Yeah he was going for Allan Holdsworth. He gets both major 7ths and minor 7ths. Same with thirds. Same with his diminished lick in Eruption. But he gets a b7 and M6
I have watched a lot of RUclips guitar instructions and you are among the best. Tab on screen, fret hand on screen, pick hand on screen, clear instructions, playing at speed and slowed down, breaking licks down into sections, etc. Thank you!
Great vid! EVH used to refer to what he did on I'm the One, On Fire and stuff like that as "cheating". I think it's actually very similar to playing "outside" in jazz. It almost doesn't matter what the notes are - just the context you're using it in and the note(s) that you land on to resolve the lick. Here I'm thinking of, for example, using a whole tone or diminished scale to play "out" or just using a nonsense pattern like Brian Setzer does once in a while - just landing on the right note at the end (right note, right time) does it.
Yep, you can pretty much get away with anything as long as you land back on familiar notes. And yes, this is definitely cheating - you get the outside sound without knowing what you are actually doing.
Eddie also referred to his playing by saying "it's like falling down a flight of stairs and landing on your feet." So people watching are thinking you must have meant to do that. "Wow, he's really talented."
I'm going to be able to pull a lot from what you showed us here. And I'm primarily a BASS PLAYER!. The only thing I take issue with in the whole lesson, is the use of the term "nonsense scales". If it inspires, and reaches the heart in such a way, to want to pick up your guitar and learn, and couple that with he's one of the cats responsible for changing the entire face of rock guitar playing....hard to use the word nonsense to describe parts of his playing, or his approach to the instrument. Just my opinion.
What I love is when Eddie pulls off a lick, and smiles in to the camera like, "Wow, I did it!" But he can pull off acrobatic licks all day long. He really seems to be having fun.
Eddy was also very influenced by Tony Motolla.[Motoya?] A Spanish player. If you listen to SO many of Ed's licks, they are very Spanish flamenco based really. Probably what influenced Spanish fly. He said he couldn't play like Motolla, so he cheated to get that effect.
Very interesting. Not having dug in to EVH licks, I just was hearing a lot of standard minor scales with amazing stretches, but this puts it all together. Wow. Thanks for posting the video.
Thankyou so much for this kick-ass lesson - Jumpin' off the cliff! I remember Eddie talking about taking the 12 notes and mixing them up any way you choose... A true innovator and a genius inventor as well.
Nice lesson. Showing tab, right and left hand simultaneously is fantastic. This video makes me want to learn how to play fast runs of sixteenths which I've never been able to do.
"It sounds like gibberish, because it IS gibberish" - great quote. This is NOT a true symmetrical scale. It is a symmetrical finger pattern, relative to the guitar only. A true symmetrical scale is the diminished or whole tone scale, which have symmetrical interval patterns. But this is still badass! Time to practice some gibberish!
I think I copy VH a lot, and have for my whole musical career (decades). But I've never bothered to learn these patterns. I think your presentation and ability is fantastic. Killer! Can't wait to try this, a lifetime later. : )
Eddie never used existing patterns or official scales. Because of the ‘no chords’ in the background but just a bass note he could go crazy and make his own scales and still sound good. Thats why he is still relevant today.
Dude you shred, thanks for this awesome lesson , the scale on its own is not so special but using your sequenced lick it has that real Eddie flavour I was looking to find . Thanks so much, this is one of the best explanations I have seen
The symmetrical scale sums up Van Halen in so many ways. Break the rules and bring the swag! Sometimes it's not what you play... It's how you go about it. And they did it with sheer conviction!
This video reminds me of something that makes perfect sense now in retrospect to when I was 13. My buddy Bill was a huge Eddie fan in high school and I was always the "Randy freak" lol Anyway, he had this really obscure Brian May/Eddie Van Halen, one-off record called "Starfleet Project". Well, after just a few minutes of listening revealed exactly what this video illustrates about Eddie. His playing was very repetitive and even at my very young age, I could hear was out of key and not keeping up with Brian May in the least. I guess my ears were pretty sophisticated for my age lol But then, that explains my love for players like Randy Rhoads in the first place🎸😃
You can all argue as much as you like about the precise technical language for what is being demonstrated in this video, but the point is that you can disregard a lot of rules in music, just do what you want on the guitar and still sound great. This is what EVH did and I'm also living proof of that approach because I've played guitar most of my life and, if I say so myself, I'm a pretty bad ass blues, rock, fusion guitarist and I never really learned any theory beyond very basic stuff. I just play what I want the way I want to and it sounds great. I get more out of just emulating (stealing from actually) my favourite players and transforming or absorbing it all into my own characteristic way of playing. I play the way I've always wanted to in fact I'm better than I thought I ever could be just by taking that approach, with little or no theory. People tell me I'm great on the guitar so... perfect, right. I think that's the point here, just play, have fun, avoid all the boring stuff and just focus on what's fun and what you like, the theory isn't entirely necessary for what we wanna do, which is rock!
It's not gibberish, it fits perfectly over the dominant 7 chords that are implied in the background blues progressions he is soloing over. That's the genius of his playing. Just like the the spread out minor third stacks he plays over a dominant chord you were trying to emulate at the beginning of video.
