Resident Evil 1.5 : A Disastrous History

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  • @TheObsessiveGamer
    @TheObsessiveGamer  4 месяца назад +15

    Thanks for watching! If you enjoy this video, give a like to assist us with the algorithm and comment below on if you preferred this version of Resident Evil 2.

  • @mr.checkyourself4672
    @mr.checkyourself4672 4 месяца назад +45

    I always felt Elza Walker still should have been a legit character.

    • @TeacherinTraining39
      @TeacherinTraining39 2 месяца назад +2

      Agreed. I also wish that most of the cool stuff from 1.5 (zombies able to climb and drop, walking while aiming, grenades, body armor, etc.) had survived to make it into 2.

    • @orlandoavalos2598
      @orlandoavalos2598 Месяц назад

      Not a fan of female characters but , agreed. She seems to fit in.

    • @jeffreybokhari6472
      @jeffreybokhari6472 26 дней назад +6

      I’m A Fan Of Both Male And Female Characters And You Should Be Too

    • @orlandoavalos2598
      @orlandoavalos2598 26 дней назад +1

      @@jeffreybokhari6472 It's cuz my wife is controlling and wont let me play games as a female.

  • @buddylee5712
    @buddylee5712 4 месяца назад +26

    More please, this was very informative. I had no idea there was this much stress and drama behind the scenes. It was definitely worth it, though. RE2 saved CAPCOM.

    • @edward18517
      @edward18517 4 месяца назад +1

      There's stress and drama throughout various titles in the series XD

    • @TheObsessiveGamer
      @TheObsessiveGamer  4 месяца назад +1

      I got Resident Evil 2's real development planned to come next! :)
      And yeah every entry seems to have had some drama to it. Just the teams way of working really haha

    • @ThisPhantomPain
      @ThisPhantomPain 4 месяца назад

      I can imagine the stress of having a product almost completely finished and being told to scrap it and start over and given less time to complete it lol

  • @STARSVeteran
    @STARSVeteran 4 месяца назад +72

    RE2 retail improvements are definitely apparent, however more zombies on screen in 1.5, and a proper police station in 1.5 were better choices IMO. Thankfully they took notes for the RE2make.

    • @TheObsessiveGamer
      @TheObsessiveGamer  4 месяца назад +23

      The RE2make really did an amazing job in bringing the best of both worlds together. Even getting the Elza costume was a nice touch

    • @ultroswuzhere
      @ultroswuzhere Месяц назад +2

      Nah, the RE2 (final game) police station was infinitely better and more interesting, and was within the lore of the game. Yeah it's cool they mixed some of that for RE2make for sure, but idk why people are obsessed with it looking so real when the Spencer mansion exists in this universe.

  • @jesusadrian759
    @jesusadrian759 4 месяца назад +27

    Although I understand the point that it seemed bland and boring, many ideas were great, such as the best Birkin design, the gorilla zombies, or that Elza and Leon's outfits will be stained with blood After one bite, though, with all the problems, it would have been fun to play that game.

  • @MICHAELTUMANGDAY
    @MICHAELTUMANGDAY 4 месяца назад +21

    Would love to see the modders finish rebuilding 1.5

    • @TheObsessiveGamer
      @TheObsessiveGamer  4 месяца назад +11

      Modders are hard at work on the leaked version of it already :)

  • @pengu6335
    @pengu6335 4 месяца назад +1

    Enjoyed the video. I've been loosely following RE 1.5 news for the past five years (I didn't know about it until around five years ago). I really hope the latest build of RE 1.5 leaks someday.

    • @edward18517
      @edward18517 4 месяца назад

      I think fans have most of what was made for it. Depending on which person working on the game you ask it was around 50-80% finished.

    • @TheObsessiveGamer
      @TheObsessiveGamer  4 месяца назад

      Thank you! Yeah as mentioned, much of it was leaked so we have probably what was made at this point. A few teams actually have worked on making it playable.

    • @pengu6335
      @pengu6335 4 месяца назад

      @TheObsessiveGamer Did they somehow get ahold of the whole game's script? My impression was most of the stuff nowadays was not actually made by Capcom themselves. It's stuff just added to the 40% build?

    • @edward18517
      @edward18517 4 месяца назад

      @pengu6335 there are different drafts of 1.5's early development. And the game was at different percentages of completion depending on which creator you asked that was working on it

  • @BigSparky1316
    @BigSparky1316 4 месяца назад +14

    Although i absolutely lo w what RE 1.5 presents with what modders have been able to build. Re2 is soooo much better lol. Resident evil is really the only games i play anymore and even when i first picked it up in 1998 it quickly became my favorite series.

