I have an updated Longsword Masterclass video that came out today. ruclips.net/video/mJsBZ5jveAA/видео.htmlsi=kJyXo3isyIDdwgy1 This is more a video about how to properly approach fights with every weapon rather than just how to parry every weapon. It shows both parries and trading attacks and spacing. Give it a watch if you want some updated gameplay compared to this older video! Thanks for the support!
You made me get in to longsword because of this video and i murdered my first game. For new players: after a succesful parry press right mouse button twice to riposte 2 times.
@@drewdubose2941Mainly for preserving momentum. For example as a wizard running away from a melee class, it’s better to jump and cast a spell to try to invis or retaliate against the pursuer because just running would slow you down for the duration of the cast. Not sure about fighter since I don’t play him much but things like ranged weapon reloads definitely slow you down, so it’s better to jump and then start the reload to preserve some speed.
First! Thank you for the information, for the longest time I thought parry was a time thing, not knowing all I had to do was block then follow up. Been getting some clean fights because of it. Much love!
Thanks! These are really solid tips, definitely will try to incorporate into my own games. It might be helpful to mark the sections of the video with the weapon you're talking about so people can look up the weapon they're struggling against.
Yeah man! This video shows how to blocking most attacks when they’re attacking your head and torso. You’ll come across some better players that will drag attacks to your feet that need you to anticipate differently but I’m working on an updated video for y’all showing more parrying in PvP for different attacks
as a LS enjoyer, im very thankful of this video, i spent a lot of time in playtest 4 just me and my buddy killing each other on the spawn to train LS blocks and riposte, yet, i learned a lot of things in your video! keep it up will keep my eye on you for now on!
I always use one trick against fast enemies, or enemies that try to flee in general, bring yourself a secondary that gives you only -10 movement speed, and get them straight on. Had killed multiple archers closing the distance, and not letting them run and shoot, because of using this method.
The accuracy of hitboxes in this game is what sets this game apart from others IMO. Such a masterful mechanic locked behind a single weapon... what was Ironstate thinking? It makes other weapons seem like a simple hack and slash with some semblance of spacing required. Longsword changed how I thought about melee in this game and it feels like the perfect handshake between mastering perfect spacing as well as managing the hitboxes of various weapons. Watching this video made me realise how high of a skill ceiling this weapon could have; taking knowledge of various weapons' swing styles into account could mean the difference between a successful parry and your death. This weapon alone unlocks a whole world of melee mechanics that so few of the playerbase would actually discover and enjoy the sophistication of. Long live the longsword.
It'd be cool to see them incorporate some other weapons in the future to have a riposte mechanic like this as well. Even if some of them are just a shove back or something after a block. I could see something like that working well on Bardiche or spear, though spear certainly doesn't need anymore power loaded into it xD. Longsword for life!
Watched a couple videos and jumped into goblin caves with just an 8gold long sword killed another fighter with full green dark plate blue spear and tons of healing items i dodged the first two and then parried the last one Thank you for the guide
Honestly? I don't know if I agree with you on the Rogue point. I've been playing a lot of Fighter, and almost every time, I've managed to get a parry off on a rogue with dagger. The double-headshot riposte is like a fly swatter. Rapier, I have yet to see. Any chance you could cover the Spear? Both Skeleton and players. I often struggle against thrusting weapons the most. And if you notice any consistencies, arrows too. I've pulled off a few projectile parries this playtest, and they actually seem somewhat viable if you get them right.
That's fair man. I know I've died to many rogues this test for whatever reason. I will be attempting to get parry clips on spear whenever I find them lol. Skeletons and players alike! I'll post an individual video on the player spear parries if I get them. Skeleton spearmen I plan to get some recordings and put into a video like this but for PvE
I really like this but I think it's not fully finished. I block but I still get hit even If I am lined up correctly. Looks like you need to have the swords collide on a certain point to block, I hope it gets better next playtest. I really love the longsword, The attack animation is weird but I just found out about how to parry with it. :)
Yeah it's hard to align perfectly since the animation for the parry sticks your arms so far out. So it's very easy to take damage at the same time as landing a parry. Thankfully, it's usually arm damage we take when it's both damage and a parry at once cuz of it, so at least a bit reduced damage.
Thing to note is that the Crush ability of barbarian will absolutely destroy longsword parries. Especially with the bardiche... not many people run it atm since breaking chests is bugged though.
