I also have the MBRP for my Camaro and love the sound. Had no dents on mine. Thanks for comparing the two! Confirmed that I did not overpay with another brand. Also found it very easy to clean the inside of these tips as they are very smooth and very wide all the way back.
@@thecamarochronicles9911 had now for a few weeks and I will say it again, well worth it. I painted mine with VHT black paint to hide it some. Beats having to pay such a high price for the Borla.
Any other videos like drive bye's? itched to pull the trigger on a axle or cat bat. Its this or AFE or SOLO, solo seems the quietest since it has an X before these j pipes.
Mbrp definitely sounds way better than borla. Borla $1,600 or more plus they came dented and the tips come loose and rattle just way overpriced I am definitely going with mbrp for my Camaro SS without a doubt sounds 10 times better than borla plus I'm getting new heads BTR stage 2 cam practically rebuilding the entire engine going to be one nasty mother I can't wait
You bought the wrong Borla exhaust. Why would you pay for a CF tip exhaust without doing a research? Those tips need constant adjustment due to sudden extraction and contraction during heat and cold cycles. Borla still sounds the best and on par with Corsa. MBRP, AWE, Magnaflow, Flowmaster and other brands can’t come close to Borla quality and reliability in the long run. In fact Borla makes the Camaro Performance exhausts for Chevy, they are just rebranded. Your MBRP will drone and fall apart in no time.
@@al151 the issue is their choice to rivet the metal mounting plate to the actual exhaust tip. That’s not an adjustment, that’s a pain in the ass as you have to remove the tips, old rivet, and then redo it. The screws coming loose, as I mentioned in the video, aren’t a bit deal. Loctite had helped a bit but doesn’t completely solve the issue with the screws. However I fully expected to be retightening them every so often. That being said, the the mounting bracket should have been welded onto the tips, not riveted. Poor design choice imo. Then there’s the packaging, the packaging is terrible. Borla and MBRP use the same grade stainless steel, both looked to have good welds. I don’t foresee either having trouble “lasting” over the lifetime of a vehicle they are installed on. Both exhausts had slight drone at a certain RPM. The MBRP had a lower tone, which was also my preference. The Borla is a raspier race car sound. Some will like one more than the other At the end of the day, my opinion having owned both, is that the Borla exhaust was not worth the msrp. Just my opinion based on my own observations and experience having both for a while.
Is this the race axleback. I was gonna go back to borla atak how's the real sound comparison u didn't do much of a difference review. Any drone? How bad
Little bit of drone from MBRP, louder than the Borla, but has a better tone to it. The bora isn't bad, but considering the price difference I'd recommend the MBRP unless you really want to keep the NPP valves.
Everyone has their personal preferences. I certainly wasn’t trying to tell people what they should buy, just helping people make the better choice for them. I will say I was disappointed with the quality for price of the Borla. I l’ve had a few products from them over the years and they were always top notch, not sure if I got a bad kit or if they are just slackin now but that was just my observation. The iPhone doesn’t really do a good job of capturing the difference between the two, if I had to describe them the Borla had a rhaspier race car sound where as the mbrp had a lower more “muscle car” tone to it.
The main issue wasn’t the screws. It was the rivets that borla used to hold the metal mounting plate for the carbon fiber sleeves to the actual exhaust tip were loose. The screw issue wasn’t really a huge deal
The MBRP does not retain the NPP valves, whereas Borla and Corsa both offer versions that do - for a price lol They worked ok, didn't make a huge difference in how loud the car was with my setup. I could see it working better (more like the stock setup) on a car without a full exhaust system and engine work like mine has. Most versions of these exhausts come with adaptors to stop a code being thrown if you choose one that does t have the NPP valves.
@@thecamarochronicles9911 I have a 19.zl1 head and cam, headers, X pipe into my factory cat. When I close the valve, it quiets the car a lot. It's for the neighborhood, not me. But, the factory cat seems big and heavy, so I wanted to find something better. Thanks. Real great video
@MJ C yeah understandable. I'm lucky and don't have to worry about neighbor aggro lol I just keep the rpms low when in neighborhoods to be respectful. Replacing the cat makes a huge difference in the decibel level. I have a "performance" cat which is basically just for show if someone peeps under the car lol I like the sound from the Corsa line better than the Borla, if you need/want the NPP valves I might suggest going with them. They also have a throatier sound to them. The borla is more of a higher pitched race car sound if that makes sense.
My rearview mirror camera is in the sharkfin antenna on the roof, and the reverse camera is down by the license plate. The ZL1 spoiler on my car does not have a camera in it.
@@thecamarochronicles9911 The reason why he asked that is because it seems like 2020+ Camaros and up have that configuration you just stated so did later 2019s get changed to have the camera moved into the fin compared to the spoiler? My 2019 is in the spoiler as well. Basically any 2019 camaro should have the camera in the spoiler not the fin.
