@matty kelly youre never safe. Even if your camp is only accessable by plane. You think a fire cant be seen from the air?...in this world its very hard to hide.
@MoneyPit Jku Wrong!! Obama did the same by ordering those thousands of drone strikes and ordering the death of Bin Laden. He was able to because he was Commander in Chief
Mike Eads He is a foreign general of a country we are not at war with, that’s an act of war. If Iran killed our general we’d declare war in a heartbeat. I’m sick of people acting like America has special privileges, we aren’t the world police.
@@brock985 he was a very known terrorist that was a general of a foreign country. There will always be a War on terrorists, Kill them before they kill us. Pretty simple.
no, you're retired. Lots of people leave the CIA even mid-career. They might keep their mouths shut about old info but they lose all access to new stuff. I know.
You have no idea what you're talking about. Quit trying to make it sound all Conspiracy Theory. It's just another fucked up gov't organization like the FBI, DEA, IRS, etc.
@@jarhead21100 What for? They only run the entire world, are behind every war, and routinely murder children in the stolen land they live on. I don't get why that upsets people. The holy book they wrote says they get that land, so, case closed.
@@danarsarkawt2694 cmon really? Saddam was gassing his own citizens on a regular basis. If that’s humanity then it needs to be destroyed because that’s evil.
@@michaelshattuck1874 Dude, I'm in California where Biden supposedly beat Trump by 4 million votes yet 4 republicans on the same ticket won their seats for the first time in decades. Did 4 million people only vote Biden and nothing else down the ticket? Or did 2 million of them vote Biden but then (R) down the ticket? Because that's the only way that happens.
Its just a sentence to show how simple it is and let me tell u it is that simple ! Plus theres other reasons to make it longer . Being present in a country costed 2 buildings with 100 floors and many lives , thats enough to tell how important it was , doing it in one month and say chao ?!
Correct. 17 year of fighting al qeada, isis, Taliban, etc....These are Terrorists. It took us about a month to topple the actual Iraqi regime ran by Saddam Hussein. This would be the actual Iraqi government/regime. I hope you understand the difference now.
Half of what Soleimani has done as far as having missiles shot at Israel and wanting as much blood as possible from Americans and more so to Israel is because the CIA and Mossad took out his favorite circle jerk partner Imad Mughniyeh. Unless you don't knows how all the players are that was the Tony Soprano of Hezbollah. He had the Lebanon CIA Station Chief killed, architect of of the Beirut bombings, etc., etc. etc. Mugniyeh had more American blood on his hands at the time. Soleimani fought with the U.S. to defeat the the Taliban and when Iran was labeled a state sponsor of terror he started equipping Iraqi's to lay IED's in Iraq. Fuck both those guys. There is a Special place in hell for both of them! Mugniyeh was taken out by a car bomb in Damascus! Now his son who he named Jihad pops up every now and then. Bush gave the order to take out that Hezbollah dip shit and there was a little backlash from it. I'm a Veteran and Obama pulled us out of Iraq when the then Iraqi PM was telling us to lay off the Qud's in Iraq that were financing our death. It got really creative then. Assad emptied his jails of all Islamic nut jobs in 03 to come and fight the U.S. and when we pulled out they went back to Syria and formed ISIS! His father was anti Saddam and probably would've done the same if we went all the way to Baghdad. During the Persian Gulf War the SAS team Bravo two Zero trying to take out Scuds was running for Syria. One got out through Syria. So basically we had to go back and fight aside the Iraqi's to liberate the same cities so many Americans gave their lives to take. I'm a Libertarian now as a Civilian. I will say Clinton didn't have the balls to let Americans go kill or capture Bin Laden because of Somalia. So basically he allowed Bin Laden to arm Somali's, bomb 2 American embassies, and the first World Trade Center attack, the USS Cole and Tony Blair was the main reason the US was involved in the Former Yugoslavia where a genocide against Muslims was taking place. Where we said never again afte WW2.He went in front of Congress, not Clinton. I like blow jobs also so I can't blame the guy for getting head when Newt shut shit down. Obama would've been a hero if he killed Soleimani! Trump did and the New Left lost their shit because he listened to his Generals and used Intel to kill him. Trump is pulling troops out of these long ass wars, and killing instrumental people while Congress is basically yanking one of his balls. He is an ass but imagine if they worked together? Sorry about the rant I got excited.
Or when he talked about Iran not wanting a strong Iraq in the Iran Iraq war, not talking about America supporting Iraq and supplying them with materials for chemical weapons
An had a democratically elected govt in the fifties. The CIA wanted their oil, killed their president and reinstalled a deposed monarch who would play American. I’m not impressed. It’s all theiving and crap.
@@swapnilkulkarni800 Nobody told them to start wars. Nobody told people to hate each other. If they stop terrorist attacks, cool. But the word "terrorist" has become very loose and I feel like at some point they just do what gets their government the most income.
@@GenesisAntittymatatanmpo ya I am not saying they are all good but they are still necessary. Yes they can do better but corruption always finds its way no matter which generations it is or what field it is. I only had problem with his statement because he painted them like some kind of cartoon villain it's much more complex than that
@@swapnilkulkarni800 the self proclamed cowboys of the world, can decide the fate of goverments, lifes, countries. When usa goes down, because every empire goes down, history will know that they are worst that germany and the soviet union convined. You know what the "terrorists" wants? for your fucking johnny guns to get the fuck outta their countries, TO LIVE IN PEACE
He means the total dismantling of the military. Afghanistan is propping up a weak government after regime change. Remember Desert Storm? What we did to Saddam's military in two days, could now be done to Iran's in one. Trump won't allow a regime change/occupation quagmire. But that doesn't mean he won't use the stick.
Jono Arnold your comment is a low iq comment. The war with Afghanistan was done in less than a week. We spent years occupying with their new government’s cooperation to bring stability and protect Afghanistan and other allied middle eastern countries like Israel from terrorist
Are you daft? If we just want to obliterate the military and infrastructure we could no problem. We tried to stabilize and restructure the government of Iraq.
I believe hes referring to having the capability of destroying the majority Iran's offensive capabilities in 1 night. US military has claimed they could destroy 90% of north Korea's military in 12 hours.
Trump has tried to bring the troops home multiple times from Iraq and Afghanistan however, both Democrats AND Republicans banded together to block it everytime. Get rid of the neo-cons of both parties. No more fake wars, no more sending our bravest men and women to die for people who couldnt care less.
@@possession2 You are dreaming and living in a fantasy land. Are you going to house all of them, give them welfare, give Medicaid including mental health help, help with employment? Get out of your mommy's basement.
sneezer No it can’t. It would go into somebody’s pocket. It’s a drop in the bucket of a country of 350 million. Homelessness is mostly due to mental illness. Even many of the drug addicted have severe mental illnesses. Many had homes and families and the families couldn’t deal with their illness. I worked in the Mental Health field most of my life. In the old days, if someone was mentally ill, they kept them hospitalized until they got them stabilized. Found medications that worked and had follow up out patient therapy. Now, they hold the person for a day and let them go. Their families can’t handle them, especially if they are violent and they end up on the street. As a society, we really don’t care about these people. They don’t vote and the politicians lie about getting it solved.
Former CIA agent or not... when you are THAT confident on a subject that clearly has so much nuance to it, it makes me doubt your judgment. Plus, yeah, right, everything will be over in an evening... fool me once, fool me twice...
This guy is basically wrong about everything. He's so wrong I can't help but wonder what his area of expertise was supposed to be. My understanding is that it's pretty well understood that fighting and invading Iran would be a nightmare just based their geography and 1980s equipment.
I couldn't watch it. I just clicked off at around 2 minutes, and looked for comments to take the bad taste away... This guy believes - well, 'believes' - that Iran is the single greatest sponsor of terrorism *in the world*? Not maybe the Saudis? Or maybe the Russians? Or even the Afghans? Or maybe those who supplied the various Saudi and Afghan terrorists for nearly half a century? (Now, who was that again??) Nope, it's a small-to-middling sized (and democratic) country (with lots of oil), which has never attacked anyone else in modern history. (And there's a lot wrong with Iran, but military aggression isn't it)... This guy gives idiots bad name. 'We' effectively lost in Iraq, which barely even had an army, and America was beaten by angry civilians instead - but we'd easily defeat Iran, which has some of the most highly-trained and motivated soldiers in the Middle-East, if not the world (including quite effective special forces, and the ability to call upon some powerful allies). You're right, of course - the big worry is that people as ignorant or dishonest as this are allowed to 'serve' in intelligence. Really, it's doubtful if they should be allowed to leave the house without a nanny. Staggering...
