How Are We Making This 1967 Chevelle ALL WHEEL DRIVE? - Part 3
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- Опубликовано: 27 мар 2023
- The video you were all waiting for! Danny explains how he plans on designing the front suspension for the AWD 1967 Chevelle Nascar build. We also worked to get the ride height just right to really visualize how the car is going to look.
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Make it a Smokey Yunick paint scheme black and gold.....your doing a awesome job Danny good to see Liv
I love how you all throw humor into the video. This will be one badass car when completed.
Thanks Brad! Always having a good time in the shop.
Don't cut the fenders. Build ur frame to fit .
That’s the plan
No idea how these Mickey Thompson tires would react to negative camber up front, but a little of it maybe gets you more clearance. Guess it also depends on the planned use of the Chevelle, dragstrip or fast through corners? And that means both left and right turns!
You guys are building my dream I have had for 15 years! Im so glad I found your page! Definitely keeping these videos saved for the future
66 - 67 Chevelles are badass, but this is going to be Asphalt Ripping! Best project on the Tube!
Its gonna be awesome when the contraption comes together
I am just glad the Ice Cream Truck showed up!
The Chevelle is looking good guys.
Thanks Cj
@@GnarlySpeedShop You're welcome guys
Great episode! I used to love awd dragsters back in the day (T.V. Tommy Ivo comes to mind). Very cool!
A good way to make old school Chevelle awd is to use S-10 4x4 front frame section then add your covers, and your rack & pinion. You could use the S-10 as a template and build your framework from that. We used that to make an 84 Regal awd and also a 66 GTO worked great. Good luck the geometry can really get you.
Ice cream 🍦 break!!! 😂 looks like a super fun build.
With a tank of gas and the battery in the trunk that should offset it. But I think someone has said in an earlier episode it'll have a four link? If you adapt a Tahoe 4 by 4 front frame half it should have the diff. mount. Or possibly help with the fabrication process?Lighter isn't always better but there's always ratchet straps
This is going to be such a cool build. I'll be watching it from start to finish. Can't wait!
Thanks Jeff! 😊
Can't wait for the next episode!
Looks awesome guys
Thing is rad
Thanks Chris!
I wish they made those wheels in 17 inch. Like the style. Can’t wait to see the end result.
I really like this build becouse I've had a 70 chrvellle 3 67's & A 67 Elcameno. My favorite was the SS called the (Yellow Turtle) 72 Corvet Yellow, with A tuch of pourl, at time It was the fastest car in town. I spent most of my time stock car raceing. Good Times..
Only in Southern Cali, an Ice cream truck, really cool! Your 67 is going to be WICKED. The C6 suspension is a great idea. I can't wait to see every step of your build. Really like your tri 5s too.
Thanks so much Ronald! 😊
Awesome!
What I'm going to do for my 1972 Nova is make it all-wheel-drive too, I've got the front end off of a Chevrolet Canyon all-wheel drive Truck and I'm going to graft that front-end right to my Nova front end it will be much easier if you done the canyon truck is already four-wheel drive and has rack and pinion steering I'm just welding the front end on like it's a Vega or Mustang 2 front end..
Very cool! We’re gonna give this C6 suspension idea a try and see what we can do! Good luck with your build :)
An amazing build!..you guys are so entertaining!.local bruce.
good for you guys wishing you two the best good luck !!!
Absolutely LOVE this build! Looking forward to seeing all the details on what you use and how you do it.
Not sure if you've 4 linked the rear end in that thing given I just started watching but given the awd and assuming that you're going to be running a 50/50 drive bias, a decent amount of anti-squat in the rear end would make that set up hook harder than most independent setups. Food for thought, loving the build so far and will definitely be following to see her rip down the strip!
Looking great so far. Think this is gonna turn out better than I expected. You are awesome, can't wait for the next one!
Can’t wait to see finished, love that year chevelle
Looking forward to seeing this evolve…you guys are killin it !!!😎👍🏻
It happened twice! I'm sticking with Rocky, short for Rocky Road. P.S. most driveshaft/axle shops should be able to make axles what ever length you need.
