@@youbian Well yes, but generally when people get older they sound older. Some age is added to their voice that wasn't there originally. Whether it be some raspiness or bassiness, etc. Subtle but noticeable changes.
I completely agree. Marcia obviously had a strong affinity for editing and pulling a narrative together, but it would have meant nothing without: The story The script The company The special effects company The sound effects company The $ deal The editing room The film footage painstakingly shot All of which were created and provided by George Lucas.
@@grantmalone The point is that the first cut of Star Wars was done by Lucas' first editor, who had a different vision than George Lucas. The first cut was a disaster, and the editor had to be fired. George Lucas was working with every single aspect of the movie, coordinating, figuratively directing all teams, probably with daily meetings. Special effects, conveying how he wanted the music, sounds. Editing was a very important part and he used to come in on weekends to recut it because he didn't have any time during the working week. Obviously he needed new editors and luckily he got some very talented ones. They recut the movie under the supervision of George Lucas, and they were implementing his vision. Any creative change they wanted (for example the death star moving to blow up the rebel base) needed to be approved by George Lucas. The claim that they were more or less working independently or being rogues to improve the movie is false. Everyone working on the project was implementing George's vision and especially the editors. The only thing that surpassed George's vision was the soundtrack. Another first cut that was an absolute disaster was Empire strikes back. George was furious when he saw it. A lot of work had to be done to fix the movie, including expensive reshoots and lots of reediting. Nothing becomes extraordinary without hardships and challenges. Those movies that you refer to that only requires basic editing are likely basic movies in an established genre. I challenge you to present any master piece where the film making process was completely smooth. For example the lord of the rings had many problems. Many reshoots, script changes, injuries on set, dangerous shoots. But the end product was... well the lord of the rings.
@@Grivian there were no expensive reshoots in Empire. In fact, the editing of the film went much quicker and smoother than the other two, even though there were disagreements between Kersh and Lucas.
@@jedijones The editing alters your perception of the acting chops, the character conflicts and the tension of the action scenes and the movie. It cuts the film into digestatable bites and if the digestion doesn't work as intended, the feelings/intentions of the writers don't translate as needed and the movie starts to weaken on all fronts. The original Star Wars was uninteresting disaster before editing.
@@hermos3602 It's funny how at one time virtually everyone used to demonize him, especially with the Prequels. Then 'The Last Jedi' happened and it's suddenly "Come back George you were the best!" Fans really can be fickle... 🤷♂️
@@minicle426 it did since he was bankrolling the movie from his own pocket, he basically ran to make sure everything was in order because he was afraid that if the film didn’t succeed he would lose everything
No he wasn't. Genius doesn't leave you. He had smarter, better people around him during the first trilogy so he was carried. The second trilogy, when he had complete control, proved his utter lack of genius. The prequels were garbage. The new films aren't good either. That doesn't mean George wouldn't have produced a huge pile of dog shit again.
You don't see a lot of intermediate George Lucas footage, between his early days as a skinny maverick film-maker and his later years as a fat, old, corporate grandfather. But in this footage... you can see bits of both. Like it's smack in the middle of that very brief transition.
@@odiadordeisrael A. I think you're misinformed about how much of his 4-billion-dollar price tag for Star Wars went to charity. It was (supposedly) 1 of those 4 billions that was going to charity. Not the whole 4. And I'm sure a lot of that has to do with the MASSIVE taxes he would've had to pay for that one-time transaction otherwise. Also... what can one more billion buy ya that 3 billion won't? B. What the hell does any of that have to do with a (3 year old) comment primarily concerning the intermediate nature of the man's weight? How does anyone manage to get so goddamn touchy about someone they don't know? Try talking to a professional. Maybe it's you who should be on something. C. Fuck you too, sir. I'll talk shit about whomever I have a mind to at any given moment. And then I'll talk more shit. Your personal threshold for taking offense doesn't matter in the slightest, you self-important fuck-wit. D. Have a nice day!
@@odiadordeisrael Never actually insulted the man's weight, in case that escaped your attention. I just mentioned it. But, yes. I absolutely _do_ have the "right" to insult him, you, or anybody else. Just like you have the right to insult me over ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Everybody has that right, you ridiculous hypocritical virtue-signalling moron. Look it up, if you don't believe me. And a society without such a right would be a very horrifying place to live for everybody involved, even if you're too stupid to realize that. Fuck you too.