@@Microtherion it's pretty weird. I suppose he's talking about if we just let lose on Iran, ruthlessly nuked everything with ICBMs and cruise missiles, perpetrated a holocaust on women and children, and scorched the earth. We all know that kind of war is not in the cards, though. Even if it was, it's insane and would amount to a pyrrhic victory for the US. It's funny, a few years ago, I used to play table top games with a reservist naval officer. He told me why invading Iran is very unwise, based solely on a military level, and he made it seem like anyone with a cursory military education would know this. I just found an article recently written on the topic that's pretty good: nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/how-geography-would-doom-any-invasion-iran-112111 So what is this bonehead CIA agent saying? It's not just this topic, throughout the interview, he's so wrong about stuff it borders on bizarre. John Kariakou, a former CIA agent who blew the whistle on the Bush torture program, talks in his book about working with analysts in the CIA who sucked and were just lame as hell. People who had no idea what was going on. Makes me wonder.
@@wolfumz Yes... The nearest explanation I can bring to mind is that the CIA and similar 'intel' agencies (and oxymorons) are bound to put considerable emphasis on 'commitment'. That's necessary, but you'll rarely get truly iron-clad (unquestioning) commitment from anyone intelligent, so they must be constantly trading off between intellect and commitment. There's also a tendency to draw predominantly on the kids of the mega-rich, and this tendency has only increased recently. If they do that, it's sheer pot-luck whether they get a savvy, insightful princeling or a spoilt and entitled non-entity who can barely tie his shoe-laces. (Many of these same frustrations are apparent in Michael Scheuer's books). In this case, they evidently found someone who speaks with great confidence, and indifference to whether what he says is even superficially credible. That says 'commitment', for sure - just not in a good way...
@@crazycat1232 Thanks! Actually, one little confession - I'm British, not American. We have to 'keep an eye' on whatever's going on (or usually off) in America though. It's like: we're on your side, fellas - why aren't you? :)
not much knowledge it seems on Jo s part. the USA might overwhelm Iran in the first instance but the real fight begins when the guerrilla tactics start. And Iran is HUGE and ideal for that. Many casualties and a new "FOREVER " war. The military industrial complex is having a party
@@snakeplisken3497 At the same time, if the last 50 years has proven anything, no one 'has a clue about the middle east' in the entire country. Track record on 'knowing' about that entire region has been pretty piss poor so far, and probably even people in the middle east themselves are just as 'clueless'. Name one thing the so-called 'intelligent apparatus' has been correct on in regards to that region....
@@Arrogan28 You sir are correct. I have spent the vast majority of my adult life in the middle east and yes the US intelligence community is misguided to put it kindly....The issue has been for the longest time that they do not listen to the guy on the ground....(Same with politicians for various reasons)....The vast majority of "Intelligence" officers have very very little real world experiences and a very short supply of common sense. They often apply their values (US) and views (often left leaning believe it or not) as an overlay to the product they are analyzing. Too bad they still value crap degrees from whatever freakin school higher than real world experience and common sense / street smarts. They are not perfect as i have pointed out but in general they are at least some what correct. But the media....they act entirely in a bias manner, this can not be argued...and it is dangerous. I don't care who the president is or what ones political side is. What the "left" or "liberal" media is doing is not good for the US and they do not care. They do not have the intention to educate the public, they have the intention to cause geopolitical unrest to mislead, intimidate, demoralize, or otherwise influence the thinking or behavior of the people....or in other words, Psychological warfare. Maybe for monitary reasons, or maybe because they just cant stand that the world doesnt conform to their ways.
@@randomstuff7742 - he was a general of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard. His function was comparable to a CIA Director or at least one of their functions. He seemed to also have a political function but I'm not that knowledge about the man himself.
@nomar Dinkleberg Seems like that's all they've been for awhile now. Do I believe that majority of the men and women that work for the CIA have the beat intentions, yes. But like everything else, when politics is involved, it all goes to shit.
@nomar Dinkleberg How, I thought their was a political uprising against their secular government, was their not?Why would american agencies help topple a democratic, secular government with a thriving economy?It doesn't make much sense to me.
@nomar Dinkleberg Actually the CIA spearheaded a coup to install a regime, like you say, but that is not the current regime in power. They installed their puppet, the people of Iran knew that he had protection from the CIA, so they considered him a fraud, rightfully so. They offered him protection for years, eventually the people revolted and ended up putting a religious fanatic in power. When their puppet was ousted the CIA flew him back to the US to live lavishly. All of this over the fact that Iran became a democratic government and nationalized their oil supply, which was bad for the US/UK, so they worked together to install their puppet dictator who privatized their oil once again.
I've been around enough retired government agents to know that while they are smart people, they always toe the line even in retirement. To be a government agent you are strictly vetted to ensure your views line up precisely with the governments. Hardly any stray from that.
It's the commander in chief man of course he makes the final call. And this was a message of strength and an example not to mess around, and not to attack our troops in the middle east.
I'm guessing the only reason that this CIA guy is on here is coz he's burnt out and has the lowest of low security clearance. Why would they let an ex CIA agent with any kind of pull or whatever go on Joe Rogan if he had anything interesting to say... I've noticed whenever Baker comes on JRE he says a lot without saying a great deal at all really
I'm from Australia and our counterpart to the CIA (ASIS) - even an ex - ASIS agent wouldn't be able to go on any sort of tv show or whatever and talk about ANYTHING regarding to his previous job...
@@jeannettecampbell1402 i understand what your saying but he is not talking about the things he's done he's just giving his opinion on world issues. Hearing a guy whos viewpoint is shaped from years of insider knowledge is very interesting and credible considering he's been involved unlike most people who's opinion is based on limited information from the media. When he does talk about his experience it isnt anything that's still confidential and would have any consequences. He's not exposing anyone or giving away any secrets. If he was discussing things that were top secret then it would be in issue
@The Catmotherother than for oil and gas reserves, israel to maintain dominance in Middle East, keep taking billions in taxpayer money to fund unneeded wars and to creat profits for defense contractors, war is profitable
More honest and believable? Art bell was ALWAYS skeptical and asked the right questions. If his guest/caller was a weirdo, he'd call him out. Organize your thoughts before you shit them out of your ass
@@TheCarsonJohnnyShow Get some help dude. I meant what I said. Just cuz my opinion differs from yours doesn't make me wrong. That said, opinions are like assholes, except yours. You are all asshole. I was a big Art Bell fan. Listened to him ALL the time, and no, he was NOT "ALWAYS skeptical", nor did he "ALWAYS" ask the right questions. Perhaps you should get hold of yourself and have a nocturnal emission over it tonight.
@@dinosore4782 dude, read the thread again, that's what I'm saying. And actually, most of the times the fact that USA is doing it is a signal that it's not good.
I think you are confused about who he was helping, the QUDS forces are charged with fomenting rebellion in EVERY country in the region in order to overthrow any middle eastern government not controlled by IRAN. With the ultimate goal of isolating and destroying Isreal, causing a genocide of jews not seen since Hitler. Obviously that mission puts Quds at odds with the United states.
@@Synchronite Bee Ready lol if America or Isreal wanted to they could flatten any country in the Middle east, literally. The United States shows unbelievable restraint in fighting wars, they dont murder women and children in retaliation for attacks on our soldiers. We don't target movie theaters or markets to terrorize the population when we cant find the soldiers because they act like civilians. The Quds do all of these things, they supply suicide bombs, murder civilians and absolutly terribly people. In Syria alone the Quds forces murdered thousands of people, not collateral damage from artillery or bombing, executions. The stupidity to compare Isreal and the US to Islamic extremists astounds me.
Rory Oliver The US military doesn’t kill women and children??? 😂 What kinda comic books you been reading kid? Avg accounts say The war in Iraq killed 500k civilians Ever heard of Japan? Do you know what an nuclear bomb is dick head? Yeah we dropped that on babies grandmothers dogs fish 2x!!! You don’t help the stereotype of dumb American smh
The military industrial complex has made sure there hasn't been a war in most of Europe since ww2. If the US leaves, Europe will be back at it again as it has for thousands of years.
Orionide no there fucking won’t, have you ever even been to Europe? They aren’t about to start killing each other outside of the balkans and Northern Ireland
Military complex. That’s funny. No he drank the Kool-Aid of not letting a government that just wants to make Aurora’s wear burkas, and kill individuals that don’t share the belief. Aurora read a book of any kind sometime. If that’s not worth your time fly to Iran and tell them you want peace not war.