Wanted to know if you were active in early access and have the same success parrying, or if you felt like they changed the "hitbox" of the longsword at all to where you need to adjust your approach to different weapons, loved the video!
Yeah I've been putting out parry updates now and as I get accustomed to the new feel. It absolutely seems different now but I'm attributing to the servers not being consistent for now. Have many many clips of taking damage several frames ahead of animations and it's hard to parry something that is just magically changing position between the wind up animation and the attack animation hittin before it shows lol
Longsword Counterattack has 77-87 counterattack damage, while normal attack only has around 41! If you have a purple or higher quality sword, its initial damage will be close to 50, which is higher than any other weapon, and it will almost kill you when hit in the head
Man every goblin in that damn room was still alive! I was sitting at like 12 hp when you ran up there and yelled about everything being alive and escaped lmao. Glad we both gotta outta there! Was cool meeting up with someone that recognized me from the channel! Much love man
@@lubbylong3842 Lmao I figured when you got blasted by the archer walking around the corner. Saw the rocks fall while I was snagging the heal shrine and was like "Yes!! He got out!"
Obviously very late, but I just wanted to say that you can actually parry arrows! Of course that would stupid hard to do in a real fight, but I just wanted to mention it. Therron Keen made a video showcasing it in one of the earlier playtests
You can block anything that's a projectile we ended up finding out. Includes a lot of spells as well! Not sure about the skelly mage fireball but player spells for sure.
YO thank you so much this makes so much sense i just never thought of it I think im going to try to be a longsword main Edit does anyone know if the counter is considered a defense stance?
Hell yeah glad it helps! While blocking you're in a defensive stance. The riposte also counts as a defensive stance too! So you can get the benefit from the shield mastery perk during riposte! I made a perks/skills for longsword guide video the day before yesterday that might clear up any other questions you have. Or just feel free to keep asking anything on here!
What stat do you prioritize? I would assume strength, but I see people running max damage reduction and making up any lack of damage with how long they can survive in a fight. Love the videos, thanks for making them :)
Strength and Agility are the main prios for most of my gear. Agility actually helps get us some attack speed and some movement speed which is incredibly useful when going full plate. Damage reduction on plate is also always acceptable though since we play in a more defensive manner with longsword and the damage reduction is incredibly beneficial when you get to the higher %. So getting anything with str/agi/all attributes or focusing around damage reduction rolls while playing around using riposte for damage.
@@oggieson for me everything was insanely usefull and helpful.just dislike to play fighter with shield.pretty boring and slow gameplay. But after I saw your vid realized that wanna let second chance to this class and oh god it feels amazing and much more interesting then pdr and slayer
@@oggieson As it should. Longsword shouldn't be a hard counter to an entire class due to a mechanical error with it not being impacted by crush. Barbarian has to waste an entire perk just to be able to knock doors down (which druid and warlock can too) it may as well work properly for its combat effect as well.
Yup they sure didn't, but I've lost more to rogue's this playtest than every other by a large margin lol. So it was more of just a general observation of experience than anything that's all.
@@oggieson Don't get me wrong I have died to Rogues more than anyone else this playtest but there are very simple reasons for that. First and foremost there are just simply more Rogues this time around, it would be strange if another, less played class had a higher percentage of my deaths. That combined with the fact that, at least on the new map, a lot of players are exploiting the Double Jump + Crossbow combo to get free damage in and its not hard to see why Rogues are taking all of my lanterns.
@@kilikx1x That's a good point there really is just many many more of them. Didn't think about that fact at all, honestly. The double jump hand crossbow mayhem on the ruins map can get pretty outta hand too xD seen some goofy flying rogue battles in the air above me when I'm on that map these last two days lol
The general rule I started following was aim further left and up for almost all attacks and it worked very well in getting me to more consistently get the longsword into a proper parry position!
I know they said in the past they didn't want the game to revolve around a parry/counter system overall so I would imagine that's their justification behind it
@@oggieson....but why? With games like Mordhau/Chivalry/Mount & Blade etc that has become the new standard for melee combat, it's objectively better. Especially for a PvP centered game where a higher skill ceiling is appreciated??? It boggles my brain. Stupid fucking design
Damn dirty rouges! Some people tell me they have success parrying rogues by looking slightly downward during their stabs since that helps align the hilt of the longsword when blocking a bit better, but I didn't get a chance to test it. Unless they're using a short sword or rapier I don't try to parry rogues, just full send dps trade
The mecchanic is cool but the damage is huge, I think the dmg output should be nerfed a bit. Riposte damage is the same of the base attack and you do 2 of these in a very short manner ( considering also that you negate the enemy dmg by doing this as well) Overall good video explaining everything!!
