Kirsten Dunst will always be my favourite portrayal of Marie Antoinette, since she really conveyed how she was really a young girl at her core, despite being a queen.
Same. Sofia really captured the boring, stuffy, caged life, of Versailles, and Marie wanting to escape that world, but also how she didn't what to disappoint everyone. It was a sad life. especially that the real Marie wasn't her mother's favorite daughter and saw her as not being as attractive as some of her sisters. From a young age, Marie was primmed to be a queen of France, why she hated court dress, though she liked shopping too look the role of a French queen. I can go on, and on about Marie Antoinette. I feel she is still seen as being a horrible person from history, she truly wasn't this cold, hearted monster, the myth has portrayed her. I will defend her forever.
@@kristenrock7783 Agreed & I liked the use of American accents. As much as I like listening to British accents ,I'm tired of them standing in for any country in Western or Eastern Europe..
@@lolo3084 so many of the actresses who portrayed, Marie Antoinette, were in their late 20's early 30's when they did the role. for me it's the performance that stick with me, not the right age or whatever. Movies have always done this.
Looking back , I feel she was a victim off her time .. because she was married away at young age at the age of 14 , to a boy she never had meet in her life .. to avoid war with France .. then her marriage was a mess so she was spending money because she was bored .. and then , instead of blaming France part of the war , the people blamed her for the trouble with the economy off France .. So no matter what she did as a person , the people off France never liked her because she was from Austria ..She might have been a Queen but she was also a victim at the same time ..
Her husband Louis XVI wasn't that bad... he wasn't abusive or the cheating type and he never took a mistress. He loved the children he had with her and even got over the death of their first son to educate their second despite being imprisoned and watching their kingdom be overrun by revolutionaries. Such a shame we lost both of them, though I don't think they'd be suited for this world. Not trying to sway you to love Louis XVI, just trying to show both sides equally.
On the contrary...I thought Sophia Coppola's "Marie Antoinette" had a brilliant depiction of her, brought to life by Kirsten Dunst. Not only was she young and naive, she was also shown as being pulled apart by constantly trying to be what her mother, courtiers, king, and husband wanted. The scene of her breaking down after seeing the birth of her nephew was so heartfelt and real.
In case anyone doesn’t already know, MARIE-ANTOINETTE NEVER SAID “LET THEM EAT CAKE”! The quote was only attributed to her around 50 years after her death. In actual fact, it first appeared in the philosopher Jean-Jacques Rousseau’s autobiography ‘Confessions’, where he describes “the last resort of a great princess who, when told that the peasants had no bread, replied: ‘Then let them eat brioches [cakes]’”. ‘Confessions’ was published in 1782, seven years before Marie-Antoinette is supposed to have uttered the phrase. Furthermore, it goes _completely_ against her charitable character. Imagine becoming notorious throughout history for a line you didn’t even say!
You left out Madonna’s performance of Vogue at the 1990 VMAs, utilizing costumes from the 1988 film, Dangerous Liaisons, which she is on record saying was meant to portray the Queen as the original icon of high style and fashion.
I can't believe the intro you gave to 2000s film versions. I get that this is mostly opinion, but to me the Marie Antoinette by Sophia Coppola is the gold standard for portraying her. They used modern music to appeal to a modern audience which isn't unheard of. They did the same thing in A Knight's Tale and 2013's Great Gatsby to name a few. It plays on the idea that music is something we always share and it has to be something similar to what we understand to aid in comprehending a life from over 200 years ago. I think Sophia Coppola was a genius and Kirsten Dunst was absolutely perfect in her portrayal. Also, you only got the first half of the movie right: as she gets older and has children she becomes far less obsessed with fashion and diamonds and partying. She just wants to hang out with her friends and be away from the constant public attention & scrutiny. She plays her in a dignified way--she's always seen as sweet, never spoiled or selfish if slightly naive. With all the hard work they put into that adaptation I was expecting much more examination of that particular version. It's one of the most well-known adaptations & the main reason I clicked on this, although I've always found her fascinating.
