My maternal grandfather owned a soft drink franchise in Southwest Utah. Winter days were in the 40s, nights in the 20s. He bought a pair of International 6.something Powerstroke diesels around 1969. As an emplo of the family business, I became very familiar with with the smell of starting fluid and cold diesel smoke. Always br back memories.
He didn't buy a powerstroke in 1969. Powerstroke's didn't exist until the late 90's when International was making engines for Ford. Powerstoke is just fords brand of diesel and at the time was made by International (Until 2008).
That bus is a magician! It made Miss Budweiser disappear!!! Well, at least for a few minutes, even if just smoke and mirrors, well maybe just smoke!! 😂
For 5 years i was rebuilding Detroit 6v92 engines equipped with electronic fuel system for a small company of used buses, this sound reminds me some memories
This video is the clear proof that we have been too concerned about diesel exhaust while it hardly pollutes at all. Only when starting up does a tiny, tiny bit of poison come out of the exhaust. After that it is clean and smells terribly nice. And it is the most delicious warmth you can feel. So stand as close and as long as possible to the end of the exhaust and let the tiny bit of smoke soak into your clothes, wonderful! This engine can start up in my shed, the tiny bit of smoke is really nothing. Really a shame that so little smoke comes out, should have been much, much more😭
We had a few '60s era GMC City Slickers with Detroit Diesels at University Transit Service at the University of Virginia in the 1980s. I was a student driver while I was an undergrad. All the buses did and cold starts during the winter were dramatic. They ran rough and belched plumes of smoke for blocks for a good hour.
Very nice! A good idea installing an electric heater to the coolant system that works on 110v. Plug in an hour earlier and then you'll have a smooth start. And it's better for the engine.
Looking forward to future vids on the installation of the auto and other resto tasks. She's sure been through an interesting life, but you owning her now is definately meant to be! 🚍
I learned a long time ago diesel engines need to crank enthusiastically or they'll be hard to start. Our 471 on a Frick sawmill cranks/starts a lot faster! Thanks for sharing. PS: my 7.3 IDI cranks very fast NOW that I put a gear drive nipon denso or something starter on it!
I had a 1980 International Scout II with factory installed SD33T turbocharged engine. It would smoke a lot in cold weather when starting. I always let it warm up, but it would have a miss until the engine warmed up.. It had a prechamber with glow plugs. So it was not direct injection. It had Kiki Bosh injection pump and injector. Top speed was 83MPH. It averaged 17-23 MPG. I had 38 gallon fuel tank. I could drive from Muskegon Mich to Iowa without filling up.
Seen one do that long time ago in California and people ran up to the driver and yelled out your bus is on fire. He just drove on and let em eat his dust. Once the combustion chambers get happy the smoke tends to reside.
Once you get them addicted to ether there is no going back. I had a 69 autocar tri axel dump truck with a 6-71. The guys in the shop called them converters, They converted diesel fuel to noise. The blower on mine had a pipe plug on it, so I welded a T handle on it so I gave her a little taste on cold days and it lit right up which was way faster than using the air cleaner. Since it was used every day and the batteries were good it started up fairly easily. It did not smoke that much but it did take a while for the idle to even out, as it surged a lot when cold. Like it had a cam in it. The company had a crap ton of Euclids, so there was just about every kind of detroit made in their fleet.
LOL, Scott I'm sorry for laughing, but U coughing brought back so many good memories for me, LUV them old Detroits, the smell, the sound, the dripping oil, So many good memories. Thank You.
good video ,had an old gray marine 671 tiered would smoke just as much cold,,,,,one trick would be to roll it over govener closed then gradually let it go full fuel then would start !!!!
Mid 70s. LCM with 4 6-71s. Two electric start, two hydraulic start. We'd hand pump up the hydraulics, put a diesel soaked rag on a long screwdriver, light it on fire, and let the Jimmy suck in the flames. It would fire right up. Then let in run to pump up the hydraulics, start the second one, and let both of those charge the old weak batteries enough to crank the other two. Usually took an hour to get all four up and ready to go. Thanks for your videos.
