*NOTE: The location of FGC-892 and the M-class planet from "By Any Other Name" can be resolved on this map from Star Trek Maps: www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/blueprints/startrek-maps/0004.jpg Big thanks to @Geovideo333 for providing that resource! (And helping me find the real location of Omicron Delta from season 1)! Become a patron at www.patreon.com/orangeriver or a member by clicking the "Join" button on my channel page to download a 16k render of the map I made for this series!
What I find werid is that VOY admits that Super nova's only happen in Milky Way galaxy about once or twice a century. But in TOS it happens like 6 times. Also stars that can go nova are super giants and have life spans measured in millions of years, no where near long enough for complex to evolve. The only work around I can see is either something unknown (or known in universe but unknown to the viewer) is destabilizing G-K stars. Or nova is another term for going Red Giant phase which G-K stars will enter after few billion years.
You know when you read a fantasy book and they have a map in the front, and throughout the book you're just flipping back and forth trying to figure out where the characters are? This is that, on klingon steroids
@@bethanygee6939 I actually had to break out the map and show where everyone was going in Lord of the Rings to get the message across of what a miracle it was that the movie worked out the way it did.
@@shaindaman13 Normies tend to geek out all the time on false information, they just call it news instead of fiction. Unfortunately most of them wouldn't be able to find anything on the map of the planet thy actually live on.
It would be neat to see this for other series, especially Voyager. The Deadly Years rapid aging was not an experiment gone wrong, but radiation from a comet.
@@michaelmachiavelli No, that would be a map from missions of the Defiant and other ships. I want to see see DS9 sit in one spot for a couple years, move to cover the wormhole and sit there till the show ends.
The Scalosians didn't have to kidnap Kirk as breeding stock. They could just have had someone buy him a drink, admire his ship, need help in his general vicinity, involve him in a fight....
I feel like the Vulcans (given their central location to the TOS misadventures) could have spared the crew from a lot of misery. Especially odd that they wouldn't warn them of super powerful local entities to avoid. Jus sayin....
I always thought the Vulcans were just the most oblivious aliens in star trek. I figured they pay attention to absolutely nothing and notice almost nothing they didn't even know the romulans existed, even though they're the same race with a shared history.
@@OrangeRiver Really good work here, overall! I'd be interested to see some TNG worlds handled. Or maybe the New Frontier novels? (Some fans put their Sector 221-G near to the Typhon Expanse, as I recall) As for Daran II, it's placed in the novel Ex Machina, by Christopher L. Bennett, far on the other side of Romulan space, and practically almost to Beta Stromgen, for that matter. Part of the Lantaru sector, that Voyager once alluded to (in 'The Omega Conspiracy' I believe) I've also been trying to partially sort out the Sector system, which is, not to put too fine a point on it, a major headache at times. Generally each sector has two, three, four or five digits, but presumably they are usually a short-hand for the five digit one. Ones near Earth and the core Federation tend to begin with 211**, a few with 22***, and some around the far end of Romulan space may begin with 23***. Sectors far to the 'north' end tend to be lower numbers, below 20000. Conversely, Beta Stromgren is placed in Sector 25434, but the Mutara sector is supposedly Sector 25712, and far to the rimward end of Klingon space. Mind you, notes in Memory Alpha are very erratic, concerning details for that sector, however you locate it. Anyway, very impressed!
I really hope you add the path of the Enterprise during the TOS movies and really every series eventually. DS9 will prove interesting, and Voyager’ll need so many separate insets. Enterprise would be particularly interesting to overlay onto the TOS map.
The route of the original Enterprise is a question I’ve never had, and now that it’s been answered, I can say that there’s a lot of zig-zagging throughout the galaxy, and a lot of downtime between some planets.
What an endeavor! Thank you so much for doing this! It would be massively larger of a project, but I would love to see TNG maps like this. I do wish we could see what the course was of the TNG crew, but I doubt that project will ever happen. 7 years of start charts would be a tough sell. Thank you again, Tyler!❤
This is amazing. I actually used to sit at an old drafting desk when I was 8-9 years old and not only draw out my own deck plans, but maps. I even used the "map" from the TOS NES game and put it on my chart.
I presume to get to Gamma Hydra 4 they went *around* Romulan territory. Edit: I take this back: I fell for the 2D trap (like Kahn did in STII:TWoK). For all I know the planet could be well "above" or "below" Romulan territory.