Awesome video!! Very well done. Excellent breakdown on how to play complicated scales. Provides a great starting point on how to play these kinds of licks.
I think Eddie used his ears to be his guide in playing certain notes!!! "If it sounds good!!! Its pretty cool!" I think he used his intuitive instinct a lot!!!!🙂😊☺😀 Plus. I read some where that Eddie Van Halen as a youth played for long hours in a day! While other teenagers are out partying and going out on dates or going out on weekends, Eddie is at home playing and playing his guitar!!!! 🎸
this channel is really on the right track. Good coverage of kick ass guitarists and a sound theory behind the licks. Also i dig your foundation lessons as well (picking and technique). Subscribed. How about 20 Bill gibbons Licks ( from Early era ZZ top)
Thank you for explaining these symmetrical Eddie Van Halen phrasing licks it is very helpful in my understanding of what he is doing I play by shear feel and Eddie just speaks a better language than myself but you brought me one step closer to be able to play like that! :-)
To start with Eddie Van Halen did not play all strings in his scales, I met him and know this for a fact. He said to me, why play across all strings with your scales. His point of view was to have you play what you understood, and to play naturally fitting you. 3 strings were his thing, and it did not matter where he started the scale at. He used pattern playing.
One of the first Van Halen Licks series that seems authentic. One quibble, Lick 2, 3rd note from the end; you have it marked as 17th fret G string. You play 20th fret G string in the slowed down version. Please keep up the great work; I'll be subscribing!.
never heard that described as symmetrical normally that term is used to describe diminished and whole tone scales as their step pattern is symmetrical ie all notes are same distance apart and any can be the root
Just found your channel, and liked the lesson so much I had to sub. I think Dimebag used to do this..:-) Again, great video. Digging that Fender. Looks like it has a roller nut, etc.
Thanks so much. Yeah, I have a strat I built out of an American neck and Mim body, and I'm thinking about having a roller nut and different bridge put on it to have the same setup. I'm over floyds.. I like them as far as staying in tune, but a pain in the butt. :-) Thanks again. Great video..
It's a Fender Floyd Rose trem. Decent piece of machined metal, works great with locking tuners (as a double locking) and the roller nut, like on the old Strat Plus Deluxe. Absolute nightmare to adjust the intonation, as you must "dive" the trem, and work with allen wrenched UNDER the plate. The new FR bridge without fine tuners would probably work the same way.
i"m a really old blues man (saw hendrix live), mainly staying within pentatonics, adding 2nds and 9ths sometimes plus maj 3rd, that"s basically it, i"m not a scaleman, but always looking for adding something special to my blues like 3rd stone from the sun motif style etc. this one occurs to me like a source of inspiration without becoming a mixolydian/dorian/diminshed scale metaller (though i like listening to it). in brief: excellent input that will do for the rest of my remaining life. tnx for this.
Depends on what type of player you are. But, a good next step is how to use the pentatonic scale in improvising. You can take that a long way. If you want to learn blues, the best thing to do is learn all positions of the minor AND major pentatonic scales, and then learn licks mix them together. BB King and Eric Clapton are a great place to start. In a 12 bar blues, the chords are a I, a IV, and a V. So, if you are in the key of G, the G is the I, C is the IV, and D is the V. Generally, you play major pentatonic over the I, and minor pentatonic over the IV, and V. If you can do that, you are on your way.
+Kurt Adams I wouldn't waste your time memorizing a bunch of scales. Learn the basic scales, and then just start learning licks that use those scales. You don't learn scales by memorizing them, you learn them by learning how to use them - just learn licks! You don't need to know every position of the scale. SRV and Hendrix mostly player in one or two positions of scales, and they did just fine. Licks are the important part. Learning to figure out songs takes time. You get better at it every time you learn a new song. A simple trick is to just try and match the low note of the chord you are hearing. Just try and play the bass notes first. If you can match that sound, you are on your way. Usually the low note you here is the root note of the chord. So, if you hear the 3rd feet on the sixth string, then it's probably a g chord. Try it out on some simple songs.
Technically, a "Symmetrical Scale" is something that follows a symmetric note pattern, like whole tone (all whole steps) or 1/2 step whole step diminished (1/2,W,1/2,W,1/2,W etc.)... I think what you meant to say was a symmetric fingering.
Eddie did a thing he liked to call "falling down the stairs and landing on his feet". Sure, there are licks that sound like Eddie, but by the sound of his quote, Im guessing he liked jumping around the neck rather than limiting himself to a scale.
The scale is not gibberish. It’s a specific scale with added chromatic notes playing outside the scale. Jazz and fusion players do it all the time. Eddie was a huge Alan Holdsworth fan. Alan was the king of inside and outside playing.