I think they'd have to be very careful nerfing the riposte damage. Outside of the riposte, the normal attack chain actually has lower dps than the spear, halberd, falchion, and a couple other weapons. Playing with the longsword to use it other than defensively with parry/riposte seems to be a sure fire method of gimping your damage with the weapon lol. But we'll see if they feel the stats they got say it needs adjusted. I do know that the riposte was dealing over the amount of damage it was supposed to during playtest 5. It was dealing something like 186% damage rather than 150%. So that definitely needs fixed as I think 150% is an acceptable amount considering the skill check (blocking) required to access the damage potential riposte offers. Edit - Regardless of whether they do nerf it or not I think I'll forever be stuck using this weapon even if riposte hits like a noodle in the future xD Just such a cool feature to have in a game like DaD with the methodical combat system we have.
Bruh I feel like after seeing you block that arming sword with the longsword @ 2:45 This game is just not ready to be played. That is such a deviation from what you would expect to happen visually it's practically useless to have the combat be that way. Only people who are able to break the game down into it's "invisible parts" are going to come across this and this isn't even what the dev's want I assume. I hope by the time this game becomes playable we see some HUGE improvements in hit-detection and collision because as it stand and with my experience through this last play test, the higher end parts of the skill part of the game are just silly. That being said, good guide and thanks for sharing this with the community. Hopefully some people watch it and come back better for it, but honestly it shouldn't be this "invisible" to block strikes in the game. It should be way more intuitive.
Yeah there's a quite a few clips across this playtest like this one that I have recorded. I chalked it up more to the server instability than anything. But we'll see what changes they make when the get us back in the dungeon.
I swear something is different myself lol. But can't say for sure until the rust is shaken off better. But I switched from a 27" monitor to a 32" and that's also throwing me off so hard to say as well lol
Those are just keys I mapped to my mouse buttons so I could use them for skills lol. DaD wasn't liking the default mouse buttons assigned to the keys so had to swap them for something xD
The usual was Tarkov with the boys, but everyone has been burned outta that game lately lol. Play some League of Legends now and then as well. Play Scum with a buddy here and there as well and some Star Citizen (whenever that game is working at least xD). We get our group on Stellaris now and then too for some way too long game sessions lol. Then just some single player type games now and then like Bannerlord.
@@oggieson Oh bet. I spend about 90% of my time playing league when I play video games. (I don't like playing D@D alone and the only friend I have that plays it works a lot so he doesn't get on much, so I don't play much.) If you ever wanna play League toss me an add. Ign is Destaati
Only the same things people have been saying with Mordhau and Chivalry games. But really those have so much more going on I don't see how they'll help too much except to get a fix for having a longsword on your screen lol. Still gonna end up playing Mordhau for the first time myself I think as I wait for Ironmace to get us back on here xD
Hard to do still. Longbow is a bit overtuned right now feels like. Gonna try and pool some clips together to help give a small video for approaching rangers, but if you have gear you can attempt to trade ranged fights with longbows or use hand axes along with sprint to help gap close into melee while dodging.
Can I be a tank with the longsword as well? Because the longsword has that 1v2 potential that the arming sword doesnt and has more reach. My only concern is that move speed and the action speed gets sacrificed by focusing on tankier equipment, would this be a problem with the longsword?
Definitely not anymore. 2h fighter is genuinely in the worst spot it's ever been in the game because Ironmace nerfed pdr/projectile resist on plate and you simply don't have the stats to be a tank compared to sword and shield fighter. You end up with much lower value to the team imo
@@oggieson I decided to rethink just hours ago, I did 2H and i kept getting hurt alot, The shield is way too valuable right now to lose it, I did a sword and shield playstyle and to my surprise, I survived a minute long fight to the point and won it with my entire team alive, I had barb and rogue beating me up but I kept blocking their attacks and retaliate with two hits after counter attack against them to the point they had to back off because im hurting them significantly as well so I helped my team finished the left behind cleric who was using mace and shield, He was well equipped and also knew how to shield which is how he also kind of lasted long as well.
