After watching ESL, I was initially sad that I'd have to rewatch this series. Then, honestly.. I was extremely glad I did. Winter, you're the best damn caster, period. And the energy and knowledge you bring is unmatched.
I think the frustrating thing about PvT right now is it feels entirely in the hands of whether the Terran messes up. If both play perfectly, it feels inevitable that Terran wins, and these two are so close to perfect that I just get sad because it feels like MaxPax is just as good but loses most series against Clem
Serral not being here really opened up the bracket for this epic finally. Not saying im happy hes gone but damn is it refreshing. Clem being the next titan to topple is gonna be a sight to behold.
Both played well. It was a great set. But my biggest complaint about TvP is how all or nothing some fights are. T pushes in, Phoenixes hold the Vikings, T dies to Collossus. P has stalkers out just a hair too long, loses half his army for free, T's push is impossible to hold.
Inside Europe, only Serral can shutdown Clem, and even so it's about 60-40 between these 2 madlads. With Serral gone, Clem is like a kid in a candy shop. (he might be eating too much candies and got high on sugar cuz that was way too close)
Serral's return is going to be insane, he's gonna be a fucking mega chad irl and in-game with the mindset of a warrior. Nobody's taking his spot any time soon
Absolutely. Protoss requires batteries to hold first marine push. For second he needs colossus. But on third comes vikings and emp... It's losing battle vs T.
Wow that was a close series. Clem making those Terran units look real OP as per usual. MaxPax putting up a valiant effort with a bunch of different builds and strategies but those Terran pushes are brutal. STIM to win baby
51:30 Supply and resource dead even, and somehow 52:30 Terran on less workers but army nearly twice the size and stronger. Idc what the actual fuck was going on but you can't look at that and say the game mechanism isn't a big fuckup.
Clem looks dominant in the European scene yes, but that doesn’t automatically make him the world best In recent non-EU tournament matches, he lost to Firefly, Nightmare, Oliveira, who we know are not even top tier atm
46:52 Your casting is the only one that's fun to watch. I've watched those other guys, and they're just not up to par. You are the best; just don't let it go to Jimmy's head.
It's a way to force someone to have National pride about their country. And to have fear in the back of their minds that at any moment they might go to "war"
@@JJ-Toreddie I think it's more a function of living next to aggressive dictatorships like Russia or North Korea. Pretty soon Canada and Mexico may need to consider it :D
MaxPax's hidden identity trips me out. I feel like I'm watching Magnus Carlson (world chess champ) vs Hans Neimann (proven cheater) when I watch MaxPax. But then again I assume Blizzard vets these people as being [not Life] and [not abusing AI]. After watching AlphaStar rival Grandmasters half a decade ago, you have to wonder, right?
I might be wrong, as im dia 3 player only, but the way i see it, if you dont have for the first big Terran push splash or mass chargelots, you are dead. MaxPax went for Oracle then into blink, both great harrass units, but units that dont really fight well. Going for both those harrass option means his other tech, like splash dmg or chargelots was delayed so he just died. I would guess he hoped to delay Clem longer with the harrass, but it didnt work. Prolly against other terrans it works.... Im Protoss and i wont lie, it feels to me often as if Terran can absorb both workers and army losses much better then Protoss and have insane economy on 2 bases. Protoss must do everything much more perfect, preserve each unit, scout exactly what T is doing and then maybe they got a chance.
@@firestarter000001yes but no. He needs to either do enough damage to either delay or weaken a push which he failed to do or have enough splash/meatshields to eliminate the bio or make it to painful/risky to engage which he also didn't have enough of so he didn't make a mistake so much as clem didn't make one against the harassment.
"MaxPax, being Danish, understands the danger of Vikings"
Winter properly dressed for the occasion - I dig that.
Exactly, noticed this too :)
Of course he's a professional 😅
I love the jacket!!! Looking sharp sir!
That first game from MaxPax was pure perfection. I thought there is no way he holds this.
He understands the IMBA of terran. Get ahead of terran at all cost.
@@orangepearlf40 Somebody get this guy an wambulance.
Exactly. I will say this : nobody could have hold this except MaxPax. Stats, Showtime, all great defensive Protoss, would have died there.
@@yunfanfan9452 terran is OP, that's just undeniable truth.
@@Amoeby Yeah. Mass Thor/BC roflstomping Protoss T3 comps
I remember when MaxPax first came on the SC2 scene with his insane cheeses. Look at him now, awesome achievement.
After watching ESL, I was initially sad that I'd have to rewatch this series. Then, honestly.. I was extremely glad I did. Winter, you're the best damn caster, period. And the energy and knowledge you bring is unmatched.