First Junkball with the Jenolan, then We Travel By Night with a Phase 2 Enterprise Video, next you with the Enterprise route for seasons 2 and 3, today is a good day for Trek Content
Another banger map video! Hopefully you continue to do this and your videos will be used for a star chart book that allows for people to make Star Trek stories that are more accurate
Regardless of any issues or questions of accuracy, I really enjoy these episodes. Thank you for indulging this map-loving nerd lol. God be with you out there everybody. ✝️ :)
TNG, definitely! But probably after I finish my retrospective series. As for DS9, maybe--there's not as much to do (perhaps some of their exploits in the Gamma Quadrant), but I've always wanted to map the Dominion War!
Really awesome video, we can see the amount of work that has gone into this. It must have been challenging at times to get your head around things. It's been presented as clearly as it can be given how complex a subject it is. As I've said before your material is always great, whether it be Star Trek, Mass Effect or, erm... Star Trek, but be proud of what you've accomplished.
Admirable effort and a good best guess. However, Reality has to creep in. There was a so called writers guide that laid out how to write an episode of Star Trek. And it was deliberately vague only a mission statement as to what sort of stories Roddenberry wanted but giving the authors a it of leeway on how to tell that story. First casualty was any sense of scientific accuracy bolstered by actual sci-fi writers who knew a thing or two about space and physics and hacks who knew jack about science but could tell a good story. Early on the Enterprise was zipping along at often unmentioned speeds and introduced by that infamous Star Date captains log. Again, another nebulous concept of trying to keep chronological order. The writers were advised just to just make stuff up but keep it within a six digit format. The same went for naming rights. And this is where we get a lot of confusion. Actual sci-fi writers would use real locations while the regular writing staff would just make up names on the fly. As long as it sounded "right" it was okay. This also caused a continuity error in figuring out warp drive speeds as they travelled hundreds of light years in days if not weeks. And then months travelling at sublight exploring strange new worlds. I think the most egregious is Vulcan. If it were that close contact would have been made sooner.
Just as a post script what really killed the canon was the latter additions in the franchise. Or the mere neglect it had on where no man had gone before and cherry picking Trek lore for fan service . TNG was awful for this. The films even worse. Best example of bad stellar cartography is the Federation Flag itself.
I always found it odd that the Federation would have that seperate area ‘behind’ Klingon and Romulan space. Seems like it’d be fairly easy for either of those to cut it off from the rest of the Federation.
@@captainufo4587 I get that space doesn’t look like the map in the video, maybe there’s a lot of Federation space above and below, but seems like it wouldn’t be that hard for the Romulans/Klingons to block access by going up or down into whatever Federation space passes them?
@@mb2000 How do you do that? There's no limit to up in space. Nor down. Even considering the barrier and that the galaxy is much more wider than it's thick, there's quite a lo of thickness to deal with. If they can't blockade horizontally, they can't blockade vertically either.
The problem is time and distance by speed to reach each. If the adventures did happen in 3-5 years, warp top speed of Warp 7 would take 4-7 weeks or 6-9 weeks around the Netrul Zone. That's my guess.
I'm not a massive Trek fan, but your breakdowns and takes are comprehensive, accurate and produced very well which keeps me coming back to learn about the franchise. I think I only disliked what I perceived as intersectional politics in your prime directive video but I watched it all and it was good. Interesting vid though, please keep up the good work.
Okay so I haven't seen the video yet but I wanted to ask you a question and thought that it might make part of a broader video on the ethical treatment of AI in Star Trek. (It'll give you an excuse to showcase some of Robert Picardo's excellent acting, including when the doctor falls apart after choosing to save one life over another). Do you think that by programming Data to "desire" to become more human, Soong was basically just torturing him? It was a thought I had recently after watching Picard, and I was curious about your take on it.
All I know is the original crew traveled to both the far edge of the galaxy and the very center of the galaxy during their lifetimes. And this was long before Voyager.
The second season's route was easier to get than the first season's.. Third season, dunno. Anyways, lots of work, this surely took a while and more than one headache. Have you done the voyager's route?
Great job! Interesting to see how clustered together most of the stars are. Perhaps some of the outliers were special missions where indications of intelligent life had been identified by Federation astronomers?
This is all assuming that TOS shows every one of the Enterprise's adventures. Stargate SG-1 is explicitly not that way, it's confirmed on screen that the show covers maybe 1/3 of the team's adventures.