I'm guessing that if you and Johanthan have time to play with COE tractors, Firetrucks, Bulldozers and driveways you are not covered up with customers busses. A sign of the season no doubt. A wise bird would book now with you to prepare in advance for spring and summer traveling.
I agree a complete rebuild is needed, the exhaust is also a concern, but if anyone can resurrect it Bus Grease Monkey, and the owner of the bus will make it happen.
Back in the early 1980s I worked for the Post office in the UK and the company had Ford Transits with the york diesel engine and once they got used to ether to start them they were addicted to it like a dodgy drug addiction
Cranking speed is crucial to compression ignition engines. When you use starting fluid, you should be able to hear the engine cranking speed start to pick up as you spray it. Being careful to only spray while it is cranking, you can spray a lot more on an older worn 2 stroke diesel because it has the supercharger and a long length of induction system that is all full of air to dilute the starting fluid into. Anyway, when you crank and spray you should hear the cranking speed pickup. As it speeds up there is less power required of the starter, so once you get it up to a fairly high cranking speed keep spraying and cranking. Soon you will hear it start to knock. It is normal to follow the engine speed with the starter for much longer periods on a cold start Diesel, especially a 2 stroke like an old Detroit. The starter is not doing anywhere as much work once the engine begins to respond to the starting fluid, so it doesn't hurt the starter to keep cranking. If you ever get the chance, try to put yourself in a position where you can hear a 2 stroke go by followed by a 4 stroke. The 4 stroke sounds like a helicopter, the 2 stroke just hums. The power is the same way too.
Lol fired mine yesterday at 19. Almost no smoke. But it did take a few tries which is unusual for my bus. I suspect the small injectors help with less smoke.
Wow that's what I call a great cold start especially when sitting for a couple months. I like when they smoke like that. Question though is that unburned fuel causing it to smoke like that or is it burning engine oil. Just curious 🤔
Hello, nice video thanks. This bus still works good and it seems to be able for some tripps, too. Just a question: Is it from the 60ies or 70ies. Thank you, best regards from Santa Catarina State, Southern Brazil.
Scott, what jump pack would you recommend to keep as a back up for a 4106 8V71T during winter months up in the mountains? I use crossfeed to connect my house batteries and start batteries. They both are deep cycle batteries but the house batteries are 6 golf cart 6v batteries connected in series and parallel to output 12v while my start batteries are 2 12v marine start batteries each having 1000cca. I also use ether for cold starts.
Any diesel experts…can someone explain to me why they belch out all that white smoke as soon as the the starter starts cranking, and the cylinders haven’t started firing yet? There’s no combustion going on to produce smoke, but it still smokes as soon as you crank it.
@@BusGreaseMonkey Just like a super stock diesel pulling tractor. They lower the compression so they can get more boost. They will not start with 3 or more cans of ether.
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This video was nothing but starting an old bus !!!
Music to my ears 😊😊
Too awesome I love them old Detroits 😊😊😊
Those old 71 and 92 DETROIT engines had a sound all of there own. Glad you got that old gem started.
*their.
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Hi Scott ,that.s what I called a mosquitos killers keep the good work from Richard.
I wish I could be in your line of work and have your skills….seeing these old girls come back to life is awesome!
Looks like my old 1981 Oldsmobile diesel station wagon on a normal day. LOL
That's why Tennessee has the smokey mountains 🏔️🏔️
My maternal grandfather owned a soft drink franchise in Southwest Utah. Winter days were in the 40s, nights in the 20s. He bought a pair of International 6.something Powerstroke diesels around 1969. As an emplo of the family business, I became very familiar with with the smell of starting fluid and cold diesel smoke. Always br back memories.
He didn't buy a powerstroke in 1969. Powerstroke's didn't exist until the late 90's when International was making engines for Ford. Powerstoke is just fords brand of diesel and at the time was made by International (Until 2008).