The car is really cool, what a great group of people working together, you make such a great team, love watching you all PS liv is still beautiful ❤❤❤
You will have more front tire clearance without so much positive camber. Looking forward to seeing more on this build.
You are absolutely correct. Thanks for watching Rebeldryver
The stance will be lower than that once you wire it up and put the drivetrain and fuel system.
I usually use 3 hole cement blocks for the weight transfer 😊
777 Like a lucky slot machine
a company called RCV performance products makes custom half shafts...give them a call...usa company..they are out of chicago, Illinois
Beautiful car
Man.. Danny doesn't play around, he likes to get the ball rolling 🤣
He gets sh*t done! 😆👍
Gonna be pretty Gnarly 👌
Trailblazer SS AWD drive line might be helpful for references
I’m doing something very similar but on a 62 ford falcon platform. Since the old bird had inadequate suspension up front, I just did an entire front clip swap and built the rest of the frame myself. Still on a budget so a lot of stock components will be used during phase one. I can’t wait to see how your build goes, I may get some good ideas for phase 2.
You know what would put this build off the edge? Duramax power!
I guess 503 or 568 I look forward to finding out keep up the good work
Liv contact Derek from vice grip garage for hood braces for Jenny truck that prevent the hood buckling at the hinge.
Man, that is going to be a wicked ride! My initial take is that it should work out, with some custom work. Weight is going to be a consideration since the front end of the Chevelle is quite a bit heavier. Your coil over spring weight selection might be a big consideration. Good luck, am looking forward to watching this one.
looks like a 💩load of work ahead of you cant wait to see the final results and how it drives?! 🤷♂️🤔👍👍
Maybe flaring the wheel wells or rolling them 🤷🏽♂️👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻😎
Look into Protean Electric. They are approaching US Installers for AWD Hybrid Retrofit projects. Your Follow up Project would be an awesome video. D
Hey man just seen the thumbnail and u earned a sub never seen a all wheel drive chevelle And love it . Can't wait to see the rest if the build .. guessing L s turbo ?
Thanks for the Sub Robert. We will have the engine and trans arriving in a few weeks. Stay tuned. It's not a LS
Hey gang just a thought here. You were trying to figure out a number for the door. How about going to the vin number and see what day of the month that your Muscle Car was built. My Ford Mustang was built on 12/12/69. Number. 273,485. Still road worthy. I dig your rides! I’m a Hot Wheels fan so I put a 69 on the lower rear quarter panel with a large Hot Wheels painted just above it. Can you maybe let me know what the build date was. And if you have already decided on a number. Groovy. Papa Mustang
Some guy did a 80-81 Cutlass with Bravado stuff. He chained it to his garage for an AWD burnout. LS powered, he's had it on the strip.....check him out!! I prefer your Chevelle, as I have an el Camino..
Im trying to figure out exactly how much lower the front end will be after the engine is installed 🙃, you will have to cut out the front fenders 😊
It would be nice if Liv could continue her own channel again. I didn't watch her to watch some dude take over her channel. He owes her a lot.
Agree
Kartek, McKensie’s, Fortin transmissions. Many off-road racing places in Southern California that do custom CV axles.
We will check them out. Thanks for the recommendation
How much difference is there between a syclone front diff and a escalade? Very cool project!will the weight of an engine/transmission affect front ride height?
If you are going to run front coilovers what was the point of shortening the front coils? Just asking. What happened to the axles that were from the corvette? Would they have not worked?
My friends and I used to sneak into the Drive-Ins in the trunk of whoever's car had the most gas in the tank. Yes I'm that "old".
I bet you are dropping in the new Chevy crate...
ZZ632 / 1000HP ✌️🙂
That is if you can make enough room for that monster 😮
Have to ask, why not start with a early 2000's Tahoe chassis and lighten it. Wheelbase is within one inch, and it can be modified much easier to lighten and work. Not to mention cost. I imagine the end result on your build may be worth it, but just figuring geometry vs. factory is one heck of a challenge. Or you could just get a frame section and splice it on.
