Eddie Van Halen's Symmetrical Scales

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  • Опубликовано: 2 июл 2024
  • Here's the next episode of Scales & Tales with Eddie Van Halen's Symmetrical Scales. I've had a lot of requests to feature Eddie's music, playing habits, secrets, and more - so I felt this would be a great lesson to add to the assortment of EVH-related episodes on the LNL channel.
    This lesson takes a look at Eddie's awkward but immensely musical symmetrical scales commonly found in his music. After a brief introduction to what symmetrical scales are and how you can approach using them in music, we're off to the races with countless phrases, licks, and ideas that came directly from Eddies's playing habits and music. Eddie used many of these symmetrical-based ideas and concepts in his playing frequently - from small licks and brief fills to entire guitar solos.
    Once you've worked from this lesson you should have a firmer grip on how to use some of these fingering-based ideas, which can also be found in the inspiring playing of guitar legends such as Allan Holdsworth, Shawn Lane, Buckethead, and countless other masters of symmetrical scale usage. As you'll see, there are various approaches you can find based on this material.
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  •  3 года назад +7

    What a bang-up job on EVH. It is so true, Eddie took convention and dumped it in the trash, cause he and his family were flat-broke. Necessity being the mother of invention, he took it all the way...and built a $300 million empire. Such an extraordinary story. I think that patch of sidewalk in Pasadena, CA where Ed and Alex, scratched "Van Halen" into the wet cement as young adolescents, should be designated a historic site. These boys made good.

  • @vicesquadpunk
    @vicesquadpunk 3 года назад +110

    Man, I am a guitarist of 35 years, a professional music composer and, until recently touring artist. I teach guitar and am still always active in creating and learning. I must say, you are one of THE BEST teachers and proponents of rock, in particular EVH that I have ever seen. I just wanted to give my appreciation, with love from London 🇬🇧 UK ✊️😊

    • @elliotjohnson2159
      @elliotjohnson2159 3 года назад +5

      You need to get out more, buddy!

    • @MrArtist1971
      @MrArtist1971 2 года назад

      Absolutely!

    • @dannymcmince
      @dannymcmince 2 года назад +1

      @@elliotjohnson2159 Bit harsh!

    • @nomandad2000
      @nomandad2000 2 года назад

      @@elliotjohnson2159 gonna follow you, you must be final boss in teaching Van Halen...

    • @alexsandoval1139
      @alexsandoval1139 Год назад

      @@elliotjohnson2159 No need to be such a cuck

  • @bingefeller
    @bingefeller 3 года назад +77

    The solo on Push Comes To Shove is a masterpiece. It's when Eddie went Holdsworthian for a few seconds and then back into Eddie land. It really is beautiful.

    • @b.scottfarthingsworth
      @b.scottfarthingsworth 3 года назад +11

      To me, his most tastiest well written solo ever ever ever

    • @Jason-Evans
      @Jason-Evans 3 года назад +3

      Agreed. I always thought I was the only one that felt this way, but reading many comments since his passing about the love for this solo. It's def Eddie's love letter to Holdsworth, has such intense emotion & my all time fav VH solo. Cheers!

    • @CaptnShred
      @CaptnShred 3 года назад +4

      Yess!! Lately I've been listening to that song a lot. The phrasing is just so fluid and impeccable. That song is criminally slept over.

    • @b.scottfarthingsworth
      @b.scottfarthingsworth 3 года назад +1

      and jason evans - this popped up today in my face and of course I knew you'd dig and instrumental version, enjoy my VH family
      ruclips.net/video/LLsPejkhK-c/видео.html

    • @atomicpunk520
      @atomicpunk520 3 года назад +3

      His best work & prolly greatest solo all time by any .............. bar none!

  • @JP-dl4ci
    @JP-dl4ci 3 года назад +21

    I never knew why Eddie's solos sounded so unique. It's because lots of notes his licks were not part of the proper scale. It's those clashing notes that give it a flair. Very cool. Thanka.

  • @patrickkish6662
    @patrickkish6662 3 года назад +132

    Dude, as far as I'm concerned, Christmas comes every time you post a video. You're the gift that keeps on giving. Take it to the heart, my man👍🏼

    • @dwainphillips
      @dwainphillips Год назад +1

      Yes sir I've taken so many licks from him just sitting and talking playing explaining how this is done. ✔️ you can't help but learn.