I think the frustrating thing about PvT right now is it feels entirely in the hands of whether the Terran messes up. If both play perfectly, it feels inevitable that Terran wins, and these two are so close to perfect that I just get sad because it feels like MaxPax is just as good but loses most series against Clem
You can always count on winter to deliver a cast on the best most professional Star craft 2 matches a reliable 3 days before anyone else.
after all those times of max's stalkers ambushing medevacs, clem finally ambushes the stalkers for the grand final kill
That's the fragility of Toss and to a lesser extent, sc2 units in a nutshell.
Serral not being here really opened up the bracket for this epic finally.
Not saying im happy hes gone but damn is it refreshing.
Clem being the next titan to topple is gonna be a sight to behold.
13:40 Winter most brilliant caster confirmed
😂😂
Both played well. It was a great set.
But my biggest complaint about TvP is how all or nothing some fights are. T pushes in, Phoenixes hold the Vikings, T dies to Collossus. P has stalkers out just a hair too long, loses half his army for free, T's push is impossible to hold.
"Clem, the Neo of StarCrafting" is such a perfect description. Also, love the sports coat. You've got real pan-ass, Winter.
“Geometric disaster and maxpax is acutely aware of it.” Winter, you’re an artist man.
Jimmy, it's 2024 and MaxPax image is still blurred.
Edit: And Serral is becoming a Marine
Not marine. Changeling.
Inside Europe, only Serral can shutdown Clem, and even so it's about 60-40 between these 2 madlads. With Serral gone, Clem is like a kid in a candy shop. (he might be eating too much candies and got high on sugar cuz that was way too close)
What can I say? Timba.
Jimmy, I'm putting work on hold for Winter casting SC2. And all my days have gotten much better for it!
Does anyone know where I can find a list of all of Winter's "Player Cards"?
They're hilarious, and I want to read them all.
I gotta say man...your commentary is simply amazing. You are so quick and smart. Mind-blown.
Serral's return is going to be insane, he's gonna be a fucking mega chad irl and in-game with the mindset of a warrior. Nobody's taking his spot any time soon
Watching Terran vs Protoss is like watching a professional boxer fight a kid in a wheelchair
Absolutely. Protoss requires batteries to hold first marine push. For second he needs colossus. But on third comes vikings and emp... It's losing battle vs T.
Still whining? After all the nerfs to Terran?
@@kaiser2261compared too? Comparatively Terran has had the fewest nerfs over the course of sc2.
Wow that was a close series. Clem making those Terran units look real OP as per usual. MaxPax putting up a valiant effort with a bunch of different builds and strategies but those Terran pushes are brutal. STIM to win baby
Gotta love that these two can go 7 maps in 1 hour.
Terran won again OP as usual
When I saw that Clem was down and the video was under 1 hour I lost the faith. Great cast and great attire!
11:38 this is the best Toss in the world?
If serral is in military i bet his assign as drone operator that control 100 drones to swarm the enemy😂
51:30 Supply and resource dead even, and somehow 52:30 Terran on less workers but army nearly twice the size and stronger. Idc what the actual fuck was going on but you can't look at that and say the game mechanism isn't a big fuckup.
wdym? Max expanded to 3 bases and was creating workers, while Clem invested in production stayed on 2 bases and just pumped marines.
Impressed 2 minutes in by MaxPax's handling of that bunker. Bodes well
So crazy to hear “best in europe and therefore probably the world”
The best Terran vs the best Protoss, and the result were insane as expected.
And of course great casting once again.
the look on winter's face when he fits in the "protoss don't have mouths" gag is chefs kiss
The protoss can "drink" red bull, they pour the can over themselves and absorb it through their skin. ;)
Wow the pop culture references were particularly strong in this Winter video
Wow game 5 was a real strategy game. Really intense with all the tactical moves.
Thanks!
i always give both winter and lowko games a watch and leave a comment even if it sounds means because it still give them a interaction credit
The map is dark and full of terrans. That GOT me 😂😂😂
MaxPax first game wow
Terran on two base = win.
Me before starting: "Best of 7 and under an hour? Well with winner's bracket being spotted a game, I guess that spoils the set."
Me at 25:00: "Oh"
I didn't even realize he was wearing a blazer until 48 minutes in lol
Protoss basic units need a big buff
It's called 1-1-1
Bio is just so ridiculously strong xD
* in the hands of Clem or Byun
And be destroy with a single Disruptor
@adminsaify not in the hands of clem or byuun they make disruptions look like a waste of supply
GG WP
Outstanding performance by both of them, as usual.
What a series! Great casting as well!
Clem looks dominant in the European scene yes, but that doesn’t automatically make him the world best
In recent non-EU tournament matches, he lost to Firefly, Nightmare, Oliveira, who we know are not even top tier atm
I like this caster's new look. could push for a tie aswell.
which building does clem uses to produce kitchen sinks ?
Great, more Terran.
Clem is such an amazing player. I really like how he plays out all his opponents
Only thing this cast missed was Brenda And Karen
Seriously we need Serral back so he can cast more zergs
@@spidzcatsBrenda get serral back! I just finished pooping creep Susan i don't know where he is!
