@@schroederluck7984 playing through kanto as a kid. I guess i didn't make it super clear, but it's just a nostalgic move i liked using when i was young and thought didn't know all the mechanics.
ADV Celebi is the extent of my knowledge of Leech Seed in competitive Pokémon. Love to hear there's more history to the move. Ferrothorn... How could I forget about Ferrothorn?! Y'know, maybe I just subconsciously didn't want to remember Ferrothorn mirrors.
I didn't hear you mention this, but for Gen III OU specifically, Leech Seed, particularly on Celebi, is an invaluable measure against the nightmarish bulky set-up sweeper pair of Suicune and Snorlax, effectively ruining them the moment it's planted. Also, on the same token as the Substitute user Leech Seed'ing, you can also Leech Seed *Substitute users* to also ruin whatever they're trying to accomplish, like a Baton Pass. Finally, I've been rolling with Leech Seed Roar Venusaur in fact for about a month or so now and have been mostly adoring it. I don't like Celebi so I wanted a Grass type for my latest team that could check Zapdos similarly, but Roar is a necessity for preventing it from just Substitute'ing and BP'ing out (which happens all the time). And as I said, it's good as well against Snorlax and/or Suicune, which are always tricky to beat, especially as a pair. For the last 2 slots, I chose Giga Drain for STAB, which helps with healing, and *Toxic* over Sleep Powder since you can't spam sleep, and Toxic allows it to cripple its switch-ins and just generally wear the opposing team down of course. It helps with 1v1s against Blissey and Celebi to some extent, but I pair it with max attack Dugtrio and effectively either Toxic or Leech Seed works at quickly chipping such mons down into range of a KO.
for offensive teams i like how leech seed doesn't outright do the sweeping, but they give the setup sweepers the longevity necessary to boost enough to win
It's also similar to hazards or (in my opinion) even like a setup move in some ways. Let me explain: It gives you the ranges on PkMN switching into my Torterra's Stealth Rock. Actually, call me crazy all you want, Leech Seed (+ Stealth Rock) REPLACES BOTH Swords Dance AND the unreliable SYNTHESIS.
Sand Veil Cacturne is actually insane. Sucker Punch, Focus Punch, Leech Seed, Spikes, Encore, Substitute It's crazy how well all of these moves work together, there's endless combinations!! Also Dark Pulse, Seed Bomb, Energy Ball, Grass Knot, Focus Blast, Synthesis and the Hidden Power types still exist additionally, so feel free to tell everybody to cook up something cool with this cactus in Gen 3, 4 or even 5! *Forgot Swords Dance, add that to the first cluster of moves
I played against a Jirachi once and I missed 3 leech seeds in a row with celebi. It almost lost me the game but I ended up winning with good doubleswitches against Aero in the late game with Metagross and Salamence but I was so angry at Celebi for letting me down
Some of the Volatile statues would make the opposing mon want to switch out, which would rack up even more chip damage through the hazards that r layed down & I've made a niche team w that strat in mind & ofc phasing moves as well. It includes: Leech Seed, Perish Song, Yawn, Disable, Encore, Confuse Ray, Curse (Ghost-type) & Soak. A few others that I couldnt able to add: Torment, Attract, Embargo (these r hard to make use of anyway).
Thank you for mentioning AV Serp was a thing. I have cooked the worst moveset for gen 9 OU Tera: Fire/Stellar Leaf Storm Scale Shot Tera Blast Giga Drain
wait but doesnt contrary make scale shot lower speed? i mean the def boost is nice but it doesnt seem worth it, besides, its not gonna make use of Serps boosted Sp. Atk.
I did mention it was a bad set. But I would enjoy watching a RUclipsr do it or someone reaching relatively high on the ladder with it. For a more serious suggestion dragon tail and knock look nice.
@@pikminologueraisin2139 I don't know if you're for real, but I'll answer as if you are. Scale shot is dragon-type bullet seed, except it also lowers the defense and increases the speed of the user by one stage. Terastallisation is a gen 9 mechanic that allows one mon to change its typing once per battle to any of the 18 types while keeping its original STABs and gaining the STAB of the tera type. If a mon terastallises to one of its original types it gains an adaptability boost. Terablast is a 80BP special normal type move, unless it's used by a terastallised mon. Its type then turns into the tera type, and the category changes according to the users highest attacking stat (physical/special). Stellar type is a convoluted new terastallisation type, which: 1) does not change the original type(s), 2) gives each of the mons moves a once per type per battle a boost (meaning if a mon has knock off, sucker punch and iron head, clicking knock off after teraing gives it a one time boost, but clicking sucker punch after will not be boosted, while iron head will) , 3) gives access to stellar tera blast. This tera blast hits terastallised mons for supereffective damage, and all other mons for neutral damage. It also drops both attack and special attack by one stage.