@@TechOut. Actually, started in the 94.5 F250 and F350 and ended with the 2010 Truck
Fergieman
Oh yeah baby come on start up beautiful. Love all that diesel smoke and I love the cranking.
good bus to use to get rid of mosquitos :)
Awesome smoke screens! Love it!
That was an epic delivery. S word, fires up right after.
The old girl has apparently run out of DEF fluid!😂.
Awesome machine 👍
That bus is a magician! It made Miss Budweiser disappear!!! Well, at least for a few minutes, even if just smoke and mirrors, well maybe just smoke!! 😂
Yes it disappeared
Love how you change up the music Video pics! Well done❤
For 5 years i was rebuilding Detroit 6v92 engines equipped with electronic fuel system for a small company of used buses, this sound reminds me some memories
Love the bullet clearance lights on the back!
I didn't love the non-power steering on these really old units.
This video is the clear proof that we have been too concerned about diesel exhaust while it hardly pollutes at all. Only when starting up does a tiny, tiny bit of poison come out of the exhaust. After that it is clean and smells terribly nice. And it is the most delicious warmth you can feel. So stand as close and as long as possible to the end of the exhaust and let the tiny bit of smoke soak into your clothes, wonderful! This engine can start up in my shed, the tiny bit of smoke is really nothing. Really a shame that so little smoke comes out, should have been much, much more😭
What a beautiful old bus
We had a few '60s era GMC City Slickers with Detroit Diesels at University Transit Service at the University of Virginia in the 1980s. I was a student driver while I was an undergrad. All the buses did and cold starts during the winter were dramatic. They ran rough and belched plumes of smoke for blocks for a good hour.
Impressive. Being in south Louisiana my 4104 doesn’t have to deal with many cold starts, thank goodness.
Very nice! A good idea installing an electric heater to the coolant system that works on 110v. Plug in an hour earlier and then you'll have a smooth start. And it's better for the engine.
Very happy to see the Scenicruiser - please, oh please keep that one (S/cr) in your collection - love it! xo
I got an automatic transmission waiting to go in it.
Looking forward to future vids on the installation of the auto and other resto tasks. She's sure been through an interesting life, but you owning her now is definately meant to be! 🚍
I learned a long time ago diesel engines need to crank enthusiastically or they'll be hard to start. Our 471 on a Frick sawmill cranks/starts a lot faster! Thanks for sharing. PS: my 7.3 IDI cranks very fast NOW that I put a gear drive nipon denso or something starter on it!
When it crank it sounds like one cylinder has a lower compression than the rest ( that seem they are weak too). Lovable bus to be saved 👍
It’s a tired and worn out old dog.
I had a 1980 International Scout II with factory installed SD33T turbocharged engine. It would smoke a lot in cold weather when starting. I always let it warm up, but it would have a miss until the engine warmed up.. It had a prechamber with glow plugs. So it was not direct injection. It had Kiki Bosh injection pump and injector. Top speed was 83MPH. It averaged 17-23 MPG. I had 38 gallon fuel tank. I could drive from Muskegon Mich to Iowa without filling up.
Seen one do that long time ago in California and people ran up to the driver and yelled out your bus is on fire. He just drove on and let em eat his dust. Once the combustion chambers get happy the smoke tends to reside.
That theme is great !!
Once you get them addicted to ether there is no going back. I had a 69 autocar tri axel dump truck with a 6-71.
The guys in the shop called them converters, They converted diesel fuel to noise.
The blower on mine had a pipe plug on it, so I welded a T handle on it so I gave her a little taste on cold days and it lit right up which was way faster than using the air cleaner. Since it was used every day and the batteries were good it started up fairly easily. It did not smoke that much but it did take a while for the idle to even out, as it surged a lot when cold.
Like it had a cam in it.
The company had a crap ton of Euclids, so there was just about every kind of detroit made in their fleet.