"In a world without Serrel, The Kid reigns supreme" 🤣
Winter is the best caster. Needs more cred!
i dig the blazer makes everything feel much more official
1:22 I love how we already have a complete shitshow going on. These two are great
Nice to honor the occasion with a suit. Sorry for the ending though, i where cheering for MaxPax :(
Great series and great cast!
These two on finals? Noone would expect
MaxPax should study how Nightmare completely dismantled Clem with storm. I never saw a single storm from Max during this entire series.
we didnt even get blink in most of the games, i dont think there was time to go storm
46:52 Your casting is the only one that's fun to watch. I've watched those other guys, and they're just not up to par. You are the best; just don't let it go to Jimmy's head.
SC2 goodness 💯🙏🏼
Love Winter's witty comments
Why cast starts from 1:0???
The dedication to wear a sportcoat in the summer
LowkoTV also casted the same match, I think you guys should avoid repeating cast, because I only have time to watch one of you xD
If you cast another video, I'll probably give this video the infamous, desirable and unheard of like.
keep it up Winter!, love your casts.
Expecting a protoss tournament win? yeah, i don't know what i was thinking. Misplaced optimism for real
That first game was godlike
Maxpax makes Protoss look mega easy
Is there some kind of selection bias for Stracraft II savants and countries with compulsory military service? Never knew that about Finland!
It's a way to force someone to have National pride about their country. And to have fear in the back of their minds that at any moment they might go to "war"
@@JJ-Toreddie I think it's more a function of living next to aggressive dictatorships like Russia or North Korea. Pretty soon Canada and Mexico may need to consider it :D
He saw them zealots at 5:50 😂 coming for the tanks like u got it.
👍for pro-caster version of Winter.
Men with drugs, guns, and Medivacs. What more does Terran need?
Is it just me or did anyone else mistake the thing on his shirt as his "strong arm" at first? 😂 I can't unsee it
35:20
WHAT WAS THAT
I cant believe it, I only saw that happen to zerg....
MaxPax's hidden identity trips me out. I feel like I'm watching Magnus Carlson (world chess champ) vs Hans Neimann (proven cheater) when I watch MaxPax. But then again I assume Blizzard vets these people as being [not Life] and [not abusing AI]. After watching AlphaStar rival Grandmasters half a decade ago, you have to wonder, right?
Clem won against Serral 2 times on March 8 stream. The rest lost to Serral.
What happened in game 1?!
Nevermind. Never lost so he gets a 1 game spot
That Has card is hilarious
I appreciate a full bodied protoss.
Honestly i was sad scarlett lost both of her last two matchups, she did so well before that :(
Drugs and guns have sustained Terrans for thousands of years 😂
Hi, can anyone help me understand if and how I can change the key to queue unit actions,(basically put on shift), thanks in advance.
1.6 k likes,, Jimmy we need to go HIGHER!!
amazing series
Clem literally went no medivac challenge on Alcyone
end of game comment
max pax with some incredible unit control this series
Sadly still gets crushed :
Those StarCraft memes at 14:38 lmfao
I was really hoping for another result, but we can't argue that either player played badly.
It's just that Terran is OP, obviously 😉
why are these players so quick to concede? In the old days they would fight tooth and nail until the last unit.
Why you don’t have photo of maxpax ?
Maxpax hasn't done a face reveal, or played in an offline event. There's no picture to use.
@@cousinpatsey2471 there is no his face anywhere
@@yuriitiunov8803 right. We don't even know his actual name yet.
Digging in now Jimmy!
Marines and Marauders need to be nerfed!!
What was MaxPax's mistake in game 7? Im a bit tired of seeing terran walk through any protoss early game army...
I might be wrong, as im dia 3 player only, but the way i see it, if you dont have for the first big Terran push splash or mass chargelots, you are dead. MaxPax went for Oracle then into blink, both great harrass units, but units that dont really fight well. Going for both those harrass option means his other tech, like splash dmg or chargelots was delayed so he just died. I would guess he hoped to delay Clem longer with the harrass, but it didnt work. Prolly against other terrans it works.... Im Protoss and i wont lie, it feels to me often as if Terran can absorb both workers and army losses much better then Protoss and have insane economy on 2 bases. Protoss must do everything much more perfect, preserve each unit, scout exactly what T is doing and then maybe they got a chance.
@@firestarter000001yes but no. He needs to either do enough damage to either delay or weaken a push which he failed to do or have enough splash/meatshields to eliminate the bio or make it to painful/risky to engage which he also didn't have enough of so he didn't make a mistake so much as clem didn't make one against the harassment.
Being that I'm a geriatric gamer with arthritis. My fingers hurt just watching this.
Beautiful game
Winter is better than Clem and MaxPax!
Is Maxpax really the best protos in the world or is he just trying to sell us his merch
winterfriend is best caster friend
Clem makes stim look OP