Thief: the team that changed GSC

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  • @BKCplaysPokemon
    @BKCplaysPokemon  6 месяцев назад +36

    Thief (1981) was a huge influence on Drive (2011) starring Ryan Gosling
    Some more tour replays with the team:
    replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen2ou-515006
    replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen2ou-514552
    replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen2ou-436070
    replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-1107449782
    replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-1112086734
    replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-1090587189
    replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen2ou-434171
    replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen2ou-552108
    replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen2ou-662332
    replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen2ou-444825

    • @wazzledog1007
      @wazzledog1007 6 месяцев назад +2

      I loved that third replay with the snorlax.

    • @llamaryder1
      @llamaryder1 6 месяцев назад

      Did that snorlax just sweep with STRUGGLE

  • @oneobstyboi5697
    @oneobstyboi5697 6 месяцев назад +108

    BKC thieving my heart with these long videos

  • @patt1511
    @patt1511 6 месяцев назад +27

    BKC being suprised by his past self's reads never fails to make me smile.

  • @swineflu249
    @swineflu249 6 месяцев назад +38

    thief spam has become potent in GSC UU as well. mons like haunter, electabuzz, and gligar use thief to soften checks to dangerous offensive mons like nidoqueen, gyarados, and electabuzz itself. something like hypno becomes much less effective w/o lefties, especially considering how omnipresent spikes are. even thieving something like qwilfish can help an allied blastoise win the spikes war.
    hope BKC will shine the spotlight on GSC UU at some point in the future. it's a great tier that I think is shrouded in a lot of misinformation and could use some more exposure

  • @jman2050
    @jman2050 6 месяцев назад +27

    I love how this Zapdos set is something you’d see in a 10-year old’s casual single player game.

  • @jimothycool
    @jimothycool 6 месяцев назад +29

    Thief is what made me enjoy GSC

  • @schroederluck7984
    @schroederluck7984 6 месяцев назад +35

    Imagine getting a Lovely Kiss from Nidoking 🥰

    • @Rezzo64
      @Rezzo64 6 месяцев назад +17

      😍🤩🥰 Nidoking Lovely Kiss vs. Me: 0-0 (0 - 0%) -- possibly the best move ever

  • @user-ee3su1in4i
    @user-ee3su1in4i 6 месяцев назад +19

    hi BKC, the teambuilding video you released recently helped me build a team i used to get suspect reqs in gen 9 for the first time. thanks for providing quality resources to folks who want to get into/better at pokemon.

  • @ark8021
    @ark8021 6 месяцев назад +15

    1:44 as someone playing in a Chicago recreation in my school (rerecorded musics, whole script translated and everything) in less than 2 weeks, having my favorite youtuber mention this wonderful musical warms my heart!

  • @PattPlays
    @PattPlays 6 месяцев назад +6

    32:00 >imagines machamp with whirlwind to succ in a snorlax and cross chop it.. "What If Circle Throw was in GSC"

  • @SnowMonkeySoFunky
    @SnowMonkeySoFunky 5 месяцев назад +3

    Thank you for reminding me that I bought a copy of Thief from a Criterion flash sale a while ago and forgot to watch it. That's on for this weekend.

  • @fulltimeslackerii8229
    @fulltimeslackerii8229 6 месяцев назад +6

    Time for me to shake up the Gen 2 meta:
    Rest talk, sandstorm, hidden power electric tyranitar

  • @webster1211
    @webster1211 6 месяцев назад +3

    Lake of Rage theme is amazing!

  • @11_turtles
    @11_turtles 6 месяцев назад +6

    My friends and I were talking about like what if BKC did a video on "How good would Mudsdale be in ADV OU" because it's my favorite Pokemon. : ) Even with my limited ADV OU knowledge I think it'd be decent.