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I have an updated Longsword Masterclass video that came out today. ruclips.net/video/mJsBZ5jveAA/видео.htmlsi=kJyXo3isyIDdwgy1
This is more a video about how to properly approach fights with every weapon rather than just how to parry every weapon. It shows both parries and trading attacks and spacing. Give it a watch if you want some updated gameplay compared to this older video! Thanks for the support!
You made me get in to longsword because of this video and i murdered my first game. For new players: after a succesful parry press right mouse button twice to riposte 2 times.
Hell yeah buddy!
by parry you mean blocking their strike with right click?
@@badmana5768 Yes
u only have to click and hold after the block ull do both ripostes anyway
@@badmana5768 u block ok?
If ur block is successful. Immediately release and click right click again. U will do that riposte animation
The jump attacks are nerfed bigly but jumping still helps with some other things that slow you down
Can you explain how?
@@drewdubose2941Mainly for preserving momentum. For example as a wizard running away from a melee class, it’s better to jump and cast a spell to try to invis or retaliate against the pursuer because just running would slow you down for the duration of the cast. Not sure about fighter since I don’t play him much but things like ranged weapon reloads definitely slow you down, so it’s better to jump and then start the reload to preserve some speed.
@@drewdubose2941 seconded how is jump attacking nerfed lol
thirded, how were they nerfed?
First! Thank you for the information, for the longest time I thought parry was a time thing, not knowing all I had to do was block then follow up. Been getting some clean fights because of it. Much love!
Hell yeah! Keep cleaning up the map buddy!
Thanks! These are really solid tips, definitely will try to incorporate into my own games. It might be helpful to mark the sections of the video with the weapon you're talking about so people can look up the weapon they're struggling against.
Good point I should have added chapters before posting! I'll try and add them in when I get home later on!
Absolutely love this guide. I never used to be able to hit my parrys but my success rate has really improved. Subcribing to see more insane swordplay!
Thanks. The arming sword and axe have been giving me trouble.
Yeah man! This video shows how to blocking most attacks when they’re attacking your head and torso. You’ll come across some better players that will drag attacks to your feet that need you to anticipate differently but I’m working on an updated video for y’all showing more parrying in PvP for different attacks
Been practicing LS the last few days in goblin / 3's, nothing more satisfying than a successful parry lol
Agreed 100%
I LOVE LONGSWORD AND I LOVE YOU
Much love buddy!
Best Longsword guide as always.
Thanks buddy!
as a LS enjoyer, im very thankful of this video, i spent a lot of time in playtest 4 just me and my buddy killing each other on the spawn to train LS blocks and riposte, yet, i learned a lot of things in your video! keep it up will keep my eye on you for now on!
I wish my buddies were Chad enough to do this with me
Literally that's pretty crazy lol Glad you picked up some tips from here!
solid advice will start to use that jump into attack thing very useful!
Go get them kills brotha!
Back watching this video again after Early Access dropped and it’s still super relevant…great tips!!!
Glad they're still useful!
I always use one trick against fast enemies, or enemies that try to flee in general, bring yourself a secondary that gives you only -10 movement speed, and get them straight on. Had killed multiple archers closing the distance, and not letting them run and shoot, because of using this method.
This is a good tip! I shall try it as well!
Thats a rlly good tip!!! Woah
The accuracy of hitboxes in this game is what sets this game apart from others IMO. Such a masterful mechanic locked behind a single weapon... what was Ironstate thinking? It makes other weapons seem like a simple hack and slash with some semblance of spacing required. Longsword changed how I thought about melee in this game and it feels like the perfect handshake between mastering perfect spacing as well as managing the hitboxes of various weapons. Watching this video made me realise how high of a skill ceiling this weapon could have; taking knowledge of various weapons' swing styles into account could mean the difference between a successful parry and your death. This weapon alone unlocks a whole world of melee mechanics that so few of the playerbase would actually discover and enjoy the sophistication of. Long live the longsword.
It'd be cool to see them incorporate some other weapons in the future to have a riposte mechanic like this as well. Even if some of them are just a shove back or something after a block. I could see something like that working well on Bardiche or spear, though spear certainly doesn't need anymore power loaded into it xD. Longsword for life!
Nice vid. That 1 v 2 tip was a Mordhau classic, block one attack then use that riposte to hit the other unsuspecting guy
nice one Oggie been wanting to try the Longsword and wanted a couple of tips and you timed it right with your last couple of vids cheers dude!