People trip cause trump droned 9 people. Obama dropped over 21,000 bombs and noone said a thing. So far as I know, most people didnt even know he did it
Because Obama did it, gives trump the right to do it. I don't support Obama either. Fear isn't respect, people fear trump's ignorance. You want to call Obama out. That's cool with me, but if you can't call your own out. Then you're truly no better than the others.
@@charlesledbetter907 I think we all agree on that. I certainly do. We just use that as an example because noone was saying this stuff until Trump did it. I would hazard a guess that if Obama did the stuff Trump has been doing (the trade deals, tariffs, droning this guy, extending the olive branch to Korea and Russia) he would be idolized more than he already is. For instance this stuff about Trump separating the Mexican kids from families and putting them in Institutions that hes being lambasted for is wrong. Certainly deplorable. However Obama was doing the same thing and noone said a word. As a matter of fact Trump decreased the frequency in which it's done. Then Democrats wanted to use something they institutes against him. Obama dropped over 21,000 missiles and started 4 new wars and noone batted an eye. Obama... the way he conducted himself, walked and talked is what you want in a president but his policies were terrible. He was selling us. China didnt even greet him coming off the air force one. That's how much they didnt respect him. Say what you want, but they respect us now. So much so theres a large democracy movement in China right now where people are carrying Trump signs and marching the streets KNOWING that they could die for it. They greet him off Airforce one. Trump drones one guy (ended up 9 people died) AFTER they killed a bunch of contractors whom the guy was responsible. And everyone is saying he is a warmonger. Even people in Iran (whom I talk to through YT, FB, Quora, and Reddit) are happy that guy is no longer with us. Once again, it doesnt make it right, but all were asking for is people to be consistent with criticism cause it doesnt seem to be the case. Ot really looks like people dont mind about policies. Everyone like Obama so he literally got away with murder. People dont like Trump so every little thing is picked apart. And it seems like people aren't exactly criticizing most of his policies they just dont like the person. They dont care that we had a financial collapse under Obama. And they dont care that our economy is thriving and now were completely on foreign oil now, so much so, were exporting it. Lastly, I think were messed up for a lot of things but reguardless of party let's criticize equally.
@@adamburdt8794 I'm not going to get into it with you, and I don't want to argue. I am one of those people who think the presidents are just puppets and that our vote does not even matter. The reason for all of this (me writing) is how the fuck is Donald Trump (I can't fucking stand him and I think he's a fucking idiot, just my opinion and I'm not here to argue with you) the president of the United States of America. Also shit like Arnold Schwarzenegger, and I think it was Ronald Reagan who was the movie star even in politics. It absolutely boggles my mind, I thought politicians were supposed to be like life long job type shit. It seems like anybody could be a politician as long as they have money and it gives me less faith in the government and our political system, I'm kind of sad.
@@HumanoidCableDreads doesn't mean he can't keep pushing their bullshit propaganda lol calling Iran the #1 sponsor of terrorism just gives him away as a neocon ass kisser
@@HumanoidCableDreads You can't actually be this naive. An "ex CIA guy running a market research company" is EXACTLY what it looks like when the CIA runs a disinformation campaign.
The sad truth is Bush always intended to overthrow Saddam in '91 but we he got worried after the American media and antiwar movement and European countries began to accuse the US of war crime because of the TV images on the "Highway of Death". Bush lost his nerve and ignored his generals because he was worried about his reelection. America has the greatest form of government in the world but there are countless examples of our leaders doing things that are politically expedient even if they know it is the wrong thing to do. Situations like this are the result of being beholden to a fickle and often uneducated voting public.
LmAo I know it’s like when he has Andy sumpf or whatever on ,, they talk like they weren’t on the inside and are allowed to “leak” info. Just listen to them and they say what people wanna hear while maintaining loyalty 😂
You obviously don't know how many radio, TV, celebrities, podcasters and pundits, etc. are CIA. They have created a lot of the shows that are trending. They are a great many steps ahead.
hEAtOniK you do realize that the metal in the WTC buildings only had to get hot enough to become unstable and bend, right? A structure holding thousands of tons of weight don’t have to melt to collapse...
@Toori Baba sad but true. Eisenhower tried to warn us about the M.I.C, but as long as American keep sipping that "imperialistic-patriotism" bullshit it will keep getting trillions😥😢😭
@ZeoDyce That's what makes America such a great place to live. We both can express our own opinion. MY opinion is that they do alot more good than I know about. But I do appreciate you voicing your opinion. Enjoy the day.
Regime change and guerilla warfare are completely different to a confrontation between standing armies with the intent of blowing up a nation and making sure not even a lizard could survive in the country.
@@mattmarzula "nation building" gtfoh. Where was the nation building in Afghanistan? They just left as soon as Iraq needed some troops. The one road that went intercity in Afghanistan, which was important for transportation and infrastructure, didn't get finished because your warmongering army prioritized starting another war. There is no nation building if an Army walks into a country, with biased reasons, kills a bunch of leaders and leaves the rest up to the people.
Everytime we've fought a military in the Middle East we've defeated them in record time. There is no WW3 if the enemy army no longer exists. The reason we didn't leave Iraq is because we started fighting the armed populace, after we had already won the "war". The US military should abandon any pretext of being a policing force to stabilize the ME. The local populace doesn't want to be given freedom, they don't want their oppressors overthrown, they just want to wallow in their ignorance. Leave them to it. If a nation threatens the US or it's allies, or proves itself a direct threat to commerce like Iran has, take steps to correct the issue peacefully, then destroy their nation militarily and move on.
@Jumpin Freedom is a strong word coming from someone defending a system that imprisons and tortures people that inform the public about the shady things the government does. Is the Iranian regime autoritarian? Yes. Would the USA invade Iran to bring them "freedom"?absolutely not. Nor did the US invade Iraq or Afghanistan to bring the people freedom. Both wars were stupid and cost the lives of thousand of people(americans and local). If you're thinking you're a patriot because you defend your government in whatever they do, I got bad news for you.
@CalvinSomething a World War isn't called a world war because it is between 2 countries but many countries across the globe. And a war in Iran would result in a WW3 because it wouldn't be just Iran but also Syria, Russia, Lebanon, probably China at some point, North Korea and maybe other states on one side and the NATO on the other. So, no, it wouldn't be a matter of a day or a week. Even if it would be just Iran. Iran has a much better aerial defense system than Iraq had for example. In the end the USA would overthrow the Iranian government, sure. But it wouldn't be that easy and it would be just the start of guerrilla warfare. That is, if we are just talking Iran vs the USA. If we're talking WW3 it wouldn't be just Iran as stated.
@CalvinSomething yes, the likelihood if a ww3 is pretty low, especially because it would end in a nuclear winter, people that seriously believe that have no political knowledge.
@@CRussell110 Yup, and I actually served in the wars that followed so...there ya go. Politics came into play all the time in 4 combat tours with the Army
Michael McMillian no there was a law passed after 9/11 to give the president the authority to act in this matter. Before that presidents couldn’t just say yea go ahead and kill that guy there I don’t like his beard.
@@mehrshadvr4 which is within a presidents power. Declaring war is Congress' prerogative but military action is the Presidents. Do you remember the Korea War? That was never a declared war by congress and was the president exercising his authority unilaterally.
I hate Obama, and his drone wars, but you're making one hell of a false equivalence. One was attacking a dictator's efforts against revolutionaries during the Arab Spring, whose only support had wavered, and whose sole reason for staying in power was the oil monopoly. The other was assassinating a beloved general (if albeit a likely terrorist, welcome to foreign politics) of an actual power, on an ally's soil for dubious reasons that lacked the support of the international community.
The only people who said nothing are the ones who are asleep (the sheep) and the lame-stream media. Anyone awake (people like me) have criticized both attacks and both Presidents.
8:01 Don't forget Iran's been under sanctions for the past 40 years. It's like chopping a guy's leg off then expecting him to be able to walk like usual
Look at pictures of Iran back in the 70s, Tehran was so beautiful, women could wear sundresses in public, the buildings were beautiful, nice cars, infrastructure out the wahzoo and then the religious zealots got into power in Iran and 50 years later they look like they live in the early 1900s. Its sad when you see a successful society/country ran into the ground by religious ideologues
@@phalspar Joe asked how can he do that ?(reference to killing soleimani) It is simply me wrapping up an answer in those lame comments I never understood people made quoting Joe. I never intended it to be funny. Have a great day.
Ahhh the fear of WW3, simpler times
Seems like they skipped that and went into economic crisis. Hunger is the next part of the plan.....
