I used the sizing chart provided on Patagonia's website (very slick new format!) and came in at XL. Couple this with the several other Patagonia jackets that I have reviewed over the years (all in XL). While I can fit in large, I prefer to have mobility over tightness. Measurements are 6'1" 200lb 45" chest and 32" waist. The fit on this is great to layer over a baselayer and even a light layer. Last night I had the Micro Puff on over a 150 weight wool t shirt and lightweight flannel. Elevation 11k, temps in 30s. The jacket did its job and kept me warm with no issues in mobility or heat loss. Legit.
Thanks for the follow up. I guess fit is personal and you can make it work for you, I know Patagonia's R1 hoody has bulked up recently and the fit has been changed, I was just worried this was a trend that will follow through the rest of their range. I'm looking at a good layer for some Arctic guiding work and will try this out.
Great question. The exact color was probably specific to the year this came out. I don’t want to tell you the wrong color. I am actually wearing it right now, camping at 10.5K in Colorado. I say, grab it and enjoy!
Great review, subbed! Im in Canada and it gets to -20 C (-4.0 °F) during the winter, how warm is the micro puff? Would it be suitable for those temperatures?
Thanks for translating the temp for us 'Muricans! The Micro Puff is brand new, so we haven't been able to get it out into any cold weather yet. We expect it to be about as warm as or a bit warmer than Patagonia's UL down hoody. Meaning, probably not warm enough on its own to go down to -20°C, but might work paired up with a heavy fleece underneath, depending on how you handle cold weather, personally.
Hi Sean , we have just about the same size and measures and we both have the ascensionist in large so why do you picked the xl on micro puff?? Can you test layering with these two items to help me picking a size on the micro puff ?thanks a lot and keep up the excellent work
Hey Carlos! Thanks for the question and kind words! I went with XL to play nicely with layering over other jackets. For example, I would use the micro puff over the ascension jacket when needing to warm up. If I was going for casual use, I probably would have gone with large in micro puff. Hope that helps! - Sean
@@carlosmonteiro5388 Thanks, buddy! I was thinking of how I would use the Micro Puff as a temporary warming puffy over the waterproof jacket when we are backcountry skiing and splitboarding. You are correct in the ideal situation would be to have the insulation under the waterproof jacket. That would be great for cold weather resort skiing and such. Take care!
Hello!! Great video and the comments are really helpful. Do you have a review video of this hoody on a woman ? I love this hoody however I'm not sure about the elastic hem... Also, could you recomend a water proof rain jacket?
We would love to get some of our female testers in one of these to review. Hopefully we can get that up soon. Lots of reat waterproof jackets to recomend. Will compile a little list soon. Thanks - Sean Sewell of Engearment
Average temp in NYC in January is 36F. The Micro Puff could work if you're a generally warm person and you're moving - walking from the subway, etc. If you're usually chilly and expect to be standing around outside, check out the Hyper Puff instead: goo.gl/A2cCBQ
Engearment thanks a lot. I think I'll go for the micro puff. Do you have any recommendations for a hoodie/sweater that I can use together with the Micro Puff, and also on its own when I'm heading to warmer places (Bogota, Quito etc)? Thanks in advance!
The regulator series is another alternative to the crosstrek series of fleece. The crosstrek is pretty technical looking while the R1 is a little more casual/professional looking while still being exceptionally technical. The R2 is very warm and a full zip and the R3 is a hoody and extremely warm. The R1 might be the way to go for a warmer place as the grid system breathes well and is thin in the places that aren't the insulation. I absolutely love my R1 as a mid layer under the nano-puffs (similar to micro puff). Your third mid-layer option would the nano-air line as they are very warm, breathable, stretchy, and mobile. Will be warmer than the R1, while weighing a similar weight. Patagonia has a lot of options...
As a native New Yorker, this is a wrong tool for the job. This is a very technical piece of kit. Riding the A train is not where the Micro Puff will do it's best work. Consider the Silent Down Jacket, or Hi Loft down jacket instead.