14:15 Legends of Tomorrow was so funny and especially with her looking like Nora Darhk, aka Brandon Routh’s wife. I miss that show, hope it comes back one day.
Great video, very complete! I love Kirsten Dunst in Sofia Coppola's Marie Antoinette! Farewell My Queen is another great movie portraying the queen of France.
You missed Jane Seymour’s portrayal of her in “ Le Revolution franchaise” very good miniseries that is pretty accurate in showing the revolution from both sides
Thank you for the update, MsMojo..!! I heard she never said "Qu'ils mangent de la brioche (let them eat cake)." May the last Queen of France Marie Antoinette rest in peace..
Marie Antoinette is more beautiful even in these series - The Rose of Versailles and La Seine no Hoshi, and at least it is portrayed more beautifully than in those American films.
main factors: 1. *ŕąčışм* - everything she did, even though somehow practical in modern context, was universally hated because she was Austrian (due to French wordplay a pejorative byword for her was "ostrich") 2. *fake news/misinformation* - mostly fueled by the "Libelles" (successor of the "Poissonades" of the previous reign) + Voltaire's "cake" misquote, but the above factor also played into this one 3. *spendthrift* - only remember Rose Bertin (her dresses and the infamous _pouf aux sentiments_ hairstyle/wig) and the Diamond Necklace Affair to get a glimpse of her lavish spending
Quick correction: Marie Antoinette was not the last Queen in France. The last Queen in France was Maria Amalia, who was queen consort to Louis-Philippe I from 1830-48. However following the third Bonaparte restoration, the last French Empress Consort was Empress Eugenie de Montijo, wife of Napoleon III, who was the nephew of Napoleon I.
I love the Sophia Coppola version called Marie Antoinette. Excellent cast, artistic presentation. Loved the soundtrack. She received some media criticism. Disagree entirely
The earliest known film portrayal of Marie Antoinette is actually in a 1903 silent film, "Marie Antoinette," told in a series of vignettes about her life--including a few filmed at the hameau de la reine. For "Chevalier," it is not a fictional black composer (this is a pretty massive mistake...) but very, very loosely based on the real Joseph Bologne. it's unfortunate that this wasn't caught, because the video could have touched on the fact that the film warps Marie Antoinette's relationship with Bologne by pretending she was a whimsical fake ally who drops him when it gets tough. In the film, she refuses to stick up for Bologne against a racist pamphlet circulated after her wins a competition to be director of the Paris opera, then drops her support for him and threatens to destroy him when he stands up to him. (The film is a lot more inaccurate than this, but that's the shortest version of the primary issue of how she's portrayed in the movie.) In reality, none of that happened; after the racist pamphlet circulated about Bologne at the Paris Opera resulted in him pulling out his petition for director (there was no competition as the film pretends) Marie Antoinette supported him *more*--they played together in her apartments, and she supported him in the 1780s so much that his orchestra usually wore formal uniforms as it was known the queen was almost certain to show up.
I believe the anime rose of Versailles shows a very realistic portrayal of Marie Antoinette. Naive, not familiar with the real life outside of court…. I need of a lot of advice but stubborn enough to do whatever she wants
Marie Antoinette never said "let them eat cake." This is a quote only attributed to her decades after her death. We don't know for sure what her last words were. A revolutionary author claimed her last words were "I'm sorry, monsieur, I didn't do it on purpose" after stepping on the executioner's foot. But it's unclear if this author witnessed her execution, and in any case, he attributes the phrase to her deliberately stepping on the man's foot to create a memorable "last spectacle."