If you say EVH again ,i will scream .Actually i would say Eddie is ,like Jimmy Page and Pat Martino ,playing a Multi Tonal chromatic style . I don't buy Eddie's California "I don't know i just do it" shtick .He played Jazz as a child on a cruise ship ,his father was a Jazz musician . The "Symmetrical scale you played can be derived from "A" melodic minor ,with "A" Half whole diminished ,over laped over it . Your symmetrical scale" and many other "BLUES PATTERNS" as AL Di MEOLA would say can be obtained this way
Bumped into your video looking for VST. My take ...Dominant bebop scale repeated over A D & E (I IV V) roots. Similar to playing A7 D7 E7 drop 5 chords. In your example & EVH's art the A5 dyad (3 notes make a chord) or lack of harmony is why it works so easily. Essentially the single dyad A5 could be looked at as/imply A5, D2 drop 1 5, Esus4. Regardless my ear likes it. The b5, #9 qualities that are bumped into as it moves around the A in the bass is meat & potatoes RnR. EVH being exposed to his dad's jazz & being forced to play piano at a young age gives him a unique ear & approach to rock IMO. EVH was also a fan of Holdsworth, who uses a similar scale. "Jazz Dominant" I think he calls it. A Mixolydian or Bebop Dom with added b3 (#9) & the major 7 passing tone.
What I really want to know is what kind of bridge are you using ? It seems to have locking saddles and could be a direct retro-fit for a strat rout ? Thx for the licks btw.
How do u get ur guitar tuning in e standard with no fine tuners,,when I clamp my nuts down on locking nut they always go to sharp sound way out of tune how do u get urs in tune please help mate
so I have a similar Strat with just humbuckers in bridge and neck, and I would love to have a locking trem....How did you get your system in your guitar? Is it not a fender? Can't see the headstock, but I would love your feedback and thanks for the great licks!
I don't think I've seen many other guitar players press the ball of the index finger to the back of the neck like that. I thought I was the only one with that weird habit.
I have been playing for almost 20 years and I can't believe how fucking fast you can play. Your pinky dexterity is ridiculous. You play faster than Ed.
Thanks so much for the awesome explanations of Symmetrical patterns. I loved the video and it's GREAT exercise! I'm not trying to be critical at all, but I noticed something in your on-screen tab vs. what is being played. Starting at 11:06, you run through the complete lick. In the second measure, it seems your skipping the third group of quintuplets and going straight for the 7 note run. I've slowed the video down, as well as played along, and each time, the tab seems as if it has an extra set in that second measure which your not playing on screen. Not a big deal, playability wise, but now I'm curious, to fit it into a 4:4 timing, should we be learning from the video or the tab? Hope my question is clear enough. Thanks for the hard work and support! You're doing great and these are just what I needed right now! \m/ Rock On \m/
Thanks for all the feedback! Glad you liked the lesson. Yes, you are right! I bet you are one of very few to actually notice. Unfortunately I didn't even catch it until after I posted it, so it's left in. Anyway - play what is in the tab! That is what I meant to play, and it will fit better with the timing. And you're right - these are really good exercises, because of the big stretches. It definitely helped my technique when I started playing these licks. Thanks again!
+GuitarLickDojo Sweet! Whew! I'm not nuts!!! LOL!!! I'm looking forward to adding this kind of stuff to my playing in the coming months. Time to stretch out these old fingers!!
Dê uma olhada nessas lições. Eles falam sobre licks repetitivas usando a escala pentatônica. Eu costumava idéias como essas para jogar o pingo no início deste vídeo. ruclips.net/video/oDkTr-qLi9A/видео.html ruclips.net/video/aaNq21sgCfQ/видео.html ruclips.net/video/hS1lRbCF8Rc/видео.html
You play very well but I have to say a symmetrical scale is a scale that splits the octave. A whole tone scale is a good example. I am not trying to be a tool, just saying.
Yeah, I hear you. I know it's not a symmetrical scale by the standard definition. I've just heard a lot of people call this type of scale symmetrical in the past, so I'm going with it. I guess you could say it is a scale with symmetrical fingering.
It is a fender deluxe locking tremolo. They don't make them anymore unfortunately - they came standard on American deluxe stratocasters in late 90s early 2000s. You can probably find on eBay. They were manufactured with or by Floyd Rose. The strings are locked in with screws. They don't go through the body like a standard fender tremolo. It stays in tune, very very well.
I feel your pain. I've been playing for 20 years and I still have trouble playing Slash licks, and he's not even known to be much of a shredder by any means. I've hit a wall and I just can't get any better. Its like I "panic" when I have to play something fast and just fuck everything up!
I use symmetrical scale patterns all the time. They lie in a nice, convenient box pattern, and if you play them fast enough, the listener doesn't really notice the outside notes so much so long as you land on the root note. It's a good way to bridge the gap between two separate root notes over different octaves if you accidentally have a brain fart and zone out unintentionally. Chromatic scale patterns serve the same purpose for me.
theoretically, this stuff is combining things... modal interchange/diminished 6th are the 2 most important theories to understand before you can really get what's happening with van halen's music... the intervals are full of theoretic changes as you run through the strings...
Anything can be explained but Eddie had no idea what he was doing. He repeatedly admits this in several interviews. He compared his playing to "falling down the stairs and landing on your feet." That is what he says, " if you start and end on the right notes and play fast enough in between you come out alright in the end."