  • @doncampbell7468
    @doncampbell7468 2 года назад +3

    Well said my brother. I will say this that I have never cried over anyone other than friends or family so far as anyone passing, but after it’s sunk into my head for about 20 minutes and I thought about that smiling face and how many years I have studied and listened and admired his playing it really just broke me down …like I had just lost my best friend… His impact on me and some of my really close friends has been more than words can describe because that’s how he played …thank God for recordings. God bless brother

  • @wulfenii64
    @wulfenii64 3 года назад +13

    There is not much more that I can say about Eddie's talents. He was the best in my book.

  • @supravatdebnath9464
    @supravatdebnath9464 2 года назад +4

    You are one of THE BEST IF NOT THE BEST guitar/music teachers in youtube right now. Don't know why this channel didn't blow up already. Keep up this great teaching channel, you are a gem. This channel is goona be epic!!!!

  • @staceyowens8496
    @staceyowens8496 3 года назад +7

    Great lesson, and it's cool to see Eddie's licks broken down in such a way that they make sense. You do a fantastic job of teaching. I never could play like Eddie but I always loved & appreciated what he did.

  • @curiousjorge6426
    @curiousjorge6426 3 года назад +19

    You are an awesome teacher! You do such a great job in explaining the “why” behind the music. You do it in such a nice and encouraging way as well.

    • @xjbomb4463
      @xjbomb4463 Год назад

      I don't know all the names exp 3rd 9th Dorian. But I do get the shapes .and you have got to be be hands down one of the best at explaining some of this .even if you don't know the technical names your a huge help.because I know many of these scales bit not the names .and you help apply it even if your not a theory guru.

  • @stringbender11672
    @stringbender11672 3 года назад +10

    Excellent breakdown, David!!! I love your point of view on these EVH ideas. Gives me a whole new way of looking at all of them. Thank you for this!!🤘😎👍🎸🎸🎸🔥🔥🔥💣💣💥💥

  • @tak178
    @tak178 3 года назад +3

    I've been playing for 25 years, and I never knew where these shapes came from. I was a huge EVH fan when I began to play in my teens, and now I know how and where these "symmetrical scale" ideas popped in my head. I have seen the light! Thank you!

  • @bertgetner9397
    @bertgetner9397 3 года назад +5

    Killer lesson Dave! Please take us on your journey through EVH land. There's so much to learn.

  • @bogotta
    @bogotta 3 месяца назад +1

    Thank you.
    Your star wars poster was my wallpaper as a kid. I cant express what Eddie's music means to me. Respect.

  • @BillLarkinmusic
    @BillLarkinmusic 3 года назад +5

    You have put so much heart into these Late Night Lessons and uncovered topics of mystery and have made my day many times thank you!!!!

  • @ThePoesse
    @ThePoesse 3 года назад

    What a fantastic explanation of why those symmetrical scales work! I've been working on them a long time myself and your lesson is incredibly useful. Thanks for catering to us VH fanatics. It's one thing to be able to play like you do but to explain and inspire at the same time is a gift. A sincere thank you.

  • @JimmyKSimmonsOfficial
    @JimmyKSimmonsOfficial 10 месяцев назад

    This was awesome - I never learned this kind of stuff when I played professionally, just found different shapes that I liked and made them work - its really cool to see I was tapping into something much bigger and didnt even know it! Thanks for explaining it, you did a great job!

  • @richardnoonan9867
    @richardnoonan9867 Год назад

    Awesome stuff. Your lessons are always so informative. Keep it coming man👍👍👍👍

  • @chriscampbell9191
    @chriscampbell9191 3 года назад +1

    Fascinating. I've seen hints of this in some vids where guitarists are showing some of Eddie's solos, but you take it apart in a way that makes it a lot easier to understand. Thank you for posting this video. PS love the looks and sound of that sunburst you've got.

  • @richardjewett7702
    @richardjewett7702 3 года назад +2

    LOVE how you used legato on the scale shapes along with economy picking too!

  • @colourtones
    @colourtones 3 года назад +1

    A very excellent lesson, Dave! Really dig your utilitarian presentation of these stellar EVH facets.

  • @jackdellad4602
    @jackdellad4602 3 года назад

    You're lightning quick and always thorough in your videos. A Maestro all yourself, a great teacher for the highly advanced player and an inspiration for those yearning to become better. Great stuff man, thankyou.

  • @Hydrophish
    @Hydrophish 3 года назад +1

    Your lessons are so well done, thanks for another great one!