@matty kelly youre never safe. Even if your camp is only accessable by plane. You think a fire cant be seen from the air?...in this world its very hard to hide.
Stefan Cupovic not if your in the mountains 😁
@@CZE3 rambo style just go into the jungle
Right? Can we just go back to a good ole nuclear scare?
Just remember how the CIA treated Jason Bourne.
That was a movie not real life.u want real life lsd experiments on people, mk ultra, project paperclip etc
@@scoop1215 No it fuckin' happened! No lie
scoop1215 they made a movie about it, it was real
We were taught about Bourne in our history class, totally real
@JDCPA80 honestly I'll never forgive them for that.
There is no "former" CIA agent.
Not until there dead
ok buddy
Yeah I don't fully trust anyone that works for any government too.
@@agilemonk3y109 all the former Cia agents can't talk about their previous missions and work. Look up the files, most Cia agents get killed.
ohhhkay PASCAL. 🙄
You think trump said "he's fired" when he gave the order?
Too soon...
Lol hope so
😂🤣
He said it! He says that line every day! Takes a poop, " you're fired! "
@William Hedgepeth wit and humor is a big part of the reason he gets himself into trouble...
“I was shocked that the commander in chief of the United States military could order the death of an enemy” ok joe
@MoneyPit Jku He can and he did. POTUS killed the terrorist, not murder. Legally justified.
@MoneyPit Jku Wrong!! Obama did the same by ordering those thousands of drone strikes and ordering the death of Bin Laden. He was able to because he was Commander in Chief
Mike Eads
He is a foreign general of a country we are not at war with, that’s an act of war. If Iran killed our general we’d declare war in a heartbeat. I’m sick of people acting like America has special privileges, we aren’t the world police.
@@brock985 he was a very known terrorist that was a general of a foreign country. There will always be a War on terrorists, Kill them before they kill us. Pretty simple.
😂 as if America and Israel ain't been lighting up cats for 70 years.
There is no such thing as "former" CIA. You can retire but you're still CIA.
no, you're retired. Lots of people leave the CIA even mid-career. They might keep their mouths shut about old info but they lose all access to new stuff. I know.
Unless Hillary 'retires' you
You have no idea what you're talking about. Quit trying to make it sound all Conspiracy Theory. It's just another fucked up gov't organization like the FBI, DEA, IRS, etc.
Bullshit
Reminds me of.. Once a Marine always a Marine
Plot twist, WW3 started in 2001 and has been going strong for almost 20 years.
Underrated comment
Yup. The enemy even hates jews.
No WW3 started in 1991, when the globalist wanted the new world order. They started a war against humanity, without actually declaring war.
@@jarhead21100 What for? They only run the entire world, are behind every war, and routinely murder children in the stolen land they live on. I don't get why that upsets people. The holy book they wrote says they get that land, so, case closed.
@@danarsarkawt2694 cmon really? Saddam was gassing his own citizens on a regular basis. If that’s humanity then it needs to be destroyed because that’s evil.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." - CIA Director William Casey, 1981
Fast forward to December 2020, look at what is going on. 80 million people think Joe Biden is more popular than Barack Obama in 2008.
@@michaelshattuck1874 Dude, I'm in California where Biden supposedly beat Trump by 4 million votes yet 4 republicans on the same ticket won their seats for the first time in decades. Did 4 million people only vote Biden and nothing else down the ticket? Or did 2 million of them vote Biden but then (R) down the ticket? Because that's the only way that happens.
What sucks is being one of the few non-believers, ignorance truly is bliss!! Sigh!!!
Disinformation is usually targeted at enemy states you donkey
@@Connection-Lost Lol
Do you really think our votes count on a federal level?
It would be over in 1 night. Overwhelming superiority.
Gee, where have I heard that before?
( Iraq, Afghanistan, 17 years later.)
We defeated Saddam's government in about 1 month. Most of that time was spent driving across the desert.
@@CoryFalde175 Iraqi disent even had a functioning military...Iran on the other Hand!!!!
@@dimaermolenko98 what is the reason Iraq doesn't have a functioning military? They had one prior to 2003. Where did it go?
Its just a sentence to show how simple it is and let me tell u it is that simple ! Plus theres other reasons to make it longer . Being present in a country costed 2 buildings with 100 floors and many lives , thats enough to tell how important it was , doing it in one month and say chao ?!
Correct. 17 year of fighting al qeada, isis, Taliban, etc....These are Terrorists. It took us about a month to topple the actual Iraqi regime ran by Saddam Hussein. This would be the actual Iraqi government/regime. I hope you understand the difference now.
Joe "I get too many nicknames in the comments" Rogan.
Andreas Hansen 👎🏼
Joe "James" Rogan?
Soleimani was on Obama's and Clinton's hit list. Only difference is....they were wise enough to not do it!!!!
Half of what Soleimani has done as far as having missiles shot at Israel and wanting as much blood as possible from Americans and more so to Israel is because the CIA and Mossad took out his favorite circle jerk partner Imad Mughniyeh. Unless you don't knows how all the players are that was the Tony Soprano of Hezbollah. He had the Lebanon CIA Station Chief killed, architect of of the Beirut bombings, etc., etc. etc. Mugniyeh had more American blood on his hands at the time. Soleimani fought with the U.S. to defeat the the Taliban and when Iran was labeled a state sponsor of terror he started equipping Iraqi's to lay IED's in Iraq. Fuck both those guys. There is a Special place in hell for both of them! Mugniyeh was taken out by a car bomb in Damascus! Now his son who he named Jihad pops up every now and then. Bush gave the order to take out that Hezbollah dip shit and there was a little backlash from it. I'm a Veteran and Obama pulled us out of Iraq when the then Iraqi PM was telling us to lay off the Qud's in Iraq that were financing our death. It got really creative then. Assad emptied his jails of all Islamic nut jobs in 03 to come and fight the U.S. and when we pulled out they went back to Syria and formed ISIS! His father was anti Saddam and probably would've done the same if we went all the way to Baghdad. During the Persian Gulf War the SAS team Bravo two Zero trying to take out Scuds was running for Syria. One got out through Syria. So basically we had to go back and fight aside the Iraqi's to liberate the same cities so many Americans gave their lives to take. I'm a Libertarian now as a Civilian. I will say Clinton didn't have the balls to let Americans go kill or capture Bin Laden because of Somalia. So basically he allowed Bin Laden to arm Somali's, bomb 2 American embassies, and the first World Trade Center attack, the USS Cole and Tony Blair was the main reason the US was involved in the Former Yugoslavia where a genocide against Muslims was taking place. Where we said never again afte WW2.He went in front of Congress, not Clinton. I like blow jobs also so I can't blame the guy for getting head when Newt shut shit down. Obama would've been a hero if he killed Soleimani! Trump did and the New Left lost their shit because he listened to his Generals and used Intel to kill him. Trump is pulling troops out of these long ass wars, and killing instrumental people while Congress is basically yanking one of his balls. He is an ass but imagine if they worked together? Sorry about the rant I got excited.
@@diavolos2939 you're*
Joe, thank you for your integrity through comedy and other media platforms. You rock and are appreciated bro.
The CIA have a very great track record in South America. Haha 😂 notice how he doesn't talk about this 😂
You mean their illicit drug dealing adventures?
Or when he talked about Iran not wanting a strong Iraq in the Iran Iraq war, not talking about America supporting Iraq and supplying them with materials for chemical weapons
That’s not the subject matter in this conversation!
tmklunk sorry which?
An had a democratically elected govt in the fifties. The CIA wanted their oil, killed their president and reinstalled a deposed monarch who would play American. I’m not impressed. It’s all theiving and crap.
It’s like that Spider-Man meme of them pointing at each other
@MikeHunt They are that incompetent and that great at the same time?
@MikeHunt But they do stop terrorists attack at least be grateful for that. You get to live your life in saftey while they risk theirs
@@swapnilkulkarni800 Nobody told them to start wars. Nobody told people to hate each other. If they stop terrorist attacks, cool. But the word "terrorist" has become very loose and I feel like at some point they just do what gets their government the most income.
@@GenesisAntittymatatanmpo ya I am not saying they are all good but they are still necessary. Yes they can do better but corruption always finds its way no matter which generations it is or what field it is. I only had problem with his statement because he painted them like some kind of cartoon villain it's much more complex than that
@@swapnilkulkarni800 the self proclamed cowboys of the world, can decide the fate of goverments, lifes, countries. When usa goes down, because every empire goes down, history will know that they are worst that germany and the soviet union convined. You know what the "terrorists" wants? for your fucking johnny guns to get the fuck outta their countries, TO LIVE IN PEACE
How many times can CNN be wrong before ppl turn that crap off?