We definitely thought of sectioning on the front from another vehicle. It's just too bulky looking and for our a race car goals. You are correct it would be the most inexpensive way to go. We like a challenge and we will learn so much from it all. Thanks for watching John
You said sidepipes are you going to build boom tubes for the Chevelle?
You should get a set of fiberglass fenders and if you have to cut them it will be easy to cut them and glass the wheel lips back on them also I'd paint it red white and blue with a sixtys panel paint job my buddy had his chevy 2 drag car a few different colors but the red white and blue looked the best. I'd love to be the guy who paints it. Another friend of mine had a car in the world of wheels it was white with stripes and every candy color was used and where one color blended into the other it made a 3rd color blue blended into red made purple it was over 80 different colors a famous painter in Louisiana painted it J.D. Woods the name of the car was stormbringger a song by deep purple . Loving the car you guys are living the dream.your friend from Louisiana Rick 427.
Thanks for some ideas Richard. Red white and blue is always a great thing 🇺🇸
The reason your tires are hitting the fender corners is that the A-body suspension has like 3" of positive scrub radius. They're not simply turning--they're actually swinging around in a big arc. I recommend you pay close attention to the scrub radius of the new suspension and try to get it close to zero. This will require new wheels with more positive offset but it will be very worth it. In fact, it might be considered necessary, given that you're now driving those wheels. Huge positive scrub with driven wheels is a recipe for bad things, I think. I believe some front wheel drive cars actually have negative scrub radius.
I don't know about modern Corvettes but the C4 originally had 1/2" scrub and then they revised it to zero in 1988.
Also, does that wheel actually fit over the Vette spindle?
We are using rear C6 LG Drag spindles for a 15inch wheel with a little custom machining to get the KPI scrub radius close to Zero as possible. I have been doing months of research on this topic alone. It's super complex, but it sounds like you have some good knowledge of this. Any technical input is welcome here. The steering geometry will be tricky. We are currently Learning about Ackerman angle.
I don't follow regarding the machining of the spindles but from what I can see, it looks like their inclination is fairly low. I know the C6 fronts are just under 9 degrees and I'm guessing the rears are less than that. This being the case, there's no way that wheel/tire combo is going to work out to zero scrub.
From how those wheels are positioned on the stock Chevelle suspension, I'd guess they're zero offset? For reference, the later C4 uses front spindles with a huge 14 degree (or something around this) KPI and it still needs wheels with 56mm (2.2") positive offset to achieve its zero scrub.
I know you have a bunch of dough tied up in parts already and changing course could be a tough pill to swallow but I think your end goal is worth making sure it's done right. The suspension parts could be just fine as-is--you just need some really deep wheels to fit over it. Then the issue becomes clearance between wheel and a-arm while turning, made worse by the high positive offset and the reduced wheel diameter. I think you gotta get that suspension in a jig and start mocking it up with extreme prejudice.
Regarding Ackerman, I'll say that it's a somewhat debatable topic. Some people will say it's not too terribly important at all. More Ackerman effect makes low speed driving more pleasant but doesn't necessarily provide any benefit at "race speed" when tire slip angles tend to negate its effect on handling. Again using the Vette as reference, they give it very little Ackerman effect. Then they have to ameliorate all the boomers complaining about how the tires chirp as they're pulling out of their garages and whatnot...
don't lower the springs you need to keep the exhaust off the ground and the car will road walk with a off level stance
Guess I should've watched the whole video first.
We're there's a will, there's a way.. this is going to be badass... just wondering did you calculate the weight of engine etc. For the stance your looking for.. just wondering. .. guys are doing fantastic
I think coil-overs are adjustable.
Olivia is to Gnarly Speed what Stevie Nicks was to Fleetwood Mac
Should have used a chevy s10 truck frame. Or cyclone???
You need to try to get a hold of smokey yunick he had a car just like that when it was a black and gold 13
Cut a coil out of the springs
Any progress on this?
