I took the CFMOTO to Windrock in TN! Z-Force 950 & Segway Villain 1000 - Side by Sides Trail Riding
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- Опубликовано: 2 дек 2023
- Stress testing continues on the CFMOTO Z-Force 950 HO EX! The next stage of abuse takes place at Windrock Park in Tennessee where I meet up with the guys from Team MSC and @RealTalkPowersports We also watch a Z-Force on 35's take on a brand new @segwaypowersports Villain on 35's. Visit our Shopify store: teamajp.myshopify.com Support the Channel by using our affiliate link at Rocky Mountain ATV/MC: www.rockymountainatvmc.com/l/... A small commission from each sale goes back to the channel! Do you want some Finntrail riding gear? finntrail.com/adrenalinejunki.... Use our affiliate link along with our discount code "AJP" to save 10% on your Finntrail order.
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Your channel is exactly what made my decisions when it came to buying my Kawasaki KRX.
You seem to expose the good and the bad no matter what the ride when you’re out on the trails. So getting my KRX has taken my channel all the way up to 12,000 subscribers now. Thanks for the help.
I would love to ride with you one day.
CFMOTO Z-Force 950 HO EX stress testing continues! We also throw a Segway Villain 1000 into the mix to see how it does. This is day one of a three of our recent trip to Windrock Park in Tennessee. I know a lot of you wanted to see how a CFMOTO would do on "real" trails so over the next 3 days of riding we will do our best to show you how these machines do at Windrock. We ride a variety of trails, including some pretty difficult ones. Stay tuned and see how these machines do. As I promised when I got the Z-Force, I try to be as unbiased and transparent as I can be with how the machine performs. Day 2 and 3 will have a wider range of machines. Day one was more of a warm up day but we still covered some great trails. Leave a comment and let us know what you think!
Thank you for the kind words, brother! 🙏🏼💪🏼 appreciate you!
I just speak the truth brother. Riding with you, Blake and Steve was an absolute pleasure and I can’t wait to do it again. I had such a great time with you guys.
@@AdrenalineJunkieProd we can’t wait either!! The pleasure was all ours 🙏🏼
Hi@@AdrenalineJunkieProd
THUMBS UP if you think the CFMOTO's did well! Do you think they will hold together in the long run being used like this?
Been using mine @ Windrock and other places in Tennessee (where I live) for over a year. Same setup as yours other than Rockabilly's. So far so good.
I believe it is like any other vehicle. If you hold it to the boards in mud and then hit something solid of course something is going to grenade. Sending it and being a lunatic is fun, but in the right places. Finesse plays a role here and there too. Anybody can wreck in 5 minutes and get some outstanding footage, but experienced riders will last the whole weekend and get ALL the outstanding footage.
@@RhinoOffroad-zq8fh really well said man. I agree 100% Carnage can be entertaining but at the end of the day it’s not sustainable or fun in the long run. The people that complain about the riding not being hard enough in the videos are often the ones that would never even take their machines onto the difficult trails lol
@@AdrenalineJunkieProd Exactly. I do all my own wrenching and I don't mind it, but I don't go looking for excuses to do MORE of it. I am not even counting the drain on the wallet!
@@RhinoOffroad-zq8fh ya, exactly. To me the issue isn’t even the fact that breaking stuff costs money, my biggest issue is the time it takes to fix. Especially having to maintain multiple machines. It’s not fun to ride for 5 mins and wrench for 5 hours.
AWESOME Video brother!!! I love your perspective and editing style for Day 1! Can't wait to see the rest of the footage
THUMBS UP if you think the SEGWAY VILLAIN on 35's did well! What do you think of the Villain?
I own a Segway Villain and have been impressed with it so far. I've got about 500 miles on mine now, so not a ton, but holding up well so far. I'm a BIG guy. Seats in it are nice and wide and plenty of leg room. Works well for me.
What an awesome trip. I’m ready for more!!!
Me too man! Next trip will be even better! We will need to plan something in the near future.
@@AdrenalineJunkieProd agreed! I’m bringing the X3 next time lol
Good afternoon Bud, so watching the driveway repair, clutch etc, it's awesome to see the workings and maintenance and how to do it 🎉, now back to the video, thanks for everything Bud 😀
Awesome been waiting for this. Was watching Blake's vids and you seem to like the CF moto now. Can't wait to hear your opinions on a proper longer ride.