Who do you watch?
You can't wake someone up that is pretending to be asleep.
isrrael kumiko anyone who is watching any single source is misinformed.
ruclips.net/video/40NGN5mN7Nk/видео.html cnn got it right when biden admitted US allies supported isis
@@isrraelkumiko8214 RT AMERICA on youtube
Besides Mike Baker pretending like he’s not still in the CIA and towing the company line I love listening to this guy
....hey, Joe, Mike Baker's job at the CIA is called "case officer"....
"A war with Iran would be over in one night" He says. I remember the same thing was said about Afghanistan 18 or so years ago.
He means the total dismantling of the military.
Afghanistan is propping up a weak government after regime change.
Remember Desert Storm?
What we did to Saddam's military in two days, could now be done to Iran's in one.
Trump won't allow a regime change/occupation quagmire.
But that doesn't mean he won't use the stick.
Yea so as Vietnam
@Jono Arnold Amen.
Jono Arnold your comment is a low iq comment. The war with Afghanistan was done in less than a week. We spent years occupying with their new government’s cooperation to bring stability and protect Afghanistan and other allied middle eastern countries like Israel from terrorist
Indeed. We should just give them millions more to behave.
When this guy speaks I feel like I'm being slowly led down a long winding road that leads to a cliff of sheer rocks
Creative spin, but you're just playing pretend..
ADWill Create agreed
damn right brother or sister
creepy as shit.........
That's... Interesting
Y'all talking trash on Rogan but you still listening idiots
"I liked Obama, I didn't like his policies. I don't like Trump, I like his policies." I can work with that.
Can't really picture this guy on the city streets helping the homeless.
@@LWLProductions yes
He says at 12:19 "nobody wants a military conflict'. Nobody, really?
Then why hasn't Congress allowed Trump to withdraw troops from the Middle East...it's almost like we always have to be in a war
@@amertvyy Gotta keep the proficiency up.
John bolton gets hard at the thought of war with iran.
Of course he lied, he opened his mouth.
Always ask a CIA agent how things really are. They have the best track record historically.....
stan smith seems pretty trustworthy on American Dad.
his right about solamani.
@@fluffyfingerz9777 no he's not
The people don't have a great track record either so fuck off.
What aspect of what he said was even remotely innaccurat? Please of god of knowledge, enlighten us peasants.
Joe “I share the same viewpoint of whoever is sitting across from me” Rogan
🤣🤣🤣
We need to get Joe and Ali Khamenei agree to do a podcast so we can actually get the other side of the story!
Big facts
He fence sits alot
Seriously, absolutely ZERO pushback, even after he’s had several people on the podcast exposing the CIA for their heinous behavior
"One man's terrorist is another man's scholar"..... One of the most finite truths of the human condition.
If you can take out Iran in one night. Why is The US still in Iraq 19 years later?
Are you daft? If we just want to obliterate the military and infrastructure we could no problem. We tried to stabilize and restructure the government of Iraq.
I believe hes referring to having the capability of destroying the majority Iran's offensive capabilities in 1 night. US military has claimed they could destroy 90% of north Korea's military in 12 hours.
Trump has tried to bring the troops home multiple times from Iraq and Afghanistan however, both Democrats AND Republicans banded together to block it everytime. Get rid of the neo-cons of both parties. No more fake wars, no more sending our bravest men and women to die for people who couldnt care less.
The longer the war the longer the military industrial complex keeps turning
“Or an extra sanction here or there”
Or you know, several billion dollars...
@@Sam-pie 20 billion a year can solve homelessness in the US.
Yeah but it is about Iran, not USA.. So a couple of billion is a lot of money for Iran
@@Sam-pie wrong.
@@possession2 You are dreaming and living in a fantasy land. Are you going to house all of them, give them welfare, give Medicaid including mental health help, help with employment? Get out of your mommy's basement.
sneezer No it can’t. It would go into somebody’s pocket. It’s a drop in the bucket of a country of 350 million. Homelessness is mostly due to mental illness. Even many of the drug addicted have severe mental illnesses. Many had homes and families and the families couldn’t deal with their illness. I worked in the Mental Health field most of my life. In the old days, if someone was mentally ill, they kept them hospitalized until they got them stabilized. Found medications that worked and had follow up out patient therapy. Now, they hold the person for a day and let them go. Their families can’t handle them, especially if they are violent and they end up on the street. As a society, we really don’t care about these people. They don’t vote and the politicians lie about getting it solved.
Joe "I was nervous" Rogan
Former CIA agent or not... when you are THAT confident on a subject that clearly has so much nuance to it, it makes me doubt your judgment. Plus, yeah, right, everything will be over in an evening... fool me once, fool me twice...
This guy is basically wrong about everything. He's so wrong I can't help but wonder what his area of expertise was supposed to be.
My understanding is that it's pretty well understood that fighting and invading Iran would be a nightmare just based their geography and 1980s equipment.
I couldn't watch it. I just clicked off at around 2 minutes, and looked for comments to take the bad taste away... This guy believes - well, 'believes' - that Iran is the single greatest sponsor of terrorism *in the world*? Not maybe the Saudis? Or maybe the Russians? Or even the Afghans? Or maybe those who supplied the various Saudi and Afghan terrorists for nearly half a century? (Now, who was that again??)
Nope, it's a small-to-middling sized (and democratic) country (with lots of oil), which has never attacked anyone else in modern history. (And there's a lot wrong with Iran, but military aggression isn't it)... This guy gives idiots bad name. 'We' effectively lost in Iraq, which barely even had an army, and America was beaten by angry civilians instead - but we'd easily defeat Iran, which has some of the most highly-trained and motivated soldiers in the Middle-East, if not the world (including quite effective special forces, and the ability to call upon some powerful allies). You're right, of course - the big worry is that people as ignorant or dishonest as this are allowed to 'serve' in intelligence. Really, it's doubtful if they should be allowed to leave the house without a nanny. Staggering...
@@Microtherion it's pretty weird. I suppose he's talking about if we just let lose on Iran, ruthlessly nuked everything with ICBMs and cruise missiles, perpetrated a holocaust on women and children, and scorched the earth. We all know that kind of war is not in the cards, though. Even if it was, it's insane and would amount to a pyrrhic victory for the US.
It's funny, a few years ago, I used to play table top games with a reservist naval officer. He told me why invading Iran is very unwise, based solely on a military level, and he made it seem like anyone with a cursory military education would know this. I just found an article recently written on the topic that's pretty good:
nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/how-geography-would-doom-any-invasion-iran-112111
So what is this bonehead CIA agent saying? It's not just this topic, throughout the interview, he's so wrong about stuff it borders on bizarre. John Kariakou, a former CIA agent who blew the whistle on the Bush torture program, talks in his book about working with analysts in the CIA who sucked and were just lame as hell. People who had no idea what was going on. Makes me wonder.
@@wolfumz Yes... The nearest explanation I can bring to mind is that the CIA and similar 'intel' agencies (and oxymorons) are bound to put considerable emphasis on 'commitment'. That's necessary, but you'll rarely get truly iron-clad (unquestioning) commitment from anyone intelligent, so they must be constantly trading off between intellect and commitment. There's also a tendency to draw predominantly on the kids of the mega-rich, and this tendency has only increased recently. If they do that, it's sheer pot-luck whether they get a savvy, insightful princeling or a spoilt and entitled non-entity who can barely tie his shoe-laces. (Many of these same frustrations are apparent in Michael Scheuer's books). In this case, they evidently found someone who speaks with great confidence, and indifference to whether what he says is even superficially credible. That says 'commitment', for sure - just not in a good way...
@@crazycat1232 Thanks! Actually, one little confession - I'm British, not American. We have to 'keep an eye' on whatever's going on (or usually off) in America though. It's like: we're on your side, fellas - why aren't you? :)
Really good at speaking a lot without saying anything.
Joe "I don't have a clue about the middle east" Rogan
not much knowledge it seems on Jo s part.
the USA might overwhelm Iran in the first instance but the real fight begins when the guerrilla tactics start. And Iran is HUGE and ideal for that. Many casualties and a new "FOREVER " war. The military industrial complex is having a party
Joe "Victim of CNNs propaganda campaign" Rogan
@@janbeggebeen gained this knowledge via your many years in the middle east im sure....😂
@@snakeplisken3497 At the same time, if the last 50 years has proven anything, no one 'has a clue about the middle east' in the entire country. Track record on 'knowing' about that entire region has been pretty piss poor so far, and probably even people in the middle east themselves are just as 'clueless'. Name one thing the so-called 'intelligent apparatus' has been correct on in regards to that region....