Would anyone know if this new jacket would be similar in warmth to a Patagonia Nano-Air Hoody?? If so, I would consider the micro hoody for every day use.
Two different jackets, really. Patagonia differentiates the Nano-Air series from the Micro series based largely upon breathability. Nano-Air is for active use where you sweat and need to move air into and out of the jacket while staying warm. Micro is windproof and doesn't breath much at all. The Micro Puff uses 65g insulation and the Nano-Air uses 60g. That, by itself, makes the Micro warmer. The Micro should also be warmer because it doesn't allow air to pass through. Is it good for everyday use? Depends on what you'll be using it for. It might make sense for you to look at the Nano Puff series instead of the Micro Puff. It's cheaper and uses a more durable fabric, so it'll survive everyday use better. You can find it here: goo.gl/vZxt2h. You can also use our Gear Search tool to track down a Nano Puff on sale: goo.gl/TCEbVQ (All of the links are affiliate links - we may earn a commission if you purchase through them, but it won't change your price paid.)
I liked this jacket when it released but when I finally got my hands on one I wasn't very excited anymore. It is sewn through, limiting its warmth potential, the baffle design isn't very good looking, and the elasticized hem is a big no for me. My dream garment would be an "ultra puff" or a "premium puff" as I call it... Essentially a nano puff hoody with 10-20g more insulation, Pertex Quantum GL, airy backer, and a draw cord hem. The airy backer of the nano puff series is so nice for added loft and the brick cells look fantastic no matter the setting. A draw cord hem is absolutely essential to accommodate the various mid layers I own. And yes I've applied to work for Gonia as I absolutely adore their company, but they aren't interested it would seem :/
Bummer the Micro Puff isn't right for you. But, that's ok! Everyone has different needs in a jacket. Maybe check out the RAB Nimbus? engearment.com/gear-search/?search=rab%20nimbus
Hey Alex! I would say it is as warm as the Nano Puff. So far it has been as warm as any down jacket of similar weight. Hope that help! Sean Sewell of Engearment
ive been wearing mine for a month now its not as warm in the arms compared to nano however I do like the fit and style it was shedding some insulation but minor and has subsided I wear it around Lake Tahoe cycling and hiking when the temp dip I pair with shell so in my opinion this is a great 3 season stand alone jacket
FWIW, the micro has 65g fill versus 60g in the nano. according to Patagonia, the primaloft in nanopuff has a warmth per weight factor of 8 whereas the plumaloft is a little over 11. if you do the math, theoretically, the micro puff should be 50% warmer than the nano. interesting someone said the arms weren't as warm. all the above assumes uniform distribution of insulating material through garment.
The whole 10 years to make this jacket is a load of bull. Pluma fill is just a marketing mumbo jumbo rename of polyester. It's proven that it's not as warm as down so at the end of the day other than the fact it's vegan, it's nothing different from primaloft or 3m thinsulate or any other synthetic insulator. I'm a fan of Patagonia because I support their activism. But to price this item at $300 is cut-throat. If you love to donate to environmental causes you're better off donating a third or even half of the cost of this jacket on your own and buy any other synthetic midlayer jacket for the other 2/3 or half. For example marmot sells synthetic insulators for a third of the price. Also if you think weight matters...this jacket achieves the light weight because it has less fill and thinner fabric...not because it's fill is high tech or innovative.