@@V.VIIIBeanman all I can say is this car came stock with the reverse camera on the trunk above the license plate. The shark fin camera was a GM OEM upgrade I installed along with the GM OEM rear view mirror to enable the live view rearview mirror. When the car was put in reverse the infotainment would show the backup camera which was attached to the trunk lid (this was all stock from the day it was purchased) The rearview mirror was a full time rear camera which was an aftermarket installation using GM OEM parts from Gen5DIY which replaced the standard shark fin antenna for one with a camera. GM made a few mid-year changes to the 2019 SS models but I can’t say what those were beyond the front fascia redesign Edit: I believe the convertibles had their cameras in the spoiler. Not sure about ZL1 models
I feel the MBRP is by far the better value. But that's my opinion, some will disagree. Hope this video helped you make a decision if you were in the market
I paid over $1,000 for a Borla cat-back system for my 2002 35th Anniversary Camaro. It wasn't worth it, IMHO. Fitment was so poor I had to take the car to Midas to get it on properly.
Those Borla exhaust tips look like something a dude got off ebay for his 600cc sport bike in 2003
I also have the MBRP for my Camaro and love the sound. Had no dents on mine. Thanks for comparing the two! Confirmed that I did not overpay with another brand. Also found it very easy to clean the inside of these tips as they are very smooth and very wide all the way back.
Glad you like it! I truly believe it's the better overall value
@@thecamarochronicles9911 had now for a few weeks and I will say it again, well worth it. I painted mine with VHT black paint to hide it some. Beats having to pay such a high price for the Borla.
I just installed this on my 2024! wow this is exactly what i was looking for! thank you
I’ve got the MBRP cat back on my 2ss. Sounds phenomenal. I def like the deeper tone and throatier sound way more for a V8.
No offense but my mbrp axleback kinda drones where the borla is guaranteed not to drone.
No drone exhaust suck
Any other videos like drive bye's? itched to pull the trigger on a axle or cat bat. Its this or AFE or SOLO, solo seems the quietest since it has an X before these j pipes.
Don’t do afe!
Mbrp definitely sounds way better than borla. Borla $1,600 or more plus they came dented and the tips come loose and rattle just way overpriced I am definitely going with mbrp for my Camaro SS without a doubt sounds 10 times better than borla plus I'm getting new heads BTR stage 2 cam practically rebuilding the entire engine going to be one nasty mother I can't wait
Nice !
You bought the wrong Borla exhaust. Why would you pay for a CF tip exhaust without doing a research? Those tips need constant adjustment due to sudden extraction and contraction during heat and cold cycles. Borla still sounds the best and on par with Corsa. MBRP, AWE, Magnaflow, Flowmaster and other brands can’t come close to Borla quality and reliability in the long run. In fact Borla makes the Camaro Performance exhausts for Chevy, they are just rebranded. Your MBRP will drone and fall apart in no time.
@@al151 the issue is their choice to rivet the metal mounting plate to the actual exhaust tip. That’s not an adjustment, that’s a pain in the ass as you have to remove the tips, old rivet, and then redo it. The screws coming loose, as I mentioned in the video, aren’t a bit deal. Loctite had helped a bit but doesn’t completely solve the issue with the screws. However I fully expected to be retightening them every so often. That being said, the the mounting bracket should have been welded onto the tips, not riveted. Poor design choice imo. Then there’s the packaging, the packaging is terrible.
Borla and MBRP use the same grade stainless steel, both looked to have good welds. I don’t foresee either having trouble “lasting” over the lifetime of a vehicle they are installed on.
Both exhausts had slight drone at a certain RPM.
The MBRP had a lower tone, which was also my preference. The Borla is a raspier race car sound. Some will like one more than the other
At the end of the day, my opinion having owned both, is that the Borla exhaust was not worth the msrp.
Just my opinion based on my own observations and experience having both for a while.
Nice video!! Mine comes in tomorrow, I decided just to go with the ceramic black tips because of this video 😂
Glad I could help you with that decision! If they had that option when I purchased mine I probably would have gone that route.
@@thecamarochronicles9911 yeah had em on for a while and the sound is amazing!!!
MBRP all the way. That was a no brainer just because of the sound and then the price difference. First thing I did on my 2ss.
does it void warranty?
@nandis252 No it doesn't. As a matter of fact, the dealer installed it.
@@tuffguy87is the drone bad
Mbrp is just as good and sounds great with the ss.
@@Noir-c9k I have the race series. None at all. Lots of pops and crackles....
Beautiful shine
Is it ceramic coated?
Nice video I just purchased 2018 1SS1LE. Please forward how to get that beautiful wet look
It is ceramic coated. I just put a lot of work into it to be honest. It's also not my daily which helps
I personally prefer the borla tone a lot more but still sounds great
I love my mbrp set up on my 2018 1le. Sounds great with lth.