I don't buy any of that ,that is just like Yngwie saying "It goes through many keys and modes and is very difficult to explain,so I'll just demonstrate" Al Di Meola book ,Music Words and Pictures,from the 70s explains "Blues Patterns" it's no big deal
Right on, Dick . I just use the Diminished 1/2 whole dirived from the vii chord of the major modes and cycle it up a minor 3ed to Dorian position ,to get the chuch Berry scale. The Diminished scale works well over Natural minor ,and the V mode of Melodic minor . . Figuring out the intended key of a song can be a challenge some times . BTW what did you mean by Diminished 6ths ? Is that a Pat Martino concept?
Shred Sixsixsix Diminished 6th.... well, there's a bunch of ways to look at it... put yourself in Aminor... now play an Aflat diminished scale.... it derives from the idea that there's 2 sides to the diminished scale. the true nature of this scale is "half step, whole step, half step whole step"... not "step and a half" like everyone usually does... now put that against your "NATURAL NOTES"... ABCDEFG(the white keys on a piano).... most music is based on the triad, the arpeggio.... so that's 135, ACE.... what about the "EVEN" numbers? what do they give you? 246, BDF.... so now let's examine those 3 notes more closely... BDF is a diminished scale with the last note missing to complete the cycle... the only note that could complete the cycle is Aflat... so to play diminished Aminor, you actually would play diminished over Aflat instead... there's 2 sides to every diminished scale.... they are BESIDE each other(i'm hoping you're trying this on a guitar as you read, it's really the best way), anyway... the note in question is "F".... ABCDEFG, 1234567.... "F" is the 6th note in your Aminor scale... Fdiminished over A minor, this scale blends in with Emajor, which would be a typical chord to go to at the end of a progression... holy liftin' fuck, what a bunch of Jargen.... hope it makes sense to you
Shred Sixsixsix dorian... those names for the modes... after 4o years i still don't have em' straight... i replaced all those roman type names with the numbers 1 thru 7, and the light came on, been seeing it more as a number system and following loosely on the letter system... i find it easier doing numbers
40 years later and Ed's licks are still the gold standard and a bar that a lot set and try to cross.
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Evh mostly thinks in Patterns not in Keys..so technically he switches keys multiple times during a solo..
Yeah he was going for Allan Holdsworth.
He gets both major 7ths and minor 7ths.
Same with thirds.
Same with his diminished lick in Eruption.
But he gets a b7 and M6
you got that fact down bro. finally someone gets it
Yes!! Sticking rigidly to a scale is boring at some point. The odd note is golden.
I have watched a lot of RUclips guitar instructions and you are among the best. Tab on screen, fret hand on screen, pick hand on screen, clear instructions, playing at speed and slowed down, breaking licks down into sections, etc. Thank you!
Great vid! EVH used to refer to what he did on I'm the One, On Fire and stuff like that as "cheating". I think it's actually very similar to playing "outside" in jazz. It almost doesn't matter what the notes are - just the context you're using it in and the note(s) that you land on to resolve the lick. Here I'm thinking of, for example, using a whole tone or diminished scale to play "out" or just using a nonsense pattern like Brian Setzer does once in a while - just landing on the right note at the end (right note, right time) does it.
Yep, you can pretty much get away with anything as long as you land back on familiar notes. And yes, this is definitely cheating - you get the outside sound without knowing what you are actually doing.
Eddie also referred to his playing by saying "it's like falling down a flight of stairs and landing on your feet." So people watching are thinking you must have meant to do that. "Wow, he's really talented."
I'm going to be able to pull a lot from what you showed us here. And I'm primarily a BASS PLAYER!. The only thing I take issue with in the whole lesson, is the use of the term "nonsense scales". If it inspires, and reaches the heart in such a way, to want to pick up your guitar and learn, and couple that with he's one of the cats responsible for changing the entire face of rock guitar playing....hard to use the word nonsense to describe parts of his playing, or his approach to the instrument. Just my opinion.
What I love is when Eddie pulls off a lick, and smiles in to the camera like, "Wow, I did it!" But he can pull off acrobatic licks all day long. He really seems to be having fun.
Eddy was also very influenced by Tony Motolla.[Motoya?] A Spanish player. If you listen to SO many of Ed's licks, they are very Spanish flamenco based really. Probably what influenced Spanish fly. He said he couldn't play like Motolla, so he cheated to get that effect.
Very interesting. Not having dug in to EVH licks, I just was hearing a lot of standard minor scales with amazing stretches, but this puts it all together. Wow. Thanks for posting the video.
You have wicked fast fingers it sounds great now I need to grab my guitar and practice :)
Thankyou so much for this kick-ass lesson - Jumpin' off the cliff! I remember Eddie talking about taking the 12 notes and mixing them up any way you choose... A true innovator and a genius inventor as well.
Nice lesson. Showing tab, right and left hand simultaneously is fantastic. This video makes me want to learn how to play fast runs of sixteenths which I've never been able to do.
Beautiful video. Thank you so much for your time and energy.
"It sounds like gibberish, because it IS gibberish" - great quote.
This is NOT a true symmetrical scale. It is a symmetrical finger pattern, relative to the guitar only. A true symmetrical scale is the diminished or whole tone scale, which have symmetrical interval patterns. But this is still badass! Time to practice some gibberish!