    • @TheHaddonfieldRegistry
      @TheHaddonfieldRegistry 4 месяца назад +4

      I agree, there is nothing with 1.5 at all, it's got a lot of good ideas, but 2 is the best RE for a reason

    • @TheObsessiveGamer
      @TheObsessiveGamer  4 месяца назад +1

      Agreed. The final game is a game of legends pretty much and am very glad that they restarted everything to get to where we were

  • @Psycho-Thinker
    @Psycho-Thinker 3 месяца назад +3

    They should release it as “What if” like Marvel
    And create a new line of games pandering to old school fixed camera fans.

  • @rustyshackelfors3228
    @rustyshackelfors3228 4 месяца назад +17

    I may be in the minority but re1.5 looked better and has more gameplay mechanics than the original re2 and even 3. The police station looked like an actual police station. Including restrooms. And the zombies had more variety rather than the 4 or 5 in re2 original. Maybe one day. Even if it wasn’t completed

  • @natbatlightwood5288
    @natbatlightwood5288 4 месяца назад +6

    Wow, i didn't know about the connection to Zyuranger. That is freakin' awesome.
    Does that make Claire and Leon, Zyurangers. I mean it would explain the direction Leon's character took later, with the kicks and the quips.
    I am joking, but i also love this bit of trivia. That's something i did not know about RE2. That is awesome. (Also if you haven't watched Zyuranger i highly recommend it. I am Dyslexic but i was so hooked by that show i endured it.)

    • @edward18517
      @edward18517 4 месяца назад +4

      Well it's less Zyruanger and more that genre in general. He worked on things like Kamen Rider and I think also Lupin the Third. Noboru Sugimura became one of the main people spearheading the series in the time between 2 and 4.

    • @TheObsessiveGamer
      @TheObsessiveGamer  4 месяца назад +2

      Yeah Sugimura was a legend behind many major series and films with several sentei series too.
      I have seen some of Zyuranger. Hopefully I can find the full series to watch eventually

    • @TeacherinTraining39
      @TeacherinTraining39 Месяц назад

      @@TheObsessiveGamer Worth the watch. Goofy in places, but less so in others than Season 1 MMPR, and the Green intro arc is much more satisfying imo.

  • @biohazard_evil4998
    @biohazard_evil4998 4 месяца назад +9

    Believe it or not
    But chunks of 1.5 and the original draft of 2s story were reused for the remake.
    Leon started out in his civilian clothes and changing into his uniform was meant to happen in 2 as was returning to the streets after the RPD.
    Marvin’s storyline in the remake where he gets bit by Brad after his hesitation was meant for Chief Irons in 1.5 and translating his 40% Build dialogue states ‘no matter what, uniform or not you take the shot’ or something like that.

    • @TheObsessiveGamer
      @TheObsessiveGamer  4 месяца назад +1

      Yeah 2 Remake did a good job I feel taking the best of both worlds and making a stellar game. Really glad we even got the Elza costume too

    • @MoccaDeShibe
      @MoccaDeShibe 2 месяца назад

      They even got marvin chilling on a sofa for most of the RPD segment just like 1.5 version of chief irons.

  • @bobafett4265
    @bobafett4265 4 месяца назад +7

    This version of original Resident Evil 2 definitely had some cool ideas on the table, such as the enemy variety and altered characters from the final.
    I especially think seeing Annette Birkin being infected with the G Virus would've been a hype boss encounter most wouldn't have seen coming.
    Not to mention the cut Man Spider Enemies were reused and reworked as the Reaper Bug things Resident Evil 3 which were quite infamous for being able to one shot you if they got close.
    All in all I'm looking forward to the next part of the beta and development of Resident Evil 2. Such fun, can't wait.

    • @edward18517
      @edward18517 4 месяца назад +2

      Those are Drain Demos and I don't recall the Man Spiders being reworked into them. Reapers are in 5. Satoshi Nakai did have ideas for a man-spider hybrid enemy for 0 though.

    • @TheObsessiveGamer
      @TheObsessiveGamer  4 месяца назад +1

      Were they reworked in Reaper Bugs? That's gonna be interesting to look into for the eventual RE3 video I plan to do.

    • @bobafett4265
      @bobafett4265 4 месяца назад +2

      @@edward18517 Man my bad there, they are nearly identical and the series hasn't been shy from reusing past enemies like the Lickers being one of those examples. So you can see why I might have made mistake like this.