@@zardox78 Yes, you did. That's exactly what you said, fat corporate. Because of course he's as corporate as crap like Disney, right? And it's funny that you came up with all that bullshit because someone called you out on your "George bad" bullshit lmao
@@crashpal utter bullshit. "He did not believe in himself" is bullshit. Truth is Lucas stated publically that these films are very timeconsuming to make and that he enjoys being a dad spending time with his children. Therefore he gave Disney the opportunity to create more Star Wars for the fans, which would also provide himself with the financial resources to realize less profitable passion projects. Also, people hated Lucas way before he sold his property so you cannot even make that argument
there are many editors on every film. just like there are many directors. thousands and thousands of feet of film. often only a small number of people can be credited because of Union/Guild laws. George Lucas is an editor. he is the ultimate creator of this film. so I would guess he contributed a hell of a lot.
He doesn't sound like someone from the 70-80's from what you see in films and tv shows from the era and many actors from that era which i guess makes sense but it's very strange in my eyes.
@@ejn8982never mind him. Lucas Derangement Syndrome is as common as HIV is in chimpanzees Given Lucas was the Executive Producer and head of Lucas Film at the time Empire as was released was the movie Lucas wanted and got
its the other way around, Kershners original cut was awful and Lucas had to fix it with editing and reshoots requiring him to take out a second loan and nearly have to sell Star Wars..................so yeah
@@MrMarsFargo Yeah you're right. Marcia and George contributed to editing Empire. I do believe that Marcia contributed more. Based on your original comment, you probably think that George never had any talent and that he was a shitty writer/director from the very beginning. Yes, the original films were more of a collaborative effort. Yes, Marcia contributed to editing the films and gave some ideas (and she did an especially good job editing Star Wars (1977)). But if George was never a good filmmaker, the original films (especially the original Star Wars film) wouldn't have turned out so good. He wrote the stories for Empire and ROTJ. And Star Wars (1977) was still a well-written, well-directed film. He obviously deteriorated as a filmmaker after Return of the Jedi.
@@OrphanedZombie She flat out rewrote his entire screenplay, and still has no writing credit. _ I also wasn't talking about THX-1138, or American Graffiti, I was talking about Star Wars. So I don't know where you got the notion I thought he was a "shitty director from the beginning," seeing as I wasn't talking about George, I was talking about Marcia. _ What I DO think is that very little of what made the original trilogy great originated from him, since most of that was either Marcia's draft of the screenplay or his cinematographer and actors going against basically all his ideas during the filming of "Episode IV." _ In terms of Episode V, he had no input into that film after the second draft. After that, it was all Irvin Kershner and Marcia Lucas (the earlier of which demanded total creative freedom in his contract, thus actively VETOING George's ideas). _ The one Lucas was most involved in was "Return of the Jedi," and even then most of his ideas were vetoed or replaced by producer Gary Kurtz, screenwriter Lawrence Kasdan, or Marcia Lucas's editorial refinement. _
@@MrMarsFargo Marcia Lucas did not rewrite George's screenplay of Star Wars (1977). She gave some ideas like killing off Ben Kenobi and having the Leia kiss Luke on the cheek. She is an editor, not a screenwriter. Of course she deserves credit for the editing and the ideas she gave. George Lucas wrote the screenplay - Gloria Katz and William Huyck were script doctors that added the humor to the final script. And that's just the writing. The original film was also well-directed. The documentary-style of the film was George's style of directing. Yes, the direction did contribute to how great the film turned out. - In terms of Episode V, yes he wrote the second draft of the story. After that, Lawrence Kasdan wrote the subsequent drafts with input from Irvin Kershner until the final draft of the screenplay was made. In George's draft, George came up with the idea of Luke being trained by Yoda and Darth Vader being Luke's father. - I don't think that Lucas was most involved in Return of the Jedi. He literally directed the original Star Wars film and did most of the writing.
How did this guy regress so much in the space of like less than 20 years. You can sense his passion and his technical genius in this interview, fast forward to the prequels and I think he just got complacent and lazy.