I love beautiful maps and you're right, this is a pretty complete map from what I've seen over the years 🙂 I wonder if you could get a licensing deal from Paramount for your map...
Where do you get these weird pronunciations for Star systems from? “Altair” is just “Al-tear” (“tear” as in to rip something; not the tear that comes from an eye). And Eridani is “Erih-danny.”
@@OrangeRiver I mean if ya want to ok. A few star names were "wrong." In Trek they did mispronounce star names like Eridani. You technically pronounced that right for us but not in Trek. Eridanee instead of Eridni. Sort of how Gemini and Geminee during the Space Race. Canaris is off. I don't know the pronunciation phonetics to write down how to say it correctly without having to go to a source. Kaitos is off. I also have the unfortunate burden of growing up in a medical family so Latin words mispronounced get to me.
Ok well I don't have a background in Latin, I'm doing my best. Glad you're enjoying the content mate, just know that people saying I mispronounced something is one of my biggest RUclips pet peeves. It's in my opinion an empty criticism. This isn't directed just at you but in general
@@OrangeRiver I can understand where you're coming from on that. It's also impossible to get tone or inflection through plain text. So some people who are just trying to help you get it right next time, might look like they are being sarcastic or insulting if you only have a yt comment to go by. Like your first comment here. It could be easy to take it harshly. Which is why I didn't comment back right away. Some paraphrased stoic wisdom. You are the only person who has the power to offend yourself, don't let yourself get offended. Instead of seeing the comments on your mispronunciations, take them all as constructive criticism. Even the ones you know are trying to be insulting. I do like your content. I'm not sure that anyone has attempted to plot the Enterprise's course during the TOS. Eh, I don't really have any education in Latin. I grew up with medical professional parents and I have worked in the medical field in some capacity ever since my first job. Only because I have been exposed to it my entire life does it bother me hearing it pronounced wrong. Thank You for understanding my comment and responding to me. I honestly wasn't trying to bash you or anything like that. I even brought up that some of the names are spoken wrong in the show to show that you did get it right for us, just not the Federation. LOL. Keep it up and I'm looking forward to the next video.
This video was awesome! I had no idea Star Trek was this consistent with locations. One thing that I have found really strange is how during DS9 the Alpha Quadrant became synonymous with so many races, Federation and otherwise, that are actually in the Beta Quadrant... yet the Beta Quadrant is rarely mentioned. Even the Romulans talk about the Dominion War as being an Alpha Quadrant thing.
Also it has annoyed me for a long time that astronomers won't adopt the Star Trek quadrant system, they use a different one where our solar system is the center... way too heliocentric for modern times if you ask me.
Wonderful content as always! I hope you continue this into TNG and beyond. Though, DS9 is easily my favorite Trek, it would be rough lol. I have no love of Voyager, but a series charting their journey would be pretty rad. Not to mention Enterprise! Thanks for all the hard work fella!
If you do the Kirk-era films, it should be relatively easy to catalog...at least until you get to Star Trek V. I asked if you were going to cover the animated series, but with Star Trek Picard coming to an end, I hope you cover the Picard's journey with the Enterprise-D during all of TNG. (At the end of the Video: Never mind, you answered my question! Cool!! Can't wait to see them)
In TOS, the Enterprise had gone absurd distances and if we want to make sense of the distance they’ve made; blame the monkeys who built the Enterprise-A.
It's also possible that the Ardanians just "paused" slavery in order to be admitted to the Federation and resumed the practice some time after. One might argue that the Federation would have done something about it, but that's politics.
I find it hard to follow the jump to the next location. Maybe that's what mouse cursors are for, you can see it and then know where on the map the narrator is talking of. AND I my monitor is a 65" LG OLED TV in 4K even. I appear to be the only one bringing this up however.
Years from now you'll look back on this project and say "Wow, that was worth it, but it sucked how much time I had to put in to it." When I first attempted to do this it was the early 80's and Star Trek Maps was all we had and , at that time, what we thought was all we needed. Naive. hahaha. We were using pins in the wall with strings attached (actually flouresenct pink yarn) . Hail to the digital world !!!. However, it became apparent to us, even then, that what we needed was a 3D representation because, after all, space is in 3D, and even that is up for debate. Very well done. The old Trekkers are still watching and glad to find those that still 'keep the faith'. Peace, and long life.