  • @JohnVullo
    @JohnVullo 3 года назад +4

    I remember when I first started taking guitar lessons and got a bit into VH, I remember that pattern at 8:20 from "Im the One". I asked my teacher if it was deliberate or it was just him being lazy just taking that 1-2-4 shape up the strings. He said it was deliberate but I didn't believe him really. I was so ingrained into thinking of those diatonic scale shapes, and how those licks 'need' to fit the diatonic scale pattern. I thought it was laziness haha. Now I know its a mix of simplicity and harmonic interest, which is really very smart!

  • @sierramodre1
    @sierramodre1 3 года назад +1

    GREAT take on EVH; will hope to apply some of these lessons... thanks so much for posting Late Night 👏🏻🎯⚡️

  • @ski5150
    @ski5150 3 года назад +1

    BAM! David does it again! Thank you so much. Not only for your insight, but for your inviting, thorough, and calming teaching method. You da man! Appreciate all you do! Thanks man.

  • @Blue_3rd
    @Blue_3rd 3 года назад +1

    Brilliant! Thank you, David. This was a real eye (and ear and finger) opener 😃👏👏

  • @marcostabile848
    @marcostabile848 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for decrypting the Master! really interesting and well explained. I was looking for this video for a long time :) ! so cool

  • @TheRiverRiseII
    @TheRiverRiseII 3 года назад +4

    Even though this level of playing is so far beyond my comprehension, it's still fascinating to watch (and 'kinda' learn). Thanks, LNL!!

  • @h0tsex0r
    @h0tsex0r 3 года назад +2

    Brewster just wanna say THANK YOU for actually having a nice tone in your videos. Some other guys have kemper direct stuff that hurts the old eardrums

  • @2216sammy
    @2216sammy 2 года назад

    Wow , very well done . I can see your emotion when speaking about him at the end it's hard to not get emotional because Eddie really was that special .

  • @Katalysaattori
    @Katalysaattori 3 года назад +1

    This was super! Thanks a lot! My mind opened up and now I have work to do forever.👍

  • @JustyStoky
    @JustyStoky 3 года назад +2

    Dave, you and Ben Eller are probably my favorite teachers on RUclips. Love it

  • @addictiveoverdrive5091
    @addictiveoverdrive5091 3 года назад +1

    Great explanation man, it’s amazing how this guys did things and how hard it looks but once broken down doesn’t seem so intimidating

  • @kiplukewhitehead8522
    @kiplukewhitehead8522 3 года назад +1

    Brilliant lesson. Nice articulation on those examples too. Done the great man justice for sure. Thanks man.

  • @louisdeath8965
    @louisdeath8965 3 года назад

    Great lesson! You always have a killer tone! I also love the 14/17/20 from bottom’s up.

  • @uncleremus5046
    @uncleremus5046 3 года назад +2

    Another great lesson 🍺’ski with great detail. Also thanks for the Cd’s digging both of them.🤘

  • @metalzombie6669
    @metalzombie6669 5 месяцев назад

    my favorite video, Thank You for the EVH lesson.

  • @kamoverturf6192
    @kamoverturf6192 3 года назад +1

    Something that i noticed about Ed’s playing during the mid 80s-90s (Hagar era) is that he’d mix multiple symmetrical scales during one phrase. Which is interesting because the mixture of patterns kinda imply actual scales as opposed the symmetrical patterns, which isn’t something evh is known for typically. Anyhow great lesson! I love your content, it’s like visit from Santa when your vids pop up in my notifications!

  • @larryk1978
    @larryk1978 3 года назад

    awesome video my friend!! Thanks for the great info!!

  • @scottwaszak698
    @scottwaszak698 3 года назад +2

    That opening salvo of notes in Ice Cream Man is simply breathtaking, and may be the greatest intro into a sole, ever!

  • @FrankSpeer66
    @FrankSpeer66 3 года назад

    This is an amazing video brother! Lots more like this please and thank you.

  • @petew.1418
    @petew.1418 3 года назад +1

    Great video, David!
    I used to use these in the 80s, but sort of forgot about it over time.
    (Ok. Not "sort of", definitely forgot about it.)
    You've given me some work to do.
    THANKS!

  • @cleaningsuplydepot8595
    @cleaningsuplydepot8595 3 года назад

    Thank you for your humble approach and sharing with us!

  • @J24777
    @J24777 3 года назад

    Sweet!! Thanks for sharing this with us! Always enjoy watching you show us...

  • @nicoladisvevia
    @nicoladisvevia 3 года назад

    A wonderful lesson and very engaging. I shall try out more symmetrical patterns!

  • @saldifrancesca2500
    @saldifrancesca2500 2 года назад

    Another great lesson and breakdown of Eddie's style and technique.