Tropius has a stupid, stupid protect sub seed harvest set which was so annoying in early SV PU and ZU It was so obnoxious and it also wasnt too inconsistent since the grass types in the tier werent strong and the ones which were used were weak to air slash
Feeling seeded right now
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Call this channel Leech Seed cuz it slowly drains my vitality as I drift off soundly to sleep listening to it
Try spinning
@@andersonzl13 I will sit on an office chair equipped with a motor for passive spinning. Thank you for the suggestion.
Leech Seed carried me through a dumb amount of casual runs in the video games, always a treasure to see in competitive. Thanks for making this!
Genuinely curious - what moments? Casual play throughs are easy and don’t require leech seed strats in my experience
@@schroederluck7984 playing through kanto as a kid. I guess i didn't make it super clear, but it's just a nostalgic move i liked using when i was young and thought didn't know all the mechanics.
What game were you playing that needed Leech Seed to pull through. A hack that lets casual competitive players play the NPC trainers? 😂
@@iChoseScylla fire red and black when I was 12
BKC I would like to thank you for giving me the mental strength to write 3 term papers and an exam in a week
ADV Celebi is the extent of my knowledge of Leech Seed in competitive Pokémon. Love to hear there's more history to the move.
Ferrothorn... How could I forget about Ferrothorn?! Y'know, maybe I just subconsciously didn't want to remember Ferrothorn mirrors.
In let’s go if you get the sub seed. It’s pretty much over.
Cant forget the demon of ranbats tropius with sub seed and the harvest ability plus flinch chance
@@ostint912 still slow tho
Leech Sneed and Feed
Call me a dirty stall lover... But Leech Seed is my fav Gen 1 move
I didn't hear you mention this, but for Gen III OU specifically, Leech Seed, particularly on Celebi, is an invaluable measure against the nightmarish bulky set-up sweeper pair of Suicune and Snorlax, effectively ruining them the moment it's planted.
Also, on the same token as the Substitute user Leech Seed'ing, you can also Leech Seed *Substitute users* to also ruin whatever they're trying to accomplish, like a Baton Pass.
Finally, I've been rolling with Leech Seed Roar Venusaur in fact for about a month or so now and have been mostly adoring it. I don't like Celebi so I wanted a Grass type for my latest team that could check Zapdos similarly, but Roar is a necessity for preventing it from just Substitute'ing and BP'ing out (which happens all the time). And as I said, it's good as well against Snorlax and/or Suicune, which are always tricky to beat, especially as a pair.
For the last 2 slots, I chose Giga Drain for STAB, which helps with healing, and *Toxic* over Sleep Powder since you can't spam sleep, and Toxic allows it to cripple its switch-ins and just generally wear the opposing team down of course. It helps with 1v1s against Blissey and Celebi to some extent, but I pair it with max attack Dugtrio and effectively either Toxic or Leech Seed works at quickly chipping such mons down into range of a KO.
Bruh you might wanne edit the first part, the shortened version of your comment ends in “invaluable measure against the nig”
thank you bkc for sharing your seed with us!
I was just listening to a bunch of your older videos at work this is so convenient!
I love watching The History of Leech Seed by Blazing Kicking Chicken!
She leeching on my seed ‘til my health is drained 😩
Who up leeching they seed?
for offensive teams i like how leech seed doesn't outright do the sweeping, but they give the setup sweepers the longevity necessary to boost enough to win
It's also similar to hazards or (in my opinion) even like a setup move in some ways.
Let me explain:
It gives you the ranges on PkMN switching into my Torterra's Stealth Rock.
Actually, call me crazy all you want, Leech Seed (+ Stealth Rock) REPLACES BOTH Swords Dance AND the unreliable SYNTHESIS.
On Cacturne in Sand Leech Seed ALSO replaces Swords Dance if using Sucker Punch as your mono-attacking STAB move.😎
Sand Veil Cacturne is actually insane.
Sucker Punch, Focus Punch, Leech Seed, Spikes, Encore, Substitute
It's crazy how well all of these moves work together, there's endless combinations!!
Also Dark Pulse, Seed Bomb, Energy Ball, Grass Knot, Focus Blast, Synthesis and the Hidden Power types still exist additionally, so feel free to tell everybody to cook up something cool with this cactus in Gen 3, 4 or even 5!
*Forgot Swords Dance, add that to the first cluster of moves
I played against a Jirachi once and I missed 3 leech seeds in a row with celebi. It almost lost me the game but I ended up winning with good doubleswitches against Aero in the late game with Metagross and Salamence but I was so angry at Celebi for letting me down
1/1000 chance if my math skills aren't rusty
It's 50/50, it either happens or it doesn't@@enoyna1001
Love your content man thanks for making these
Leech sneed
Formerleech Sneed's
Leechjarious Sneed
One of my fav moves and objectively a very good competitive move. Amazing vid, extremely accurate analysis, thank you BKC
Some of the Volatile statues would make the opposing mon want to switch out, which would rack up even more chip damage through the hazards that r layed down & I've made a niche team w that strat in mind & ofc phasing moves as well. It includes: Leech Seed, Perish Song, Yawn, Disable, Encore, Confuse Ray, Curse (Ghost-type) & Soak. A few others that I couldnt able to add: Torment, Attract, Embargo (these r hard to make use of anyway).