As I will bring up in my upcloming Star Map video, Scalos is said to be in an Outer Quadrent of the Galaxy, while two episodes later they say Cheron is in a quaredent in the southern most part of the galaxy. So I just assume that all three worlds are in Vernal Quadrent 4. Something I willl explain in the video I am working on.
It's actually never stated for a fact in The Tholian Web that that episode is the first time that the Federation has made contact with the Tholians. And Spock even remarks in that episode about "renown Tholian punctuality!" Which would certainly seem to strongly suggest that the two have had prior contact with each other. Your defintely right about the fact that the galactic map from Conspiracy has some real gaffes in it. It even has Pollux 4 and the Beta Gemanora system as two totally different systems. However, they are actuallly the same system! The map also has a number of other mistakes.
*NOTE: The location of FGC-892 and the M-class planet from "By Any Other Name" can be resolved on this map from Star Trek Maps: www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/blueprints/startrek-maps/0004.jpg Big thanks to @Geovideo333 for providing that resource! (And helping me find the real location of Omicron Delta from season 1)! Become a patron at www.patreon.com/orangeriver or a member by clicking the "Join" button on my channel page to download a 16k render of the map I made for this series!
i support u all the way :)
Please continue with TAS ... you're onto a legendary series here.
I would love you to keep going with this. The movies, then TNG, and ESPECIALLY a deep dive into the Dominion war would be amazing!!!!
What I find werid is that VOY admits that Super nova's only happen in Milky Way galaxy about once or twice a century. But in TOS it happens like 6 times. Also stars that can go nova are super giants and have life spans measured in millions of years, no where near long enough for complex to evolve. The only work around I can see is either something unknown (or known in universe but unknown to the viewer) is destabilizing G-K stars. Or nova is another term for going Red Giant phase which G-K stars will enter after few billion years.
You know when you read a fantasy book and they have a map in the front, and throughout the book you're just flipping back and forth trying to figure out where the characters are? This is that, on klingon steroids
Yeah, that follows. I've done that since I read LOTR as a kid and then graduated to Trek.
No. Few of us know that. Few of us have obtained that level of Geekdom because we have in mind the Fiction aspect of the Science Fiction genre.
@@bethanygee6939 I actually had to break out the map and show where everyone was going in Lord of the Rings to get the message across of what a miracle it was that the movie worked out the way it did.
@@shaindaman13 Normies tend to geek out all the time on false information, they just call it news instead of fiction. Unfortunately most of them wouldn't be able to find anything on the map of the planet thy actually live on.
If I see a map at the front of a book, I make another selection.
Just for sheer originality and creativity on this video, you deserve every view that you get.
Yep.He's putting out original content.
Thank you sir. Can I get you a Gorn Burrito to go?
Thank you James!
It would be neat to see this for other series, especially Voyager.
The Deadly Years rapid aging was not an experiment gone wrong, but radiation from a comet.
The book Star Trek star charts already shows the voyager's (and the NX Enterprise's) routes.
I want to see a map of Deep Space 9, just sitting there for 7 years.
@@theicmnYou forget the Dominion War. You could do a whole series on the battles and territory exchanges.
@@michaelmachiavelli No, that would be a map from missions of the Defiant and other ships.
I want to see see DS9 sit in one spot for a couple years, move to cover the wormhole and sit there till the show ends.
The Scalosians didn't have to kidnap Kirk as breeding stock. They could just have had someone buy him a drink, admire his ship, need help in his general vicinity, involve him in a fight....
Or ask for a sperm donation. I don’t see how a sophisticated alien race would not know such a simple process.
This is the level of sheer nerdiness and attention to detail I've come to expect of you. Well done, sir.
Thanks David!
I forgot how charming TOS is. There's something special about the show that kept bringing smiles to my face when you brought up the episodes.
I feel like the Vulcans (given their central location to the TOS misadventures) could have spared the crew from a lot of misery. Especially odd that they wouldn't warn them of super powerful local entities to avoid. Jus sayin....
I always thought the Vulcans were just the most oblivious aliens in star trek. I figured they pay attention to absolutely nothing and notice almost nothing they didn't even know the romulans existed, even though they're the same race with a shared history.
Where no Cartographer has gone before. Great hard hitting content as always Tyler.
Thank you so much!
@@OrangeRiver Really good work here, overall!