+The Skinny Thanks! Yeah, you're right about that - it is symmetrical fingering.
The best sounding gibberish ever
Cocaine is one heck of a drug
Jim Pittman
espeshly for doin symentricle fingerling!
@@Swanlord05 you don't think Mozart was bumpin', do ya ? LMAO,,, hell yeah he was, lol.
I think I copy VH a lot, and have for my whole musical career (decades). But I've never bothered to learn these patterns.
I think your presentation and ability is fantastic. Killer! Can't wait to try this, a lifetime later. : )
Eddie never used existing patterns or official scales. Because of the ‘no chords’ in the background but just a bass note he could go crazy and make his own scales and still sound good. Thats why he is still relevant today.
Dude you shred, thanks for this awesome lesson , the scale on its own is not so special but using your sequenced lick it has that real Eddie flavour I was looking to find . Thanks so much, this is one of the best explanations I have seen
i love van halen licks!
EVH's symmetrical scales are like trying to beat Dark Soul's Bosses; frustrating but ultimately satisfying!
The symmetrical scale sums up Van Halen in so many ways. Break the rules and bring the swag! Sometimes it's not what you play... It's how you go about it. And they did it with sheer conviction!
thank your man, you put a light in the tank.
SHRED
Love your vids, years later. Loads of help for an old acoustic guitarist looking to sharpen his chops again. Thank you.
This video reminds me of something that makes perfect sense now in retrospect to when I was 13. My buddy Bill was a huge Eddie fan in high school and I was always the "Randy freak" lol Anyway, he had this really obscure Brian May/Eddie Van Halen, one-off record called "Starfleet Project". Well, after just a few minutes of listening revealed exactly what this video illustrates about Eddie. His playing was very repetitive and even at my very young age, I could hear was out of key and not keeping up with Brian May in the least. I guess my ears were pretty sophisticated for my age lol But then, that explains my love for players like Randy Rhoads in the first place🎸😃
Would like to hear your take on the solo for " So This Is Love"
You can all argue as much as you like about the precise technical language for what is being demonstrated in this video, but the point is that you can disregard a lot of rules in music, just do what you want on the guitar and still sound great. This is what EVH did and I'm also living proof of that approach because I've played guitar most of my life and, if I say so myself, I'm a pretty bad ass blues, rock, fusion guitarist and I never really learned any theory beyond very basic stuff. I just play what I want the way I want to and it sounds great. I get more out of just emulating (stealing from actually) my favourite players and transforming or absorbing it all into my own characteristic way of playing. I play the way I've always wanted to in fact I'm better than I thought I ever could be just by taking that approach, with little or no theory. People tell me I'm great on the guitar so... perfect, right. I think that's the point here, just play, have fun, avoid all the boring stuff and just focus on what's fun and what you like, the theory isn't entirely necessary for what we wanna do, which is rock!
By far the best vid I've seen on this topic. Thanks
the higher position example sounds like a Randy Rhoads lick
Randy def ripped of Eddie and used his techniques.
@Yeah Whatever lol , Eddie had a longer career , and was
my favorite, after Page, but Randy was a schooled musician,
he didn't rip off anyone.
@@bikersoncall agreed, thats just ignorant and disrespectful honestly. Eddie is a contemporary player and Rhoads is a classically trained musician
@@bikersoncall he did. Tho i like randy too. Guitarists back then knew it too
@@realnsenpai He did what? Can you
document that? of course not.
It's not gibberish, it fits perfectly over the dominant 7 chords that are implied in the background blues progressions he is soloing over. That's the genius of his playing. Just like the the spread out minor third stacks he plays over a dominant chord you were trying to emulate at the beginning of video.
Damn, this is awesome and spot on!! Thank you for posting this great video!!
Dimebag does a similar thing
Rather , did. RIP dime
ZFlyingVLover guess who his favourite guitar player (toghether with Ace Frehley) was 😊
@Peter C Still sounds good to me.
@Peter C I bet you're fun to hang out with.
Awesome video!! Very well done. Excellent breakdown on how to play complicated scales. Provides a great starting point on how to play these kinds of licks.
I think Eddie used his ears to be his guide in playing certain notes!!! "If it sounds good!!! Its pretty cool!" I think he used his intuitive instinct a lot!!!!🙂😊☺😀 Plus. I read some where that Eddie Van Halen as a youth played for long hours in a day! While other teenagers are out partying and going out on dates or going out on weekends, Eddie is at home playing and playing his guitar!!!! 🎸
this channel is really on the right track. Good coverage of kick ass guitarists and a sound theory behind the licks.
Also i dig your foundation lessons as well (picking and technique). Subscribed.
How about 20 Bill gibbons Licks ( from Early era ZZ top)
Pantatonic+blues+pinch harmonics.
holy crap, that lick in the begining was insane
Fantastic job!! Very well done on sound & playing for sure Dude !! Thanks!!
You sound more like Mr. Van Halen than Mr. Van Halen. Definitely subbed !
Really appreciate your hard work.
