I love Andre but he’s weird sometimes. Like making Nathan wait to open the rear doors so he can be inside with his arms up when the door swings down. Just unnecessary and weird. Nathan seems much more laid back.
Nice video. Remember to always give the garage door height when reviewing a toy hauler. I have had to air down tires, strap down suspension, and add guerrillas for weight to get my roof to clear on entry.
I have a 28 ' ATC bumper pull. My toy doesn't get much haver or bigger. I have to let air out of the tires to get my machine in. My wife and I are currently living in it. I prefer this camper over everything else I have owned or currently own. That includes my class A diesel pusher. I believe these camper are the unicorn in outdoor living. Pluss it makes a huge utility trailer when you need one. You get a lot out of these things. Great video. I never see these things out there. I also expect to have this camper for a lifetime.
Hah! I have the same RV (Silver with no graphics, white interior, awnings on both sides + Slide out and exact same SxS down to the Trail Edition. Been living in it full time since late March.
Love this video!! I’m getting an RV soon and this was entertaining to watch especially since me and my family lived in a fifth wheel full-time for a year and a half! Toy haulers are a lot of fun! Love the porch!! Dance party!🤣
@@charliefowler4874 Pin weight is with generator installed is approximately 2,750 lbs. loaded - with RZR in the back - you drop about 300 lbs of pin weight.
@@johnm7340 so 2,750, plus 45-ish gallons of fuel, two big boys in the cab, that’s probably 3,400ish pound of payload. Not sure what the GVWR is on GM 3/4 tons, but if it’s 10,000lbs, that’s an overweight truck at maybe 11,400? 2,750 sounds like a much more realistic pin weight than what the manufacture gives in the brochure. Another layer of guessing how much truck to buy for what you want to tow - truck manufactures who publish overhyped payload capacities (“our gas engine two door base model truck can haul 5,000lbs!) and trailer manufactures that give unrealistic underhyped loaded pin weights.
A 3500 in that configuration has only 3700lbs payload so I'm guessing that 2500 is closer to 2700lbs. Yeah the toys in the back will take some load off the front butt you can't forget about the fifth wheel hitch and all your other gear and possibly 100 gallons of water. Just do yourself a favor and get a 1 ton, they're not that much more and in States like Minnesota to Tabs are actually cheaper.
With the profile of that trailer I would not pull that behind anything but a daully. It may not weigh that much but that is a massive sail for cross winds.
That mounting tech system looks to be Brownline. It is used in every helicopter I have flown in. We use it to mount pouches and equipment mounts. Great review. Cool trailer!
@@thomasbenefield3527 An anchor by any other name is still an anchor. Or in this case, an anchor track. I have a patented new slide it in channel grabber J hook weave metal cargo fasten track smack me down. Called a 1020Holdit. Yah, what does it do? It is a track that you anchor stuff too. Oh, so it is an anchor track? Yep. 🤣
Nathan: Let's show the viewers everything it does because that is what they want to see. Andre: No, let's not unfold everything in the garage and show what it looks like. I just want to drive the side by side in and be done with this. Nathan: While you go do that I will show the viewers things inside. Andre: No, I cannot let you do that w/out me. This is my channel Nathan and therefore I have to be in every shot. So, let's show the truck Nathan. Nathan: Um, ok. We already did a review on that GMC truck and fyi, there are other trucks that can tow this thing Andre. Andre: Yah, well idc because we have this GMC and that is all that matters. 🤣 I think the garage should have an interior camera showing the vehicle driving in on the tv that is mounted in there so one could load w/out a spotter. For the price of this thing, it should have a Chauffeur included. Trailer might be 37 feet, but that obviously is not including the truck length. Better off with a motorhome toy hauler garage in it. 😉
Pretty much sums it up. There is no chemistry here. There is very primitive understanding of the ATC model being displayed. This is an obvious marketing ploy, and a pretty poor one at that. I really love this trailer, and it's likely going to be my next toy hauler purchase. But this video is pretty embarrassing.