Is the ether the cause or the symptom of an engine that's getting tired, losing compression, and with worn injectors? We may never know...
LOL, Scott I'm sorry for laughing, but U coughing brought back so many good memories for me, LUV them old Detroits, the smell, the sound, the dripping oil, So many good memories. Thank You.
That one got me when the wind shifted
Smokes like our old Ford R series coaches her in the uk !
Love the particulates everywhere Greta would be choking 😅😅.
Excellent job
If I didn't know that was a diesel, I would have sworn it backfired. Very sweet old bus in need of love.
I think some unburned fuel popped off ;)
@@BusGreaseMonkey I've seen that before. Fire out the pipe.
good video ,had an old gray marine 671 tiered would smoke just as much cold,,,,,one trick would be to roll it over govener closed then gradually let it go full fuel then would start !!!!
It's cloudy on Detroit Mountain this morning!
That smoke show was more than in the ending!!
its also congesting oil bypass from the rings along with unburn fuel smoke
No mosquitoes after that start. It does have a cool sound.
This is what our band bus was like every morning. Smoke all over the place. It was this engine too.
OK, raise your hand if you were sympathy coughing at home ✋
I can smell it all the way over here.
You just have too much fun! This coming from a life long mechanic turned A&P
keep that one by the shop to clear out the skeeters in the summer....
That’s what buses sounded like when I was a kid.
Mid 70s. LCM with 4 6-71s. Two electric start, two hydraulic start. We'd hand pump up the hydraulics, put a diesel soaked rag on a long screwdriver, light it on fire, and let the Jimmy suck in the flames. It would fire right up. Then let in run to pump up the hydraulics, start the second one, and let both of those charge the old weak batteries enough to crank the other two. Usually took an hour to get all four up and ready to go. Thanks for your videos.
Scott you should get an SCBA pack for your fire engine, and for cold starting this old detroit 😂
You KNOW its real smoky when the Bus Grease Monkey is hacking and coughing! 😆
2 stroke Detroit Diesel engines are best friends with the ether bunny.
Not all but this one sure is.
Parabéns. Mauro
Smoke follows beauty my friend 😂
Politicians in comiefornia could feel the disturbance in The Force.
I guess you could say that old bus is a bit... Cranky. 😎
Thanks for the video.
it was just a cold natured Detroit that hasn't run in a while... She cleared up once it ran for a while and warmed up. and a tad over fueled ... 😎✌
I'm guessing that if you and Johanthan have time to play with COE tractors, Firetrucks, Bulldozers and driveways you are not covered up with customers busses. A sign of the season no doubt. A wise bird would book now with you to prepare in advance for spring and summer traveling.
Most of that playtime was weekends. Two buses in the shop and two waiting to get in.
No mosquitos with that one!
7:10 - 7:25 is a Detroit lovers dream!!
If you can get the bus grease monkey coughing that is an accomplishment lol
This is what the old timers called an "ether baby" lol
I agree a complete rebuild is needed, the exhaust is also a concern, but if anyone can resurrect it Bus Grease Monkey, and the owner of the bus will make it happen.
4:06 I was expecting the theme song to come on right about here. 🚬🚬🚬
"LOOKIT THE CHEEEECH!!!" ~in Frostbackistani accent
You certainly wouldn’t sneak out of the camp grounds unnoticed.
Poor thing smokes as much as I do 😂 and like me says "I'm old, leave me alone!"
О, видео с запахом! Отличный получился запуск двигателя! Классное видео, Мне очень понравилось! Круто Круто!!!🔥🔥🔥
Back in the early 1980s I worked for the Post office in the UK and the company had Ford Transits with the york diesel engine and once they got used to ether to start them they were addicted to it like a dodgy drug addiction
l think it is probably well known that, in Australia, starting fluid is called 'Start, ya bastard'!! 3:01
New music video material!😂
.........G'day,
1 can of ether per day😂😂
Imagine the good old days when the air was polluted by these things. Oooof.
