🎾 Are Foam Filled Tennis Rackets The Future Or Just A Gimmick? 👀
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
- Foam filled tennis rackets are becoming more and more popular. You can find this technology in frames from Tecnifibre and Solinco in the last couple of years. But now also (Mr.) Wilson stepped in the "foam game" with their newest RF 01 tennis rackets. Is it a real thing or just a gimmick? Let's talk about it. Enjoy the manooovrlbity!
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Old tech actually. Many old rackets were foam-filled before the introduction wide body rackets.
I would like to see any proof, any article, any review mentioning foam inside a tennis racket before Tecnifibre T-Fight RS series in 2020. And I don't take into account small companies like Angell or Diadem.
Check out @donnaytennis.com/about-our-racquets
Foam filling was a scape goat for the industries desire for lighter weight , lower cost of manufacturing and for higher profits . Compared to solid composite racquets of the 1980 's and possible 90 's , the longevity of current racquets is far less . Paint is the same way !
Donnay was one of the first to do the foam filling
Wait I thought a lot of Wilson racquets have always had foam in them? Like going back to the BLX and earlier
Is it just your thought or do you have some official info, article about it? Because I can't really find any official info about foam filled Wilson rackets prior the new RF 01 series.
@@CzechTennisGuy the RF97 is foam filled, that's one of the key differences of that stick and the other Pro Staffs 97 apart from the weight
@@jlparcerisa I really didn't know that because I always followed official info from Wilson and there was zero info about the foam in the used technologies. So this is the first time I read it from Wilson.
Angell have been doing foam filled racquet for many years. Prince too I think. Personally I really like the feel.
Prince? Which frame?
@@klauswinzig4997 Prince POG
The Dunlop CX200 have foam inside them as well. You can definitely notice it on impact as foam, as you point out, has this unique feel of stability and solidness compared to a non-foam racquet.
The cx line? I do not agree.
@@klauswinzig4997 It felt like foam but maybe that’s the box beam they employ.
@@BorisBecker1872 that makes sence, I play the cx 400 tour, 2021 and 2024 and there is no foam.
2024 CX200 line has nil foam. But I do know the feeling you are talking about and its more the box beam design
If the material doesn't change it must be the way to go the topspin and the heavyness of the ball make the rules if the rackets
Depends a lot if ur first racquet of choice when ur young or start tennis was foam filled then u will play definitely better with them because the feel is solid and u will feel holow the rest of the racquet , if vicevers uf u played with empty racquet from start u get used with them , but in principe from me its yes i think foam filed are better gives me the ability to cup the ball more than a holow racquet because of solid feel
My old wilson 95 burn 16x20 is foam filled from factory
Is there any official info from Wilson about this technology in their rackets prior this new RF 01?
@@CzechTennisGuy google is your friend
@@mteca5093 It's not up to me to google every claim in a comment. If you want to convince me or proof me wrong, you should show me the proof.
You say in the middle of the video that foam filled rackets are not pro stock ,but its for the consumers.So tempo iga racket is pro stock or not?
For me compared to other rackets, it feels like a pro stock. Super solid feel. Many people say the same. It's actually too good for a consumer racket.
TF is definitely not the leader in foam-filling. Wilson has been doing it for decades. RF97 is foam-filled.
For decades? Where is the info about foam inside Wilson rackets in the last 15 years? I've been playing tennis for 22 years as an adult. Doing tennis racket reviews since 2018-2019. Never ever I have read official info about foam inside a tennis racket frame before Tecnifibre came with it. I just want to know.
@@CzechTennisGuy Plenty of info on the net if you Google it especially in TW forum. Pro Staff Classic 6.1 is foamed. That's from Edberg's days. How long ago was that? Also the likes of POG. For some reason, foam-filling isn't a feature racket makers advertise. People usually find out about it after breaking their rackets. Just because TF was the first to advertise it doesn't make them the first to use it.
Anyway, I enjoyed the video. Interesting topic. Thank you.
@@alvindexplorer2567 Allright, if it's correct, I'm really surprised that the foam isn't in all of the rackets around. If this is an old and working tech, why they didn't talk about it or mention it in the specs. There has been always this info about the frames composition - Graphite/Braided Graphite/Basalt etc. but no info about the foam. Weird. I also thank you for your comment and support. I'm still learning new things.
Is it true that the foam inside degrades over time?
Say we get a 2024 RF01... is it going to feel terrible by 2028? or 2030?
good question but who is give u a honest answer ?
Really good question. So take tennis shoes or running shoes as an example. Pro runners or players will tell you, they change the shoes not because of the outsole being used too much, but because of the foam cushioning being used to the point where it no longer gives you comfort and energy return you need.
But there is a difference with the foam inside a frame. The frame holds the foam in one place. So the frame itself works as a protective housing. The foam cannot really expand anywhere like the cushioning in a tennis shoe. So aI think the longevity of the foam inside a tennis racket frame is far longer compared to shoes. But of course it gets worse and worse over time like with any other material including graphite itself.
Every reviewer who got a free RF 1.0 told me it was amazing. Yet everyone who bought one is trying to sell it on Facebook 😁
The problem I have with most of the "professional" reviews today is that they ignore the whole narrative about a tennis racket. They review it from their personal stand point, based on simple emotions and very narrow vision of the product, that is actually meant for thousands and thousands of people, not only for them. So the review should be more balanced, open and should also include the possible risks and flaws that almost every racket has. But of course we know how it is with the big "reviewers" around. It's their job. For me, it's a hobby and that's the only way I can stay independent.