It's cheaper than a modern house! And it's portable which mean you can take your house AND toys with you at any point in time! You are NOT beholden to any landlord or having to mow the grass or fix the plumbing! Just pick up and DRIVE to the nearest lake, river or oceanside beach to change your view! When I retire I will be doing this fulltime! I will buy a full-time-living-designed, four-season winter-insulated luxury 5th wheel and Ford F450 Superduty Dually and take my house with me on my travels all around Canada and the USA! I should be able to do that for about 15 years at least (i.e. 65 to 80 years old) before driving everywhere starts becoming too taxing on my aging body. Retirement funds will pay for fuel and food fairly easily with a little bit left-over for various sights, RV campground fees and external vacation spots! If the RV and Truck are fully paid for, MANY middle-income retirees should be able to live on $24,000 USD per year (i.e. $2000 USD per month for your fuel, food and basic living expenses!) in the 5th wheel trailer driving from place to place! On a TIGHTER-level U.S. Social Security budget or Canada Pension Plan along with Personal Savings budget, you could also do this for about $1500 per month ($18,000 per year) if you get a smaller truck and a smaller trailer! If I need extra income in retirement, I can work from ANYWHERE online via a portable Starlink Internet satellite connection and if I ever want to take a long vacation elsewhere, I can PARK the truck and 5th wheel at any Storage facility for a few weeks or months and then fly to whatever destination that tickles my fancy! V
@@christianrenteria2792 MSRP on that trailer when ordered in mid 2022 - was $175,000 + it is deeply discounted with $15k mfg. rebate as well to get to that pricing - $115k is basement bargin price - if you ordered today it would be over $200,000 - ATC are expensive - what is available today in stock are still expensive, but they are a good deal for an ATC!
I love how they not as cheesy looking like regular rvs but that price for what your getting is to me not worth it. Id rather get a really nice traditional toy hauler if it came down to that. Cause theirs have way better floor plans and your not missing out on many features in exchange.
Super light Toy Hauler? I have seen 3K ibs unloaded 16'x8.5' toy haulers so even after loaded it can be about 5K ibs which even a new gen midsized truck can tow since most are at most rated for 7,700ibs towing.
All of these are built like crap. You would never ever accept an automobile built to this quality or lack thereof. Why do we accept that with trailers?
@@Captndarty ah gotcha, yeah for something of this price it has to have a sufficient level of quality or fit and finish. I think ATC is not without fault but is better than most manufacturers in that regard. And being an aluminum construction throughout it’ll likely stand up to the test of time much better.
I have a 08 quick silver made by ATC. You would be surprised. There is nothing that can get water damage. Pluss being mostly aluminum makes it lighter. I have gotten my money out of mine and expect it with last a lifetime.
You guys should do your homework before you talk about an a trailer if you want to present it fairly - You said trailer retails for about $115,000 - that trailer was closer to $175,000 +/- MSRP trailer - the $115,000 price reflects $15k mfg. rebate and deep disount by dealer trying to move inventory in a crappy RV market. ATC are nice, but expensive - Order one today and it will be over $200,000 - less mfg. offsets - but north of $150k for sure.
Check out a used one. I picked up a 08 for 28 thousand. They do last a long time. I did have to replace the A/C. But you can expect that from any unit.
Worst toy hauler review ever! Quit calling it in an do some prep work. You just showed up and tried to figure it out as you went. Come on man…be professional
I don’t see a hundred and fifty thousand dollars of value there. If this thing is going to be used to makes money for a business then maybe it’s ok but with cost of truck and trailer it’s ridiculous as a toy.
Probably an unpopular opinion, but ATC as a brand, is overpriced for what you get. Bare aluminum, composite walls. It looks rugged, and is a quality product, but it’s very garage looking. They did inspire me though. I bought a 24 foot race car trailer and built my own ATC copy for about $15k, including the price of the trailer and ALL parts. I’m an extreme case, but I’m an engineer, with building experience. I know ATC is probably a sponsor, but they’re way overpriced. Always have been.
I own one and have had it for years. I'm currently living in it with my wife. I picked mine up used . And cost me less than 30 thousand . You do get a lot out of these things for what they are. And we prefer the utility over the pretty fluff that doesn't hold together over time. Besides having that skill set and having the means and time of building one like yourself. Where does one turn. I don't think a steel frame toy hauler with wooden furnishings is the answer. When your toy is a Can Am hd10 limited weighing in over 25 hundred pounds. It's probably not for everyone. But it fixes our bill. What are my options?
Are you referring to the fill port for filling the trailer’s gas tank? Being on the driver’s side is where I would want it, same as my truck. Or did you mean the nozzle to fill toys? I sort of agree, but most RV campsites are on the passenger side of the RV. Anything on the driver’s side is potentially in your neighbor’s spot. That may be less relevant to the kinds of places you might take this beast, like sand dunes, etc.
You guys still have that GMC ultimate a real machine and you guys are not doing much with it instead you guys reviewing some Toyota Tacoma b. what a shame ,!!!
Thanks but we really hate these passive-aggressive mean comments. Here’s one for you….Have you ever heard of the saying, “if you can’t say something nice….say nothing at all”?
@@paulmadkow9143 I don’t see an issue with their response here. They’re asking for people to be polite. If you want to provide constructive criticism that is one thing, but the OP basically was just negative for the sake of being negative.