  • @PhilFeedback
    @PhilFeedback 3 года назад +2

    Great lesson video, thanks for posting this video!
    Rest In Peace Eddie Van Halen

  • @johnegan4762
    @johnegan4762 2 года назад

    Wow, nice lesson and show of love for Eddie.

  • @krayjay7146
    @krayjay7146 3 года назад

    David your lessons are an amazing treasure trove of information,thank you so much!

  • @clearmanlawyers753
    @clearmanlawyers753 2 года назад

    Man, thank you for your cool lessons and this lesson in particular. Awesome.

  • @gregceltorius4962
    @gregceltorius4962 10 месяцев назад

    Your channel has excellent content. We appreciate your clarity in your lessons David. Thank you from Montreal, Canada!

  • @fasteddierocs
    @fasteddierocs 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for all these awesome lessons Brother🤘

  • @tonynewell3801
    @tonynewell3801 3 года назад +2

    Great lesson. Invaluable insight into Eddie's genius. Even though I've heard them hundreds of times. I so enjoy you breaking down unmistakable VH licks. This would be a chapter in the Rock Guitar Gospel. Well done!

  • @jameslabs1
    @jameslabs1 3 года назад

    Appreciate the clear concise breakdown. Very good thanks

  • @kirkgreenman1386
    @kirkgreenman1386 3 года назад

    Thank you, That was some Awesome information. I Will be practicing .

  • @BangBangBeefyMacNCheesy
    @BangBangBeefyMacNCheesy 3 года назад

    The one trick or or lick I knew EVH made heavy use of was the 12-15-17 or similar variations... you did a great job of unlocking most of his technique here pretty much as well as anyone I’ve seen. Nicely done sir 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @MDMOTP
    @MDMOTP 3 года назад +1

    Incredible. You are hands down the Best Teacher I have ever come across. Thank you... :)

  • @brianschraeder2832
    @brianschraeder2832 3 года назад

    Great video. Please continue this video with even more in depth videos about EVH.

  • @slamham8527
    @slamham8527 Год назад

    Outstanding. Thank you!

  • @stevetaylor6488
    @stevetaylor6488 3 года назад

    Thanks very much Dave - superb lesson. When you break it down, the concept so much easier. At the time it sounded like heaven simply because it was Eddie

  • @greg.2071
    @greg.2071 3 года назад

    Love your lessons! Thank you!

  • @CarcPazu
    @CarcPazu 3 года назад

    First time watching one of your videos, this was awesome. You've just won yourself a sub man!

  • @mos6507
    @mos6507 3 года назад +4

    Really informative. Deceptively simple technique with a musically complex result.

  • @robm3569
    @robm3569 Год назад

    There's no end to learning the fretboard of the guitar and the beauty hidden therein and I really appreciate the passion and joy you bring to exploring this wonderful instrument. I'm glad I stumbled upon and subscribed to your channel. All the best.

  • @mattmarcz7574
    @mattmarcz7574 2 года назад

    Awesome playing as usual. Love the Rutles sign!

  • @edwardglyons
    @edwardglyons 3 года назад

    Fantastic lesson. Thank you!

  • @notjonpeavey
    @notjonpeavey Год назад

    Fantastic lesson. I've played guitar for 30 years and have been able to learn stuff from Hendrix, Stevie, Trucks, etc etc. Any time I hear Eddie licks I'm immediately stumped, lol and awash with confusion. Even as a little kid I was Isolde's by these sounds. This lesson helped to decipher decades of question mark above my head. Nice!

  • @jimsmirh2406
    @jimsmirh2406 3 года назад +1

    Good info. That’ll be a great lesson.

  • @neverquit9414
    @neverquit9414 3 года назад

    That was a great lesson....Thank you!!!

  • @yes0genesis
    @yes0genesis 3 года назад

    Awesome lesson!

  • @petermartin6813
    @petermartin6813 3 года назад

    Great video, your knowledge of Van Halen licks is superb.

  • @danielhahn7329
    @danielhahn7329 3 года назад +1

    Amazing lesson!

  • @antuanheath8234
    @antuanheath8234 3 года назад

    Great lesson mate and great insight!

  • @jimbenny3331
    @jimbenny3331 3 года назад

    You’re awesome !
    Thank you for honoring Eddie the way that you do.

  • @gianpaolousai1768
    @gianpaolousai1768 3 года назад

    Best Van Halen tutorial I ever watched! Thank you

  • @jamesmorelli5393
    @jamesmorelli5393 3 года назад

    David. Thank You for what you do ! Thank you for sharing your thoughts and knowledge, Your the best !