@@CzechTennisGuy Yes, racket reviews are kind of pointless. When you read or watch a review, you get one person’s subjective experience heavily influenced by their unique circumstances. And most of them have not even played it with for an extended period. I believe if you were to get several reviewers together, and get them to try out blacked-out rackets, then most would not be able to specify which is which. Outside the differences in head shape/beam making it too obvious. After all, the rackets come out of the same factory anyway regardless of brand.
Foam filling racquets started popping up, during the Padal ball racquets & when the game got launched.
I own the new rf pro. I will sell it. I also tried tecnifibre frames. I sold all tecnifibre . I will never buy a foam filled racket again.
Why not?
its easy to understand it, Roger is one and the amateours are many its obvious that many players cant use it :) i play with rf97 so i have no problem playing with it and i dont see any other players to play with rf97....this year i was on a tournament and there was a guy that had rf97 , we started playing he was loosing and he changed to shift, now i see ad that he is also selling the shift :)
That's true but at the same time it's a bad advertisement for Wilson. If the racket is true to it's origins, people would keep it jst to have Rogers racket in their collection. But with this new "grandpa Roger" racket people don't trust it nor believe in it that much. It's hard to tell if the racket is "bad" or if the marketing and all of the hype was really meant to be this way. In my opinion instead of this series they should have release an ultimate RF97 racket with the exact specs including customized weight that would be incorporated directly to the frame itself without using lead tape. People would buy it and keep it, not sell.
@@CzechTennisGuy most of people have no idea about tennis in general usually those guys are buying new rackets trying to find racket to make them a better players, but that racket won’t make them roger because they cannot play tennis. It’s normal to happen that situation. Me and you should not care about it. I am
Just watching and enjoying the show, how bad the racket is and on next tournament I will kick assess with it again :)
Actually it reminds me of Rafa origin story :)
@@bushmenaa Rafa Origin is brutal. Great racket to hit with for 30 minutes. Serve is painful with this racket 🙂
@@CzechTennisGuy I don’t own the original but I customised the 1st gen, but I tested it with signup pro X Persiance 1.24 and I didn’t like it, since then I haven’t tried it with other strings. I tested other rackets :)
Tecnifibre is the leader in foam filling? Why?
Because to my knowledge they were the first company who officialy put foam inside their frame as part of the technology with the T-Fight RS series in 2020. Since then they put the foam inside all of their T-Fight rackets. Other companies like Angell and Diadem are doing this, but these are not major tennis racket brands so I don't really count them.
@@CzechTennisGuy Does that explain why the rackets are white? So the white foam blends in with the color of the frame?
@@BorisBecker1872 No, the color of the frame has nothing to do with the foam. The foam is inside the frame and doesn't show on surface of the frame.
@@CzechTennisGuy Exciting. So a new invention and development only counts as such if the manufacturer has sufficient market share? Which was the first graphite racket? The OG from Prince or a Head because Prince was actually too small? Neither, ... it was the Völkl Zebra. You can't just ignore developments and post that as common sense into your audience ....
@@NdRe_zA That's true and I should not ignore that but we live in 2024 and I don't do "history" videos even though they might be very interesting to some extent. But if you look back 10 years, there is not much to say about foam filled rackets. I literally found out about this thanks to Tecnifibre. Maybe the racket companies back in the days didn't marketed it for some reason. So now it looks like a "completely new tech". Even Wilson puts it in their RF 01 rackets and calls it a Feel Fill technology. There was zero words about this in the previous years, nothing. Only Tecnifibre started marketing it in 2020 with their TFight RS series. So it's still fresh in this sense. And now others will follow.
I can see people getting frustrated little bit with this video and now I see why. Next time I will pay more attention to this fact checking. But only this shows that even someone like me who spent his whole life with a tennis racket in his hand doesn't know everything. And at least this opens up some new and interesting discussion where everyone can learn from others. That's why I'm doing these videos to "compare" my experience with experience of others which is super exciting. Thanks fo your comment.
Wilson Blade are foam filled. Angell also
Where can I find this info? Because in the last couple of years Blades never had any info about foam inside. This technology is listed as brand new for RF 01 on Wilson website.
@@CzechTennisGuy , I have seen several retail blade V5 broken. All had foam inside . Same for BLX. I don’t know if they had foam before BLX
@@mirceamurgu The problem I have with this is that Wilson didn't really talk about foam filled frames in the past. So was it really a technology or some hidden tech that Wilson didn't want us to know about? And now it's becoming a standard and they make it a real technology to the public.
I had a Blade v6 16x19 which I ended up smashing a while ago. There was no foam inside.
@@johncharles2357 That's what I thought. Someone told me that the V5 had the foam. But who knows.
Old school design
Any further info why it is old school design and where I can find info about it?
@@CzechTennisGuy ; This is how most of the early Graphite frames were made before the wide body frames came on the market.
@@MrPBODY1966 And do you have any proof, like some article, video, review etc. Because some people claim it isn't really new but I didn't see any proof of it from them.
@@CzechTennisGuy I started playing in 1966, I'm sorry but i don't keep old print information around any more.
@@MrPBODY1966 No problem. Many people report the same so it must be truth. I should probably dive into this little bit more next time before I post something like this. But we learn only through mistakes and it's part of the journey.