Is The OSP Dice A Gimmick Or Not? Bait Wars!
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- The OSP dice is being talked about a lot but I have yet to see many people fishing successfully with it. So Hank and I had a little challenge!
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I was born and raised in Chicago, but after working 12 years in the financial Industry regulating the futures and options markets at the CME/CBOT I decided to pursue my passion fishing professional tournaments and left my full time corporate job. At that point, I moved to Junction City, WI with my wife Sara and two boys Hank and Duke. I've been fishing professionally since 2011 and full-time since 2015. I've qualified for seven MLF Championships and won over a half million in tournament winnings at the professional level.
Good job!! Go Hank!! You beat dad!! 25 bucks is ridiculous. Tackle warehouse should be ashamed. They really retail for 9.99 for 4 and even that’s expensive.
way to expensive IMO
I wouldn't be surprised if Crack was cheaper!
someone ask Hunter Biden if this Parmesan Cheese is worth smoking
They probably buy them for more than $10 a pack
Temu has a similar bait
for cheap
Loved that video! Your statement "I'm just wasting my time throwing this thing" had me in tears as it was very clear you were not into the dice. Love the family outings. Great stuff!
its terrible!
I made my own out of 6 inch Z man stick baits. I use the fattest part of the bait disgarding the rest and get three out of each stick bait. I chose the Z man because it’s elastic. Almost every time the bait goes up on your line and you don’t lose it when catching a fish. It’s easy to thread jig skirting through it. You have to add a small weight. I have used it one time to test and I caught 10 to 12 fish including a couple 3 to 4 pounders which is decent size for our area. I use them in a tournament today on a very pressured small lake and got second on that pond by .16 of a pound… 14:29 three or four of the fish that made it to scales came on the hairy rubber is what I call it. Lol. I think it’s just something they haven’t seen. It falls pretty slow. Almost every bite came on the initial fall.
thanks for sharing!
No joke, the OSP dice was the only thing that some highly pressured bass were willing to actually bite on at highly pressured ponds here in Cali. Everything else was ignored.
What part of Cali? the Tenderloin District?
fish in the lake I fished wanted nothing with it
I’ve absolutely been catching them on hairy dice a drop shot (but it’s super easy to make your own with a big sewing needle). Here’s a tip for smallmouth types: cut up a pack of Maxscent Jerk Shads. You get 3 dice per bait-so 30 dice per pack. Very economical!
id rather use a maxscentdice than these dice
@@MattStefanFishing what about a hairy cover scat? In scatological terms
@@secretbassrigs hahaha
Matt, Like what Hank said when you said do you want to quit with 4 minutes to go & he said "I want to fish till the end"!! A True Fisherman!!!Steve Rogers has a video out on this cube & has a DIY one made from a piece of stick bait & old skirts from either spinnerbaits, jigs, etc. I did make a few and had a few hits on it but didn't bring a fish in. Felt like they were hanging onto the skirted material. I'll give it another go. I used it as a wacky rig and no weight and it got down & I was on a river. Stay Safe & God Bless!!!
yes he is!
I love Hanks optimism. Well I could have another one on this cast. I just saw a video where a guy took a Senko, cut it small and put skirt material through it. If you did that you could throw it on the hover rig and save $25 😂
i guess so
That’s crazy, Matt! The only thing I may use the dice bait for, would be throw more scent on it and fish for catfish. Lol seriously I can’t imagine why any other fish would want to eat it. Thanks for sharing. Hope you guys had a great time at the music festival!
We did!
I certainly was curious about them until I saw the price tag. I made some of my own using bits of old cut up baits and jig strands, lol. Plenty of there stuff I could get and not be heartbroken over it it gets lost. Thanks for the video - I wondered how they would fair in the midwest in not so clear waters.
not so good imo
Great family video and Hank sure put it on ya with the Hover Rig, that dice thing had me laughing when you showed it… dont look like a fish catcher to me at all!!!
Glad you enjoyed it
I made my own as well like someone else here, mine is small like 1~1.5 cm. I cut off the head of my old swimbaits which are missing tails and such, threaded those rubber skirt materials and it works really well. I caught so many good size of panfishes and bass with them. Just like other comments - every bite came on the initial slow fall, or 1st a few twitches. :) I didn't know that the original ones were this big.
these are the ones I have
@@MattStefanFishing they( the ones you have) seem way bigger than current, actual osp dice....even the package you have is different.
I have tried to post to this video several times. I think it may be because I have tried to link to one of my social media accounts where I posted pictures and a full explanation of how I made my baits. I made my own version of this lure in an ultra lite size by cutting 3" stick baits into 1.75 inch sections and threading old rubber skirt pieces from some old spinner baits through the plastic. I did this mostly because I couldn't get bedding bluegill to hit anything. It worked very well for me. 2nd cast I was into fish and I caught the biggest bass I've ever hooked in this particular pond. 4.5 - 5 pounder. Of course it hit the one day this year I didn't bring a scale. It's been my highest producing bait in this pond for the past 2 weeks.
thanks for sharing
lol...why would anyone fish a cube. not surprised hank won. you guys are too cute. your a lucky man. awesome video as always.