Well done. Easy to understand. THANKS!!! GREAT LESSON 🤘😎👍🎸
Awesome! I like the dust around the close up of the pick ups! Mine are all the same too!😊
dude im suddenly starting to sound like him
K9
Haha
Thank you for explaining these symmetrical Eddie Van Halen phrasing licks it is very helpful in my understanding of what he is doing I play by shear feel and Eddie just speaks a better language than myself but you brought me one step closer to be able to play like that! :-)
Glad to help! Yeah, it's a really simple idea when you break it down. More videos coming!
Thank you very much I find this video very helpful and informative.
Thanks man, basically if it sounds good play it. Thanks for taking the time to show us "not so talented" folks these licks. Awesome tutorial.
To start with Eddie Van Halen did not play all strings in his scales, I met him and know this for a fact. He said to me, why play across all strings with your scales. His point of view was to have you play what you understood, and to play naturally fitting you. 3 strings were his thing, and it did not matter where he started the scale at. He used pattern playing.
One of the first Van Halen Licks series that seems authentic. One quibble, Lick 2, 3rd note from the end; you have it marked as 17th fret G string. You play 20th fret G string in the slowed down version. Please keep up the great work; I'll be subscribing!.
Thank you very much. Shoot me an email at Guitarlickdojo@gmail.com if there are specific things you would like to see.
you absolutely can play the big stretcher on the lower frets. Tap them! It is EVH we are talking bout..
Yeah you can tap some of this stuff, but these licks Eddie didn't tap.
true for sure. and i appreciate the video. just another way to attempt it.
Do what ever gets you there
fun and easy, what more do you want
never heard that described as symmetrical normally that term is used to describe diminished and whole tone scales as their step pattern is symmetrical ie all notes are same distance apart and any can be the root
Outstanding!
Thank you so much!
nice crispy tone!!
nice lesson your back ground white so bright bro.
The audio doesn’t sync with the video in the RUclips app! I tried this video in a browser and it synced. Anyone else have this problem?
Great lesson,,that looks like a great neck on that strat..Thanks again....DH
Thank you!
Just found your channel, and liked the lesson so much I had to sub. I think Dimebag used to do this..:-) Again, great video. Digging that Fender. Looks like it has a roller nut, etc.
Thanks. Yep dimebag definitely did this. Yeah roller nut and locking trem, pretty cool, they don't make them anymore. Never goes out of tune.
Thanks so much. Yeah, I have a strat I built out of an American neck and Mim body, and I'm thinking about having a roller nut and different bridge put on it to have the same setup. I'm over floyds.. I like them as far as staying in tune, but a pain in the butt. :-) Thanks again. Great video..
It's a Fender Floyd Rose trem. Decent piece of machined metal, works great with locking tuners (as a double locking) and the roller nut, like on the old Strat Plus Deluxe. Absolute nightmare to adjust the intonation, as you must "dive" the trem, and work with allen wrenched UNDER the plate. The new FR bridge without fine tuners would probably work the same way.
i"m a really old blues man (saw hendrix live), mainly staying within pentatonics, adding 2nds and 9ths sometimes plus maj 3rd, that"s basically it, i"m not a scaleman, but always looking for adding something special to my blues like 3rd stone from the sun motif style etc. this one occurs to me like a source of inspiration without becoming a mixolydian/dorian/diminshed scale metaller (though i like listening to it). in brief: excellent input that will do for the rest of my remaining life. tnx for this.
give yourself another 15 years...i did...8-)
Depends on what type of player you are. But, a good next step is how to use the pentatonic scale in improvising. You can take that a long way. If you want to learn blues, the best thing to do is learn all positions of the minor AND major pentatonic scales, and then learn licks mix them together. BB King and Eric Clapton are a great place to start. In a 12 bar blues, the chords are a I, a IV, and a V. So, if you are in the key of G, the G is the I, C is the IV, and D is the V. Generally, you play major pentatonic over the I, and minor pentatonic over the IV, and V. If you can do that, you are on your way.
+Kurt Adams I wouldn't waste your time memorizing a bunch of scales. Learn the basic scales, and then just start learning licks that use those scales. You don't learn scales by memorizing them, you learn them by learning how to use them - just learn licks! You don't need to know every position of the scale. SRV and Hendrix mostly player in one or two positions of scales, and they did just fine. Licks are the important part.
Learning to figure out songs takes time. You get better at it every time you learn a new song. A simple trick is to just try and match the low note of the chord you are hearing. Just try and play the bass notes first. If you can match that sound, you are on your way. Usually the low note you here is the root note of the chord. So, if you hear the 3rd feet on the sixth string, then it's probably a g chord. Try it out on some simple songs.
Must be a hit at Guitar Center.
wow....you're good! I want to be like Eddie, you look like the guy to show me the way!
Technically, a "Symmetrical Scale" is something that follows a symmetric note pattern, like whole tone (all whole steps) or 1/2 step whole step diminished (1/2,W,1/2,W,1/2,W etc.)... I think what you meant to say was a symmetric fingering.