I'd be interested to see some TNG worlds handled. Or maybe the New Frontier novels? (Some fans put their Sector 221-G near to the Typhon Expanse, as I recall)
As for Daran II, it's placed in the novel Ex Machina, by Christopher L. Bennett, far on the other side of Romulan space, and practically almost to Beta Stromgen, for that matter. Part of the Lantaru sector, that Voyager once alluded to (in 'The Omega Conspiracy' I believe)
I've also been trying to partially sort out the Sector system, which is, not to put too fine a point on it, a major headache at times.
Generally each sector has two, three, four or five digits, but presumably they are usually a short-hand for the five digit one.
Ones near Earth and the core Federation tend to begin with 211**, a few with 22***, and some around the far end of Romulan space may begin with 23***. Sectors far to the 'north' end tend to be lower numbers, below 20000.
Conversely, Beta Stromgren is placed in Sector 25434, but the Mutara sector is supposedly Sector 25712, and far to the rimward end of Klingon space.
Mind you, notes in Memory Alpha are very erratic, concerning details for that sector, however you locate it.
Anyway, very impressed!
I really hope you add the path of the Enterprise during the TOS movies and really every series eventually. DS9 will prove interesting, and Voyager’ll need so many separate insets. Enterprise would be particularly interesting to overlay onto the TOS map.
The route of the original Enterprise is a question I’ve never had, and now that it’s been answered, I can say that there’s a lot of zig-zagging throughout the galaxy, and a lot of downtime between some planets.
What an endeavor! Thank you so much for doing this!
It would be massively larger of a project, but I would love to see TNG maps like this.
I do wish we could see what the course was of the TNG crew, but I doubt that project will ever happen. 7 years of start charts would be a tough sell.
Thank you again, Tyler!❤
Glad you enjoyed the video! I'm already planning on making TNG map videos, but yeah it's gonna be a time commitment! Lol. Will probably be awhile.
@@OrangeRiver that's awesome!!! Best of luck with the project. 😀
This is amazing. I actually used to sit at an old drafting desk when I was 8-9 years old and not only draw out my own deck plans, but maps. I even used the "map" from the TOS NES game and put it on my chart.
I presume to get to Gamma Hydra 4 they went *around* Romulan territory.
Edit:
I take this back: I fell for the 2D trap (like Kahn did in STII:TWoK). For all I know the planet could be well "above" or "below" Romulan territory.
First Junkball with the Jenolan, then We Travel By Night with a Phase 2 Enterprise Video, next you with the Enterprise route for seasons 2 and 3, today is a good day for Trek Content
I absolutely love this idea and I'm SO EXCITED that this is a multi episode project.
BRAIN AND BRAIN, WHAT IS BRAIN?
Classic.
Ay the question for 99% of Americans
To boldly map where no map has mapped before.
Interesting. Maybe you can do the mapping of Red Dwarf so we can see where the smeggers made their way through the galaxy.
@@subraxas And Talky Toaster! But it would good for a hoot compared to the mapping out the original Enterprises travels.
Another banger map video! Hopefully you continue to do this and your videos will be used for a star chart book that allows for people to make Star Trek stories that are more accurate
I need some new space weed to understand this.
Thank you for going through with the map of Enterprise's trek.
Regardless of any issues or questions of accuracy, I really enjoy these episodes. Thank you for indulging this map-loving nerd lol.
God be with you out there everybody. ✝️ :)
@@subraxas I'm happy to be here. This has become one of my favorite channels.
Great job - as soon as I can - money is very thigh as my car just died and I’ve gotta get a new one - but outstanding work
Well done! Look forward to the TAS maps, and the rest.
400 ly away!…. That would take weeks!! at high warp
This is awesome! Are there plans to do this for TNG and DS9 as well?
TNG, definitely! But probably after I finish my retrospective series. As for DS9, maybe--there's not as much to do (perhaps some of their exploits in the Gamma Quadrant), but I've always wanted to map the Dominion War!
Woo Hoo! (*du da, da du na na, da do do do do) WOO HOO ... (Like, as in Blur - Song 2 ... Get it, Get it, huh? Huh, 😅
Really awesome video, we can see the amount of work that has gone into this. It must have been challenging at times to get your head around things. It's been presented as clearly as it can be given how complex a subject it is. As I've said before your material is always great, whether it be Star Trek, Mass Effect or, erm... Star Trek, but be proud of what you've accomplished.