Thanks 👍
I’m not much for finesse fishing but was interested in your take on the dice. I do a lot of tackle crafting and thought about making some. I’d be interested in seeing how a fish on a bed would react to that thing. Maybe next year.
its all yours!
Doesn't look like I'll be fishing with those anytime soon! Thanks for this video and giving ur honest opinion! And great job Hank!
I will never fish with these again!
@@MattStefanFishing but would you shake a leg and let one drop out on the floor? that sounds fun!
Hey Matt great job installing the competitive juice in lil' Hank! Just a matter of years before he be tearing up the tour 🤣
You got that right!
I made something similar with a small trd and some old skirt material also put skirt material through the back of senkos for a unique neko bait
thanks for sharing!
Awesome job Hank! Matt I’d have made one cast with that crazy contraption and that would be that 😂
thats how i felt
@@MattStefanFishing 😂
much love...ive seen them but thought that would never work ...thanks for the share new sub
thank you!
👋🏻 Hey Mrs. Stefan
Atta boy Hank! 👍🏻👍🏻
Maybe you could’ve tried a 1/8oz weighted wacky hook to get down in down into the bottom of that ditch you were fishing Matt 🤷🏻♂️
it was only a few feet deep. I could see my bait roll over the lip and fall into the 3 foot ditch.
I make these also. 3/4" square. I'm also working on a smaller cube for crappie. The problem with the OSP dice is that they don't put enough skirting in the cube. When you put more skirting in the cube, you can almost cut a profile from the skirts. Or, you can make a puff cube. The price they charge for these things is ridiculous. I have several cube molds. 1 cup of plastic to 1/4 salt. I take my time and thread the jig skirting thru the cube. They do work, but there is a time and place.
Thanks for sharing!
late to commenting-
osp, geecrack, etc are japanese lures meant for the incredibly pressured waters in the japanese bass scene
similar case here in southern California where the bass are incredibly pressured.
won't work well in a normal environment lmao
thanks for sharing
Its nice to watch Hank Kick your ass. Thanks Matt GREAT one.
he wont shut up about it either haha
Nice video !!!!. Loves Hank attitude, hell be an excellent Pro angler.
No doubt!
10:59 Hank talking some smack!! HAHAHAHA
hahaha
I have had some awesome results with the dice
Glad to hear it
Great job Hank! I would like to see a senko vs cover scat contest
that would be fun!
I caught a largemouth yesterday at Sante Fe Dam, CA drop shotting a dice jig…made my day!
Nice
I keep hearing the term... "the curiosity bite..."😂
And I hear the weird and brite colors do the best...
who knows!
Thanks Guys for the OSP vs. Hoover Rig ✔video ! 🎇🎇
Our pleasure!
haha Hank is tearing em up.. Good going Hank. We can see who the real fisherman is in that boat. Matt are you sure that's not just a Kraft Caramel?
its a piece of garbage IMO
Way to go hank! I think halfway through I would have switched over to the drop shot or at least something weighted just to try my best to catch something. And yea for that price I don't think so
we were only fishing two feet of water
@MattStefanFishing yeah I guess at one point you did say you were in about a foot of water, so that makes sense. I guess that's why I shouldn't watch videos before I wake up completely LOL
I feel the same about the hover rig. Zero fish. Some follows on AT2 but I've wasted atleast 20 hrs with it.
Sorry to hear that
Maybe straight fluoro is better. Tried a few plastics too, juggle minnow, flukes. Dunno. But the Neko rig for suspending bass works!
Great video, I want to see a poop bait comparison when Berkley comes out with their copy of the cover scat
I doubt they will make a cover scat
There's got to be a way to DIY this bait. Dollar Tree here I come!!!
oh yeah!
Fun video. Like your comments on the lure.
Thanks 👍
Hank is quite a fisherman!
Yup. That kid can set a hook
hes good,but i should have caught something
I don't feel too bad...I bought the Raid version on sale at TW for $9.64. I don't know what I was thinking.
Give it a try
Happy 4th to u and the family Matt
Happy 4h of july!