Quite far from reality frankly. George was at the top of his game when he did the prequels, each one of those films is like the original films on steroids . When George was talking about animatics here to plan out what would happen in the scene before they shot it and edited it, is a precursor to the same thing they used in the prequels for the same purpose .
@@mackmitchell94 How in anyways is this like what happened in the prequels ? Here they use animatics in a very clever way and use it to be an example after for both physical model stop motion and also blue screen inclusion in a very limited way. In the prequels CGI becomes the story. Lighting is off, the sets are flat and the camera has no point. There's also a very obvious realisation that nothing looks real as a result of this and when they do include on location places it looks out of place because we've just been watching cgi a few minutes ago. Technology simply wasn't advanced enough for Lucas to make all cgi sci-fi fantasy flicks in the late 90's early 00's
@@GreedosGun no, it was completely the opposite. Lucas used the CGI because it was the only way to tell that story the way it needed to be told . A good director uses whatever tools are at their disposal to tell the story they’re telling, practical vs CGI doesn’t matter . Cmon Revan, I expected better. You should know the prequels used much more practical effects than the originals anyways, the phantom menace used more than the entire original trilogy combined, and more than The Force Awakens even though they made a big deal about being a return to practical effects. Simply put, the prequels just had so many more effects shots than the originals. Again, essentially the original trilogy on steroids . They used the animatics in the prequels in the exact same way, the only difference is the animatics were much more advanced given how much time had passed, and how much technology improved, with George Lucas being largely responsible for that fact . Don’t be an ignorant old head who thinks technology should stay what it was in the 70s and 80s in all cases .
@@mackmitchell94 I dony think they should stick to 70s tech, you're just strawmanning my position. I hear this dumb argument from prequel defenders all the time, so what if they used more practical affects than OT. They were way longer films in total, with bigger budgets and war more SFX overall. The proportion of CGI to practical is undoubtedly skewed very heavily in favour of cgi. As you can see almost every scene has a blue screen in which makes things totally unnatural and hard to convey emotion through the dialogue which lucas always had trouble with. At times it looks fake to the extreme as is with phantom menace droid army or watto. When you're spending half your money and time just in the computer room yk your film is gonna bomb. There's unfortunately little interesting about the prequels which goes way beyond the cgi issue
OddballEasyEight That's completely untrue, they had another editor which was editing it badly so he fired him and hired his wife who was a professional editor who worked with Martin Scorcese and worked closely in collaboration with her, editing it how he wanted it. George has many flaws but you're just hating without reason at this point.
Have any of you seen how boring and uninteresting the raw footage of the original film was? Paul Hirsch (one of the editors) said there was no excitement in the footage, and had to manipulate it specifically to make it interesting.
Yes, we've all seen the outtakes featured in the Empire of Dreams. They're terribly dull. That's why they're outtakes. Every movie has them. Every director makes them. Judging a director by a rough cut of his movie doesn't make any sense.
I think I remember hearing a new hope was put together with virtually everything they had shot. no extra footage or scenes were left to use from the cutting room floor. which is another injoke with the sandpeople at the begining where they replay back and forth one raising his spear in the air. lol
He sounds EXACTLY the same.
@@youbian Well yes, but generally when people get older they sound older. Some age is added to their voice that wasn't there originally. Whether it be some raspiness or bassiness, etc. Subtle but noticeable changes.
I literally only watched this to hear what he sounded like when he was younger... I was kinda disappointed
He seemed level headed back then.
Why wouldn’t he? He’s the same person.
@@Robert-tl2vg Age tends to change the voice of a person even if it's subtle. But with George it seems like it hasn't changed even slightly.
It's feels like old Lucas dubbed voice on his young self.
George Lucas Star Wars Episode V interview Special Edition.
DAMN IT LUCAS! STOP CHANGING YOU'RE SHIT!
YOUR. Unless you meant it as an insult.
Maybe because he was already an adult, and not everyone's voice changes?! Ever thought about that. Are you actually THAT dumb?
When people say "STAR WARS WAS SAVED IN THE EDIT!" I just roll my eyes. EVERY movie is saved in the edit. George explains that here.