@@Arrogan28 You sir are correct. I have spent the vast majority of my adult life in the middle east and yes the US intelligence community is misguided to put it kindly....The issue has been for the longest time that they do not listen to the guy on the ground....(Same with politicians for various reasons)....The vast majority of "Intelligence" officers have very very little real world experiences and a very short supply of common sense. They often apply their values (US) and views (often left leaning believe it or not) as an overlay to the product they are analyzing. Too bad they still value crap degrees from whatever freakin school higher than real world experience and common sense / street smarts. They are not perfect as i have pointed out but in general they are at least some what correct. But the media....they act entirely in a bias manner, this can not be argued...and it is dangerous. I don't care who the president is or what ones political side is. What the "left" or "liberal" media is doing is not good for the US and they do not care. They do not have the intention to educate the public, they have the intention to cause geopolitical unrest to mislead, intimidate, demoralize, or otherwise influence the thinking or behavior of the people....or in other words, Psychological warfare. Maybe for monitary reasons, or maybe because they just cant stand that the world doesnt conform to their ways.
Honestly, I don't fully trust anyone that works for *any* government.
Yep, they all collect checks from the same place
Even school teachers?
Ren Caelum Dude sure , but who can you trust these days ?
Ok mr anime profile picture who doesnt trust the government
@@papichai73 Ok boomer
I laughed way too hard at “yeah option three f*ck him” lol
In one sentence he said he was the second most important person in Iran and in his second sentence he said he wasn't a 'national' leader or general.
Cus he isn’t in the government he was more of a mob boss who had taken power
@@randomstuff7742 - he was a general of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard. His function was comparable to a CIA Director or at least one of their functions. He seemed to also have a political function but I'm not that knowledge about the man himself.
I think the problem is that he drank the “we need to stabilize Iraq” coolaid.
It was real life "Syriana". USA and Iran worked together to get rid of a trouble maker. Then pretend to be angry for the TV camera.
Kool-Aid. It's a brand name.
Literally no one gives a fuck
You know what Iraq needs to be stable? Camels and dates. America...not on list.
@CJ You know what would REALLY benefit the Arab world?
If Americans would leave them the F*&@ alone.
5:29...it's a little crazy to hear a "former" CIA operative talk about pushing agendas🤔
@nomar Dinkleberg
Seems like that's all they've been for awhile now. Do I believe that majority of the men and women that work for the CIA have the beat intentions, yes. But like everything else, when politics is involved, it all goes to shit.
@nomar DinklebergAbout what, I'm curious?
@@christophermendez7372 former head Comey might be why. Hes so far left it befuddles the mind.
@nomar Dinkleberg How, I thought their was a political uprising against their secular government, was their not?Why would american agencies help topple a democratic, secular government with a thriving economy?It doesn't make much sense to me.
@nomar Dinkleberg Actually the CIA spearheaded a coup to install a regime, like you say, but that is not the current regime in power. They installed their puppet, the people of Iran knew that he had protection from the CIA, so they considered him a fraud, rightfully so. They offered him protection for years, eventually the people revolted and ended up putting a religious fanatic in power. When their puppet was ousted the CIA flew him back to the US to live lavishly. All of this over the fact that Iran became a democratic government and nationalized their oil supply, which was bad for the US/UK, so they worked together to install their puppet dictator who privatized their oil once again.
This guy stumbles over his words more than any guest ever.
he is a super creep.
His lips moves faster than his brain
That just happens when you're lying through your teeths.
Joe ' I can't believe the commander in chief can make those decisions' Rogan
This guy is totally honest and unbiased and no self interest.😂😂😂😂
This guy had a lot of blood on his hands.
Luckily he was taken out.
WRONG
So does Bush
Who, Joe?
US military has even more blood on their hands either directly or indirectly. Think from ww2-2019. Let alone the weapons americans produce
I've been around enough retired government agents to know that while they are smart people, they always toe the line even in retirement. To be a government agent you are strictly vetted to ensure your views line up precisely with the governments. Hardly any stray from that.
Trump?. They do seem to remain true to caesar and satan.
That’s why he made it clear that he didn’t vote for Trump.
It's the commander in chief man of course he makes the final call. And this was a message of strength and an example not to mess around, and not to attack our troops in the middle east.
Once a spook, always a spook.
AJ S I only startled once. I startled no more
Careful.
@@michaelskelton18 🤐
What’s a spook
@@xUnMattched my whole life spook has been a racist term against blacks. Idk the context these people are using it in on the ops comments.
I knew Brian Regan seemed a bit fishy, but a CIA agent? Sheesh
Whatsup hank? I used to see your comments on andertons vids
"It's unclear whether the chargers against Brian Regan will lead to his execution."
I'm guessing the only reason that this CIA guy is on here is coz he's burnt out and has the lowest of low security clearance. Why would they let an ex CIA agent with any kind of pull or whatever go on Joe Rogan if he had anything interesting to say... I've noticed whenever Baker comes on JRE he says a lot without saying a great deal at all really
I'm from Australia and our counterpart to the CIA (ASIS) - even an ex - ASIS agent wouldn't be able to go on any sort of tv show or whatever and talk about ANYTHING regarding to his previous job...
@@jeannettecampbell1402 i understand what your saying but he is not talking about the things he's done he's just giving his opinion on world issues. Hearing a guy whos viewpoint is shaped from years of insider knowledge is very interesting and credible considering he's been involved unlike most people who's opinion is based on limited information from the media. When he does talk about his experience it isnt anything that's still confidential and would have any consequences. He's not exposing anyone or giving away any secrets. If he was discussing things that were top secret then it would be in issue
I didn’t remember the plane getting shot down until he said a second middle hit it.
If we only knew what the future held when everyone was worried about this. We’re in a different kind of “WW3” now...
And this is the guy who said Oswald acted alone ...lol
Captain Charisma haven’t listened to the whole podcast, it’s a CIA man, I can only guess he’s dropping little bits of truth with a lot of bullshits
@The Catmotherother than for oil and gas reserves, israel to maintain dominance in Middle East, keep taking billions in taxpayer money to fund unneeded wars and to creat profits for defense contractors, war is profitable
@The Catmother I think "Blackhawk Down" is still on Netflix ...lol
From all the information I've seen, it does seem that Oswald acted alone.
@The Catmother because they pay off the left-wing Democrats with Blood Diamonds to keep things under wraps.
He's probably right, but it's hard to hear a CIA bro call someone bloodthirsty & take it seriously...
I am falling in love with Joe Rogan's shows. He reminds me a lot of Art Bell, only more honest and believable.
I too remember Art Bell!!
More honest and believable? Art bell was ALWAYS skeptical and asked the right questions. If his guest/caller was a weirdo, he'd call him out. Organize your thoughts before you shit them out of your ass
@@TheCarsonJohnnyShow Get some help dude. I meant what I said. Just cuz my opinion differs from yours doesn't make me wrong. That said, opinions are like assholes, except yours. You are all asshole. I was a big Art Bell fan. Listened to him ALL the time, and no, he was NOT "ALWAYS skeptical", nor did he "ALWAYS" ask the right questions. Perhaps you should get hold of yourself and have a nocturnal emission over it tonight.
Lets just be honest, it doesn’t make you a bad guy to oppose US imperialism.
It makes you a bad guy to support it.
Mark Lee shut up liberal
@@dinosore4782 dude, read the thread again, that's what I'm saying. And actually, most of the times the fact that USA is doing it is a signal that it's not good.
"He's a monster! he was helping people fight us while we invaded their country half a world away!"
I think you are confused about who he was helping, the QUDS forces are charged with fomenting rebellion in EVERY country in the region in order to overthrow any middle eastern government not controlled by IRAN. With the ultimate goal of isolating and destroying Isreal, causing a genocide of jews not seen since Hitler. Obviously that mission puts Quds at odds with the United states.
Rory Oliver so basically he was doing exactly the opposite of what horrors the USA and Israel have been doing in the Mid East ok 👌
@@Synchronite ^
@@Synchronite Bee Ready lol if America or Isreal wanted to they could flatten any country in the Middle east, literally. The United States shows unbelievable restraint in fighting wars, they dont murder women and children in retaliation for attacks on our soldiers. We don't target movie theaters or markets to terrorize the population when we cant find the soldiers because they act like civilians. The Quds do all of these things, they supply suicide bombs, murder civilians and absolutly terribly people. In Syria alone the Quds forces murdered thousands of people, not collateral damage from artillery or bombing, executions.