You're right that fit is important. We have some disagreement in the Engearment tent about how things should fit. Sean thinks the shoulders are the most important area and wears XL to fit his, even if it leaves room in the torso and waist areas. I (Dave) like things to be closer to my torso, even if it means that the shoulders are a bit tight. I believe, like you, that you don't want cold air sneaking up under the hem of your jacket. I also believe that situations are few and far between when you'll be doing something that requires both arms to be stretched forward at the same time. I accused Sean of walking around the woods like a zombie, yesterday, in reference to how he demonstrates jacket fit. He thinks I look like a sausage in some of the jackets I test. He may be right. Regardless, the size that fits your body and preferences is the one you should pick. I don't think Sean experienced the loss of warm air you're worried about when he was up at 11,000' last night, but he also layered under the Micro Puff. Patagonia has a pretty robust and helpful sizing app on their website. Find it under "Size & Fit" on the product page by clicking "What's my size?" Patagonia says Sean should be wearing a large. You and I both think he should be in a large. He likes wearing XL. Oh well!
The hood is terrible. First it zips through the collar so you have that flap hitting you in the face if you don't want to zip up all the way. 2nd, the hood doesn't cover the nose and mouth so you will need a scarf or buff. The best jackets have no zip through collar and a zip off hood that will go over the nose. Unfortunately, nobody makes jackets like that anymore. Just this garbage.
I used the sizing chart provided on Patagonia's website (very slick new format!) and came in at XL. Couple this with the several other Patagonia jackets that I have reviewed over the years (all in XL). While I can fit in large, I prefer to have mobility over tightness. Measurements are 6'1" 200lb 45" chest and 32" waist. The fit on this is great to layer over a baselayer and even a light layer. Last night I had the Micro Puff on over a 150 weight wool t shirt and lightweight flannel. Elevation 11k, temps in 30s. The jacket did its job and kept me warm with no issues in mobility or heat loss. Legit.
Thanks for the follow up. I guess fit is personal and you can make it work for you, I know Patagonia's R1 hoody has bulked up recently and the fit has been changed, I was just worried this was a trend that will follow through the rest of their range. I'm looking at a good layer for some Arctic guiding work and will try this out.
I'm hoping for a black Friday sale. I'm definitely buying one!
Great review, thank you! Especially helpful to know the tall boy capacity of the pockets 👌
Thanks Will! I am always a fan of beer, outside, camping and combining all 3 :) Take care!
What colourway is this called?
Please what is this exact color code called? Is it Superior Blue I’m seeing?
Great question. The exact color was probably specific to the year this came out. I don’t want to tell you the wrong color. I am actually wearing it right now, camping at 10.5K in Colorado. I say, grab it and enjoy!
Great review, subbed! Im in Canada and it gets to -20 C (-4.0 °F) during the winter, how warm is the micro puff? Would it be suitable for those temperatures?
Thanks for translating the temp for us 'Muricans! The Micro Puff is brand new, so we haven't been able to get it out into any cold weather yet. We expect it to be about as warm as or a bit warmer than Patagonia's UL down hoody. Meaning, probably not warm enough on its own to go down to -20°C, but might work paired up with a heavy fleece underneath, depending on how you handle cold weather, personally.
Ahh true say. Thinking using it under a torrentshell possibly - but only really under an active circumstance. Thanks for the reply!
I don't want to wait till spring for the non-hooded version. 😢
Sorry dude! Wish we could help, but Patagonia doesn't listen to us when we go all Veruca Salt on them. :(
Hi Sean , we have just about the same size and measures and we both have the ascensionist in large so why do you picked the xl on micro puff?? Can you test layering with these two items to help me picking a size on the micro puff ?thanks a lot and keep up the excellent work
Hey Carlos! Thanks for the question and kind words! I went with XL to play nicely with layering over other jackets. For example, I would use the micro puff over the ascension jacket when needing to warm up. If I was going for casual use, I probably would have gone with large in micro puff. Hope that helps! - Sean
What about the micro under the ascensionist ? Wouldn’t it make sense in rainy windy days ?
Ps: helpful tips and insight , as usual !! Cheers
@@carlosmonteiro5388 Thanks, buddy! I was thinking of how I would use the Micro Puff as a temporary warming puffy over the waterproof jacket when we are backcountry skiing and splitboarding. You are correct in the ideal situation would be to have the insulation under the waterproof jacket. That would be great for cold weather resort skiing and such. Take care!