True, but people just never want to give credit to Lucas for Empire.
Even though it would have been fucked without him.
I completely agree. Marcia obviously had a strong affinity for editing and pulling a narrative together, but it would have meant nothing without:
The story
The script
The company
The special effects company
The sound effects company
The $ deal
The editing room
The film footage painstakingly shot
All of which were created and provided by George Lucas.
@@grantmalone The point is that the first cut of Star Wars was done by Lucas' first editor, who had a different vision than George Lucas. The first cut was a disaster, and the editor had to be fired. George Lucas was working with every single aspect of the movie, coordinating, figuratively directing all teams, probably with daily meetings. Special effects, conveying how he wanted the music, sounds. Editing was a very important part and he used to come in on weekends to recut it because he didn't have any time during the working week. Obviously he needed new editors and luckily he got some very talented ones. They recut the movie under the supervision of George Lucas, and they were implementing his vision. Any creative change they wanted (for example the death star moving to blow up the rebel base) needed to be approved by George Lucas. The claim that they were more or less working independently or being rogues to improve the movie is false. Everyone working on the project was implementing George's vision and especially the editors. The only thing that surpassed George's vision was the soundtrack.
Another first cut that was an absolute disaster was Empire strikes back. George was furious when he saw it. A lot of work had to be done to fix the movie, including expensive reshoots and lots of reediting.
Nothing becomes extraordinary without hardships and challenges. Those movies that you refer to that only requires basic editing are likely basic movies in an established genre. I challenge you to present any master piece where the film making process was completely smooth. For example the lord of the rings had many problems. Many reshoots, script changes, injuries on set, dangerous shoots. But the end product was... well the lord of the rings.
@@Grivian there were no expensive reshoots in Empire. In fact, the editing of the film went much quicker and smoother than the other two, even though there were disagreements between Kersh and Lucas.
“If the editing doesn’t work the movie doesn’t work.”
True
But if the filming doesn't work does the editing work? And if the acting doesn't work does the filming work?
@@jedijones The editing alters your perception of the acting chops, the character conflicts and the tension of the action scenes and the movie. It cuts the film into digestatable bites and if the digestion doesn't work as intended, the feelings/intentions of the writers don't translate as needed and the movie starts to weaken on all fronts.
The original Star Wars was uninteresting disaster before editing.
*cough* the rise of skywalker
@@CakesWarden There are some things that simply can't be saved. 🤷♂️
the hopping at-at
I love George Lucas... There I said it!
You know we live in scary times when it's a hot take to say that you like George Lucas.
@@hermos3602 It's funny how at one time virtually everyone used to demonize him, especially with the Prequels.
Then 'The Last Jedi' happened and it's suddenly "Come back George you were the best!"
Fans really can be fickle... 🤷♂️
Yes. Me too!!! I just love Star Wars too much, for that I'm grateful to Lucas's genius
George is so matter of fact here in talking about what many consider not just the best Star Wars movie, but one of the greatest films ever made.
George was simply a filmmaker just following his passion. Whether the movie was a success or not didn't deter him.
@@minicle426 it did since he was bankrolling the movie from his own pocket, he basically ran to make sure everything was in order because he was afraid that if the film didn’t succeed he would lose everything
Cutting the scene together 2 weeks before it's released. No pressure.
Great man at work.
After he finished the original trilogy, Lucas should've become a full time editor. It seems like that's where his heart is - or at least was.
BarronBrothersFilms his ex wife was an editor who saved A New Hope from being a mess. She got the only Star Wars oscar for her editing.
A lot of people bring up Marcia in order to demean George Lucas.
@@DEMfilmsJWalsh "Star Wars" got more than one Oscar, you know...
@@DEMfilmsJWalsh Yeah, she edited the film like editors do. Are you familiar with the concept of rough cut?
That's what he did, it's called the prequel trilogy. He edited all 3 of them, that's why they're great.
#BringGeorgeBack
But we never hear "EmpIre StrIkes BacK wAs SavEd iN ThE EdIT"
Curious
This man was a genius when he made the original trilogy. JJ and Rian wish they were half the filmaker George was.