Glad you have been enjoying Blake’s content also. He’s a stand up guy. So far I’m liking it a lot more than I would have ever anticipated. You can likely tell by watching the video that my reactions are genuine. I have no hidden agenda, there is not difference to me whether the machine does good or bad. Obviously, I’d prefer it did well but time will tell. Next video will push the bar quite a bit harder. Stay tuned.
I haven't even bought a machine yet and you have me excited about when I will. I have noticed how prices have dropped recently and I'm all for that.
Good stuff dude! The content has really opened my eyes to these CFMOTO machines. Living in Florida we ride tons of water, so if CFMOTO made a mud machine they could pick up another market. When I looked the aftermarket wasn't there, I imagine over time it will be though.
Glad the content is giving you some perspective. The goal is to just show some open and unbiased riding content so people can make their own conclusions. As for the aftermarket, it’s getting a lot better now. I agree that even 2 or 3 years ago it was weak but it’s really growing now. As far as I know CFMOTO has a mud machine in the works. I think we still have a lot to see from CFMOTO. I feel they are going to keep pushing hard. It’s will also be interesting to see how things go with Segway Powersports.
@@AdrenalineJunkieProd I Was just at a dealer and looked at a Segway, killer looking machine. They just need to get some aftermarket help, snorkels and portal set ups and they would do much better down here in the swampy stuff.
That exhaust sounds great. It looks like the CF Moto is doing very good so far, I can't wait for the next 2 days.
Segway was the star of the show and it wasn’t even the feature. Your msc clutch kit is your best add on. Seemed nice n smooth down low
The Segway Villain worked great. Wait until you see it in day 2 and 3. It will really shine then. As for the clutching, I agree. Best modification for sure, everyone who owns a CFMOTO Z-Force 950 HO EX should do the MSC clutch kit, add in the tune and it literally feels like driving a completely different machine. Night and day difference. That's not a sales pitch, just facts.
I have to say watching this on my 70-in TV wow you can really get a good picture & view of the train crazy
Been waiting for this. Like the battle wagon more than you know but I wanted to see this. #AJP
Glad you and so many others are enjoying us abuse the CFMOTO. I absolutely love the #BattleWagon too but I've been having a ton of fun riding the Z-Force 950 HO EX. I enjoyed riding it a lot more then I had expected on this trip to Windrock.
Love the video. Was some great content. The CFMOTO and Segway done great along with the Polaris.
Glad you enjoyed the video Steve. It was awesome riding with you at Windrock. Ya, all the machines did really well. I was really happy with how my Z-Force performed and it was awesome to see how well the stock Villain did on the 35's. Can't wait to do it again.
Great video.. now waiting for the next one 😊 thank you for sharing the good and the bad that’s why we enjoy watching your videos your very honest about the machines ❤️
What a great group of people!! Looked like a great time for sure. Great honest reviews!
Nice 💪💯.. was an epic adventure
I bet you can't wait to see the day 3 content. I know I'm super excited to edit it!
Bought a 950 HO Sport last week with the KFI plow setup. At almost 70 yrs old I wanted something more comfortable to plow my driveway and do a little trail riding. Won't do anything quite as extreme as you but I'm sure I'll have a smile on my face. Enjoy your content, keep it up.
Great job filming. I put the MSC stage 1 clutch kit in my CForce 600 Touring, it fixed all the low end issues as well as problems shifting in and out of park
X3 guy, but the ZForce really impressed me! Great job to CF Moto!
Watched Real Talk…now I can watch yours!!! Nice. I think the CF Moto would be fine for the %75 of people. Especially me, I’m overly caution on how I take care of the machine since they cost so much.
It's cool that we can watch the adventure from a few different perspectives since Blake and Justin both released a bunch of content too. As for your comment on the CFMOTO's I agree for the most part. If you are a person who is more reserved and you pay attention to maintenance then I too believe that the CFMOTO machines are worth considering. Like I always say, it comes down to multiple factors like your realistic expectations, where and how you plan on using it, how much and how often as well as budget.