  • @RUNTCH
    @RUNTCH 4 месяца назад +4

    1.5 doesn't quite hit right imo. The police station, while interesting that it's a more modern design than retail, is really boring when traversing it. The outer Umbrella labs were fascinating though

  • @geminirebirth
    @geminirebirth 3 месяца назад +1

    John did not lock himself up in a cell, he was put in there for being drunk.

  • @Globaldisasternetwork777
    @Globaldisasternetwork777 4 месяца назад +8

    I think they got rid of this birkin mainly because he sounds like arnold Schwarzenegger

    • @edward18517
      @edward18517 4 месяца назад +1

      Nah, it was just them reworking ideas for him was all. The eyeball was added to give him a defining feature.

    • @TheObsessiveGamer
      @TheObsessiveGamer  4 месяца назад +1

      As hilarious as that is, the eye all feature is the reason indeed for the major change

  • @DoodlesGaming
    @DoodlesGaming 4 месяца назад +9

    Second view and one of my favorite gaming topics too, excited for this.

  • @BubbleGumIsCute
    @BubbleGumIsCute 4 месяца назад +3

    Oh… this is amazing. I love hearing about beta content, especially if it’s horror games! I would like to see more videos like this.

    • @TheObsessiveGamer
      @TheObsessiveGamer  4 месяца назад

      Thank you very much! I got three other RE videos too if interest and plan to do Silent Hill eventually as well

    • @BubbleGumIsCute
      @BubbleGumIsCute 4 месяца назад

      @@TheObsessiveGamer Ahhhhhh! Happy stimming! Resident evil and silent hill were a big part of my childhood so I’ll definitely check those out! Thank you so much! May I suggest you check out clock tower on PS1? I’m not sure if it has beta content but if it does I bet it’s really interesting! If you did release a video like that I recommend doing it when clock tower rewind comes out on switch so that way you get more views.

  • @ubernoobage3548
    @ubernoobage3548 3 месяца назад +2

    Honestly at the time, I was super hyped for the 1.5 version pics that were being advertised in the run up to release. When i got RE2 and played it on day one, I was pretty disappointed that they had made it a less realistic looking setting. Switching from an actual police station look to the old art museum just felt a bit too ostentatious. You can tell that the original police station design was based on movies like Terminator 2, Demolition Man and even Aliens and so it had a big screen feel to it. Watching this, it kind of makes me think that the original director was basically hamstring by older colleagues who didn't want him to eclipse them. I doubt he would have, but I will forever want to see what the original version could have been with full FMV and stuff. I've played the mod version, but they really didn't try and finish the bits that weren't already close to being finish and so it's hard to judge 1.5 based on that version alone.

    • @PointReflex
      @PointReflex 3 месяца назад +1

      The modded version comes from the 40% build which when it was leaked it state was so unfinished that no room was interconnected and you couldn't run it on the PS1, to this day the obviously more complete and functional 70%+ version is still in the dark, probably existing as "lost media."
      As for your expectations for "FMV" if my memory serves me there were none planned, so see it like RE Survivor's cut scenes made with the in game graphics.
      Finally I totally agree with the RPD looking more interesting in its original form, specially since its revision looked like the Arklay Mansion once again, furthermore the amount of chaos in the offices and the layout of the building (not to mention been way more believably as a Police Station than its later revision) made the place look like a long and gruesome battle took place, with an area that big and with such amount of monsters, the odds of surviving that mess easily came to none.
      Then again we might never know for sure how the whole story line in the game would play, because of this all of what we have is a very early review build, patched by the community and some interviews and small bits of facts. It more than likely end like that since.

    • @Psycho-Thinker
      @Psycho-Thinker 3 месяца назад

      The 80% build that wasn’t leaked yet
      My child dreamy persona wants to believe that it contains FMV and Voice acting.
      But to think realistically even before 3 months of the release I don’t think they finished up any FMV or Voice acting😊

  • @solid_fire9388
    @solid_fire9388 3 месяца назад

    great videos on RE man keep em coming

  • @sonicmoore6196
    @sonicmoore6196 4 месяца назад +1

    RE2remake actually had a lot of fun 1.5 features which is pretty cool!

  • @zonesproductions
    @zonesproductions 4 месяца назад

    I love that the game I always wanted to try for over 25 years has been found and put back together in a playable state. It's quite amazing. I first heard about Resi 1.5 when the Internet was introduced at school in 1999.

  • @Vulpas
    @Vulpas 4 месяца назад +11

    Capcom could take it in just by finishing 1.5 up and releasing it. A lot of the work is done.