@@antonioprado8068 unless you sit there iding it shouldn’t be bad at all. The main door is open and if extra ventilation is needed another door or vent can allow more flow and can be kept open afterward just to make sure fresh air can continue to circulate.
I don’t think Nathan and Andre get along
Andre “I’m almost 6’3”
Nathan “yeah, we know, you’re tall, I’m not.”
It's a cultural thing.. Andre gets it✊️
I would struggle to get along with Nathan also…
I think a lot of people would struggle with that. His ego shows in a lot of the older videos
I love Andre but he’s weird sometimes. Like making Nathan wait to open the rear doors so he can be inside with his arms up when the door swings down. Just unnecessary and weird. Nathan seems much more laid back.
Love the Camper Corner videos, of which, Nathan is such a huge part of its success! Andre, quite simply, makes everything better!
Nice video. Remember to always give the garage door height when reviewing a toy hauler. I have had to air down tires, strap down suspension, and add guerrillas for weight to get my roof to clear on entry.
Sounds like you have the wrong tool for the job. Might be simpler to just raise the roof at that point. lol
Andre: "This has a generator"
30 seconds later: shows empty compartment where the generator would be if it actually had a generator.
I have a 28 ' ATC bumper pull. My toy doesn't get much haver or bigger. I have to let air out of the tires to get my machine in. My wife and I are currently living in it. I prefer this camper over everything else I have owned or currently own. That includes my class A diesel pusher. I believe these camper are the unicorn in outdoor living. Pluss it makes a huge utility trailer when you need one. You get a lot out of these things. Great video. I never see these things out there. I also expect to have this camper for a lifetime.
15:48 That's the generator compartment.
Hah! I have the same RV (Silver with no graphics, white interior, awnings on both sides + Slide out and exact same SxS down to the Trail Edition. Been living in it full time since late March.
Curious how it tows with that little truck. '21 F450 pulls mine very comfortably.
$155k, Generator included + 15K cash rebate.
$210,000 all in for that setup. At what point do you just buy a 2nd house?
😂 clearly you don't live in California.
Awesome. Just picked up the 4319 from ATC.
Love this video!! I’m getting an RV soon and this was entertaining to watch especially since me and my family lived in a fifth wheel full-time for a year and a half! Toy haulers are a lot of fun! Love the porch!! Dance party!🤣
With a 16,000 GVWR, that’s an estimated 3,200 pin weight. Probably puts that tricked out HD diesel pickup over payload capacity.
The brochure says its GVWR is 13,200 and the pin weight is stated as 1,275 (I’ll guarantee that’s not a real world number).
Its a toy hauler, meant to haul toys. The toys take off pin weight. Andre went over that in the video.
@@charliefowler4874 Pin weight is with generator installed is approximately 2,750 lbs. loaded - with RZR in the back - you drop about 300 lbs of pin weight.
@@johnm7340 so 2,750, plus 45-ish gallons of fuel, two big boys in the cab, that’s probably 3,400ish pound of payload. Not sure what the GVWR is on GM 3/4 tons, but if it’s 10,000lbs, that’s an overweight truck at maybe 11,400?
2,750 sounds like a much more realistic pin weight than what the manufacture gives in the brochure. Another layer of guessing how much truck to buy for what you want to tow - truck manufactures who publish overhyped payload capacities (“our gas engine two door base model truck can haul 5,000lbs!) and trailer manufactures that give unrealistic underhyped loaded pin weights.
A 3500 in that configuration has only 3700lbs payload so I'm guessing that 2500 is closer to 2700lbs. Yeah the toys in the back will take some load off the front butt you can't forget about the fifth wheel hitch and all your other gear and possibly 100 gallons of water. Just do yourself a favor and get a 1 ton, they're not that much more and in States like Minnesota to Tabs are actually cheaper.
With the profile of that trailer I would not pull that behind anything but a daully. It may not weigh that much but that is a massive sail for cross winds.
That mounting tech system looks to be Brownline. It is used in every helicopter I have flown in. We use it to mount pouches and equipment mounts.
Great review. Cool trailer!
I've heard it referred to as "L-track" from folks who seem way more familiar with this trailer and ones like it.
@@jgardne1 definitely could be. Either something different or a different name for that application. Just looked similar.