@@MattStefanFishing thanks bro
I wish I could get my youngest son as interested in fishing as hank seems! He's only 4 so hopefully in a yr or 2 he will be. Right now he last about 2-3 cast and he's over it and ready to jump in the lake. 😂😂.
hank is a fishing nut...duke not so much
he just needs indoctrination into hairy dice
Check out Steve Rogers Outdoors. He has a great vid on making your own version of these dice. But instead of a cube ,he cuts a short piece of a senko & threads skirt material through it. Looks better than a dice in my opinion & way way way cheaper! More natural being a round body instead of a cube. I made a few with different sized worms including sencos, trick worms for different sizes. I'm not willing to pay that much for a dice bait exspecialy when you can make something that looks more natural. I'm sure they catch fish. So do a lot of baits.. Also he does ton of underwater footage that's excellent in showing bass relationship to habitat!!!
Steve Rogers Outdoors is the most underrated channel on bass fishing.
@@deltatrippers he's one my favorites
thanks for sharing!
This video just saved alot of people $. I'm sure someone just canceled there back order on TW
im not happy with that bait at all
Hook Up Tackle puts their reputation on it. Fish it like a Senko Matt. Don't shake it
ITS GARBAGE! Ill challenge anyone i can beat them with any other lure for 10K
@@MattStefanFishing you're on! make it 20k! I'll let Ben know. I get 10%
It looks like a lure an 8 year old kid would invent. Hook up Tackle did a vid on it and he caught smallmouth on it. I’d think it would be best in a grassy farm pond because it’s more of a buggy environment than a lake is. That thing resembles a bug to me more than anything else.
smallmouth on the wisconsin river ignored it
@@MattStefanFishing only because it was fake feculent vomit
@@MattStefanFishing maybe you put the hook on the wrong side and it’s landing on Snake Eyes every time 🎲 🎲
Litter Hank is cracking me up, with I had one on, lol😂
haha
I seen a video of a Japanese angler cutting up a bag of deps bull flats and making these an by cutting squares and pulling jig strands through the square... The density and makeup of those baits sink like a rock. Thought it was a waste of a bag of Deps, they made a bunch tho!
interesting
Probably better throwing a chess piece with a hook at the end LOL. Congratulations to Hank
yep!
Fun fact: The only cube found in nature is wombat poop. Bass do not eat wombat poop.
interesting
there are NO wombats in the U.S....only in a few zoos
Put a Tush with a switch blade on it. (Sarcasm)
haha
Hank steals the show!
hank the hammer!
Light lines. Like 6 flouro. You would be surprised
Thanks for watching
Like they say a lure that will sell doesn’t necessarily catch fish just fishermen. Thanks Matt I will not be shooting craps while fishing.
agreed
Try the Raid 2 Way. Has the same little tentacles but you rig it wacky.
thanks for sharing
Great family fun! Great vid!
Thanks so much!
Lol. That was fun. Happy 4th to you and family. 🎣
you bet
That dang dice works about like them 4 packs of Yamamoto tama2nookies I bought. The last laugh is on me. 😳😳🙄😂😂🤣🤣👍
ill pass on the dice
FYI, they're for fishing
@@secretbassrigs 😂😂👍
@@haroldrogers6566 👍
Heavy salt version is what taku uses, the no salt one is probably just for dropshot
ill pass on both
@@MattStefanFishing you can get different sizes direct from japan. they make up to 25mm. I can cast them a mile but they still sink very very slow. might try a nail weight in there next time i use it
Would the dice work on a drop shot? Or no
It's a dropshot bait. He doesn't know how to use it.
@@youtubzkoz exactly what i thought when he said he didnt know how its rigged , i thought looks like a dropshot type of lure
Taken from takle warehouse website "Built with a non-salt construction that allows it to fall slowly through the water column, the Saikoro "Dice" Rubber Soft Bait is ideal for targeting shallow bed fish with weightless rigging but is also highly effective when rigged on a Carolina rig or drop shot. For the best results, rig the OSP Saikoro "Dice" Rubber Non-Salt Soft Bait on a small drop shot or wacky hook with no sinker, let it fall into the bass’s line of sight, and when you have their attention twitch the lure to get them to react!" Im pretty sure i fished it as a weightless rigging. Ill challenge anyone to a $10K fish off against the dice!
You need two on your line and roll snake eyes. Hey, I will stick with the hover rig, and you can have the dice. Have fun and enjoy your 4th with the family. Roland might have some helicopter lures left over. 😂
haha
Good to know! Happy 4th July to you and your family!
Same to you!
Thanks for rolling the dice on a new lures so we don't have to hover rig is still King of the Hill
You got that right!
Ok this is one lure i won't be spending money on. Thanks Matt.
thanks!
saving money on not buying hairy dice or Bud Light. lets go party with Hunter Biden! and hang out with Fang Fang
Have a great holiday 😊
you too!
Maybe it only works on bass with a gambling problem.
i should try it on lake mead in vegas!
Man, the math skills from that business background are impressive. I would have been using fingers and toes for that kind of fancy cipherin'. But dice wins because they got your $25 bucks.
i cant believe people are paying 25 bucks for this...