30:36 worry seed on Venusaur to remove magic guard could help the clef matchup 🤔
Nothing will ever be more powerful than sub seed harvest Tropius
Dude, I've been building DPP leech seed teams for the past three weeks and I'm so grateful you posted this
When it misses… I cry in let’s go.
I don't see meganium in the GSC segment...
She leech on my seed til i switch
God I love seed!
Really wish ANY of the games gave you this move as a TM.
Leech seed is very good and annoying at the same time for you
nice callout to the jimtour game with speedpass to subseed breloom
@bkc you should make a video playlist all of your history of videos so I don’t have to scroll through all your videos looking for the history ones.
Weird question but what’s with the greyscale thumbnails. It kinda makes them blend together in my mind, not sure if that’s intentional
Great to seed such an important move covered
Hey BKC, do you think you could put together something regarding how the game would be id there was hp boosting natures
Ooo this is a really good one!
2hp shedinja
celesteela is a fantastic and unique mon and i cannot wait for the guy to come to gen 9 if it ever does.
Thank you for mentioning AV Serp was a thing. I have cooked the worst moveset for gen 9 OU
Tera: Fire/Stellar
Leaf Storm
Scale Shot
Tera Blast
Giga Drain
wait but doesnt contrary make scale shot lower speed? i mean the def boost is nice but it doesnt seem worth it, besides, its not gonna make use of Serps boosted Sp. Atk.
I did mention it was a bad set. But I would enjoy watching a RUclipsr do it or someone reaching relatively high on the ladder with it.
For a more serious suggestion dragon tail and knock look nice.
what is tera, tera blast, scale shot and stellar?
@@pikminologueraisin2139 I don't know if you're for real, but I'll answer as if you are.
Scale shot is dragon-type bullet seed, except it also lowers the defense and increases the speed of the user by one stage.
Terastallisation is a gen 9 mechanic that allows one mon to change its typing once per battle to any of the 18 types while keeping its original STABs and gaining the STAB of the tera type. If a mon terastallises to one of its original types it gains an adaptability boost.
Terablast is a 80BP special normal type move, unless it's used by a terastallised mon. Its type then turns into the tera type, and the category changes according to the users highest attacking stat (physical/special).
Stellar type is a convoluted new terastallisation type, which: 1) does not change the original type(s), 2) gives each of the mons moves a once per type per battle a boost (meaning if a mon has knock off, sucker punch and iron head, clicking knock off after teraing gives it a one time boost, but clicking sucker punch after will not be boosted, while iron head will) , 3) gives access to stellar tera blast. This tera blast hits terastallised mons for supereffective damage, and all other mons for neutral damage. It also drops both attack and special attack by one stage.
@@mort3562 wow thx a lot
i played through a lot of Cartridge Gen 1 with a toxic + leech seed venusaur + a wrap dragonite
Surprised you didn't mention Seeds Sceptile in adv or Jumpluff in gsc uu
Leech Seed vs Wish, all pressured up, who winning PP war?
Depends on the Pokémon who are facing each other (their Speed).
Lugia's Fight to the Finish!
I hope tropius is mentioned!
I love the bananasaur but bro is not making any history 💀
Tropius has a stupid, stupid protect sub seed harvest set which was so annoying in early SV PU and ZU
It was so obnoxious and it also wasnt too inconsistent since the grass types in the tier werent strong and the ones which were used were weak to air slash
I always lose to this demon everytimes I see him in random battles 💀
Sir fruititus isn’t in the history books yet
GIMME THE SUCC
Do bulky offense need a fast pokemon in the back, or is a dragon dancer good enough? (Adv)
Ferrothorn needs an evolution with stats as good as Kingambits. (Ferrothorn but actually hits back hard with 120+ Attack)
I think Ivy cudgel could make sense on Ferro so it would also have a spamable stab
@@Cobalt957 New signature move Power Whip that also inflict leech seed.
@@xy394ok but we get hidden power back
@@xy394 They should call it Sappy Seed or something like that
Pls no eviolite ferro
i think you have forgotten sceptile in gen 3
Grassy terrain should just be leech seed
Nah
BKC
BBC
CBT
Leach seed is innuedno
I love Leech Seed
Leech seed celesteela is one of my favorite sets of all time. Right behind sub toxic aegislash
BKC just dropped a video 😻