No he wasn't. Genius doesn't leave you. He had smarter, better people around him during the first trilogy so he was carried. The second trilogy, when he had complete control, proved his utter lack of genius. The prequels were garbage. The new films aren't good either. That doesn't mean George wouldn't have produced a huge pile of dog shit again.
Shane M You know nothing about Star Wars.
Shane M go fuck yourself you little bitch. Go watch your knock of brand Star Wars
@@user-tl4fi6oy8d prequels aren't garbage, better than most films ever made hence their popularity and scores. Both the Critics and fans think so lmao
@@user-tl4fi6oy8d the sequel trilogy makes the prequels look like masterpieces.
Is nobody going to mention the jumping ATAT at 1:50 ?
That was hilarious! The artists must have had quite the laugh with that.
This is real Star Wars. When it was pure storytelling. Where it needs to return to.
0:43 John Lennon!
The edit is the film.
@ the 1:50 mark whoever did the hand drawn animation SHOULD ALSO STARTED LUCAS ANIMATION DEPARTMENT IN HOUSE INSTEAD OUTSOURCING.
always had the same voice but i never seen him so young
He Looks Handsome.
You don't see a lot of intermediate George Lucas footage, between his early days as a skinny maverick film-maker and his later years as a fat, old, corporate grandfather. But in this footage... you can see bits of both. Like it's smack in the middle of that very brief transition.
What the fuck are you on? He used his 4 billion from Disney for charity and you are talking shit about his person? Fuck off
@@odiadordeisrael A. I think you're misinformed about how much of his 4-billion-dollar price tag for Star Wars went to charity. It was (supposedly) 1 of those 4 billions that was going to charity. Not the whole 4. And I'm sure a lot of that has to do with the MASSIVE taxes he would've had to pay for that one-time transaction otherwise. Also... what can one more billion buy ya that 3 billion won't?
B. What the hell does any of that have to do with a (3 year old) comment primarily concerning the intermediate nature of the man's weight? How does anyone manage to get so goddamn touchy about someone they don't know? Try talking to a professional. Maybe it's you who should be on something.
C. Fuck you too, sir. I'll talk shit about whomever I have a mind to at any given moment. And then I'll talk more shit. Your personal threshold for taking offense doesn't matter in the slightest, you self-important fuck-wit.
D. Have a nice day!
@@zardox78 So you think you have the right to insult the man's weight, fuck you.
@@odiadordeisrael Never actually insulted the man's weight, in case that escaped your attention. I just mentioned it. But, yes. I absolutely _do_ have the "right" to insult him, you, or anybody else. Just like you have the right to insult me over ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Everybody has that right, you ridiculous hypocritical virtue-signalling moron. Look it up, if you don't believe me. And a society without such a right would be a very horrifying place to live for everybody involved, even if you're too stupid to realize that. Fuck you too.
@@zardox78 Yes, you did. That's exactly what you said, fat corporate. Because of course he's as corporate as crap like Disney, right? And it's funny that you came up with all that bullshit because someone called you out on your "George bad" bullshit lmao
Imagine a video about editing with bad editing. What is good editing? I think good editing means "easy to follow" like a good comic book.
There are no rules
@@abadalfa yes there are.
Why do ppl hate this guy again?
Ungratefulness and entitlement
He is a sellout to Disney. He did not believe in himself and put faith on a mouse instead
@@crashpal utter bullshit. "He did not believe in himself" is bullshit.
Truth is Lucas stated publically that these films are very timeconsuming to make and that he enjoys being a dad spending time with his children. Therefore he gave Disney the opportunity to create more Star Wars for the fans, which would also provide himself with the financial resources to realize less profitable passion projects.
Also, people hated Lucas way before he sold his property so you cannot even make that argument
Because some Ot fans acted like children and painted George Lucas like a childhood abuser because they didn't like the Prequels
Not sure anyone hates him but I think he completely fucked up the movie saga by making the prequels as bad as they were.
thanx
Hmmmm… I’ve always thought ESB was edited by Paul Hirsch. How much did Lucas actually contribute to the edit?
there are many editors on every film. just like there are many directors. thousands and thousands of feet of film. often only a small number of people can be credited because of Union/Guild laws. George Lucas is an editor. he is the ultimate creator of this film. so I would guess he contributed a hell of a lot.