Thanks James!
Whenever I hear about Canopus, I think of Dune. Canopus III is Arrakis.
Totally agree, Spock's Brain.....😁😂🤣.
“They’ve got Spock’s Brain!” McCoy says with the stern weighty seriousness like it’s the Caves of Androzani.
A red shirt.
Tyler´s living his life on the fastlane.
i always say hi back during the intro - anyone else do this?
Have you ever considered doing anything about "The Orville"? Just wondering :)
I have thoughts on The Orville! Just haven't turned them into a cohesive script yet ;)
Please continue with the films and other series
Admirable effort and a good best guess. However, Reality has to creep in. There was a so called writers guide that laid out how to write an episode of Star Trek. And it was deliberately vague only a mission statement as to what sort of stories Roddenberry wanted but giving the authors a it of leeway on how to tell that story. First casualty was any sense of scientific accuracy bolstered by actual sci-fi writers who knew a thing or two about space and physics and hacks who knew jack about science but could tell a good story.
Early on the Enterprise was zipping along at often unmentioned speeds and introduced by that infamous Star Date captains log. Again, another nebulous concept of trying to keep chronological order. The writers were advised just to just make stuff up but keep it within a six digit format. The same went for naming rights. And this is where we get a lot of confusion. Actual sci-fi writers would use real locations while the regular writing staff would just make up names on the fly. As long as it sounded "right" it was okay. This also caused a continuity error in figuring out warp drive speeds as they travelled hundreds of light years in days if not weeks. And then months travelling at sublight exploring strange new worlds.
I think the most egregious is Vulcan. If it were that close contact would have been made sooner.
Just as a post script what really killed the canon was the latter additions in the franchise. Or the mere neglect it had on where no man had gone before and cherry picking Trek lore for fan service . TNG was awful for this. The films even worse.
Best example of bad stellar cartography is the Federation Flag itself.
I always wondered how someone could be killed by a phaser by turning into a blue glow and fade nothing, not even any smoke.
Amazing video
I always found it odd that the Federation would have that seperate area ‘behind’ Klingon and Romulan space. Seems like it’d be fairly easy for either of those to cut it off from the rest of the Federation.
You're thinking 2D. Space is 3D. It's entirely possible that the Federation goes below the Klingon and/or Romulan Empire or vice versa.
@@captainufo4587 I get that space doesn’t look like the map in the video, maybe there’s a lot of Federation space above and below, but seems like it wouldn’t be that hard for the Romulans/Klingons to block access by going up or down into whatever Federation space passes them?
@@mb2000 How do you do that? There's no limit to up in space. Nor down. Even considering the barrier and that the galaxy is much more wider than it's thick, there's quite a lo of thickness to deal with. If they can't blockade horizontally, they can't blockade vertically either.
@@captainufo4587 I don’t know, that’s why I wonder these things.
Probably how Russia and Canada look at Alaska.
Is there a difference between Gamma Hydra Section 10 and Gamma Hydra? As Section 10 is inside the Klingon Neutral Zone.
The problem is time and distance by speed to reach each. If the adventures did happen in 3-5 years, warp top speed of Warp 7 would take 4-7 weeks or 6-9 weeks around the Netrul Zone. That's my guess.
And to think that it only took a week to get from one location to the next!
😂
thanks for your effort on TOS map
This is ace.
Amazing
A great try to make sense out of something(Space)that is moving and reshaping itself.
Thanks Jym!
Elite Dangerous is a good example if you want some b-roll of how the galaxy looks, and to explain the 3d-compression effect you were talking about.
I'm not a massive Trek fan, but your breakdowns and takes are comprehensive, accurate and produced very well which keeps me coming back to learn about the franchise. I think I only disliked what I perceived as intersectional politics in your prime directive video but I watched it all and it was good. Interesting vid though, please keep up the good work.
Okay so I haven't seen the video yet but I wanted to ask you a question and thought that it might make part of a broader video on the ethical treatment of AI in Star Trek. (It'll give you an excuse to showcase some of Robert Picardo's excellent acting, including when the doctor falls apart after choosing to save one life over another). Do you think that by programming Data to "desire" to become more human, Soong was basically just torturing him? It was a thought I had recently after watching Picard, and I was curious about your take on it.