Awesome man! Have fun with it!
Parrying looks really fun and is what pushed me to get the game
It is my favorite part of the game for sure!
I know im late but DAMN 5:45 The way you crack his skull and the pot in one fell swoop was soo damn satisfying lol
Lol that part is pretty clean agreed. Never outright noticed it myself either xD
This video has helped me make the decision to focus on fighter for awhile. Good shit man take my like.
Much appreciated buddy! Enjoy the way of the longsword for a bit!
4:19 How nice of you to help that man get to his nap-time!
Also "Home" and "Pg Down" buttons for the skills? What kind of a menace are you?
Lol! It didn't like my mouse button so I changed them to some crazy jank to make it work lmao
I saw you in one of my games! A pleasure and I hope you're enjoying the playtest
Hell yeah! Playtest has been a blast despite the connection issues, at least for me! Hopefully you've had some good success and fun yourself buddy!
Who’s here after full release?
Watched a couple videos and jumped into goblin caves with just an 8gold long sword killed another fighter with full green dark plate blue spear and tons of healing items i dodged the first two and then parried the last one Thank you for the guide
Glad it's helpful! That's a good kill buddy! Wp
Base gear me won against a purple arming sword geared fighter today because of this class. Thank you!
Hell yeah good stuff dude!
Honestly? I don't know if I agree with you on the Rogue point. I've been playing a lot of Fighter, and almost every time, I've managed to get a parry off on a rogue with dagger. The double-headshot riposte is like a fly swatter. Rapier, I have yet to see.
Any chance you could cover the Spear? Both Skeleton and players. I often struggle against thrusting weapons the most. And if you notice any consistencies, arrows too. I've pulled off a few projectile parries this playtest, and they actually seem somewhat viable if you get them right.
That's fair man. I know I've died to many rogues this test for whatever reason.
I will be attempting to get parry clips on spear whenever I find them lol. Skeletons and players alike! I'll post an individual video on the player spear parries if I get them. Skeleton spearmen I plan to get some recordings and put into a video like this but for PvE
Algorithm is crazy just spent the past hour trying to learn this weapon
Hell yeah keep at it then! Longsword is big fun
We need part 2 for those dirty feet attackers, its so hard to parry
Really solid video my dude! These are always super helpful. Cant wait to get more consistent with the block
hell yeah! Keep practicin man, incredibly satisfying to land them parries and get riposte kills!
Very nice video. I would appreciate an updated video for current meta and mby some new tips but it is still very helpful ♥
I can’t wait till the day I can finally find Fulgor and absolutely DESTROY with my fookin lightning sword 💛
Man the things I would do to get a Fulgor
awesome tips
Hope they help!
I really like this but I think it's not fully finished. I block but I still get hit even If I am lined up correctly.
Looks like you need to have the swords collide on a certain point to block, I hope it gets better next playtest.
I really love the longsword, The attack animation is weird but I just found out about how to parry with it. :)
Yeah it's hard to align perfectly since the animation for the parry sticks your arms so far out. So it's very easy to take damage at the same time as landing a parry. Thankfully, it's usually arm damage we take when it's both damage and a parry at once cuz of it, so at least a bit reduced damage.
@@oggieson Right.
This game is done. It won't get finished.
A video with parries for pve would be nice, mainly spear/axe skellies, wraith, champ, and centaur
Hopefully I'll have it out this afternoon so people can see it and maybe get some use out of it before the playtest ends tonight!
Thing to note is that the Crush ability of barbarian will absolutely destroy longsword parries. Especially with the bardiche... not many people run it atm since breaking chests is bugged though.
Yes it definitely is a slept on perk by a lotta barbs out there
I love longsword. I put all defense skills. And the "next defense is success" perk. All to use that sexy riposte
Riposte is literally the best part of the game to me lol so hell yeah man!
Wanted to know if you were active in early access and have the same success parrying, or if you felt like they changed the "hitbox" of the longsword at all to where you need to adjust your approach to different weapons, loved the video!
Yeah I've been putting out parry updates now and as I get accustomed to the new feel. It absolutely seems different now but I'm attributing to the servers not being consistent for now. Have many many clips of taking damage several frames ahead of animations and it's hard to parry something that is just magically changing position between the wind up animation and the attack animation hittin before it shows lol
Nice video! Keep it up when dark and darker comes back!