Smart guy back then
smart guy now
Jared Pahl For leting someone else take over? Yes
@Will DeMarco Wasted it.
Still is
Masterclass.
where's Marcia Lucas, dude? that aint right , boss
@@thelastjediknight1 sexist idiot
She didn’t edit TESB only a select few scenes in ANH, and ROTJ
Marcia fan boy
He doesn't sound like someone from the 70-80's from what you see in films and tv shows from the era and many actors from that era which i guess makes sense but it's very strange in my eyes.
What does he sound like?
@@ajs41 the way people talk generation after generation changes before people talked in a certain way than how people talk today
@@ajs41 it’s just a voice you’re thinking to much in to it
The editing is good for this video. Just saying. :D
777. like from me to this interview.
What NEW IDEAS have you got besides JAILING ME, GEORGE.
Flat bed editor they don't make em like that anymore
Imagine you had stopped there George... Imagine!
Then he would not have told the story he wanted to tell and would have luved with regret for life.
Puedo decir q en esa época Lucas era sumamente guapo o es muy raro?
Jjjj
PD solo miren 😍😍😍 0:28
Eh eh eh…wood.
Todays star wars filmmakers: „ and here is a strong wamen entering the scene and I am the first wamen cutting it.“
That's great, George, now tell everyone what happened when you tried to make your own cut of the film and showed it to Irvin Kershner, lol!
what are talking about?
@@ejn8982never mind him. Lucas Derangement Syndrome is as common as
HIV is in chimpanzees
Given Lucas was the Executive Producer and head of Lucas Film at the time Empire as was released was the movie Lucas wanted and got
its the other way around, Kershners original cut was awful and Lucas had to fix it with editing and reshoots requiring him to take out a second loan and nearly have to sell Star Wars..................so yeah
"Snow battle" lol
Whats funny about that?
Why pay for film school when you can watch Starwars making offs
I don't like how he misleadingly takes so much credit for editing it, when in fact Marcia Lucas was the editor of these three films
@@OrphanedZombie She was not credited, but she did edit "Empire."
You are wrong.
@@MrMarsFargo Yeah you're right. Marcia and George contributed to editing Empire. I do believe that Marcia contributed more. Based on your original comment, you probably think that George never had any talent and that he was a shitty writer/director from the very beginning. Yes, the original films were more of a collaborative effort. Yes, Marcia contributed to editing the films and gave some ideas (and she did an especially good job editing Star Wars (1977)). But if George was never a good filmmaker, the original films (especially the original Star Wars film) wouldn't have turned out so good. He wrote the stories for Empire and ROTJ. And Star Wars (1977) was still a well-written, well-directed film. He obviously deteriorated as a filmmaker after Return of the Jedi.
@@OrphanedZombie
She flat out rewrote his entire screenplay, and still has no writing credit.
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I also wasn't talking about THX-1138, or American Graffiti, I was talking about Star Wars. So I don't know where you got the notion I thought he was a "shitty director from the beginning," seeing as I wasn't talking about George, I was talking about Marcia.
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What I DO think is that very little of what made the original trilogy great originated from him, since most of that was either Marcia's draft of the screenplay or his cinematographer and actors going against basically all his ideas during the filming of "Episode IV."
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In terms of Episode V, he had no input into that film after the second draft. After that, it was all Irvin Kershner and Marcia Lucas (the earlier of which demanded total creative freedom in his contract, thus actively VETOING George's ideas).
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The one Lucas was most involved in was "Return of the Jedi," and even then most of his ideas were vetoed or replaced by producer Gary Kurtz, screenwriter Lawrence Kasdan, or Marcia Lucas's editorial refinement.
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@@MrMarsFargo Marcia Lucas did not rewrite George's screenplay of Star Wars (1977). She gave some ideas like killing off Ben Kenobi and having the Leia kiss Luke on the cheek. She is an editor, not a screenwriter. Of course she deserves credit for the editing and the ideas she gave. George Lucas wrote the screenplay - Gloria Katz and William Huyck were script doctors that added the humor to the final script. And that's just the writing. The original film was also well-directed. The documentary-style of the film was George's style of directing. Yes, the direction did contribute to how great the film turned out.