"Lord, Garth!" :) It's really something to have put all this effort and time into creating these maps; they really help alot and explain more.
Never knew this was even possible thinking some systems were fictional with TOS. Impressive work!
How do you define First Contact? The NX-01 made contact with the Tholians when they had a future timepod onboard.
*sigh* not the first comment
All I know is the original crew traveled to both the far edge of the galaxy and the very center of the galaxy during their lifetimes. And this was long before Voyager.
I hope you do this for the other series as well. All of them. I love this.
We need this for TNG next!
The second season's route was easier to get than the first season's..
Third season, dunno.
Anyways, lots of work, this surely took a while and more than one headache.
Have you done the voyager's route?
your mustache looks like two capybaras kissing
My gawd we are nerds...I couldn't be happier :)
you're content never disappoints! you're the dopest super nerd and I appreciate you! 🖖
Thank you so much for this. I've always wanted something like this since I was young.
Great job! Interesting to see how clustered together most of the stars are. Perhaps some of the outliers were special missions where indications of intelligent life had been identified by Federation astronomers?
This is all assuming that TOS shows every one of the Enterprise's adventures. Stargate SG-1 is explicitly not that way, it's confirmed on screen that the show covers maybe 1/3 of the team's adventures.
Yes! Season 2!
Loooove this
Next you have to do animated 3D Map :)
Haha, that would be cool!
Man, those non-corporeal entities sure can be a handful!
Just watched episode 5 , crazy!
I love beautiful maps and you're right, this is a pretty complete map from what I've seen over the years 🙂 I wonder if you could get a licensing deal from Paramount for your map...
Where do you get these weird pronunciations for Star systems from? “Altair” is just “Al-tear” (“tear” as in to rip something; not the tear that comes from an eye).
And Eridani is “Erih-danny.”
Exactly
Y'all are both wrong, I pronounced them correctly. I *used to* think that they were pronounced the way you think they're supposed to be.
@subraxas "Broken Bow" was my fault, but I'm right this time lol
Can you do the 7 seasons of TNG? I would watch it.
We need a TNG star chart video. The long term diplomatic mission
Working on TNG maps right now! But it's gonna be a huge time commitment. Probably won't have any videos ready for several months.
@subraxas ?
Do you have vids on the doomsday mashine?
Not yet!
I wonder, could you do a map series for Star Trek Enterprise?
I'd like to! It'll be a little bit harder but I'm planning on it.
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So...many...mispronunciations.....
Still enjoying your content
Like what? Haha. Some of the names that people *think* I mispronounced, I actually pronounced correctly
@subraxas ?
@@OrangeRiver I mean if ya want to ok. A few star names were "wrong." In Trek they did mispronounce star names like Eridani. You technically pronounced that right for us but not in Trek. Eridanee instead of Eridni. Sort of how Gemini and Geminee during the Space Race. Canaris is off. I don't know the pronunciation phonetics to write down how to say it correctly without having to go to a source. Kaitos is off. I also have the unfortunate burden of growing up in a medical family so Latin words mispronounced get to me.
Ok well I don't have a background in Latin, I'm doing my best. Glad you're enjoying the content mate, just know that people saying I mispronounced something is one of my biggest RUclips pet peeves. It's in my opinion an empty criticism. This isn't directed just at you but in general
@@OrangeRiver I can understand where you're coming from on that.
It's also impossible to get tone or inflection through plain text. So some people who are just trying to help you get it right next time, might look like they are being sarcastic or insulting if you only have a yt comment to go by.
Like your first comment here. It could be easy to take it harshly. Which is why I didn't comment back right away.
Some paraphrased stoic wisdom. You are the only person who has the power to offend yourself, don't let yourself get offended.
Instead of seeing the comments on your mispronunciations, take them all as constructive criticism. Even the ones you know are trying to be insulting.
I do like your content. I'm not sure that anyone has attempted to plot the Enterprise's course during the TOS.
Eh, I don't really have any education in Latin. I grew up with medical professional parents and I have worked in the medical field in some capacity ever since my first job. Only because I have been exposed to it my entire life does it bother me hearing it pronounced wrong.
Thank You for understanding my comment and responding to me. I honestly wasn't trying to bash you or anything like that. I even brought up that some of the names are spoken wrong in the show to show that you did get it right for us, just not the Federation. LOL.
Keep it up and I'm looking forward to the next video.