I'm quite neutral to the Sofia Coppola Marie Antoinette film but unfortunately I disagree with the part where she decided not to present what happened after the titular historical figure, Louis XVI, and their children attempt an escape from Versailles once the Revolution triggered (even excluding the part where they were recognized, arrested, imprisoned, trialed, and when the King and later the Queen herself got executed). While I guess those parts were skipped because it would twist and (as some would say) "spoil" the film's style where it was given a modern flair with the use of modern music as some soundtracks and the Queen's teen-like portrayal. It would've seemed brutal to see a teen get tried and executed like that. Yet it still excludes historical accuracies.
Why is it stupid? It's stupider when English-language films cast British people to play any and all continental Europeans, and just have them speak with their British accent. Why does the British accent stand in for all Europeans? If it's an English language film about Europeans, we're already accepting the conceit that the actors are speaking a different language than the actual historical figures they are portraying actually spoke. So why not cast Americans and let them speak with their natural accent? It's no more inaccurate than casting Brits, which is done all the time.
Kirsten Dunst will always be my favourite portrayal of Marie Antoinette, since she really conveyed how she was really a young girl at her core, despite being a queen.
Same. Sofia really captured the boring, stuffy, caged life, of Versailles, and Marie wanting to escape that world, but also how she didn't what to disappoint everyone. It was a sad life. especially that the real Marie wasn't her mother's favorite daughter and saw her as not being as attractive as some of her sisters. From a young age, Marie was primmed to be a queen of France, why she hated court dress, though she liked shopping too look the role of a French queen. I can go on, and on about Marie Antoinette. I feel she is still seen as being a horrible person from history, she truly wasn't this cold, hearted monster, the myth has portrayed her. I will defend her forever.
@@kristenrock7783 Agreed & I liked the use of American accents. As much as I like listening to British accents ,I'm tired of them standing in for any country in Western or Eastern Europe..
Same! ❤
But Marie Antoinette was 14 and Kirsten 30 or more
@@lolo3084 so many of the actresses who portrayed, Marie Antoinette, were in their late 20's early 30's when they did the role. for me it's the performance that stick with me, not the right age or whatever. Movies have always done this.
Looking back , I feel she was a victim off her time .. because she was married away at young age at the age of 14 , to a boy she never had meet in her life .. to avoid war with France .. then her marriage was a mess so she was spending money because she was bored .. and then , instead of blaming France part of the war , the people blamed her for the trouble with the economy off France ..
So no matter what she did as a person , the people off France never liked her because she was from Austria ..She might have been a Queen but she was also a victim at the same time ..
Her husband Louis XVI wasn't that bad... he wasn't abusive or the cheating type and he never took a mistress. He loved the children he had with her and even got over the death of their first son to educate their second despite being imprisoned and watching their kingdom be overrun by revolutionaries. Such a shame we lost both of them, though I don't think they'd be suited for this world. Not trying to sway you to love Louis XVI, just trying to show both sides equally.
On the contrary...I thought Sophia Coppola's "Marie Antoinette" had a brilliant depiction of her, brought to life by Kirsten Dunst. Not only was she young and naive, she was also shown as being pulled apart by constantly trying to be what her mother, courtiers, king, and husband wanted. The scene of her breaking down after seeing the birth of her nephew was so heartfelt and real.
In case anyone doesn’t already know, MARIE-ANTOINETTE NEVER SAID “LET THEM EAT CAKE”! The quote was only attributed to her around 50 years after her death. In actual fact, it first appeared in the philosopher Jean-Jacques Rousseau’s autobiography ‘Confessions’, where he describes “the last resort of a great princess who, when told that the peasants had no bread, replied: ‘Then let them eat brioches [cakes]’”. ‘Confessions’ was published in 1782, seven years before Marie-Antoinette is supposed to have uttered the phrase. Furthermore, it goes _completely_ against her charitable character.
Imagine becoming notorious throughout history for a line you didn’t even say!
So refreshing to hear French spoken so beautifully!
Its interesting to see how the costumes from each movie reflected the era it was filmed in .