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In terms of Episode V, yes he wrote the second draft of the story. After that, Lawrence Kasdan wrote the subsequent drafts with input from Irvin Kershner until the final draft of the screenplay was made. In George's draft, George came up with the idea of Luke being trained by Yoda and Darth Vader being Luke's father.
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I don't think that Lucas was most involved in Return of the Jedi. He literally directed the original Star Wars film and did most of the writing.
@@MrMarsFargo it an idiot, George got most of the credit cause he wrote the story, edited and executive produced empire and Jedi. It’s his movie
How did this guy regress so much in the space of like less than 20 years. You can sense his passion and his technical genius in this interview, fast forward to the prequels and I think he just got complacent and lazy.
Quite far from reality frankly. George was at the top of his game when he did the prequels, each one of those films is like the original films on steroids . When George was talking about animatics here to plan out what would happen in the scene before they shot it and edited it, is a precursor to the same thing they used in the prequels for the same purpose .
@@mackmitchell94 How in anyways is this like what happened in the prequels ? Here they use animatics in a very clever way and use it to be an example after for both physical model stop motion and also blue screen inclusion in a very limited way. In the prequels CGI becomes the story. Lighting is off, the sets are flat and the camera has no point. There's also a very obvious realisation that nothing looks real as a result of this and when they do include on location places it looks out of place because we've just been watching cgi a few minutes ago. Technology simply wasn't advanced enough for Lucas to make all cgi sci-fi fantasy flicks in the late 90's early 00's
@@GreedosGun no, it was completely the opposite. Lucas used the CGI because it was the only way to tell that story the way it needed to be told . A good director uses whatever tools are at their disposal to tell the story they’re telling, practical vs CGI doesn’t matter . Cmon Revan, I expected better. You should know the prequels used much more practical effects than the originals anyways, the phantom menace used more than the entire original trilogy combined, and more than The Force Awakens even though they made a big deal about being a return to practical effects. Simply put, the prequels just had so many more effects shots than the originals. Again, essentially the original trilogy on steroids . They used the animatics in the prequels in the exact same way, the only difference is the animatics were much more advanced given how much time had passed, and how much technology improved, with George Lucas being largely responsible for that fact . Don’t be an ignorant old head who thinks technology should stay what it was in the 70s and 80s in all cases .
@@mackmitchell94 Exactly, thank you
@@mackmitchell94 I dony think they should stick to 70s tech, you're just strawmanning my position. I hear this dumb argument from prequel defenders all the time, so what if they used more practical affects than OT.
They were way longer films in total, with bigger budgets and war more SFX overall. The proportion of CGI to practical is undoubtedly skewed very heavily in favour of cgi. As you can see almost every scene has a blue screen in which makes things totally unnatural and hard to convey emotion through the dialogue which lucas always had trouble with. At times it looks fake to the extreme as is with phantom menace droid army or watto. When you're spending half your money and time just in the computer room yk your film is gonna bomb. There's unfortunately little interesting about the prequels which goes way beyond the cgi issue
Come on then, "George", let's see you editing the movie. All you're doing there is turning the film back and forth. Anyone can do that.
"It's all about the editing" says the man whos editing of the first movie was so bad that his wife had to re-edit it completely to make it work...
OddballEasyEight That's completely untrue, they had another editor which was editing it badly so he fired him and hired his wife who was a professional editor who worked with Martin Scorcese and worked closely in collaboration with her, editing it how he wanted it. George has many flaws but you're just hating without reason at this point.
Honestly, do you know what a rough cut it?
Have any of you seen how boring and uninteresting the raw footage of the original film was? Paul Hirsch (one of the editors) said there was no excitement in the footage, and had to manipulate it specifically to make it interesting.
Yes, we've all seen the outtakes featured in the Empire of Dreams. They're terribly dull. That's why they're outtakes. Every movie has them. Every director makes them. Judging a director by a rough cut of his movie doesn't make any sense.
I think I remember hearing a new hope was put together with virtually everything they had shot. no extra footage or scenes were left to use from the cutting room floor. which is another injoke with the sandpeople at the begining where they replay back and forth one raising his spear in the air. lol