Well done ..I've been plastering 54 years ..your system is OK n it works ..I just use a Primer then butterfly patch ..no tape required then plaster of Paris base coat n fast set finish then polish ..same result ..just much quicker . But end result is perfect ...just like yrs
Same here but i trace the butterfly with a blade to score the paper so i can inlay the edge. Makes it so you have to do less build and feathering. Easier to get it flat of it starts flatter lol.
Thanks for the tip my good man! I’m a painter and work for a maintenance company and all we do is use 20 min hot mud for water damage or repairing failing old paint. By far I tried this today and man no more dust and leaves it nice and smooth!
@@agdryicecleaning9425 so this only works for small patch? i have a whole bathroom to do , its already dried but can i still apply same technique of wetting wall with sponge then sanding or no??
@@Eastbaypisces yes you can read the instructions on the product you are using. If you watch the video you can see I'm making a barrier between the paint and mud. Water and water will just mix so its crucial to have that barrier. Does that make sense? No wrong way to do something its all trial and error
30 minutes is excellent time for a patch you don’t have to come back to. We all have our ways of doing a patch. I’d have my mesh tape, 5min mud, my favorite angled sand sponge, curved 10 inch drywall trowel and my zipwall pole with a clamp light on it. Mix the 5 put it on my trowel clean my pan. I go around the perimeter with my drywall trowel (it puts a nice feather edge around the patch) and build up a little deep in the middle. Wait for the “sweet” time and scrape as level as I can with the back of my trowel. I use my sand sponge that I keep soaked in water, spray the patch with a water bottle , sand it, knife it and done.
If you read the box or bag it specifically says not to dry sand. People can have an issue with it if it does not have a barrier between paint and mudd hence the primer. Thanks for watching and comment.
@@agdryicecleaning9425 i'll have to read the box. I think guys like the dry sanding because it just speeds everything up, no need to wait for it to dry again. Have you ever mixed quick set with all purpose to get a slicker mud as second coat for filling in any voids? Trying to experiment with mixing different mud types to refine and figure out ratios/drying times.
Can I knock off the edges with a 6 inch knife even if the mud is like several days dry or does that only work if it’s only semi-dry, like an hour? I was kidding my bathroom because it was just all tore up and I was painting my room and my bathroom, and there’s a large area I wanted to mud and I just did a bad job but I learned as I went on, I did a few very difficult areas and did them really well, but that large area I have to re do. Basically I did a large swath as my first part and then I came back to it and tried to add more mud to it and I guess it was too far into the drying and it just peeled the hell out of what was there and no matter what I did it just kept getting worse so I decided to leave that section alone and just let it dry and I’d just sand it and redo it.
Interesting. I've not had good results from wet sanding. Your technique is very different than how I was taught. I'm going to give this a try next time. Wish I'd seen this video yesterday when I was patching drywall.
It is an educational video so I wanted it to be visible, of course you do not need to make it so large but in some cases if you want it perfectly flat then it does not hurt. I mean your adding a short period of time and perfection is more important then a few extra minutes.
Also you should be painting the entire wall and priming the patch with oil before paint. If you do not add oil based primer you will get flashing. Most walls are not perfectly smooth so Im catching up the patch to years of paint make sense?
The interior paint is water based when you add water on top of water it will slide loose when wet sanding if oil based primer wasn't used to cover existing old paint. Make sense?
@@agdryicecleaning9425 maybe also explain a bit where you put the preassure on the blade when applying and removing the mud. people who haven't done alot of mudding and don't know alot about the tools will see the video and think they move the knifes around the spot all flat against the wall 🙂 looking foreward to seeing more vids!
@@christopherrockel2676 pressure is applied in many ways from ge tile to all your strength. I use 2 fingers one on each side of handle to get the correct flex an pressure on knife. Always buy professional knifes as they won't be bent from the start
Interesting method, I'm really curious to see how it looks after it was primed and painted, is there a video on that. You think if it was a satin or semi gloss the wall repair still wouldn't be noticeable?
a lot of unnecessary steps and why didn't you fill in the cracks with 20 before you taped it i dont think you needed to go that big for a small patch like that and you coulda got the same finish in 2 coats seems like a big waste of time
So, is this method somewhat like concrete finishing, in that timing is everything? If the hot mud cures from the inside out, I can see how you could wait until the mud is almost dry, they drag the blade across with some force without disturbing the mud below. I assume you had to mix mud at least twice using 5 minute.
The mudd becomes hard enough that you can remove large imperfections timing is important as if you wait to long it will become to hard to play with. No remix of mudd you have to be fast and confident.
I've been watching YT all afternoon and when I watched this particular one, I thought for sure you made a silent video. Please make a sound check next time before hitting record.
@@agdryicecleaning9425 thanks I been trying to find the most time efficient methods experimenting with hot mud and what not but it doesn't sand well. Good ole plus 3 sands great and leaves a nice finish but takes forever to dry
Yes will work on new drywall and yes I dont dry sand anything. Be cautious cause you can damage the new drywall if you get it to wet, the paper on the rock will start to frea
Nice! I patch and paint walls for a living and love adding new techniques- and anything to reduce dust is GOLD ! Question: what happens if I use water based primer ?