    • @TheObsessiveGamer
      @TheObsessiveGamer  4 месяца назад +7

      As an alt universe storyline, I think it'd be a good idea. Make it cheap cause of it being lackluster and reusing assets at that

    • @Vulpas
      @Vulpas 4 месяца назад +2

      ​@@TheObsessiveGamer Yeah, a full $70 release definitely wouldn't fly. $40 would probably be theMax, but $20 would be most palatable.

    • @TheObsessiveGamer
      @TheObsessiveGamer  4 месяца назад +3

      @@Vulpas This or even could include it in a RE2 remaster if they wanted to go back and give it an update treatment the way they did for RE1 on DS.

    • @biohazard_evil4998
      @biohazard_evil4998 4 месяца назад +3

      That’s if Capcom still have the final 70% build of 1.5, knowing them they don’t… they don’t have the original coding for CVX plus other games

    • @leeweesquee
      @leeweesquee 4 месяца назад +1

      I'd consider it an alternate universe, a "what if". For me, Resident Evil died when Raccoon City died

  • @Electrical.Perspective
    @Electrical.Perspective 2 месяца назад

    In the hospital watching this. Thanks for all the cool episodes while I’m in here😅

    • @TheObsessiveGamer
      @TheObsessiveGamer  2 месяца назад

      @@Electrical.Perspective your welcome! Hope you feel better and make a speedy recovery :)

  • @MisterN1
    @MisterN1 2 месяца назад

    I just played through a lot of the RE1.5 mod project and I can safely say I'm happier with the final product. However I would love to see a mod that blurs the lines between beta content and final content. I wanna see a mix of the RPD from 1.5 and 2. A big issue though with 1.5 is some of the environments being a little too much like a real police station. A mix of the two would balance things out and feel more immersive while keeping that wild and weird charm of RE. That explains why the remake added a lore explanation for why the police station is not like a police station at all since it was a museum.

  • @edwardalexander2193
    @edwardalexander2193 2 месяца назад

    I wish they had kept the Modern police station design, to me it definitely felt more like a realistic police station. Maybe they could have expanded it a bit more and added some more dangerous places for players to explore. I did like how in the 70% build that was released a while back it shows how the lobby which is a sort of safe place later on gets overrun by zombies breaking through the gate keeping them out. Giving players the feel of no where is safe. Would have loved to see how Raccoon City in 1.5 differed from the released version

  • @ThotdFan127
    @ThotdFan127 4 месяца назад

    8:30 both characters fight Birkin in the Factory. As for the lab fight it's likely both chracters do that fight as well.

  • @Chigurh007
    @Chigurh007 4 месяца назад +1

    Great video, love your chanel

  • @DavidBlaiseSGaela
    @DavidBlaiseSGaela 4 месяца назад +3

    I just have one thing to say was mr x or a tyrant ever planned to be in 1.5 since the beginning of its development?

    • @edward18517
      @edward18517 4 месяца назад +3

      Initially there were no plans to have a Tyrant in 2, but Kamiya insisted on a Tyrant when Sugimura came on to help redo the project. Sugimura figured that having such a strong Tyrant that was beyond what was in 1 would diminish G so they gave it a dedicated mission to be going after G. They had it in Scenario B to raise the difficulty beyond Scenario A.

    • @DavidBlaiseSGaela
      @DavidBlaiseSGaela 4 месяца назад +1

      Also one more thing to ask was about golgotha it was originally the final boss well basically the main boss of re 2 and it had wesker's face seen in some concept art like was wesker gonna come back and what change why they decide to combine william and golgotha as one concept in the final? Sorry about my english i had a smooth brain there when i type/wrote this.

    • @edward18517
      @edward18517 4 месяца назад +2

      @DavidBlaiseSGaela Golgotha was only during the concept stuff, but yeah for its "final form" it would've had a face in the tail. The names for the face were Wesker or Nicholas (who was a scientist character). If it'd been Wesker it probably was an idea they were toying around with for how he might come back.

    • @DavidBlaiseSGaela
      @DavidBlaiseSGaela 4 месяца назад +1

      The only remains of the final boss in 1.5 were two really low res screenshots from one of those magazines years ago i mean looked like it in its dog form which they kept in the final tho the model is different and not seen in the game files of 2 or whatever. the massive blob of tumor and shit we have now yeah we probably had to do more things to defeat in 1.5 instead of just shooting it while it slowly crawls closer to the player seen in the final who knows.

    • @edward18517
      @edward18517 4 месяца назад +1

      @@DavidBlaiseSGaela In general Birkin in 1.5 was going to be more animalistic throughout his forms with the fourth form in the final being the most similar to those ideas. During one of the fights they had the idea that his arm might detach and become a secondary creature on its own that you had to deal with.