What color is that?
Hello!! Great video and the comments are really helpful.
Do you have a review video of this hoody on a woman ? I love this hoody however I'm not sure about the elastic hem...
Also, could you recomend a water proof rain jacket?
We would love to get some of our female testers in one of these to review. Hopefully we can get that up soon. Lots of reat waterproof jackets to recomend. Will compile a little list soon. Thanks - Sean Sewell of Engearment
Is this suitable to wear in NYC in January, or would you recommend something else from Patagonia?
Average temp in NYC in January is 36F. The Micro Puff could work if you're a generally warm person and you're moving - walking from the subway, etc. If you're usually chilly and expect to be standing around outside, check out the Hyper Puff instead: goo.gl/A2cCBQ
Engearment thanks a lot. I think I'll go for the micro puff. Do you have any recommendations for a hoodie/sweater that I can use together with the Micro Puff, and also on its own when I'm heading to warmer places (Bogota, Quito etc)? Thanks in advance!
If you want to stick with Patagonia, check out the Crosstrek series (goo.gl/RcuKfU). Our review of the Hybrid should be up this week.
The regulator series is another alternative to the crosstrek series of fleece. The crosstrek is pretty technical looking while the R1 is a little more casual/professional looking while still being exceptionally technical. The R2 is very warm and a full zip and the R3 is a hoody and extremely warm. The R1 might be the way to go for a warmer place as the grid system breathes well and is thin in the places that aren't the insulation. I absolutely love my R1 as a mid layer under the nano-puffs (similar to micro puff). Your third mid-layer option would the nano-air line as they are very warm, breathable, stretchy, and mobile. Will be warmer than the R1, while weighing a similar weight. Patagonia has a lot of options...
As a native New Yorker, this is a wrong tool for the job. This is a very technical piece of kit. Riding the A train is not where the Micro Puff will do it's best work. Consider the Silent Down Jacket, or Hi Loft down jacket instead.
does the hyper puff compress like the nano puff?
The Hyper Puff does not compress as much as the Nano Puff. The Micro Puff compresses more than both of them.
Would anyone know if this new jacket would be similar in warmth to a Patagonia Nano-Air Hoody?? If so, I would consider the micro hoody for every day use.
Two different jackets, really. Patagonia differentiates the Nano-Air series from the Micro series based largely upon breathability. Nano-Air is for active use where you sweat and need to move air into and out of the jacket while staying warm. Micro is windproof and doesn't breath much at all.
The Micro Puff uses 65g insulation and the Nano-Air uses 60g. That, by itself, makes the Micro warmer. The Micro should also be warmer because it doesn't allow air to pass through.
Is it good for everyday use? Depends on what you'll be using it for. It might make sense for you to look at the Nano Puff series instead of the Micro Puff. It's cheaper and uses a more durable fabric, so it'll survive everyday use better. You can find it here: goo.gl/vZxt2h. You can also use our Gear Search tool to track down a Nano Puff on sale: goo.gl/TCEbVQ
(All of the links are affiliate links - we may earn a commission if you purchase through them, but it won't change your price paid.)
Engearment Thank you for the in-depth explanation and product links!
Space for 2 tall boys! SOLD!
Heck yes! Cheers! 🍻
I liked this jacket when it released but when I finally got my hands on one I wasn't very excited anymore. It is sewn through, limiting its warmth potential, the baffle design isn't very good looking, and the elasticized hem is a big no for me.
My dream garment would be an "ultra puff" or a "premium puff" as I call it... Essentially a nano puff hoody with 10-20g more insulation, Pertex Quantum GL, airy backer, and a draw cord hem. The airy backer of the nano puff series is so nice for added loft and the brick cells look fantastic no matter the setting. A draw cord hem is absolutely essential to accommodate the various mid layers I own.