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Great EVH tone! Can you tell us your entire signal chain?
you made me say God damn out loud
Love the facial expressions! Esp 6:00
GOLD. GREAT licks
Nice job on the video... I've subscribed and looking forward to more good content :-)
Mi piacerebbe tanto vedere questi esercizi di scale per poter imparare qualcosa.
Thanks for the great lesson.can you talk about the equipment used to make this video. did you mod that fender strat?.amp? Pedals used.thanks
Awesome
ooohhhh myyy veryy helpfull hahah thanks! keep it up Godbless :)
WOW UR REALLy GOOD
ok. my bad. im following along now.
Thank you.
Great lesson, thx! P.S. Can you tab out the very first lick you played in the intro?
Eddie did a thing he liked to call "falling down the stairs and landing on his feet". Sure, there are licks that sound like Eddie, but by the sound of his quote, Im guessing he liked jumping around the neck rather than limiting himself to a scale.
Yep.... You start on a note that fits the song then gibber down the neck and land on the note you need to sound good..... He got that from. Hendrix
@@Swanlord05 “gibber down the neck” is officially my new favorite phrase 🙂👍
nice tutorial.
Nice
The scale is not gibberish. It’s a specific scale with added chromatic notes playing outside the scale. Jazz and fusion players do it all the time. Eddie was a huge Alan Holdsworth fan. Alan was the king of inside and outside playing.
Ciao sono Giuseppe.
Sto cercando di vedere questo video di esercizi di scale di chitarra, ma purtroppo sento la chitarra ma sul video non vedo nulla.
If you say EVH again ,i will scream .Actually i would say Eddie is ,like Jimmy Page and Pat Martino ,playing a Multi Tonal chromatic style . I don't buy Eddie's California "I don't know i just do it" shtick .He played Jazz as a child on a cruise ship ,his father was a Jazz musician . The "Symmetrical scale you played can be derived from "A" melodic minor ,with "A" Half whole diminished ,over laped over it . Your symmetrical scale" and many other "BLUES PATTERNS" as AL Di MEOLA would say can be obtained this way
Bumped into your video looking for VST. My take ...Dominant bebop scale repeated over A D & E (I IV V) roots. Similar to playing A7 D7 E7 drop 5 chords. In your example & EVH's art the A5 dyad (3 notes make a chord) or lack of harmony is why it works so easily. Essentially the single dyad A5 could be looked at as/imply A5, D2 drop 1 5, Esus4. Regardless my ear likes it. The b5, #9 qualities that are bumped into as it moves around the A in the bass is meat & potatoes RnR. EVH being exposed to his dad's jazz & being forced to play piano at a young age gives him a unique ear & approach to rock IMO. EVH was also a fan of Holdsworth, who uses a similar scale. "Jazz Dominant" I think he calls it. A Mixolydian or Bebop Dom with added b3 (#9) & the major 7 passing tone.
What I really want to know is what kind of bridge are you using ? It seems to have locking saddles and could be a direct retro-fit for a strat rout ? Thx for the licks btw.
I don’t think I am programmed to play that fast LOL. Thanks for sharing!
R.I.P. Eddie Van Halen
Are they active pick-ups .how to get that attack like that
Reminds me of Sails of Charon, Ulrich Roth 1977 Taken by Force...
How do u get ur guitar tuning in e standard with no fine tuners,,when I clamp my nuts down on locking nut they always go to sharp sound way out of tune how do u get urs in tune please help mate
so I have a similar Strat with just humbuckers in bridge and neck, and I would love to have a locking trem....How did you get your system in your guitar? Is it not a fender? Can't see the headstock, but I would love your feedback and thanks for the great licks!
I don't think I've seen many other guitar players press the ball of the index finger to the back of the neck like that. I thought I was the only one with that weird habit.
Do it slow or put tablatures if not whats it is the point
I have been playing for almost 20 years and I can't believe how fucking fast you can play. Your pinky dexterity is ridiculous. You play faster than Ed.
Your one badass guitar shredding player dude💫💫💫💫💫five shooting stars✌🏻️peace Dana E💫What are you using for your guitars' voicing/ effects?
What amp or pedal do u use
Thanks so much for the awesome explanations of Symmetrical patterns. I loved the video and it's GREAT exercise! I'm not trying to be critical at all, but I noticed something in your on-screen tab vs. what is being played. Starting at 11:06, you run through the complete lick. In the second measure, it seems your skipping the third group of quintuplets and going straight for the 7 note run. I've slowed the video down, as well as played along, and each time, the tab seems as if it has an extra set in that second measure which your not playing on screen. Not a big deal, playability wise, but now I'm curious, to fit it into a 4:4 timing, should we be learning from the video or the tab? Hope my question is clear enough. Thanks for the hard work and support! You're doing great and these are just what I needed right now! \m/ Rock On \m/
Thanks for all the feedback! Glad you liked the lesson. Yes, you are right! I bet you are one of very few to actually notice. Unfortunately I didn't even catch it until after I posted it, so it's left in. Anyway - play what is in the tab! That is what I meant to play, and it will fit better with the timing. And you're right - these are really good exercises, because of the big stretches. It definitely helped my technique when I started playing these licks. Thanks again!