You are putting plaster on and taking it away what the purpose if I was there I will show you how to do it right sorry about that you need more practice Experience I have 35 years plus
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I’ve never seen anyone do this,absolutely great job I’m impressed my friend
Happy to help.
Well done ..I've been plastering 54 years ..your system is OK n it works ..I just use a Primer then butterfly patch ..no tape required then plaster of Paris base coat n fast set finish then polish ..same result ..just much quicker . But end result is perfect ...just like yrs
Same here but i trace the butterfly with a blade to score the paper so i can inlay the edge. Makes it so you have to do less build and feathering. Easier to get it flat of it starts flatter lol.
Thanks for the tip my good man! I’m a painter and work for a maintenance company and all we do is use 20 min hot mud for water damage or repairing failing old paint. By far I tried this today and man no more dust and leaves it nice and smooth!
Glad it was helfull to you.
@@agdryicecleaning9425 so this only works for small patch? i have a whole bathroom to do , its already dried but can i still apply same technique of wetting wall with sponge then sanding or no??
@@Eastbaypisces yes you can read the instructions on the product you are using. If you watch the video you can see I'm making a barrier between the paint and mud. Water and water will just mix so its crucial to have that barrier. Does that make sense? No wrong way to do something its all trial and error
30 minutes is excellent time for a patch you don’t have to come back to. We all have our ways of doing a patch. I’d have my mesh tape, 5min mud, my favorite angled sand sponge, curved 10 inch drywall trowel and my zipwall pole with a clamp light on it. Mix the 5 put it on my trowel clean my pan. I go around the perimeter with my drywall trowel (it puts a nice feather edge around the patch) and build up a little deep in the middle. Wait for the “sweet” time and scrape as level as I can with the back of my trowel. I use my sand sponge that I keep soaked in water, spray the patch with a water bottle , sand it, knife it and done.
Wet sanding is the best way to feather edges perfectly.
If you read the box or bag it specifically says not to dry sand. People can have an issue with it if it does not have a barrier between paint and mudd hence the primer.
Thanks for watching and comment.
@@agdryicecleaning9425 i'll have to read the box. I think guys like the dry sanding because it just speeds everything up, no need to wait for it to dry again. Have you ever mixed quick set with all purpose to get a slicker mud as second coat for filling in any voids? Trying to experiment with mixing different mud types to refine and figure out ratios/drying times.
Just remodeled my n my master bathroom . Using wet sanding. I will be using it from now on. Got the smooth look I wanted, drying didn’t take long
Can I knock off the edges with a 6 inch knife even if the mud is like several days dry or does that only work if it’s only semi-dry, like an hour? I was kidding my bathroom because it was just all tore up and I was painting my room and my bathroom, and there’s a large area I wanted to mud and I just did a bad job but I learned as I went on, I did a few very difficult areas and did them really well, but that large area I have to re do. Basically I did a large swath as my first part and then I came back to it and tried to add more mud to it and I guess it was too far into the drying and it just peeled the hell out of what was there and no matter what I did it just kept getting worse so I decided to leave that section alone and just let it dry and I’d just sand it and redo it.
Interesting. I've not had good results from wet sanding. Your technique is very different than how I was taught. I'm going to give this a try next time. Wish I'd seen this video yesterday when I was patching drywall.
It seems like more time but it is not. I can do this same patch in 20 min this is just to show the process
Dude how many time are u going to pass tha 12 knife lol
It's an educational video Fernando I'm not performing a repair at a customer's house.
I've watched this vid multiple times and will try it
Thank you for sharing honey!
Thank you...
Let me know what you think.
😁 thank you. a different way to reduce dust
Glad to help!
Why did you increase the size of the repair area . Good technique but keep it to the smallest area possible
It is an educational video so I wanted it to be visible, of course you do not need to make it so large but in some cases if you want it perfectly flat then it does not hurt. I mean your adding a short period of time and perfection is more important then a few extra minutes.
Also you should be painting the entire wall and priming the patch with oil before paint. If you do not add oil based primer you will get flashing. Most walls are not perfectly smooth so Im catching up the patch to years of paint make sense?
@@agdryicecleaning9425question!so we should be painting the entire wall with the oil based primer? Not just the patch area?
@@amandahartman541 just the patch
Nice job!
Craftsman. Nice work.
Why is the primer essential for wet sanding?
The interior paint is water based when you add water on top of water it will slide loose when wet sanding if oil based primer wasn't used to cover existing old paint. Make sense?
@@agdryicecleaning9425 makes sense. Thank you
This is awesome, thanks
Happy to help.
Great stuff! How long do you let the kilz dry? Thanks for a good contribution
The kilz dries fast about 15-20 min. Helps if you have good air circulation or a fan.