Man oh man that looks like 10 pounds of fun in a 5 pound bag. I gotta get down there this coming summer. I just decked out the Killa-saki with 34" Megabites and JBS clutch weights to tune it to the big rubber.......It would just love that terrain! Can't wait for the next vid!
I just did a wheel bearing on the back of my 950. Passenger side .I must have hit something hurd with it. Because I only have two thousand miles on it. And all the others seem to be fine. Thanks for the video. Stay safe and God bless
Great video. CF did pretty good out there especially considering how small the tires were compared to the others
I think the cf moto did a great job
I can tell you were having an awesome time!! Breaking In the machine well
Thanks for the video guys. My sons and I are coming to Windrock in June and we are getting a look at some of the more technical trails there thanks to you. We will be on atvs and some of that looks sketchy.
We met at Crashapaloza 3.0 in Michigan with the Dirt Dudes. Glad to see you got to hang with the MSC team and Justin they are all great people. Awesome video as always. Help you go to the MSC Takeover in Mississippi in May.
I wish y’all could’ve seen 16 like it normally is, muddy af and flooded lol. I live close by and I have not been across it this dry. Also I was sooooo disappointed when yall passed up the ledge on the left at 117 on the clock. That’s the best part of 16 by far. Especially the Segway and Blake with 35” zillas would have had a shot at making it.
Crazy road-trip 👍🏻👍🏻
I bet you can't wait to show the guys I'm excited for you
its intresting to see the difference in videos from all of you on the same ride together. its cool to see.
you guys seem to have a good comordery for as little of time youve spent together.
Hey Chad. We were all talking about how it’s cool that all 3 of us filmed the same ride but the end results are so different. You’re right, it is interesting to see all the different perspectives. As for the camaraderie, when you meet Blake, Justin and Steve it’s hard not to get along. The energy on this ride was awesome. We all got along super well and we all have the same goals. To have fun riding and create enjoyable content while doing so. No competition or showing off, just good old fashioned fun. It’s was an absolute pleasure spending time and riding with everyone on this trip and I can’t wait to do it again. We initiated some solid friendships on this adventure. Something im sure a lot of off-roaders can relate to.
Awsome video (Again) !!!!!!
That machine of Blake’s is a sweet looking machine. The rear box and down bars really helps the shape. They are pretty awkward looking stock… but who leaves their machine stock?
Ya, Blakes machine is a beast. Gotta be one of the biggest Z-Forces to date. Wait till you see it perform in the next two videos. It did really well. I agree they look weird stock, especially out back. The cage really does a good job improving the flow of the body, especially the rear bars like you point out.
Another Great Video Sir. Well how do you like the zforce 950? It looks awesome on the trail for sure. Ready for the next video.
Great video, love it. If you ever going back to windrock and have no quorum let me know i will love to join you guys.
I run a polaris ranger 1000 out of florida.
Was there in a ranger 900 it was great. Keep it up. 💪
It looks like the zforce did really well. I am interested in the zforce 950 sport gen 2. How do you think it would do on trails like you rode at windrock? Great video!
I just want to congrats on every ones machine they all look great I'm new to side by sides I bought a used 2015 artic cat sport I put 29'' mud light 2 on it and a clutch kit to handle those tires looking to upgrade I'm 6'2'' 275 maybe a trip to Mississippi might be in my future
Nice trails 😳🙃
Hate the Buck Rogers ray guns sticking out the back LOL
Love your videos.
Thanks! Very happy to hear that.
I’ve done 16 a few times and it’s NASTY when it’s wet. Granted most of the Jeep guys are on 35+ and my LJ is on 32s. Last time I hit it I destroyed my rear driveshaft, yoke a front brake line and blew a u-joint. Still a hell of a trail, can’t wait to hit it again but definitely need a little more tire under it before that happens 😂
Another great job, but it looks naked without anyone in a green machine! Any idea what that little water gun/pump was? That looked pretty handy!
The Segway is killer, I had a Cf Moto 800 ex with only one complaint not enough leg room I really like the 950 HO I now own a 2023 Can Am X3 turbo rr so far I'm very pleased.
Hey if you don't mind me asking what whip lights and mounting hardware did you use for your zforce? im looking for a set for mine and yours looked to hold up pretty well.
Great Video! Where did the tan cfmoto jacket come from?