I'm kinda like that myself on some mornings!
cool keep them coming
BGM: "Rev it up!"
(Revs bus up)
BGM: "cough cough cough..."
Man my neighbors would be pissed if i started that bus every morning and do i care.....nope😊
That was sweet!!
Cranking speed is crucial to compression ignition engines. When you use starting fluid, you should be able to hear the engine cranking speed start to pick up as you spray it. Being careful to only spray while it is cranking, you can spray a lot more on an older worn 2 stroke diesel because it has the supercharger and a long length of induction system that is all full of air to dilute the starting fluid into. Anyway, when you crank and spray you should hear the cranking speed pickup. As it speeds up there is less power required of the starter, so once you get it up to a fairly high cranking speed keep spraying and cranking. Soon you will hear it start to knock. It is normal to follow the engine speed with the starter for much longer periods on a cold start Diesel, especially a 2 stroke like an old Detroit. The starter is not doing anywhere as much work once the engine begins to respond to the starting fluid, so it doesn't hurt the starter to keep cranking. If you ever get the chance, try to put yourself in a position where you can hear a 2 stroke go by followed by a 4 stroke. The 4 stroke sounds like a helicopter, the 2 stroke just hums. The power is the same way too.
Actually it's a scavenging blower and not a supercharger. A two stoke diesel will not run without it.
I wish i could smell the smoke
Lol fired mine yesterday at 19. Almost no smoke. But it did take a few tries which is unusual for my bus. I suspect the small injectors help with less smoke.
But then you lose power.
@strobx1 yea. And at first I was gonna change it. But then I realized I get 10 mpg! So I left it alone!
Would a hair dryer, or paint stripper heat gun be enough to start a cranky diesel without using tractor-crack-in-a-can ?
Woo baby hold your breath
What is that clock looking pedestal thing on the dash? I remember old school busses in the 90s having them
Wow that's what I call a great cold start especially when sitting for a couple months. I like when they smoke like that. Question though is that unburned fuel causing it to smoke like that or is it burning engine oil. Just curious 🤔
There goes my smoke detector
Its burning lots of oil, engine rebuild for sure.
Some buses had a time clock to clock in and out
use a 1000 watt hot plate to warm up the oil pan ,then it will spin over like a summer day
wow she is cold blooded how long has she been sitting sounds good though
Hello, nice video thanks. This bus still works good and it seems to be able for some tripps, too. Just a question: Is it from the 60ies or 70ies. Thank you, best regards from Santa Catarina State, Southern Brazil.
Early 50’s
@BusGreaseMonkey Thank you...
I could almsot smell the video
that looks like it could do with some piston rehabilitation.........
Oh Gretta don't look.
Is mosquito fogging really needed in December? 😮
Craiglist ad: slight haze on cold start
Scott, what jump pack would you recommend to keep as a back up for a 4106 8V71T during winter months up in the mountains? I use crossfeed to connect my house batteries and start batteries. They both are deep cycle batteries but the house batteries are 6 golf cart 6v batteries connected in series and parallel to output 12v while my start batteries are 2 12v marine start batteries each having 1000cca. I also use ether for cold starts.
Why does that flashing red light on the dash look like it's superimposed onto the video?
Any diesel experts…can someone explain to me why they belch out all that white smoke as soon as the the starter starts cranking, and the cylinders haven’t started firing yet? There’s no combustion going on to produce smoke, but it still smokes as soon as you crank it.
Scott what do u think is causing the hard starting problem , I’m in NY we all enjoy your show
Low compression
@@BusGreaseMonkey Just like a super stock diesel pulling tractor. They lower the compression so they can get more boost. They will not start with 3 or more cans of ether.
They don't call it GAS - Monkey for nothing, 🤣🤣
Monkey for nothing….? and the chicks for free?
What is the story on that 4104? Is it an acquisition/project or is it a customer's coach?
Seems like its is an ether baby.