You left out Madonna’s performance of Vogue at the 1990 VMAs, utilizing costumes from the 1988 film, Dangerous Liaisons, which she is on record saying was meant to portray the Queen as the original icon of high style and fashion.
The sheer opulence of the Shearer MGM version, never duplicated no matter the story-line (or budget) will always stand out the most to me...
I can't believe the intro you gave to 2000s film versions. I get that this is mostly opinion, but to me the Marie Antoinette by Sophia Coppola is the gold standard for portraying her. They used modern music to appeal to a modern audience which isn't unheard of. They did the same thing in A Knight's Tale and 2013's Great Gatsby to name a few. It plays on the idea that music is something we always share and it has to be something similar to what we understand to aid in comprehending a life from over 200 years ago. I think Sophia Coppola was a genius and Kirsten Dunst was absolutely perfect in her portrayal. Also, you only got the first half of the movie right: as she gets older and has children she becomes far less obsessed with fashion and diamonds and partying. She just wants to hang out with her friends and be away from the constant public attention & scrutiny. She plays her in a dignified way--she's always seen as sweet, never spoiled or selfish if slightly naive. With all the hard work they put into that adaptation I was expecting much more examination of that particular version. It's one of the most well-known adaptations & the main reason I clicked on this, although I've always found her fascinating.
14:15 Legends of Tomorrow was so funny and especially with her looking like Nora Darhk, aka Brandon Routh’s wife.
I miss that show, hope it comes back one day.
Marie will always be one of the greatest fashion queens of France 🇨🇵 👑 rip Marie
Great video, very complete! I love Kirsten Dunst in Sofia Coppola's Marie Antoinette! Farewell My Queen is another great movie portraying the queen of France.
DC's Legends Of Tomorrow (2016-2022) Had a funny as Hell Antagonistic version that'll crack you up
Really?
Really 😲
This has nothing to do with Marie Antoinette.
You missed Jane Seymour’s portrayal of her in “ Le Revolution franchaise” very good miniseries that is pretty accurate in showing the revolution from both sides
Thank you for the update, MsMojo..!! I heard she never said "Qu'ils mangent de la brioche (let them eat cake)." May the last Queen of France Marie Antoinette rest in peace..
France 🇨🇵will always be one of the greatest fashion countries in the world 🌎
I love the 1938 movie Marie Antoinette and watch it as often as I can.
Marie Antoinette is more beautiful even in these series - The Rose of Versailles and La Seine no Hoshi,
and at least it is portrayed more beautifully than in those American films.
main factors:
1. *ŕąčışм* - everything she did, even though somehow practical in modern context, was universally hated because she was Austrian (due to French wordplay a pejorative byword for her was "ostrich")
2. *fake news/misinformation* - mostly fueled by the "Libelles" (successor of the "Poissonades" of the previous reign) + Voltaire's "cake" misquote, but the above factor also played into this one
3. *spendthrift* - only remember Rose Bertin (her dresses and the infamous _pouf aux sentiments_ hairstyle/wig) and the Diamond Necklace Affair to get a glimpse of her lavish spending
Madonna/Vogue is my favorite!
Quick correction: Marie Antoinette was not the last Queen in France. The last Queen in France was Maria Amalia, who was queen consort to Louis-Philippe I from 1830-48. However following the third Bonaparte restoration, the last French Empress Consort was Empress Eugenie de Montijo, wife of Napoleon III, who was the nephew of Napoleon I.
I love the Sophia Coppola version called Marie Antoinette. Excellent cast, artistic presentation. Loved the soundtrack. She received some media criticism. Disagree entirely
Marie was a badass fashion legend idol icon and queen 👑 of France 🇨🇵 rest in peace
The earliest known film portrayal of Marie Antoinette is actually in a 1903 silent film, "Marie Antoinette," told in a series of vignettes about her life--including a few filmed at the hameau de la reine.