How are You going to lower It with no engine and trans?
Really cool to watch this, nothing like thinking outside of the box. Although, i don't think it is going to take a lot of power to blow up that front rear assembly. Sticky tires + power = broken rears ... they used to say the original T56's would take lots of power, but from experience, Slicks + 550 HP = Blown stock T56 ....
Olivia has a Goodie.. 🍧
They sell Blocks and shackles and hangers to lower and raise your ride although I have done what you are about to do it’s cheaper to get the parts and do it correctly and it won’t be weak but in my 54 years of living drag school they told me i did not need to be there showed me how two time a blower and a front and rear differentials and put Dana lockers in and Detroit lockers in the transmission and transfer case and sent me home my granddad had a used car lot and my dad that raised me had keys two the local Chevrolet dealership who sponsored us
NICE!!
Thank you!
Ouch white hot. Did you take the temper out?
The gear in the rackinpinon is fragile. We striped out ower steering twice in one session!
Trailblazer ss front clip if you were going ls might be the easier way
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Update on the lemans
Coming next week!
Check Photos or videos of the Smokey Yunick Chevelle it was so fast. And so much engineering NASCAR banned it from there racing tracks
Widebody ! just cut inter lip off cut and move outer lip out 2 inch and down inch like rear fender Corvette same year as vett suspension you got or fender flares like fast and furious red Corvette p.s. we Wana see you do Donuts at hoonigans
Its a great project, brother and wish to see it all done and running yet I wonder, why torching the springs to lower it... When u dont have ur engine in yet! Compression in those springs are to lift whole front end of car with engine and all accessories. You should have waited till it was all plugged in then check your stance instead of ruining your springs. Also you talk highly os suspension geometry and making your very own design, great... Then work that out to have your wheel choice fit in your car body without cutting it when its all body work free and primed and ready to be painted!
We just needed to establish the ride height we wanted. We will then clamp the frame to the jig. To build the tubular front end w coilover
@@GnarlySpeedShop well with coilovers and ability going high and low as much as u want, that d be a perfect choice... Especially AWD suspension settings are a whole different deal than how rear wheels are set up! Good luck and Im following this build since you bought it!
if you put limiting straps on it suspension, you would still have gas.
Body in the trunk..well...he is Italian after all. lol
Parke bishop of bishop built rides did an awd Nova for sema .
Will have to check that out!
I'd go with the number 67
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So arent you forgetting to put a mock-up engine in to determine the correct ride height and steering?
Just wondering Regards from Ody Slim
Hey ody.. We are just getting the car to ride height so we can lock the car frame to the jig at the desired ride height. We will then chop the front frame off. From there we will build the front end control arms to the new custom front frame. we will be using the coil overs to adjust to the desired ride height afterwards
@@GnarlySpeedShop OK, I got it. Thanks. Got it now .I cant wait for the video. Thank you.
Nevermind. I thought u was cutting the top of the fender opening.
Nothing says hack like heating springs to lower.
All this suspension is being removed. Just did it to get a visual of the car.
When your not looking...i want to swap that beautiful 67 with a ford falcon then you could bugger it up instead.....
How about for a name Shelly? From Phlash
LT engine ?
😉you’ll see!
Paint it midnight blue metallic
...whers the safety glasses , gloves , a hat e ct. .
People in the trunk just to get into the drive ins
You could have went with actual Nascar tires, the Goodyear Eagle
We wanted a radial so it could hook on the street. The build is supposed to be like an old Nascar stock car but for the street.
Eagles have next to zero sidewall strength, and if you rub against a curb or a object hits the sidewall, the tire will instantly blow.
If you're in a accident with non D.O.T. tires, you better hope you can afford a good law firm.
Reminds of The SnBndoNtnl orang ShowcFGrndsSPEEDWAY old stock car Chevelles tri five Chevies racing oval track Tommy Garcia
A 4.3 turbo from a ciclone .
RAD
Thanks Jason!
Danny. I would like to get in contact with you. What is the shop info like a phone number ?