    • @user-hb7bo4mr2i
      @user-hb7bo4mr2i 6 месяцев назад +2

      Sounds like a goated rock resist

    • @20oxide36
      @20oxide36 6 месяцев назад +4

      If it keeps Stamina, it sounds like an incredible Aero check. Historically, mono ground hasn't been great because of how much ground benefits from dual types but fortunately Mudsdale does hit really hard so that's nice. I could see some rest sets like EQ/Toxic/Rest/Sleep Talk or EQ/Rock Slide/Curse/Rest. I don't normally like RestTalk in ADV but it synergizes pretty well with Stamina. There are also some pretty standard utility sets where it could be used like a grounded Flygon with EQ/Rock Slide/Toxic/Protect or EQ/Toxic/Protect/Roar. It also learns Superpower for a big hit on Blissey or Snorlax, that's pretty much it though as anything else not hit by EQ+Slide is probably more scared of a Toxic than a Superpower. Hidden Power Bug/Ghost are also good options and would make a CB set pretty threatening but probably easy to play around and chip away with spikes.

    • @SSBMNicki
      @SSBMNicki 6 месяцев назад +2

      I feel like it would completely own Tyranitar, would it not? Even +1 Earthquakes from tyranitar don't do that much, Ice Beams also do less than half, and Mudsdale gets superpower which destroys tyranitar.

  • @anon-99
    @anon-99 6 месяцев назад +4

    Hello movie, mons, and music enthusiast Mr. BKC,
    You've talked a lot about the importance of foresight (both short and long term), and where possible, planning games out -- I think it would be cool to hear your thoughts on that in video form someday. Thank you for the content!

  • @sensei9767
    @sensei9767 4 месяца назад

    Been spamming this team on ladder ever since you made this video, and I love it! This was the first team that made me really enjoy playing gsc OU and at this point, it's probably my favorite metagame.

  • @peadarmcmenamin2676
    @peadarmcmenamin2676 6 месяцев назад +2

    this team was what kickstarted my interest in gsc - so much fun to play

  • @Deredeo13
    @Deredeo13 6 месяцев назад +5

    I really hope Refn revisits the Driver with the sequel, Driven. The book was so amazing and the revenge plot fit in nicely, as well as the villian.

    • @Deredeo13
      @Deredeo13 6 месяцев назад +1

      Also moving the story from California to Arizona worked for being a modern day western

  • @qweschuning
    @qweschuning 6 месяцев назад +2

    I could listen to BKC for like ever. He's always dropping gems! 🙌

  • @SpaceFrog999
    @SpaceFrog999 6 месяцев назад +3

    Jimothy cool mentioned

  • @JohnHunterPlayerr
    @JohnHunterPlayerr 6 месяцев назад +1

    Zap out running jynx is something that needs fixing.

  • @AndrewRKenny
    @AndrewRKenny 12 дней назад +1

    I lost to this team in GSC Cup X. Good times. 😅

  • @moyai5317
    @moyai5317 6 месяцев назад +2

    I love that moltress can absorb thief

  • @Dave_Chrome
    @Dave_Chrome 6 месяцев назад +1

    Finally more Pokemon music yay

  • @llamaman431
    @llamaman431 6 месяцев назад +2

    That moment when you realize how deep into Pokemon you've gotten

  • @mehdidelteil3672
    @mehdidelteil3672 5 месяцев назад +1

    The problem with the triple thief is heracross, who switch too easly into nidoking and gengar and they cannot thief a already no item heracross

  • @qweschuning
    @qweschuning 6 месяцев назад +3

    27:57 PRIME BKC. No audio cut, no edits. 🔥🔥💯🔥

    • @qweschuning
      @qweschuning 6 месяцев назад +2

      No, I didn't skip the break ❤

    • @qweschuning
      @qweschuning 6 месяцев назад +2

      Don't test your bladder

  • @shortpitched713
    @shortpitched713 6 месяцев назад

    I loved using this team. A banger. A true hood classic.