+GuitarLickDojo Sweet! Whew! I'm not nuts!!! LOL!!! I'm looking forward to adding this kind of stuff to my playing in the coming months. Time to stretch out these old fingers!!
você poderia explicar a lamber que você jogou na introdução em vídeo? a lamber uma sequência de curvas pentatônicas repetitivas?
Dê uma olhada nessas lições. Eles falam sobre licks repetitivas usando a escala pentatônica. Eu costumava idéias como essas para jogar o pingo no início deste vídeo.
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It's the Mixolidian scale I believe!
Mixolydian isn't symmetric
No. No normale mode has off key notes and is symmetrical like that.
It's called slop. The perfection of it comes from a lot of live drunk playing over time.
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And millions of idiots too.
I'm hearing quite a few Rhoads licks in this lesson/demo. Am I the only one?
What bridge humbucker is that?
Suhr SSH+
You play very well but I have to say a symmetrical scale is a scale that splits the octave. A whole tone scale is a good example. I am not trying to be a tool, just saying.
Yeah, I hear you. I know it's not a symmetrical scale by the standard definition. I've just heard a lot of people call this type of scale symmetrical in the past, so I'm going with it. I guess you could say it is a scale with symmetrical fingering.
I like that bridge you have on that guitar, what is that?
It is a fender deluxe locking tremolo. They don't make them anymore unfortunately - they came standard on American deluxe stratocasters in late 90s early 2000s. You can probably find on eBay. They were manufactured with or by Floyd Rose. The strings are locked in with screws. They don't go through the body like a standard fender tremolo. It stays in tune, very very well.
What did you do to practice speed and clarity? I got up to a point in playing where I can't play any faster or when I do play faster, I lose clarity.
I feel your pain. I've been playing for 20 years and I still have trouble playing Slash licks, and he's not even known to be much of a shredder by any means. I've hit a wall and I just can't get any better. Its like I "panic" when I have to play something fast and just fuck everything up!
I use symmetrical scale patterns all the time. They lie in a nice, convenient box pattern, and if you play them fast enough, the listener doesn't really notice the outside notes so much so long as you land on the root note. It's a good way to bridge the gap between two separate root notes over different octaves if you accidentally have a brain fart and zone out unintentionally. Chromatic scale patterns serve the same purpose for me.
Please do Kerry King scale
Ken T Hahahaha
Ken T
Is that a joke? Lol
Is it just me, or is the audio WAY out of sync with the video...? I'm gonna reload the page to see what's going on...
cool
where is the tableture?
Hi, what pick ups are those? The guitar pick up
Suhr pickups - Ssh+ in the bridge, ml in the middle, and ssv in the neck. I think they sound great.
theoretically, this stuff is combining things... modal interchange/diminished 6th are the 2 most important theories to understand before you can really get what's happening with van halen's music... the intervals are full of theoretic changes as you run through the strings...
Anything can be explained but Eddie had no idea what he was doing. He repeatedly admits this in several interviews. He compared his playing to "falling down the stairs and landing on your feet." That is what he says, " if you start and end on the right notes and play fast enough in between you come out alright in the end."
I don't buy any of that ,that is just like Yngwie saying "It goes through many keys and modes and is very difficult to explain,so I'll just demonstrate" Al Di Meola book ,Music Words and Pictures,from the 70s explains "Blues Patterns" it's no big deal
Right on, Dick . I just use the Diminished 1/2 whole dirived from the vii chord of the major modes and cycle it up a minor 3ed to Dorian position ,to get the chuch Berry scale. The Diminished scale works well over Natural minor ,and the V mode of Melodic minor . . Figuring out the intended key of a song can be a challenge some times . BTW what did you mean by Diminished 6ths ? Is that a Pat Martino concept?
Shred Sixsixsix Diminished 6th.... well, there's a bunch of ways to look at it... put yourself in Aminor... now play an Aflat diminished scale.... it derives from the idea that there's 2 sides to the diminished scale. the true nature of this scale is "half step, whole step, half step whole step"... not "step and a half" like everyone usually does... now put that against your "NATURAL NOTES"... ABCDEFG(the white keys on a piano).... most music is based on the triad, the arpeggio.... so that's 135, ACE.... what about the "EVEN" numbers? what do they give you? 246, BDF.... so now let's examine those 3 notes more closely... BDF is a diminished scale with the last note missing to complete the cycle... the only note that could complete the cycle is Aflat... so to play diminished Aminor, you actually would play diminished over Aflat instead... there's 2 sides to every diminished scale.... they are BESIDE each other(i'm hoping you're trying this on a guitar as you read, it's really the best way), anyway... the note in question is "F".... ABCDEFG, 1234567.... "F" is the 6th note in your Aminor scale... Fdiminished over A minor, this scale blends in with Emajor, which would be a typical chord to go to at the end of a progression... holy liftin' fuck, what a bunch of Jargen.... hope it makes sense to you
Shred Sixsixsix dorian... those names for the modes... after 4o years i still don't have em' straight... i replaced all those roman type names with the numbers 1 thru 7, and the light came on, been seeing it more as a number system and following loosely on the letter system... i find it easier doing numbers
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Is that standard tuning or down a half step
+kenny isaccs Standard