The stupidity to compare Isreal and the US to Islamic extremists astounds me.
Rory Oliver The US military doesn’t kill women and children??? 😂 What kinda comic books you been reading kid?
Avg accounts say The war in Iraq killed 500k civilians
Ever heard of Japan? Do you know what an nuclear bomb is dick head? Yeah we dropped that on babies grandmothers dogs fish 2x!!!
You don’t help the stereotype of dumb American smh
Mike Baker drank the kool-aid of the military industrial complex, but what more can we expect of a former CIA agent?
The military industrial complex has made sure there hasn't been a war in most of Europe since ww2. If the US leaves, Europe will be back at it again as it has for thousands of years.
Orionide no there fucking won’t, have you ever even been to Europe? They aren’t about to start killing each other outside of the balkans and Northern Ireland
Military complex. That’s funny. No he drank the Kool-Aid of not letting a government that just wants to make Aurora’s wear burkas, and kill individuals that don’t share the belief. Aurora read a book of any kind sometime. If that’s not worth your time fly to Iran and tell them you want peace not war.
talking about being comfy, I think Mikes shirt was black around 2005 fyi he has a cool new show
so he wanted iraq to be depended on iran, wow, have we ever done that?
Little does Joe know that Obama was a Johnny McTriggerHappy when it came to drone strikes
People trip cause trump droned 9 people. Obama dropped over 21,000 bombs and noone said a thing. So far as I know, most people didnt even know he did it
Because Obama did it, gives trump the right to do it. I don't support Obama either. Fear isn't respect, people fear trump's ignorance. You want to call Obama out. That's cool with me, but if you can't call your own out. Then you're truly no better than the others.
@@charlesledbetter907 I think we all agree on that. I certainly do. We just use that as an example because noone was saying this stuff until Trump did it. I would hazard a guess that if Obama did the stuff Trump has been doing (the trade deals, tariffs, droning this guy, extending the olive branch to Korea and Russia) he would be idolized more than he already is. For instance this stuff about Trump separating the Mexican kids from families and putting them in Institutions that hes being lambasted for is wrong. Certainly deplorable. However Obama was doing the same thing and noone said a word. As a matter of fact Trump decreased the frequency in which it's done. Then Democrats wanted to use something they institutes against him. Obama dropped over 21,000 missiles and started 4 new wars and noone batted an eye. Obama... the way he conducted himself, walked and talked is what you want in a president but his policies were terrible. He was selling us. China didnt even greet him coming off the air force one. That's how much they didnt respect him. Say what you want, but they respect us now. So much so theres a large democracy movement in China right now where people are carrying Trump signs and marching the streets KNOWING that they could die for it. They greet him off Airforce one. Trump drones one guy (ended up 9 people died) AFTER they killed a bunch of contractors whom the guy was responsible. And everyone is saying he is a warmonger. Even people in Iran (whom I talk to through YT, FB, Quora, and Reddit) are happy that guy is no longer with us. Once again, it doesnt make it right, but all were asking for is people to be consistent with criticism cause it doesnt seem to be the case. Ot really looks like people dont mind about policies. Everyone like Obama so he literally got away with murder. People dont like Trump so every little thing is picked apart. And it seems like people aren't exactly criticizing most of his policies they just dont like the person. They dont care that we had a financial collapse under Obama. And they dont care that our economy is thriving and now were completely on foreign oil now, so much so, were exporting it. Lastly, I think were messed up for a lot of things but reguardless of party let's criticize equally.
@@adamburdt8794 I'm not going to get into it with you, and I don't want to argue. I am one of those people who think the presidents are just puppets and that our vote does not even matter. The reason for all of this (me writing) is how the fuck is Donald Trump (I can't fucking stand him and I think he's a fucking idiot, just my opinion and I'm not here to argue with you) the president of the United States of America. Also shit like Arnold Schwarzenegger, and I think it was Ronald Reagan who was the movie star even in politics. It absolutely boggles my mind, I thought politicians were supposed to be like life long job type shit. It seems like anybody could be a politician as long as they have money and it gives me less faith in the government and our political system, I'm kind of sad.
The drone strikes has unfortunately escalated since Obama left office.
Mike Baker, working his PR desk position.
He runs a market research company, he does Rogan because he likes talking politics.
@@HumanoidCableDreads doesn't mean he can't keep pushing their bullshit propaganda lol calling Iran the #1 sponsor of terrorism just gives him away as a neocon ass kisser
@@Urine666Deity the truth hurts, Fuck Iran
@@HumanoidCableDreads You can't actually be this naive. An "ex CIA guy running a market research company" is EXACTLY what it looks like when the CIA runs a disinformation campaign.
A Aizner so let me get this straight? The CIA is running “disinformation” by saying that Iran is a sponsor of terrorism ? Lol you can’t be serious?
This guy's talking in code throughout this whole ordeal, i just find it funny that he makes it seem like some of use dont know what he's saying
Larry Cantu I think he wants us to know. If he didn’t want to reveal anything he wouldn’t even be there. IMO
@@32kirby32 that's another way of looking at it for sure, sounds good though
staffers think they are james bond but more closely resemble an assistant with a gun
Remember when Bush told the shia to rise up against Saddam and then left them to rot
They were supposed to rise up.
@@davecolvin7969 they did rise up
And then Saddam slaughtered them while the US watched
they rose up and gave iraq to iran.
The sad truth is Bush always intended to overthrow Saddam in '91 but we he got worried after the American media and antiwar movement and European countries began to accuse the US of war crime because of the TV images on the "Highway of Death". Bush lost his nerve and ignored his generals because he was worried about his reelection. America has the greatest form of government in the world but there are countless examples of our leaders doing things that are politically expedient even if they know it is the wrong thing to do.
Situations like this are the result of being beholden to a fickle and often uneducated voting public.
@@roryoliver6743 and when his son did it there were no accusations of war crimes and no Anti war movement
10:00
"I was elected to lead, not to read. OPTION 4!"
I thought of the same exactly scene too
Wasn’t the end of the quote “NUMBER 3!!” Not option 4?
"Soleimani, you're fired" - Trump
Mike Baker is a good story teller, and that’s about it.
@JimBobBek Hi
Reading the right mind solved an issue LMAO!
Yea let’s just all believe the CIA guy. They’re such a reputable organization
I also heard from your mom
@The Catmother like your mum
The same cia that said Iraq had WMD, and bin laden n saddam were in cahoots?
Yea instead let’s believe a 12 year old who plays fortnite all day and makes memes on ww3 and shits on America cause its epic memes
@@drollyrancher7020 america shits on itself, it doesnt need help
I would like to appologise to all those who came here seeking objective truth from a "former CIA agent".
There is no such thing as a former CIA agent.
Bill Cooper
Nkocarnia Nkosi so salami wasn’t a terrorist ?
Notice at 5:22 how he scratches the left side of his face. That’s a sign he’s not being fully truthful.
Telling us who needs to die does not make you good.
There is no such thing as 'former CIA'
Cuz people live forever and are immortal. Dont try to be overly philosophical pal.
@@grimendancehall you missed my point completely and somehow proved it right at the same time
Yeah ima follow the word of a douche bag named White Obama....
It's like saying former Mafia member
@@TylerLabbe says a guy who comes to youtube comment section to find someone to follow 🤦♂️
its refreshing to hear CIA propaganda from the actual CIA
😂
LmAo I know it’s like when he has Andy sumpf or whatever on ,, they talk like they weren’t on the inside and are allowed to “leak” info. Just listen to them and they say what people wanna hear while maintaining loyalty 😂
After learning about Q at qmap.pub, Joe Rogan and all his guests sound like total morons.
You obviously don't know how many radio, TV, celebrities, podcasters and pundits, etc. are CIA. They have created a lot of the shows that are trending. They are a great many steps ahead.
so, what did he say that was wrong or bad? if you cant name something, shut up
This man knows how to dance round the question
When he says missile hit, he doesn't mean the missile actually struck the aircraft. They explode and send shrapnel into the aircraft.
“911 was an inthide job, juth look at building theven”
- Mike Tyson
*wath
6 out of the 10 commissioners on the 9/11 commission don't agree with own findings, that just says it all....
hEAtOniK lol ok...you might want to stay off the QAnon...
hEAtOniK you do realize that the metal in the WTC buildings only had to get hot enough to become unstable and bend, right? A structure holding thousands of tons of weight don’t have to melt to collapse...
@Terrence Odonnell what's your knowledge on building 7 sir?
No wars today pal
Can we have a war on hunger and poverty?