I'm looking forward to cfmoto doing big thing in N.C.
ABOUT THE 2 INCH DIFF, TOTAL MAKES A DIFFERENCE I,I just up graded to 19\16 dirt bike from 17/14 .😊 It's like a new bike. Nice burn out ,RIP ,, RESPECT!!! TTR....
I’m really impressed of both your CFMoto build and the Segway.
Did I hear that correct that the Segway clutching is stock??
I’d like to see it clutched and ecu reflashed.
Do you think the overheating could have been a result of the spray getting on rad then when you got in the dust it collected all the dust like the rest of the machine did. Just a thought
I wanna ride with you guys. Next time
I'd love to see if we could plan a group ride somewhere this summer.
Thinking about those tires your running putting them on my CFMOTO 1000 XL
I have a CForce 1000 and the CFMoto machines do have excellent engine breaking. Excellent video btw. I wanna go this park in the worse way. Have you guys been to AOAA or Lost Trails in Pennsylvania?
That was a great video. I really like the cfmoto 950 all the mods so far are perfect. Will there be front arms and 35s inch tires in the future or msc cage install? Safety belt upgrade ? Seat upgrade ? Long term riding with normal maintenance is key let’s see
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. I've been having fun with the Z-Force. I don't think I'll do 35's but I'll likely do front arms and a I've already got harnesses to install. I do want to upgrade the cage. We will see how things unfold, lol.
How do you what line to take do you need a spotter to tell you where to go.
I would like to hear what you think about thee Yamaha rmx wolverine xtr 1000 2 I just bought it and am intersted in what people think of them
Need to look into a wolfsnout. Great for dust...
There are great deals right now on new non current Z-Force 950 ex . At $15999 cad it's pretty hard to beat
Can you inform me of what suspension upgrades you have done or recommend? My stock shocks are popping under the slightest rough terrain which seems to be a common problem. i also want to upgrade the a-arms and clutch. Thank you!
I go over all the upgrades in this series of videos. In short, MSC stage 3 trail clutch kit with helix. MSC ecu tune. GGB exhaust. Misfit garage rear radius rods. No changes to stock shocks and stock a-arms up front. Trail armor full skid plate setup from Team MSC. SATV firewall guards and full door inserts. 32x10x14 tusk Megabite tires.
Need to try Top trails or Indian mountain in Alabama
1:10:14 they either forgot or don’t know about it but you missed a pretty cool waterfall right here. I believe that rectangle sign to the left points it out. You got to go down a hill to see it. You’ll never know it’s their otherwise. I’ll message you on fb with a pic
Awesome! Definitely something to add to the list for the next trip to Windrock. You’re right, I had no idea. We will be going back in the new year.
So- I am confused. Aren't the Segways electric? What was all the engine noise?
Time for a what Scratch sticker
Just watched your video. I like it. just put 32 rockabilly on mine. I haven’t undone my front sway bar but I like the way yours did with out it. Looking forward to the next video of the cf moto.
Glad you enjoyed it man. The 32s were an awesome upgrade. Especially with the clutch kit. Disconnect your sway bar and just zip tie it out if the way. I bet you’ll love riding without it. Only time it really helps is when you are riding very aggressively at high speeds.
@@AdrenalineJunkieProd I will do that.
What do you think about shock straps on them
I've never owned one but my son-in-law has a CF Moto and his father has a Razor. They both are very happy with what they have. Being a novice at all this, I was wondering if you have any favorite machine or suggestions. I've been binge watching your videos and get really pumped to buy one but not sure which direction to go for the right machine.
Overall my recommendation to most people regarding an all around solid machine comes down to two main units. This choice is based on bang for buck, reliability, aftermarket support and overall performance. My choices are and have been for many years, Polaris RZR XP 1000 or Polaris RZR 900S. If you have a bit more of a budget then I’d say another incredibly solid all around choice is the Kawasaki KRX 1000. If your budget is on the higher end it gets complicated and it really depends on what you want to get out of a machine.
@@AdrenalineJunkieProd I appreciate the insight. I've been doing a lot of research and I'm really leaning toward the Polaris RZR XP 1000. It looks like a good all around solid choice for my purposes. Keep up the vids, I just recently discovered your content and can't get enough, I've become a bit of an AdrenalineJunkie junkie!