  • @Joel-nd5tk
    @Joel-nd5tk 3 года назад

    Great instructional lesson. Well done.

  • @janiterinadrum1627
    @janiterinadrum1627 3 года назад

    I've been playing guitar since the late 70s.. had lots and lots of teachers lived in different states.. but you're a good one Dave,,you come across well, and easy going and easy to understand. Not to mention a deep deep catalog of guitar players famous and obscure which makes it a very interesting channel so thanks

  • @dcstar7994
    @dcstar7994 3 года назад

    Awesome job!!

  • @stefguitar2349
    @stefguitar2349 3 года назад

    This is so well explained, one of the best lessons I have seen in terms of applying technique, theory in an engaging way, I took a lot from this lesson, thank you 👍👍

  • @nokomisnichols
    @nokomisnichols 3 года назад +3

    What a fantastic lesson.

  • @robbowen1242
    @robbowen1242 2 года назад

    Really enjoying your lessons Dave ! I also enjoyed your personal appreciation for our beloved magician !!!

  • @CaptnShred
    @CaptnShred 3 года назад +4

    I've been listening to Push Comes To Shove a lot lately, it might have my favorite EVH solo. That song is just one brilliant guitar part after the other.

  • @hugechimp
    @hugechimp 3 года назад +23

    EVH=GOAT

    • @uncleremus5046
      @uncleremus5046 3 года назад +3

      I gave ya a like but I love Rhoads first. Close call tho.

  • @JeffAlanSheehan
    @JeffAlanSheehan 3 года назад

    another outstanding video!

  • @spanishmackerel
    @spanishmackerel 3 года назад

    Awesome. Thanks for sharing the knowledge.

  • @georgeherrera5809
    @georgeherrera5809 3 года назад

    Great lesson as always.

  • @christopherspohn7932
    @christopherspohn7932 2 года назад

    David Brewster, I think that's your name "thank you" for the video's you do. I personally met Eddie Van Halen while he was alive way back in the 1990's he explained a bunch of his approach and you are very close to what he said to me. He used chromatic with little bit of a focus on specific scales, but it was usually standard fingering pattern. A very simple approach after meeting him and Glen Cambell, which is why Eddie Van Halen met me he wanted me to introduce him to Gen Campbell. Between meeting Eddie and Glen it made me re-asses what my playing focus and practice should be less memorization and more learning to hear what was there, it shortened my practice and opened my view of playing up. Thanks, Mr. Brewster for reminding me of Eddie.

  • @mathieumalaprade608
    @mathieumalaprade608 10 месяцев назад

    Great great course... You definitely understand the guy... Best way to understand his art and teach it.... Merci

  • @craigberry4051
    @craigberry4051 3 года назад

    Great stuff mate!

  • @Paulskirocks
    @Paulskirocks 2 года назад

    Cool lesson. Thanks

  • @rockonrory1
    @rockonrory1 3 года назад +1

    Great work Dave!! Love that “ice cream man” phrase.
    That’s one hell of a stretch!👍🇬🇧

  • @HayloBand
    @HayloBand 10 месяцев назад +2

    After decades of doing tribute bands I finally decided to do a VH tribute and what you are showing here is exactly what I learned! EVH was all about shapes rather than conventional scales. To my ear it all comes out sounding kind of like what a birds singing sounds like or an even weirder reference would be R2D2 😂 the first and last note matters and anything in between is just a wild collage of notes that don’t really make sense but sure are fun to listen to! Ad a dive bomb here and there, harmonics, a little blues and finger tapping and wala, that was EVHs bag of tricks right there. Great job on the video!
    Btw, I swear I have met you somewhere? Have you ever been to England, Alaska, Japan or phoenix Arizona? The first time I saw one of your videos I was like “ don’t I know this guy ?”

  • @35rocker
    @35rocker 3 года назад +1

    Awesome lesson David, you make those damn stretches look so easy! 🤪😂🤘

  • @paulyg1742
    @paulyg1742 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for your lessons. You are a fantastic teacher. Got bless Eddie Van Halen

  • @FantasyFilms100
    @FantasyFilms100 3 года назад +1

    Yess!! You have the best Van Halen videos!!!! Thanks!!

  • @stephenlandry9343
    @stephenlandry9343 2 года назад

    Fascinating! What great dexterity exercises!

  • @xaudiophile2
    @xaudiophile2 3 года назад

    Off to play now, thank you!

  • @anthonyjames9711
    @anthonyjames9711 3 года назад

    This is so challenging. I never really looked at the holdsworth side of Ed's playing. I will be trying it now, thanks Dave you did it again.