@Toori Baba sad but true. Eisenhower tried to warn us about the M.I.C, but as long as American keep sipping that "imperialistic-patriotism" bullshit it will keep getting trillions😥😢😭
Exactly
Me Rodriguez we have one....how well has that worked out....God damn
Toori Baba what trillions?
And we already have had a war on poverty. Its been a failure. Give me a break.
Thank you Mr Baker for your service to our country. And thank you Joe for having this hero on your show.
@ZeoDyce That's what makes America such a great place to live. We both can express our own opinion. MY opinion is that they do alot more good than I know about. But I do appreciate you voicing your opinion. Enjoy the day.
Thanks Karen
I'm so glad this guy came on here and talked some sense into people!
I'm
This is not what the truth sounds like. I know that for sure.
Look at 5:22. Definitely a sign he’s not being truthful.
"We can take them out in one night".
*Stares in 19 years in Iraq*.
Nation building isn't the same as "taking someone out".
Math...haha
RIGHT!????
Regime change and guerilla warfare are completely different to a confrontation between standing armies with the intent of blowing up a nation and making sure not even a lizard could survive in the country.
@@mattmarzula "nation building" gtfoh. Where was the nation building in Afghanistan? They just left as soon as Iraq needed some troops. The one road that went intercity in Afghanistan, which was important for transportation and infrastructure, didn't get finished because your warmongering army prioritized starting another war. There is no nation building if an Army walks into a country, with biased reasons, kills a bunch of leaders and leaves the rest up to the people.
The full episode link is private.
Hearing this post covid is quaint.
“It’ll be over in an evening” why do I feel like I’ve heard this exact same talking point before about a different middle eastern nation 😂
Everytime we've fought a military in the Middle East we've defeated them in record time. There is no WW3 if the enemy army no longer exists. The reason we didn't leave Iraq is because we started fighting the armed populace, after we had already won the "war".
The US military should abandon any pretext of being a policing force to stabilize the ME. The local populace doesn't want to be given freedom, they don't want their oppressors overthrown, they just want to wallow in their ignorance. Leave them to it. If a nation threatens the US or it's allies, or proves itself a direct threat to commerce like Iran has, take steps to correct the issue peacefully, then destroy their nation militarily and move on.
Jumpin Jehosephat Your logic is sideways. Anyways what is your opinion on Afghanistan?
@Jumpin Freedom is a strong word coming from someone defending a system that imprisons and tortures people that inform the public about the shady things the government does. Is the Iranian regime autoritarian? Yes. Would the USA invade Iran to bring them "freedom"?absolutely not. Nor did the US invade Iraq or Afghanistan to bring the people freedom. Both wars were stupid and cost the lives of thousand of people(americans and local). If you're thinking you're a patriot because you defend your government in whatever they do, I got bad news for you.
@CalvinSomething a World War isn't called a world war because it is between 2 countries but many countries across the globe. And a war in Iran would result in a WW3 because it wouldn't be just Iran but also Syria, Russia, Lebanon, probably China at some point, North Korea and maybe other states on one side and the NATO on the other. So, no, it wouldn't be a matter of a day or a week. Even if it would be just Iran. Iran has a much better aerial defense system than Iraq had for example. In the end the USA would overthrow the Iranian government, sure. But it wouldn't be that easy and it would be just the start of guerrilla warfare. That is, if we are just talking Iran vs the USA. If we're talking WW3 it wouldn't be just Iran as stated.
@CalvinSomething yes, the likelihood if a ww3 is pretty low, especially because it would end in a nuclear winter, people that seriously believe that have no political knowledge.
CIA: People don't need to make this about politics
Comment Section: lets make this about politics
War is politics
WELL the CIA is prt of the government lol
@@kubaniski Is that how you felt after 9/11?
@@CRussell110 Yup, and I actually served in the wars that followed so...there ya go. Politics came into play all the time in 4 combat tours with the Army
@@TheBoxingCannabyte 3000 dead innocent Americans was political huh?
As of November 29th I am now sweating profusely
“Yeah, option 3. Fuck ‘em” hahaha
Joe Rogan and his mythical “they”.
Thats a bit much on the jew comment dont ya think? This isnt 1930 you dumbfuck
Not "mythical" just "unnamed".
Well there is a reason why he is called the “Commander in Chief”
Michael McMillian no there was a law passed after 9/11 to give the president the authority to act in this matter. Before that presidents couldn’t just say yea go ahead and kill that guy there I don’t like his beard.
@@Voovooze Presidents coul always use Military Force even without a declaration of War. Even since Washington
@@Voovooze no law was passed to give president assassinate a foreign government. That was an act of war.
A real Rhodes scholar right here.
@@mehrshadvr4 which is within a presidents power. Declaring war is Congress' prerogative but military action is the Presidents.
Do you remember the Korea War? That was never a declared war by congress and was the president exercising his authority unilaterally.
Anyone who's lost there marbles even a little shouldn't be in charge of even a tricycle
ASTUR SCHOLAR🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Joe says it three times
Joe “austoore religious scholar” Rogan
Seriously. Austere is not a complicated word to use
Weed brain
Literally read this comment as Joe said it 😄😆🤣
James clark I’d be down to bet Joe is smarter than you and everyone who liked your comment.
Thank you shushanth swinderballs, very cool!
He calls the invasion "building a strong, stable Iraq." And he's calling others insane...
The invasion lasted three weeks. Are you confused?
Seems you are, Mike
SavageHenry777 Is that stupid comment your best argument?
That was the goal of the invasion, literally. Hindsight is obscuring that point.
Ian Heilman There are no good excuses for a failure of this magnitude.
Iran trying to fight a conventional war with the U.S. would be target practice for American Aviators.
Dude got bacon neck collar! LOL
Obama Bombs Libya back to the stoneage: Nothing
Trump Drones one dude: OMG WW3 GUYS!!
Who says advertising doesn't work?
Uh the "one guy" was like killing the US VP
I hate Obama, and his drone wars, but you're making one hell of a false equivalence. One was attacking a dictator's efforts against revolutionaries during the Arab Spring, whose only support had wavered, and whose sole reason for staying in power was the oil monopoly. The other was assassinating a beloved general (if albeit a likely terrorist, welcome to foreign politics) of an actual power, on an ally's soil for dubious reasons that lacked the support of the international community.
@@GuruJudge21 Thank you and Dan for proving my point
@@GuruJudge21 Obama killed a US citizen in a drone strike, who was underage
The only people who said nothing are the ones who are asleep (the sheep) and the lame-stream media. Anyone awake (people like me) have criticized both attacks and both Presidents.
Over in a evening, it’s not over after 18 years. Rules #1 don’t bite the hand that feeds you!
Mike baker could play Dennis Quaid in any film…… and I’m on board! You rule mike!!!!!
8:01 Don't forget Iran's been under sanctions for the past 40 years. It's like chopping a guy's leg off then expecting him to be able to walk like usual
Look at pictures of Iran back in the 70s, Tehran was so beautiful, women could wear sundresses in public, the buildings were beautiful, nice cars, infrastructure out the wahzoo and then the religious zealots got into power in Iran and 50 years later they look like they live in the early 1900s. Its sad when you see a successful society/country ran into the ground by religious ideologues
Joe “ I suspect I disagree with my guest, but until I know more, I can neither agree nor disagree” Rogan
Joe "Commander in Chief of the United States armed forces" Rogan
Why do people still make these jokes they are so far from being funny.
@@forrestcoleman2828 I giggled at it.
jreg2007 you’re the only one
@@phalspar clearly 13 other people are also chuckling. you sad twat
@@phalspar Joe asked how can he do that ?(reference to killing soleimani) It is simply me wrapping up an answer in those lame comments I never understood people made quoting Joe. I never intended it to be funny.
Have a great day.
'I have no idea how the president processes his information'..... ha ha ha
Mike just put himself outside the Burns Focker circle of trust
I guess an ex-CIA, would actually say all this crap.
Iran has oil... lots and lots of oil.. Iran has natural gas..lots and lots of natural gas... hmmm...
Iran has less oil and NG than Syria, tmk.
This guy should be a politician. Says a whole lot with nothing being said.
Steve L it’s obvious he’s full of shit within 2 minutes of hearing him ramble. Joes feeding people shit.
I heard a whole lot 😂 like wtf do you mean? Did you even listen or you just heard what only your programed mind allowed in👌
@@DogeCoinTooTheMoon TRIGGERED
Kinda like Bernie Sanders
@@DogeCoinTooTheMoon after working for the government I truly realized how much people go overboard with conspiracy theories
This guy is overestimating himself
4 years later having the same conversation