Julian I have a question. It’s not about the moto but about your battle wagon rzr. I recently purchased a 2020 turbo xp that has stage 3 everything. Tuner, clutches, exhaust, etc…. If I remember correctly yours was stage 3. My question is, did you keep the tuner on stage 3 the whole time when riding and what parts broke the most???? My buddies and I are waiting for you to come back to wv to show you more trails.
Hey man. Can’t wait to get back to WV! I’ve never changed the tune since I installed the AA stage 3. I like the way it runs in all the various conditions we ride. It burns more fuel I feel and it makes a huge difference in performance. As for breaking stuff, the tune won’t break anything, your right foot will. You need to keep a mental note of how abusive you are being based on terrain and vehicle setup. If you ride super hard and aggressive things will wear out faster. I haven’t had any serious issues that I would say are attributed to the tune itself. Engine is running great still. I have replaced a turbo but it was due to the well known waste gate crack issue not the tune. When you add more power, you need to control how you use it. As you upgrade more and more things the shear pin or weakest link becomes the drivers self control lol 😂
@@AdrenalineJunkieProd that’s good to know. I don’t ride to hard due to my passenger is a dog lol. I was telling my best friend about your channel and that you’re in WV riding a bit. Told him I wanted to show your crew more trails. He’s said he would love to show you some trails as well. Most of these trails are made for tourists but the outlaw trails are the local trails. My family is Hatfield/Vance and we know the trails well. But I went from a 900s to this turbo and holy crap what a difference. It’s different in every aspect. I’m in love. My buddy just bought the new canam and is itching to break it in. Hopefully we can catch you next time you’re down here.
What low profile helmet do you and your wife have? And it works with your Cardo talk pack?
At 54:xx I would have lost the passenger fender. But, thats common for me, right ? 😂
LMAO! I don't think I can remember a ride we went on where you didn't decapitate at least one fender... We are all hard on equipment here... LOL!
@@AdrenalineJunkieProd I guess it will be day 3 when I keep up the tradition 🫣😂🤣
What are them two silver canisters in between the rear fender and door?
Rocket launchers… well that’s what I call them, lol. One is the engine air intake and one is the transmission air intake. They look stupid and are probably one of the weirdest design features on this machine. I plan to get rid of them. They look so odd and everyone always asks about them. Multiple ppl have asked me if they are speakers.
@@AdrenalineJunkieProd I thought they were speakers to be honest lol. Yea it's kind of a goofy setup. When your rear fence was rubbing on the wall I thought you were going to hit them to and break it.
@@ayost62 ya, there are quite a few odd choices when it comes to the styling of these machines in my opinion. I feel that if cfmoto could really nail a visually appealing design in the next model sales would increase even more. I wouldn’t be upset if I ripped off my rocket speakers lol 😂
Price of tires that seams pretty silly .
Is Part 2 out?
Ya, all the videos from this series are out. Just check the RUclips Channel.
Those machines are really doing well. 👍.
Ya, they have been doing great. Let’s see how they hold up after a few adventures like this.
You look lost without Corny with you lolol
Ya, it sucked not having Corny along. Hopefully we can get him out on the next adventure. Sometimes schedules just don't line up.
@@AdrenalineJunkieProd you should drag all them boys up there to do that big 24hr GPS run you and the wife did when it comes around again and do it in the CF this time...😉😉😉
@@kochykoo A bunch of us did the Dacre Rally again this past summer. I just haven't edited the video yet. I don't know if I would do it in the CFMOTO. I'll be doing it again next year and I'll likely be doing it in the #BattleWagon again.
@@AdrenalineJunkieProd well get busy slacker... We need context lol. Chicken if your going to be a ambassador for CFMOTO you gotta take one for the team and make it or break it. Maybe we need to paint it green and make that beast Corny show you how to do it 🤣😂🤣
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Race In Paradise Ken Block!
You're much more likable guy
I like cfmoto uforce
Kinda sad that in today's world you have justify and explain everything, to keep the nay sayers from bitchng. Burn your tires, burn your helmets. It's your decision. Lol
Awesome videos btw. Than you!
