
The slow unidirectional method of time travel is truly the worst and most conventional..
Warp in the park hahaha
I find that watching Sub Rosa seems to bend the space/time continuum for me… 🤔
One episode I hadn't seen. Now I've gota try and find it. Could I suggest you include episode numbers etc.? 🙂
Out of touch with streaming services, so took a bit to recall that though "First Contact"s Borg queen had been melted, Voyager's Borg queen may have had enough remnants come through the Twarp conduit to eventually reform a cube in the eventual Picard s3 after First Contact and Hugh/Lore and Battle of Sector 001 and Cpt Archer's Enterprise and and and what happened to Jason the Vigo not the Carpathian???
"Heart of the matter" - You cheeky bastard! Lol.
in all our yesterdays the librarian character was play by an actor who was born in Canton IL
Technically, the Slingshot seems to be the most reliable... Sure it requires a great deal of temopral knowledge and calculations - apparenty enough that a Vulcan can only do it with ample preparation time and Borg only use it if absolutely necessary. But there seem to be zero side-ffects.
#9 Atavachron.
I wonder if Emperor Georgiou's time/dimensional displacement sickness is what would've happened if the planet's population wasn't prepared by the procedure done before entering the Atavachron?
To me the #1 worst is anything that forces T'pol to watch "Rosemary's Baby" countless times!
Gdammit! I gotta go back and rewatch DS9 again...because it was fun. Thought I was done with it after the second (third??) watch.
You can never be done with it.
Mr. Atoz was an excellent name for a librarian: Mr. A to Z.
10:45 Admiral Janeway's trip to the past to bring Voyager home was always a poor ending to the series. Why she never went back to when the ship was first lost in the Delta Quadrant never made any sense to me.
They didn't mention the Guardian of Forever from TOS or the ophidian used to transport Data then more of the crew to the late 19th century California. Are those considered good methods of time travel?
Ophidian, not 'optician'...🙄
@@charlestaylor253 Oh, stupid autocorrect. Thanks for letting me know. I have corrected it.
The Guardian of Forever isn't terrible, though. Just loud.
I for one am here for all the PUNishment Jack may whip out.
I love Children of Time.
This one TIME i used a turbo charged soliton wave to get to Risa in TIME. I ended up seeing how paris and janeway became lizards that TIME😂
So, I have a theory as to why 7 couldn't have done what the queen did. Spock wasn't just a mathematical genius. Remember in the movie when one part of what he had to do included a guess? Well, as a dyslexic, I can say we tend to have a knack for big-picture thinking. I'm taking a statistics class right now for my Master's degree. Due to some oddities relating to a new online student system used, my professor has been reading me the quizzes each week. So here's where things get kind of funny. Because I don't always keep the order of things right, I come up with wildly wrong answers to problems. I get the x and y axes mixed up. If you know statistics you know how stupid that is. But I can look at the number sets and guess the answers for correlative data and R values. Like, I know the answer is wrong and even explain how it's wrong by estimating by sigth what a series of numbers are. and this isn't just 5 or ten data sets. I've done it with over 1000. It's because I can see the bigger picture. 7 is exceptional in many ways. Her photographic memory only being one. Her ability to problem solve is paramount, but I think Spock could do the math needed because of the same reason I can eyeball a couple thousand numbers in an experiment and be accurate with the R value by the nearest fraction. Imagine what I could do if I could do that, and keep the axeses straight.
Warp speed would make the gravitational "slingshot" acceleration around the sun, wouldn't it? They go like 100000km/hour with impulse engines
I need a strong drink and some asperin
If Tomorrow is Yesterday is the first on-screen example of the slingshot method, then what would you call the time travel used in "The Naked Time"?
STAR☆TREK TOS had a lot of items b4 we have them now. Two future together was a court martial of Kirk where the record video (b4 it was) was purposely deep faked to sway the verdict.
What about The Transporter and in general the Transport Buffer?
I would love to have an atavacron you could watch what happens and be sure that that’s what happened and you wouldn’t have to risk getting the plague
All Our Yesterdays time travel was flawless for the purpose it was being used for. Don't get why its on the list.
O'Brian hates temporal mechanics.
speaking of Obrien, what about the DS9 ep where Molly as a child disappears into a cave or whatever, and emerges as a young adult - that's more a time dilation thing. She disappears, spends 15 years alone, and reappears 15 years older, and for Keiko and Miles, a few minutes have passed.
@@andrewmurray1550 wibbly wobbly timey whymie.
now my head hurts
Once considered doing the TOG era of STO as a Machinima. Cursing Daniels would have been a running gag threw the show if I had gone threw with the idea. Sadly the voice actors I wanted for it where not available...
A Librarian named Mr Atoz .... Mr A to Z ....!
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Bad intermix by Spock as a solution somehow didn't make the list?
A librarian named A to Z. And no mention. 😂
Could episodes like "Patterns of Force" and "A Piece of the Action" be considered time travel episodes? Just an odd thought. Cheers....
Mr Atoz as in A TO Z well they are in a library
*_What happened to Daniels in that scene??_* (the one at the end where hes all deformed??)
_I cant remember!?_
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The Envoy got better.
No mention of Yesterday's Enterprise and the whole Tasha-Commander Sela corundrum?
The problem there isn’t the method of time travel?
@@KristenK78 If it takes a barrage of photon explosions in one spot from multiple ships to tear open a temporal rift.... I'd say that qualified as a terrible way to time travel. 😀
Mr. AtoZ
Mr Atoz is Mr 'A to Z'
You forgot to mention Tyken's Rift. Running onto a Tyken's Rift is a very bad way to time travel because you get caught in a never ending time loop in which your ship gets destroyed over and over again.
Tyken’s rift had nothing whatsoever to do with time travel. You are thinking of the episode Cause and Effect… two different phenomena
Being trapped in a Tyken's Rift causes a certain point in time to repeat ad infinitum. Not travel to either the past or future...🙄
Yeah, my bad. I _was_ thinking of S5E18: Cause and Effect in which the Enterprise, having entered _"The Typhon Expanse"_ , entered _"temporal causality loop"_ created due to a collision with USS Bozeman from the 23rd century (Captain Frasier Crane commanding 😁 ) after it suddenly emerged from _"a highly localized distortion of the space-time continuum"_ . They were destroyed and thrown back in time to experience the same time over and over again. Crashing into another starship is a helluva way to go time-traveling.
I hate time travel in Star Trek. This isn't Doctor Who, I like my Star Trek to feel more realistic.
The Duplicate Club! Who else is a member?