  • @etohKP
    @etohKP 6 месяцев назад

    38:04 "'a trainer'. what am i, a pokemon vgc commentator?"
    LMFAO absolutely killed me

  • @Rose-ez7yn
    @Rose-ez7yn 6 месяцев назад +9

    l + ratio + frozen + no leftovers + 23%

  • @birthdayninjah
    @birthdayninjah 6 месяцев назад +1

    Basically Knife Conniving

  • @pumas222
    @pumas222 6 месяцев назад +2

    Tried watching Thief with my girlfriend the other night. It was not the vibe. Maybe I’ll rewatch it alone, but it was so droll at the time.

  • @isaacdeer
    @isaacdeer 5 месяцев назад +1

    awesome sauce

  • @Tommidaux
    @Tommidaux 6 месяцев назад +1

    Great vid
    No CasedVictory mention ?

  • @Qaos
    @Qaos 3 месяца назад

    Speaking of shifting metagames, what's your take on unfreezing older generations that have dedicated councils and a large enough player base?

  • @9bit927
    @9bit927 6 месяцев назад +5

    My favorite part in Thief was when SPOILERS:
    One thing goes bad for the guy and he just burns down everything he's ever worked on. Every man feels that deep in his soul.

  • @jacobcochran7018
    @jacobcochran7018 6 месяцев назад +1

    Bkc your the goat

  • @Paul_Reeds_Boyfriend
    @Paul_Reeds_Boyfriend 6 месяцев назад +1

    POKKED

  • @fulltimeslackerii8229
    @fulltimeslackerii8229 6 месяцев назад +1

    Berserker gene is the best gen 2 item

  • @nSenuh
    @nSenuh 6 месяцев назад +4

    BKC

  • @shortpitched713
    @shortpitched713 6 месяцев назад

  • @yourdagan
    @yourdagan 6 месяцев назад +4

    Awareness of Thief's presence in this metagame led me to explore it in Gen 3 OU, which is not unheard of via Skarmory but otherwise so; it's aptly considered 'worse Knock Off', but the distribution is so much wider and that pseudo-possession of such a valuable utility move grants value and utility to mons that would otherwise be considered worthless and unusable.
    In particular I tried Thief on Magmar and I was very pleased with its ability to always make itself useful even if it theoretically only got one move off, particularly on its lures like Blissey and Swampert.
    I imagine there's a lot of hidden potential in the move for that metagame that is underlooked because it's just worse Knock Off ultimately, but when it is accepted for what it is, that can be at least a little bit exciting because of how good and yet rare Knock Off is.

    • @BelugaTheHutt
      @BelugaTheHutt 6 месяцев назад +4

      There can even be a few very, very niche uses of Thief in recent generations.
      If something seems like it would be excellent with Knock Off, but it doesn't have access to Knock Off, sometimes it can pull off a miracle with Thief. It's much, much more situational, since you can't just treat it as a "free click", the way you would with Knock Off, because you really want it to specifically hit Leftovers holders or HDB users, or in some specific cases, AV or CB users can be acceptable targets, but really it's primarily an anti-Leftovers niche.
      Before the DLC came out with the Knock Off TM, I used Thief Scizor a bit, since the things which people were switching into it at the time seemed to be mostly holding Leftovers. The loss of Roost really hurt Scizor though, because the set felt like it didn't do enough with its one-off item removal to justify the team slot when it didn't have a recovery move to stick around and do other things. I also got a few games with Thief Fezandipiti after DLC1 a few isolated times in which it worked as intended - I should get around to trying it again, now that it's allowed in RU, where it might actually be able to work more consistently. This will make serious players roll their eyes, andI know that it already learns Knock Off, but the meme set of Fling+Covet Ambipom is surprisingly okay down in the depths of NU, where you can get away with absolute nonsense like that.
      Thief/Covet certainly doesn't get anything on the same level as the early gens, but there can be tiny bits of use, here and there.