About 15 minutes, best to have circulation and or a fan helps.
would be nice to get the time inbetween the different steps
I will try to do a better job I love constructive, accurate criticism...
@@agdryicecleaning9425
maybe also explain a bit where you put the preassure on the blade when applying and removing the mud.
people who haven't done alot of mudding and don't know alot about the tools will see the video and think they move the knifes around the spot all flat against the wall 🙂
looking foreward to seeing more vids!
@@christopherrockel2676 pressure is applied in many ways from ge tile to all your strength. I use 2 fingers one on each side of handle to get the correct flex an pressure on knife. Always buy professional knifes as they won't be bent from the start
Interesting method, I'm really curious to see how it looks after it was primed and painted, is there a video on that. You think if it was a satin or semi gloss the wall repair still wouldn't be noticeable?
With the use of oil based primer it will be invisible that is the point. I guarantee all my work with 10 year warranty.
a lot of unnecessary steps and why didn't you fill in the cracks with 20 before you taped it i dont think you needed to go that big for a small patch like that and you coulda got the same finish in 2 coats seems like a big waste of time
It's educational for the 10th time. I am at my own house for a educational video learn or don't learn
Steven Wright doing drywall
I challenge Steven any time.
Love the facial expression while your scraping
Jordan Face.. 😀
He was holding a fart
So, is this method somewhat like concrete finishing, in that timing is everything? If the hot mud cures from the inside out, I can see how you could wait until the mud is almost dry, they drag the blade across with some force without disturbing the mud below. I assume you had to mix mud at least twice using 5 minute.
The mudd becomes hard enough that you can remove large imperfections timing is important as if you wait to long it will become to hard to play with.
No remix of mudd you have to be fast and confident.
Graham Wallmiesterhime you’re right! Wait too long the mud dries too hard. I wish I would have watch your video before. Now my mud is too damn hard!
Just a bundle of personality (kidding). Seriously though the best drywall demo I've seen yet. Thanks for sharing this.
Thank you.
I've been watching YT all afternoon and when I watched this particular one, I thought for sure you made a silent video. Please make a sound check next time before hitting record.
👍
Was that blue sander just a regular sanding block you used on a wet surface? Curious I never thought of it
Yes just sanding block.
@@agdryicecleaning9425 thanks I been trying to find the most time efficient methods experimenting with hot mud and what not but it doesn't sand well. Good ole plus 3 sands great and leaves a nice finish but takes forever to dry
So doing this makes it to where you don't have to sand when it dries? Can I do this on unpainted Drywall? Without the kiltz
Yes will work on new drywall and yes I dont dry sand anything. Be cautious cause you can damage the new drywall if you get it to wet, the paper on the rock will start to frea
Graham Wallmiesterhime how can I make it so it doesn't damage the drywall?
@@bobgoogwin123 light pressure, use a sanding sponge.
Nice! I patch and paint walls for a living and love adding new techniques- and anything to reduce dust is GOLD !
Question: what happens if I use water based primer ?
Water and water mix. The oil is the barrier that enables you to wet sand without chunks coming off and not sticking to paint.
I think that a damp sponge would work
Waaayyyyyyyy too much mud and that patch did not need to be bussed out that far.
It's an educational video for those whom care to watch.
Feel free to make your own video.
good idea!!
dubstep sound in there run that in a filter you a have bass lmao
To each their own
So he puts on four pounds of plaster and then removes three pounds of plaster.
He is stupid did all wrong
He took a small patch and made a big job out of it...no need to make that big a mess
I’ll try it.
How did it work for you?
Skills
Nice and flat.
easy tape in bin and use Fibrefuse
who else is here because they punched their walls
Hahaha
Are you kidding me how many days is that take you to do for a little tiny patch it take me 20 minutes 5 minute mud done
Patch took 30 min to perform. Thanks for watching
i'm pretty sure your patches look like garbage. no way you are going to make a patch look invisible in 20 minutes.
😂😂
Make sure you use clean water but don’t mix the mud too much so you get lots of lumps in it lol
No offense intended but you floated that way too far out for a 4 x 4” hole
Fortunately it wasn’t a bigger patch job.. he would have needed a second room 😮😮😮
Im glad I can continue to educate the uneducated Thanks for watching
Frankenstein tape and spackle lic.
Thanks for watching what are you refering to?
You don’t had idea 💡 what to do 😅
Educating the simpletons
That technique sucks
Right on man.. come show me how to do it I got a pile of money waiting for you
You put way too much mudd on that wall for that patch.
Thanks for watching and educating yourself.
People watching and not commenting about that super obnoxious feedback sound are much better humans than me. Totally unbearable.
Yes sorry about that we are and were amateurs my apologies.
Wth is that lol
Glad you took the time to educate yourself.
Do it with a sponge tile sponge Much sufficient For this type of work Trust me I know Why bother with a rag
I'm better then you at every single thing on this planet. I wipe floors with fools like you.
You are putting plaster on and taking it away what the purpose if I was there I will show you how to do it right sorry about that you need more practice Experience I have 35 years plus
Thanks for your input..