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Awesome video (as always) 🥳
Can you please please try to do the same with the route of the Voyager? 🤭
Superb work for us Trek fans. 👍
This video was awesome! I had no idea Star Trek was this consistent with locations. One thing that I have found really strange is how during DS9 the Alpha Quadrant became synonymous with so many races, Federation and otherwise, that are actually in the Beta Quadrant... yet the Beta Quadrant is rarely mentioned. Even the Romulans talk about the Dominion War as being an Alpha Quadrant thing.
Also it has annoyed me for a long time that astronomers won't adopt the Star Trek quadrant system, they use a different one where our solar system is the center... way too heliocentric for modern times if you ask me.
@@serqetry honestly I find the whole heliocentric stuff a load of bull.
A nice surprise! I was completely forgotten I is Friday (because yesterday it was Kings Day, so a day off). Loved it, thanks Tyler!
Love these videos
What is “one of those episodes”?
One of those that sucks off America I guess lol
Wonderful content as always! I hope you continue this into TNG and beyond. Though, DS9 is easily my favorite Trek, it would be rough lol. I have no love of Voyager, but a series charting their journey would be pretty rad. Not to mention Enterprise! Thanks for all the hard work fella!
Thanks beezelbuzzel!
Great video! You did a great job mapping out everything
Thank you Oliver! It was indeed a very painstaking process
I'm sorry but I'm going to be that guy. That is not at all how you pronounce Adonis.
Actually that is (closer to) the correct pronunciation of "Adonais." Many people think it's Adonis but it's not.
This makes me want to rewatch TOS. I think I'll start to do so after the NFL Draft, tonight. 🖖
Outstanding work!
This is one of your finest work, I love what you do in general, but this is deep delve into lore, and I love it.
Thank you!
I love your channel
Great episode! You have the best, most ambitious content! 👍🖖
Thank you Geoffrey!!!
If you do the Kirk-era films, it should be relatively easy to catalog...at least until you get to Star Trek V. I asked if you were going to cover the animated series, but with Star Trek Picard coming to an end, I hope you cover the Picard's journey with the Enterprise-D during all of TNG. (At the end of the Video: Never mind, you answered my question! Cool!! Can't wait to see them)
In TOS, the Enterprise had gone absurd distances and if we want to make sense of the distance they’ve made; blame the monkeys who built the Enterprise-A.
Am i a trekkie now?
I was gonna chastise you for mispronouncing Who Mourns for Adonais. But apparently that is the correct pronunciation in other languages...
It's also possible that the Ardanians just "paused" slavery in order to be admitted to the Federation and resumed the practice some time after. One might argue that the Federation would have done something about it, but that's politics.
I find it hard to follow the jump to the next location. Maybe that's what mouse cursors are for, you can see it and then know where on the map the narrator is talking of. AND I my monitor is a 65" LG OLED TV in 4K even. I appear to be the only one bringing this up however.
Let's dive in? LET'S DIVE IN?! That's not the line! Do it right.
Years from now you'll look back on this project and say "Wow, that was worth it, but it sucked how much time I had to put in to it." When I first attempted to do this it was the early 80's and Star Trek Maps was all we had and , at that time, what we thought was all we needed. Naive. hahaha. We were using pins in the wall with strings attached (actually flouresenct pink yarn) . Hail to the digital world !!!. However, it became apparent to us, even then, that what we needed was a 3D representation because, after all, space is in 3D, and even that is up for debate. Very well done. The old Trekkers are still watching and glad to find those that still 'keep the faith'. Peace, and long life.
As I will bring up in my upcloming Star Map video, Scalos is said to be in an Outer Quadrent of the Galaxy, while two episodes later they say Cheron is in a quaredent in the southern most part of the galaxy. So I just assume that all three worlds are in Vernal Quadrent 4. Something I willl explain in the video I am working on.
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It's actually never stated for a fact in The Tholian Web that that episode is the first time that the Federation has made contact with the Tholians. And Spock even remarks in that episode about "renown Tholian punctuality!" Which would certainly seem to strongly suggest that the two have had prior contact with each other. Your defintely right about the fact that the galactic map from Conspiracy has some real gaffes in it. It even has Pollux 4 and the Beta Gemanora system as two totally different systems. However, they are actuallly the same system! The map also has a number of other mistakes.
Now, I understand why they have mapped so little. Going back each week isn't a good Idea when you are exploring.