Glad you enjoy the videos man. Ya, obviously you understand why I have to say some of the things I say… Theres lots of messed up things in society around us, I do my best to keep as much of that real world drama out of my riding world as I can. Don’t worry, no one is gonna stop me from killin all the tires I can, lol.
Sorry but it reminds me of a couple lawnmowers going up and down hill.
Lmao, no need to be sorry. Think I could get a mower deck attachment?
Who's first ??
Not you this time. You're the first loser today, lol! You were the winner on day 3 though 😉 Everyone will know why when the day 3 video comes out.
Mike, it’s always me 😂
@@kseniiajasinski you have an unfair advantage 😉😁
Motor mouth, after 15 minutes mute, even when riding alone !
You might think I’m a motor mouth but boy oh boy would these videos be boring if there was no commentary or story. The feedback is appreciated though. I like knowing what ppl think. It helps me improve the videos. It’s hard to make a video that everyone likes. Some ppl enjoy the commentary and some don’t. I’ll be posting an action cut of this trip once I release all the video for those who just enjoy the ride content and don’t like the rest.
I think I remember you,you used to make great videos. Just part time now? Well at least you're cf moto fan boys are happy lol.
Huh? Not everyone like every machine. Some like can-am, some Polaris, some Kawasaki and some like CFMOTO. The reality is that the market is full of various machines and I’ve always loved anything with an engine and wheels. It’s hard to make content that everyone always loves. Naturally there will be certain videos you like more than others. It’s got. I thing to do with CFMOTO fan boys because when I make Polaris heavy content others come out and call me a Polaris fan boi. If I got a can-am or Kawi then I’d be a different fan boi. The reality is I’m not brand biased, I just like to ride various machines and create content doing so. Too many ppl think there is some sort of underlying game plan here… there isn’t. My only goal is to make more content and improve with every video.
I'm not a CF Moto fan boy. I'm happy😁
@@newyorkmike40342 i actually have the same rig as you, at least you didn't sell out 😆
CFMOTO full off shit
Trying so hard to make it look good lol 😂
Trying to make it look good “visually” may be a bit of a challenge but so far the machines have been working well. We will see how they hold together in the longer term.
It's just not believable to me. You rag on can ams but gush over Chinese junk? Feels like shilling
Skip atleast the first 15 minutes. it's a commercial. You welcome
Its not a commercial. Its me helping support the people who support me and make this channel and all the videos possible. RUclips is a team sport. I could not pull this off alone. I make this content full time and as viewers you get to enjoy it for free. I focus on being transparent and unbiased. The reality is that creating the content takes a ton of time and resources. Please be considerate to this before you go making comments like that. It's not a commercial. We literally install a bunch of new parts and spend the next 3 days testing them. A lot of people are interested in the products we discuss because it helps them make decisions on what to buy.
Rude. That's the first word I think of and the only one I'm going to type in these comments. I just checked out your "channel." " Skip the whole channel" is what I'm saying. The first 30+ minutes of this video give a tiny bit of Insite into what it takes to make this happen. You obviously have no clue what we do or how we do it. From any part of the riding we do, to any part of the filming. Again I looked at your videos and, yea. SKIP. I'm not going to type any other words in fear of being offensive. Just keep skipping and we'll keep riding, and upgrading, and repairing, and filming, and spreading knowledge of what we do and how we do it. AND EATING. Cause Blake gotta eat !!
@@newyorkmike40342 Thanks brother! Let the haters hate. Can't make everyone happy. You raise some good points though, a lot of people simply don't understand the amount of planning and work that go into creating content like this. The people who make the harshest comments usually know the least about what they are commenting about. I try to look for the positive in all comments though because you can often learn a lot more from criticism than compliments. Can't wait to see you out on the trails again man, maybe we can upset some more people together in the next video... LOL!
@AdrenalineJunkieProd Don't threaten me with a good time!! Love ya brother. See ya in the next video !!
Love the vids bro I'm only seeing the cf moto weak in the suspension and clutch and with the aftermarket getting better I get it now I am sold and when I can afford it soon I will get one I love how you stress the family aspect which is my thought
Do they come in 1000 😂
Great video well done goahed🔥 zforce is aswam and we need more videos with him ike this and like mud a bigger mud tires 33 34 inches and hill climb and more things keep going like this🫡