For "Chevalier," it is not a fictional black composer (this is a pretty massive mistake...) but very, very loosely based on the real Joseph Bologne. it's unfortunate that this wasn't caught, because the video could have touched on the fact that the film warps Marie Antoinette's relationship with Bologne by pretending she was a whimsical fake ally who drops him when it gets tough. In the film, she refuses to stick up for Bologne against a racist pamphlet circulated after her wins a competition to be director of the Paris opera, then drops her support for him and threatens to destroy him when he stands up to him. (The film is a lot more inaccurate than this, but that's the shortest version of the primary issue of how she's portrayed in the movie.)
In reality, none of that happened; after the racist pamphlet circulated about Bologne at the Paris Opera resulted in him pulling out his petition for director (there was no competition as the film pretends) Marie Antoinette supported him *more*--they played together in her apartments, and she supported him in the 1780s so much that his orchestra usually wore formal uniforms as it was known the queen was almost certain to show up.
Marie Antoinette was never considered a beauty nor did she EVER ACTUALLY say let them eat cake.
Her Soul verssion. Happy sunday, Emily, take care and God bless you. Greetings from Colombia to you as well.
The 1938 film with Norma Shearer and the anime series The Rose of Versailles have both captured Marie Antoinette best.
i heard that Marie Antonette, is a fan of anything sweet! which includes cake!
She never said “Let them eat cake”!
We need one of her that is in French
Farewell, My Queen
I love myself :)
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I believe the anime rose of Versailles shows a very realistic portrayal of Marie Antoinette. Naive, not familiar with the real life outside of court…. I need of a lot of advice but stubborn enough to do whatever she wants
We know how her story ends her trip to The Guillotine and her famous last words or a catch-phase Let Them Eat Cake.
Marie Antoinette never said "let them eat cake." This is a quote only attributed to her decades after her death. We don't know for sure what her last words were. A revolutionary author claimed her last words were "I'm sorry, monsieur, I didn't do it on purpose" after stepping on the executioner's foot. But it's unclear if this author witnessed her execution, and in any case, he attributes the phrase to her deliberately stepping on the man's foot to create a memorable "last spectacle."
I didn't realize that Jan Crouch stole her look from Marie Antoinett. Jan Crouch is that televangelost's wife with the big hair.
Soul from Disney as just a head!
It’s saying a lot that she’s actually more famous than her husband, King Louis XVI
Does fashion count on the big screen?
You forget about steelrising a game
I'm quite neutral to the Sofia Coppola Marie Antoinette film but unfortunately I disagree with the part where she decided not to present what happened after the titular historical figure, Louis XVI, and their children attempt an escape from Versailles once the Revolution triggered (even excluding the part where they were recognized, arrested, imprisoned, trialed, and when the King and later the Queen herself got executed).
While I guess those parts were skipped because it would twist and (as some would say) "spoil" the film's style where it was given a modern flair with the use of modern music as some soundtracks and the Queen's teen-like portrayal. It would've seemed brutal to see a teen get tried and executed like that. Yet it still excludes historical accuracies.
13:02 THANK YOU. She was an Austrian woman living in France yet has a strong American accent which is just stupid. I do like the film otherwise.
Why is it stupid? It's stupider when English-language films cast British people to play any and all continental Europeans, and just have them speak with their British accent. Why does the British accent stand in for all Europeans? If it's an English language film about Europeans, we're already accepting the conceit that the actors are speaking a different language than the actual historical figures they are portraying actually spoke. So why not cast Americans and let them speak with their natural accent? It's no more inaccurate than casting Brits, which is done all the time.
♥️ her
Ok
I'm going to learn and speak only perfect French 😛😛
Didn't Bette Davis portray Marie Antoinette.
Why is Fersen pronounced as Freshen? It's wrong.
I like the movies but the real marie antoniette betrayed france
Because of her selfishness and gluttony.
Why did they cast Norma Shearer as Marie? She was way too old!
Absolutely not. She was perfect.
@@fan2jnrc Um, okay....
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