@@thomasbenefield3527 An anchor by any other name is still an anchor. Or in this case, an anchor track. I have a patented new slide it in channel grabber J hook weave metal cargo fasten track smack me down. Called a 1020Holdit. Yah, what does it do? It is a track that you anchor stuff too. Oh, so it is an anchor track? Yep. 🤣
Nathan: Let's show the viewers everything it does because that is what they want to see. Andre: No, let's not unfold everything in the garage and show what it looks like. I just want to drive the side by side in and be done with this. Nathan: While you go do that I will show the viewers things inside. Andre: No, I cannot let you do that w/out me. This is my channel Nathan and therefore I have to be in every shot. So, let's show the truck Nathan. Nathan: Um, ok. We already did a review on that GMC truck and fyi, there are other trucks that can tow this thing Andre. Andre: Yah, well idc because we have this GMC and that is all that matters. 🤣 I think the garage should have an interior camera showing the vehicle driving in on the tv that is mounted in there so one could load w/out a spotter. For the price of this thing, it should have a Chauffeur included. Trailer might be 37 feet, but that obviously is not including the truck length. Better off with a motorhome toy hauler garage in it. 😉
Pretty much sums it up. There is no chemistry here. There is very primitive understanding of the ATC model being displayed. This is an obvious marketing ploy, and a pretty poor one at that.
I really love this trailer, and it's likely going to be my next toy hauler purchase. But this video is pretty embarrassing.
I mean $115k is pricey but its less than i thought it was going to be. I was expecting $150k-$200k the way things are priced lately.
that 115k is msrp , most rv get discounted way below msrp
It's cheaper than a modern house! And it's portable which mean you can take your house AND toys with you at any point in time! You are NOT beholden to any landlord or having to mow the grass or fix the plumbing! Just pick up and DRIVE to the nearest lake, river or oceanside beach to change your view!
When I retire I will be doing this fulltime! I will buy a full-time-living-designed, four-season winter-insulated luxury 5th wheel and Ford F450 Superduty Dually and take my house with me on my travels all around Canada and the USA! I should be able to do that for about 15 years at least (i.e. 65 to 80 years old) before driving everywhere starts becoming too taxing on my aging body. Retirement funds will pay for fuel and food fairly easily with a little bit left-over for various sights, RV campground fees and external vacation spots! If the RV and Truck are fully paid for, MANY middle-income retirees should be able to live on $24,000 USD per year (i.e. $2000 USD per month for your fuel, food and basic living expenses!) in the 5th wheel trailer driving from place to place! On a TIGHTER-level U.S. Social Security budget or Canada Pension Plan along with Personal Savings budget, you could also do this for about $1500 per month ($18,000 per year) if you get a smaller truck and a smaller trailer!
If I need extra income in retirement, I can work from ANYWHERE online via a portable Starlink Internet satellite connection and if I ever want to take a long vacation elsewhere, I can PARK the truck and 5th wheel at any Storage facility for a few weeks or months and then fly to whatever destination that tickles my fancy!
V
@@christianrenteria2792 MSRP on that trailer when ordered in mid 2022 - was $175,000 + it is deeply discounted with $15k mfg. rebate as well to get to that pricing - $115k is basement bargin price - if you ordered today it would be over $200,000 - ATC are expensive - what is available today in stock are still expensive, but they are a good deal for an ATC!
Can't get away from my toyhauler. We love having a patio.
Wow! Come to Australia ! Please!
I watched the entire video and maybe I missed it, but what is the exact model trailer that’s shown here? Does anybody know?
👏👏👏.... Have a good one everybody ✌️
How is the GVWR 16,800 lbs if the axles are only 14,000 lbs (7k each)?
About 3000 lbs is transferred to the truck
"We're going to load a machine in there"
Hook it up to a Maverick and do the Ike!
I love how they not as cheesy looking like regular rvs but that price for what your getting is to me not worth it. Id rather get a really nice traditional toy hauler if it came down to that. Cause theirs have way better floor plans and your not missing out on many features in exchange.
would only tow that thing with a dually.
Enjoy the camper videos.
It great but who can afford?
Anyone with credit and doesn't mind an $800 or less monthly payment. The more you put down, the lower your monthly payment.
If you want an 800 dollar payment with this you’ll need at least 25,000 down. That’s a lot more than just credit.
@@joshford8760 20% is the norm.
@@Itsa_Mea so if having nearly $30k cash on hand is the norm, what percent of the population would that apply to?
@@ALMX5DP yeah news flash, not everyone can afford everything. Welcome to the US.
Nathan is acting like , " why do you even have me here " lol, just do it your fifen self , hahaha
Super light Toy Hauler? I have seen 3K ibs unloaded 16'x8.5' toy haulers so even after loaded it can be about 5K ibs which even a new gen midsized truck can tow since most are at most rated for 7,700ibs towing.
It is what it is, but if that Honda had been off-roading in the mud, I would not want it inside. I guess that’s a washing issue.