And yes I've applied to work for Gonia as I absolutely adore their company, but they aren't interested it would seem :/
Bummer the Micro Puff isn't right for you. But, that's ok! Everyone has different needs in a jacket. Maybe check out the RAB Nimbus? engearment.com/gear-search/?search=rab%20nimbus
"very excited"
warmth and weight compared to nano puff? thoughts??
Hey Alex! I would say it is as warm as the Nano Puff. So far it has been as warm as any down jacket of similar weight. Hope that help! Sean Sewell of Engearment
huh, I heard someone who owns both say the micro puff is about twice as warm. what are your thoughts?
ive been wearing mine for a month now its not as warm in the arms compared to nano however I do like the fit and style it was shedding some insulation but minor and has subsided I wear it around Lake Tahoe cycling and hiking when the temp dip I pair with shell so in my opinion this is a great 3 season stand alone jacket
FWIW, the micro has 65g fill versus 60g in the nano. according to Patagonia, the primaloft in nanopuff has a warmth per weight factor of 8 whereas the plumaloft is a little over 11. if you do the math, theoretically, the micro puff should be 50% warmer than the nano. interesting someone said the arms weren't as warm. all the above assumes uniform distribution of insulating material through garment.
The whole 10 years to make this jacket is a load of bull. Pluma fill is just a marketing mumbo jumbo rename of polyester. It's proven that it's not as warm as down so at the end of the day other than the fact it's vegan, it's nothing different from primaloft or 3m thinsulate or any other synthetic insulator. I'm a fan of Patagonia because I support their activism. But to price this item at $300 is cut-throat. If you love to donate to environmental causes you're better off donating a third or even half of the cost of this jacket on your own and buy any other synthetic midlayer jacket for the other 2/3 or half. For example marmot sells synthetic insulators for a third of the price. Also if you think weight matters...this jacket achieves the light weight because it has less fill and thinner fabric...not because it's fill is high tech or innovative.
Its a 🏆 winner i got a nano air Jt its great .find jt for climbing.hiking
fit is terrible, all that warm air is gonna puff right out the bottom elasticated hem by the looks of it, making this jacket useless.
You're right that fit is important. We have some disagreement in the Engearment tent about how things should fit. Sean thinks the shoulders are the most important area and wears XL to fit his, even if it leaves room in the torso and waist areas. I (Dave) like things to be closer to my torso, even if it means that the shoulders are a bit tight. I believe, like you, that you don't want cold air sneaking up under the hem of your jacket. I also believe that situations are few and far between when you'll be doing something that requires both arms to be stretched forward at the same time. I accused Sean of walking around the woods like a zombie, yesterday, in reference to how he demonstrates jacket fit. He thinks I look like a sausage in some of the jackets I test. He may be right.
Regardless, the size that fits your body and preferences is the one you should pick. I don't think Sean experienced the loss of warm air you're worried about when he was up at 11,000' last night, but he also layered under the Micro Puff. Patagonia has a pretty robust and helpful sizing app on their website. Find it under "Size & Fit" on the product page by clicking "What's my size?" Patagonia says Sean should be wearing a large. You and I both think he should be in a large. He likes wearing XL. Oh well!
Thanks for the response, I've subscribed to the channel, keep up the good work.
Yeah guy, I'm sure you know more than the entire development team at Patagonia - I bet they overlooked that detail...fucking idiot.
Thanks for leaving our first profane RUclips comment, Sean! Let's keep it clean and happy.
Thanks for leaving the first passive-aggressive, sarcastic reply Engearment! Let's keep it straight-forward here from now on, thanks.
The hood is terrible.
First it zips through the collar so you have that flap hitting you in the face if you don't want to zip up all the way. 2nd, the hood doesn't cover the nose and mouth so you will need a scarf or buff.
The best jackets have no zip through collar and a zip off hood that will go over the nose. Unfortunately, nobody makes jackets like that anymore. Just this garbage.
Yes, the best have a "hood that goes over the nose."
Bring it a couple inches further down and start your own water boarding line.