I love how your young sons know exactly what bait they want to use. But I don't think I could bring myself to throw those dice lures. Too expensive and too silly. I don't think running out should make you too sad.
I'm impressed with Hank's skills, he's a natural. He wanted to fish the last 4 minutes to try rubbing it in and catching another 😂.
Hank new he would bea me when i showed him the dice
@@MattStefanFishing I knew when I saw the dice too
OK, one down and another thousand to go!
this was terrible
Next challenge should be the cube vs Duke's fruit rollup.
the fruit rollup would win!
hairy fruit roll ups are free too! all over the back seat of the car.
All the best videos I have seen of this bait, it was rigged on a drop shot.
ok
Sorry maybe I’m wrong but that dice looks almost twice the size of the Osp dice I have, and your package looked different and I didn’t see OSP anywhere, might want to check with your buddy but think you may have a knock off
thanks for sharing
I almost ordered some, glad I didn't!
you bet!
Happy Independence Day Matt.
you too!
No matter what I would not pay that price for something like that. the ones I did see that worked were pink and the guys were fishing them somewhere on the Great Lakes and Clear water shallow.
interesting
$25+ at TW?! Insane. Hookup Tackle I think has em for $16 when they are in stock. Which is never.
i wouldnt pay $5 per pack for them
It is supposed to be 10 bucks in Japan. It is as cheap as the wal mart brand this guy is selling
Those dice are twice the size maybe bigger than the ones I get from The Hook Up tackle and those you have are 10 bucks more. They look silly but smash smallmouth and trout.
smaller would be better
I think it's a reaction bait mostly. Just weren't over any fish?
I’ll pass
That's insane cost for baits! Watch his vid & makes your crown. Im sure your boys would enjoy making them also. Save you some coin!!!
my mom always said , "maybe you buy fish instead, save money."
@@secretbassrigs way more fun to catch them!
@@maxcole3930 yup. keeps me out of trouble too. and it don't eat fish that often anyway. C+R always
thanks for sharing
The import fees make it not worth trying for Americans, imo.. I bet in Japan they're much cheaper- all JDM tackle is marked up a ton in the US domestic market.
I'd throw it on a tungsten Ned head if I got em free
It's a dropshot bait lol
dont waste your money!
Yes
they stink!
Ive been putting strands like that on flies and poppers for 30 years. Don't think I would ever throw something like that as a sinking presentation tho. Not sure why its recommended like that without a lot of current.
no clue
It’s a weird bait. I guess the concept is a small profile that puts off vibrations of a bigger bait, but until I start seeing senko type results i don’t think it’d be worth it.
Thanks for watching!
Whoever made those "dice" really rolled the dice to see if fishermen would bite. I guess sadly, some did.
haha
lets go roll some dice just been funny
haha
What spinning rod is that? Does MHX have a 7 3 ish spinning rod you like?
yes the NSJ-871 and NSJ-872
That was awesome I was laughing my butt off, go hank kick his ars
he beat me bad
Go Hank!!
haha
I've already saved money cause I never bit. A chunk of worm, a lrg needle and skirt material is way far cheeper. A hand tied bug is better in my book.
thanks for sharing
Wounder if it would work on a drop shot?
Give it a try
@@MattStefanFishing I just got something similar in the mail from temu. White cube with black and white skirt.
We want to come up for live bands and food on the river. 🙋🏼♀️. Tell your buddy to quit sending you crap baits 😂
Come on up! July is booked but august is OPEN!!!!
way to go hank
he crushed me
This is a family channel, but there’s so many jokes to make about this thing.😂
hahaha
Thanks for your serious scientific experimentation. 😂. Seriously tho ... you’re making awesome memories with your son.
thanks!!
They charge $25 because it's a one time sale !
haha
I think those are knock-offs. The OSP package looks nothing like that and the dice are smaller with longer hairs.
these were from the bassmaster classic
ill go ahead and say it
the lure i throw has to somewhat at least catch me too. I'd rather catch 1 fish on a swim jig than 10 on that dice
im not using the dice again
I think the concept is cool but the price is abismal. Also why not a natural bait presentation like a small craw or something that sinks slowly on a dropshot/wacky hook!
thanks for sharing!
Throwing craps on the front deck. Seems the only option.
that would have been more fun!
What spinning reels do you prefer
i like the abu garcia spinning reels, but there ar lots of good ones out there
I laughed when I saw that bait, then saw the price. Sucker born every minute.
its a straight joke IMO
That has to be the dumbest looking bait I've ever seen and I would never use it and I have caught tons of fish on the hover rig using multiple different baits. Lately ive been using the new tush swimbait hooks and absolutely smashing them here on tablerock as well. Ill take core takle over most anything else on the market right now. Thats how good its been for me! 25$ a pack is the craziest part about that stupid dice!
it is!