The vibe between them was a bit odd...
The both putting me to sleep.
Perfect, but need proper towing vehicle
One tiny slide out ?
Seems pointless.
ATC trailers also have the added benefit of making your wallet much lighter.
Do more of this content looking for toy hauler have 23 f350 coming soon
All of these are built like crap. You would never ever accept an automobile built to this quality or lack thereof. Why do we accept that with trailers?
What part are you referring to? Talking about ATC specifically or toy haulers in general?
@@ALMX5DP talking about all travel trailer and all RVs. They are made cheap and light and have a short service life.
@@Captndarty ah gotcha, yeah for something of this price it has to have a sufficient level of quality or fit and finish. I think ATC is not without fault but is better than most manufacturers in that regard. And being an aluminum construction throughout it’ll likely stand up to the test of time much better.
People buy Fords all the time! 😂
I have a 08 quick silver made by ATC. You would be surprised. There is nothing that can get water damage. Pluss being mostly aluminum makes it lighter. I have gotten my money out of mine and expect it with last a lifetime.
You guys should do your homework before you talk about an a trailer if you want to present it fairly - You said trailer retails for about $115,000 - that trailer was closer to $175,000 +/- MSRP trailer - the $115,000 price reflects $15k mfg. rebate and deep disount by dealer trying to move inventory in a crappy RV market. ATC are nice, but expensive - Order one today and it will be over $200,000 - less mfg. offsets - but north of $150k for sure.
Something els nobody can buy. But at least it’s timed right before the world collapses.
Check out a used one. I picked up a 08 for 28 thousand. They do last a long time. I did have to replace the A/C. But you can expect that from any unit.
Worst toy hauler review ever! Quit calling it in an do some prep work. You just showed up and tried to figure it out as you went. Come on man…be professional
Triple air conditioners! That’s nice 👍
They make nice toy haulers but have built some poorly constructed units & not repaired the defects screwing the owners.
I don’t see a hundred and fifty thousand dollars of value there. If this thing is going to be used to makes money for a business then maybe it’s ok but with cost of truck and trailer it’s ridiculous as a toy.
Probably an unpopular opinion, but ATC as a brand, is overpriced for what you get. Bare aluminum, composite walls. It looks rugged, and is a quality product, but it’s very garage looking. They did inspire me though. I bought a 24 foot race car trailer and built my own ATC copy for about $15k, including the price of the trailer and ALL parts. I’m an extreme case, but I’m an engineer, with building experience. I know ATC is probably a sponsor, but they’re way overpriced. Always have been.
I own one and have had it for years. I'm currently living in it with my wife. I picked mine up used . And cost me less than 30 thousand . You do get a lot out of these things for what they are. And we prefer the utility over the pretty fluff that doesn't hold together over time. Besides having that skill set and having the means and time of building one like yourself. Where does one turn. I don't think a steel frame toy hauler with wooden furnishings is the answer. When your toy is a Can Am hd10 limited weighing in over 25 hundred pounds. It's probably not for everyone. But it fixes our bill. What are my options?
the fuel filler is on the wrong side of the trailer.
Are you referring to the fill port for filling the trailer’s gas tank? Being on the driver’s side is where I would want it, same as my truck. Or did you mean the nozzle to fill toys? I sort of agree, but most RV campsites are on the passenger side of the RV. Anything on the driver’s side is potentially in your neighbor’s spot. That may be less relevant to the kinds of places you might take this beast, like sand dunes, etc.
Ridiculous....
You assumed that a Jeep has 50/50 weight distribution.
The european guy rudeness is a little much here.
nah thats not manageable
Poor presentation of the toy hauler. You should stay with the trucks that you do.
You guys still have that GMC ultimate a real machine and you guys are not doing much with it instead you guys reviewing some Toyota Tacoma b. what a shame ,!!!
Guys, stick to cars and trucks what you are good at.
Thanks but we really hate these passive-aggressive mean comments. Here’s one for you….Have you ever heard of the saying, “if you can’t say something nice….say nothing at all”?
@@paulmadkow9143 I don’t see an issue with their response here. They’re asking for people to be polite. If you want to provide constructive criticism that is one thing, but the OP basically was just negative for the sake of being negative.
I love these videos! They are taking a different approach to RVs and showcasing them which I think helps everyone!
@The Fast Lane Truck will driving s atv inside create a uncomfortable event of fumes
@@antonioprado8068 unless you sit there iding it shouldn’t be bad at all. The main door is open and if extra ventilation is needed another door or vent can allow more flow and can be kept open afterward just to make sure fresh air can continue to circulate.