Is this the race axleback.
I was gonna go back to borla atak how's the real sound comparison u didn't do much of a difference review. Any drone? How bad
Yeah I agree with you
Little bit of drone from MBRP, louder than the Borla, but has a better tone to it. The bora isn't bad, but considering the price difference I'd recommend the MBRP unless you really want to keep the NPP valves.
dont get me wrong sounds great but i like the borla more
Everyone has their personal preferences. I certainly wasn’t trying to tell people what they should buy, just helping people make the better choice for them. I will say I was disappointed with the quality for price of the Borla. I l’ve had a few products from them over the years and they were always top notch, not sure if I got a bad kit or if they are just slackin now but that was just my observation.
The iPhone doesn’t really do a good job of capturing the difference between the two, if I had to describe them the Borla had a rhaspier race car sound where as the mbrp had a lower more “muscle car” tone to it.
I have the mbrp and I really want a corsa😂
Do you have a link for mbrp?
Gotta loctite those borla screws
The main issue wasn’t the screws. It was the rivets that borla used to hold the metal mounting plate for the carbon fiber sleeves to the actual exhaust tip were loose. The screw issue wasn’t really a huge deal
Does it retain the NPP open and close valve to quit it down if you choose?
The MBRP does not retain the NPP valves, whereas Borla and Corsa both offer versions that do - for a price lol They worked ok, didn't make a huge difference in how loud the car was with my setup. I could see it working better (more like the stock setup) on a car without a full exhaust system and engine work like mine has. Most versions of these exhausts come with adaptors to stop a code being thrown if you choose one that does t have the NPP valves.
@@thecamarochronicles9911 I have a 19.zl1 head and cam, headers, X pipe into my factory cat. When I close the valve, it quiets the car a lot. It's for the neighborhood, not me. But, the factory cat seems big and heavy, so I wanted to find something better. Thanks. Real great video
@MJ C yeah understandable. I'm lucky and don't have to worry about neighbor aggro lol I just keep the rpms low when in neighborhoods to be respectful. Replacing the cat makes a huge difference in the decibel level. I have a "performance" cat which is basically just for show if someone peeps under the car lol I like the sound from the Corsa line better than the Borla, if you need/want the NPP valves I might suggest going with them. They also have a throatier sound to them. The borla is more of a higher pitched race car sound if that makes sense.
@@thecamarochronicles9911 okay. Thanks. I'll look it.
MBRP ALL THE WAY🙌
the MBRP actually sounds way better than the Borla thats insane
Do you have a 2ss? If so how did you get a zl1 spoiler with the camera built into it??
My rearview mirror camera is in the sharkfin antenna on the roof, and the reverse camera is down by the license plate. The ZL1 spoiler on my car does not have a camera in it.
@@thecamarochronicles9911 The reason why he asked that is because it seems like 2020+ Camaros and up have that configuration you just stated so did later 2019s get changed to have the camera moved into the fin compared to the spoiler? My 2019 is in the spoiler as well. Basically any 2019 camaro should have the camera in the spoiler not the fin.
@@V.VIIIBeanman all I can say is this car came stock with the reverse camera on the trunk above the license plate. The shark fin camera was a GM OEM upgrade I installed along with the GM OEM rear view mirror to enable the live view rearview mirror.
When the car was put in reverse the infotainment would show the backup camera which was attached to the trunk lid (this was all stock from the day it was purchased)
The rearview mirror was a full time rear camera which was an aftermarket installation using GM OEM parts from Gen5DIY which replaced the standard shark fin antenna for one with a camera.
GM made a few mid-year changes to the 2019 SS models but I can’t say what those were beyond the front fascia redesign
Edit: I believe the convertibles had their cameras in the spoiler. Not sure about ZL1 models
Better !! plus 1/3 cost !
I feel the MBRP is by far the better value. But that's my opinion, some will disagree. Hope this video helped you make a decision if you were in the market
@@thecamarochronicles9911 which one was louder in your opinion?
Mbrp seems better. Sounds throatier
It does have more of a rumble to it. I prefer the sound of the mbrp
I paid over $1,000 for a Borla cat-back system for my 2002 35th Anniversary Camaro. It wasn't worth it, IMHO. Fitment was so poor I had to take the car to Midas to get it on properly.
Yeah I had some fitment issues with the borla. But it wasn't that bad lol still, for the money I expected better quality from borla
I never understood why Borlas tips are like that straight junk looking to me with the sleeve cover lol why would anyone like that look
Which one you end up with?
MBRP had the better overall sound.
@@thecamarochronicles9911 love u homie! Great video btw.
MBRP sounds better ..that’s what I’m gonna buy
I’ll never understand those Borla tips. So ugly.
These companies charge wayyyy to much for aftermarket exhaust. A muffler delete is the best value & not much different