I'll be here waiting with full faith in Ironmace to get us back in the crypts!
@@oggieson it's not looking good, dude. Files are almost definitely stolen.
Longsword Counterattack has 77-87 counterattack damage, while normal attack only has around 41! If you have a purple or higher quality sword, its initial damage will be close to 50, which is higher than any other weapon, and it will almost kill you when hit in the head
Basic attacks deal 100% weapon damage and the ripostes deal 150% so with a headshot on riposte the damage really can get pretty nuts!
Great content!
Appreciate hearing that buddy!
Watching this before opening the game every day until I git gud.
this man is a godly player
hey dude! i was RatOgre i was the barb in Goblin caves. i had to take the cave exit cause i almost died! it was awesome seeing you ingame!
Man every goblin in that damn room was still alive! I was sitting at like 12 hp when you ran up there and yelled about everything being alive and escaped lmao. Glad we both gotta outta there!
Was cool meeting up with someone that recognized me from the channel! Much love man
@@oggieson bro i was gonna stay and fight but i had actually 2 hp left and i had to book it. i was actually about to die to the poison xD
@@lubbylong3842 Lmao I figured when you got blasted by the archer walking around the corner. Saw the rocks fall while I was snagging the heal shrine and was like "Yes!! He got out!"
Very helpful video my guy
Glad it helped man!
Absolutely amazing video bro
Thanks buddy!
Obviously very late, but I just wanted to say that you can actually parry arrows! Of course that would stupid hard to do in a real fight, but I just wanted to mention it. Therron Keen made a video showcasing it in one of the earlier playtests
You can block anything that's a projectile we ended up finding out. Includes a lot of spells as well! Not sure about the skelly mage fireball but player spells for sure.
you a g fosho my guy i been watching for ab 3 days now imma sub fs also should everyone else i can see you blowing up if this game takes off fs
I appreciate the sentiment and the sub man! Much love!
Great tips! Lol thank you!
You show me the way of the longsword.
Follow me longsword brotha!
Amazing video brother. Well done.
I appreciate that man!
Did you played KingdomCome Deliverence before?
Damn you did really good parry guide !
Yeah I have. Loved that game so much
Thanks for making this!
I gotchu! There is some updated individual weapon stuff, but pretty sure this is still pretty useful overall in EA
YO thank you so much this makes so much sense i just never thought of it I think im going to try to be a longsword main Edit does anyone know if the counter is considered a defense stance?
Hell yeah glad it helps! While blocking you're in a defensive stance. The riposte also counts as a defensive stance too! So you can get the benefit from the shield mastery perk during riposte! I made a perks/skills for longsword guide video the day before yesterday that might clear up any other questions you have. Or just feel free to keep asking anything on here!
@@oggieson pog im gonna go check it out then
Goated vid
well done my lord
Thank you kind sir!
What stat do you prioritize? I would assume strength, but I see people running max damage reduction and making up any lack of damage with how long they can survive in a fight.
Love the videos, thanks for making them :)
Strength and Agility are the main prios for most of my gear. Agility actually helps get us some attack speed and some movement speed which is incredibly useful when going full plate.
Damage reduction on plate is also always acceptable though since we play in a more defensive manner with longsword and the damage reduction is incredibly beneficial when you get to the higher %. So getting anything with str/agi/all attributes or focusing around damage reduction rolls while playing around using riposte for damage.
Great vid!!!
Appreciate it man!
Thx for guide!
Hopefully it helps! Need to do an updated one of these since the playerbase has adapted substantially to playing against longsword gamers
@@oggieson for me everything was insanely usefull and helpful.just dislike to play fighter with shield.pretty boring and slow gameplay. But after I saw your vid realized that wanna let second chance to this class and oh god it feels amazing and much more interesting then pdr and slayer
you made me die to a lot of gobos trying to practice this my friend
Practice brotha practice! I died to so many damn skeletons in playtest 3 learning to use this weapon lol
You can parry archer arrows if you're quick enough, and boy do they panic if you manage it.
Parried a few player arrows over the weekend lol. They always freak out for sure.
Crazy that crush on a barbarian should be a hard counter to longsword parrying, but the opposite is true.
This would legitimately make longsword unusable in 99/100 barb match ups
@@oggieson As it should. Longsword shouldn't be a hard counter to an entire class due to a mechanical error with it not being impacted by crush. Barbarian has to waste an entire perk just to be able to knock doors down (which druid and warlock can too) it may as well work properly for its combat effect as well.
great guide
these are great tips but i'm having trouble parrying lutes can you make a follow up
Operation lute decimation is a go! I shall attempt to parry the bard's axe!
You mention that Rogues are "a little stronger" in this playtest when talking about melee fights... but rogue didn't get any melee buffs at all.
Yup they sure didn't, but I've lost more to rogue's this playtest than every other by a large margin lol. So it was more of just a general observation of experience than anything that's all.
@@oggieson Don't get me wrong I have died to Rogues more than anyone else this playtest but there are very simple reasons for that.
First and foremost there are just simply more Rogues this time around, it would be strange if another, less played class had a higher percentage of my deaths.
That combined with the fact that, at least on the new map, a lot of players are exploiting the Double Jump + Crossbow combo to get free damage in and its not hard to see why Rogues are taking all of my lanterns.
@@kilikx1x That's a good point there really is just many many more of them. Didn't think about that fact at all, honestly.
The double jump hand crossbow mayhem on the ruins map can get pretty outta hand too xD seen some goofy flying rogue battles in the air above me when I'm on that map these last two days lol
Great video. Nice work.
Thanks buddy! Appreciate it!
so in general every attack that comes from above, you have to aim high and left or high and right?
The general rule I started following was aim further left and up for almost all attacks and it worked very well in getting me to more consistently get the longsword into a proper parry position!
Great video
Thank you!
Great video thank you 💪 😎
You're welcome! Hopefully helps ya!
Nice video, dude. From a dirty Rouge
Lol! Keep on shankin fools Shanker!
Nice video man very helpful
Glad it's helpful buddy!
I just do NOT understand why the devs did not make more weapons if not the majority of weapons able to parry as the longsword does
I know they said in the past they didn't want the game to revolve around a parry/counter system overall so I would imagine that's their justification behind it
@@oggieson....but why? With games like Mordhau/Chivalry/Mount & Blade etc that has become the new standard for melee combat, it's objectively better. Especially for a PvP centered game where a higher skill ceiling is appreciated??? It boggles my brain. Stupid fucking design
you're a god
I miss this module in the Ruins map 6:01
Loved that module
Longsword 🎉
Longsword for life!
Really great content
Glad it's well received!
So basically everything can be partied but Rouges & qlways aim up and to the left while blocking. Got it.
Damn dirty rouges! Some people tell me they have success parrying rogues by looking slightly downward during their stabs since that helps align the hilt of the longsword when blocking a bit better, but I didn't get a chance to test it. Unless they're using a short sword or rapier I don't try to parry rogues, just full send dps trade
Extend the playtest to throughout the weekend.
Man that'd be a dream come true for this playtest after everything they've gone through to get us on the game!
Great vid thanks man
Thanks man! Hope it helps some!
long sword just feels right
Feels so good
The mecchanic is cool but the damage is huge, I think the dmg output should be nerfed a bit.
Riposte damage is the same of the base attack and you do 2 of these in a very short manner ( considering also that you negate the enemy dmg by doing this as well)
Overall good video explaining everything!!
I think they'd have to be very careful nerfing the riposte damage. Outside of the riposte, the normal attack chain actually has lower dps than the spear, halberd, falchion, and a couple other weapons. Playing with the longsword to use it other than defensively with parry/riposte seems to be a sure fire method of gimping your damage with the weapon lol.
But we'll see if they feel the stats they got say it needs adjusted. I do know that the riposte was dealing over the amount of damage it was supposed to during playtest 5. It was dealing something like 186% damage rather than 150%. So that definitely needs fixed as I think 150% is an acceptable amount considering the skill check (blocking) required to access the damage potential riposte offers.
Edit - Regardless of whether they do nerf it or not I think I'll forever be stuck using this weapon even if riposte hits like a noodle in the future xD Just such a cool feature to have in a game like DaD with the methodical combat system we have.
Bro you should start a dojo series for the longsword, ur literally creating a subclass for fighter 😂
Lol! That could be a good idea! I'll see what I can come up with along those lines! Thanks brotha!
what do you press after a parry do you hold right click or you press left click?
You press right click again to do the riposte attacks. Press and hold for both
Bruh I feel like after seeing you block that arming sword with the longsword @ 2:45 This game is just not ready to be played. That is such a deviation from what you would expect to happen visually it's practically useless to have the combat be that way. Only people who are able to break the game down into it's "invisible parts" are going to come across this and this isn't even what the dev's want I assume. I hope by the time this game becomes playable we see some HUGE improvements in hit-detection and collision because as it stand and with my experience through this last play test, the higher end parts of the skill part of the game are just silly.
That being said, good guide and thanks for sharing this with the community. Hopefully some people watch it and come back better for it, but honestly it shouldn't be this "invisible" to block strikes in the game. It should be way more intuitive.
Yeah there's a quite a few clips across this playtest like this one that I have recorded. I chalked it up more to the server instability than anything. But we'll see what changes they make when the get us back in the dungeon.
Updated one for this playtest? I could be crazy but it feels less consistent in ea, maybe I’m just rusty though
I swear something is different myself lol. But can't say for sure until the rust is shaken off better. But I switched from a 27" monitor to a 32" and that's also throwing me off so hard to say as well lol
Noob question but how do you activate the riposte swings?
Right click after a successful block!
Do blocking perks affect parry attacks? For example shield mastery for blocking and increase action speed after.
Yes they do. Shield mastery and barricade are just takes for Longsword perk wise
thanks good vid
Gotcha man! Hope it helps!
Can we talk about your ability key binds
xD
I have never seen guys who pick "home" and "Page down" keys for skills. why do you pick them?
Those are just keys I mapped to my mouse buttons so I could use them for skills lol. DaD wasn't liking the default mouse buttons assigned to the keys so had to swap them for something xD
when are they going to wipe this play test?
Looks like the play test is ending today 4/19 11pm est
W video
W comment!
What do you play when D@D is down?
The usual was Tarkov with the boys, but everyone has been burned outta that game lately lol. Play some League of Legends now and then as well. Play Scum with a buddy here and there as well and some Star Citizen (whenever that game is working at least xD). We get our group on Stellaris now and then too for some way too long game sessions lol. Then just some single player type games now and then like Bannerlord.
@@oggieson Oh bet. I spend about 90% of my time playing league when I play video games. (I don't like playing D@D alone and the only friend I have that plays it works a lot so he doesn't get on much, so I don't play much.) If you ever wanna play League toss me an add. Ign is Destaati
Do you know of any games that are similar enough to DaD that we can practice between playtests for our melee combat?
Only the same things people have been saying with Mordhau and Chivalry games. But really those have so much more going on I don't see how they'll help too much except to get a fix for having a longsword on your screen lol.
Still gonna end up playing Mordhau for the first time myself I think as I wait for Ironmace to get us back on here xD
And how you beat kiting ranger as longsword
Hard to do still. Longbow is a bit overtuned right now feels like. Gonna try and pool some clips together to help give a small video for approaching rangers, but if you have gear you can attempt to trade ranged fights with longbows or use hand axes along with sprint to help gap close into melee while dodging.
How do u start the parry attack after u block an attack?
Right click again after you block an attack with the longsword
Kinda funny how much you are stressed when you fight though lol you're shaking sometimes
Can I be a tank with the longsword as well? Because the longsword has that 1v2 potential that the arming sword doesnt and has more reach. My only concern is that move speed and the action speed gets sacrificed by focusing on tankier equipment, would this be a problem with the longsword?
Definitely not anymore. 2h fighter is genuinely in the worst spot it's ever been in the game because Ironmace nerfed pdr/projectile resist on plate and you simply don't have the stats to be a tank compared to sword and shield fighter. You end up with much lower value to the team imo
@@oggieson I decided to rethink just hours ago, I did 2H and i kept getting hurt alot, The shield is way too valuable right now to lose it, I did a sword and shield playstyle and to my surprise, I survived a minute long fight to the point and won it with my entire team alive, I had barb and rogue beating me up but I kept blocking their attacks and retaliate with two hits after counter attack against them to the point they had to back off because im hurting them significantly as well so I helped my team finished the left behind cleric who was using mace and shield, He was well equipped and also knew how to shield which is how he also kind of lasted long as well.
you can parry arrows
what the hell, i set brigthness on 3, and can't see nothing, but in this video it is very shiny. Feel bad 🙄
I've had a couple people mention this now. I'm really not sure what's up I literally just set the brightness to 3 and it was much better for me lol
How do you activate the riposte and does it work with a shield?
Does not work with a shield, no. But you right click again after a successful block with the longsword to initiate the riposte attacks.