  • @Globaldisasternetwork777
    @Globaldisasternetwork777 4 месяца назад

    How did you play as roy? My version doesn't let me change costumes

    • @TheObsessiveGamer
      @TheObsessiveGamer  4 месяца назад

      Oh this footage isn't showcasing playability of Roy, that's just a cutscene of Roy walking to Elza and John

  • @wraith-cat
    @wraith-cat 4 месяца назад +1

    kinda crazy how much influence kamiya kinda had on games, even though the first version of re2 wasn't good it probably influenced how the final game turned out for the better, also he would later be asked to make re4 but he was making it too action oriented so that turned into devil may cry. As a result re4 was more action-y than previous games which were more horror focused funnily enough re4 is the most popular game in the series. Also devil may cry is also super popular and basically pioneered the stylish action genre, even if that mainly picked up with dmc 3 (kamiya only worked on the first one) whereas dmc 1 is more like resident evil with swords, even so dmc wouldn't exist without kamiya.
    also unrelated to any capcom stuff, bayonetta is in smash bros and a popular choice for the ultimate dlc was dante (a kamiya character) and also obviously him and some others formed platinum games which was obviously successful with like nier automata and metal gear rising (even though kamiya wasn't really involved in them) anyways sorry if this is not related at all basically what i'm saying is i think it's pretty epic how resident evil 1.5 sucked goodb ye

    • @edward18517
      @edward18517 4 месяца назад +1

      God how I wish Kamiya's story for 4 bad been what they generally went with for the final version x_x

    • @TheObsessiveGamer
      @TheObsessiveGamer  4 месяца назад +1

      Yeah I actually have a Resident Evil 3.5 (or a complete RE4 video) that goes over Kamiya's version that became DMC.
      As happy as I am that both DMC and the final version of RE4 exists, I do wish we got more of DMC story used in RE5 properly

  • @JC-uq5ki
    @JC-uq5ki 3 месяца назад

    Its amazing how many times they messed up the whole horror game part of this franchise. funny cause now each Re game is more actiony then the last, something they aways wanted to do from the begining it seems.

  • @aurimasm
    @aurimasm 3 месяца назад

    Your videos kick ass keep it real

  • @alanlee67
    @alanlee67 4 месяца назад

    I dont know why producers in the 90s had such an aura and seemed to be able to helm such transendant work. Sakaguchi, kojima, miyamoto...there are no such people nowadays and the industry seems so stagnant.
    Edit: also mikami

    • @edward18517
      @edward18517 4 месяца назад

      Well for Mikami I'd say it's just that he knew how to make fun games. He's certainly not who I tend to feel made the games wholey what they were though. For 1 I'd say it's more Kenichi, and for 2 it'd be Kamiya and Sugimura.

  • @darrylnevels6141
    @darrylnevels6141 3 месяца назад

    Got 1.5 on the modded ps4 all I going to say is hard as nails.

  • @Farkas-zy8vn
    @Farkas-zy8vn 4 месяца назад +3

    Hypeddddddd!!

  • @DeeYee99
    @DeeYee99 4 месяца назад +1

    The more I watch videos on RE2 the more I get less convinced that it was only popular because of poor people not being able to afford a Playstation and can only get a N64. Lol

    • @TheObsessiveGamer
      @TheObsessiveGamer  4 месяца назад

      Now don't call me out here xP
      But seriously I only got it for N64 cause it sounded pretty fun that way as I played it after I played REmake and could have technically picked it up for GameCube if I wanted

    • @edward18517
      @edward18517 4 месяца назад

      Technically it was on the 64 (and had arguably it's best version there), but it did as good as it did mainly for being arguably the best game of the series.

  • @Globaldisasternetwork777
    @Globaldisasternetwork777 4 месяца назад

    kinda weird i make a video putting 1.5 and 2 together then this pops up

  • @andreasgrunebaum811
    @andreasgrunebaum811 3 месяца назад

    I would have clicked the likebutton, but it´s a perfect lucky 777...

  • @blueflower8214
    @blueflower8214 4 месяца назад

    I can't play this game 😂

    • @edward18517
      @edward18517 4 месяца назад

      lol well yeah, it never came out XD

  • @ugandahater
    @ugandahater 4 месяца назад

    Disliked before watching crew checking in.

    • @wtfsamusidk7574
      @wtfsamusidk7574 4 месяца назад +6

      Why

    • @TheObsessiveGamer
      @TheObsessiveGamer  4 месяца назад +6

      @@wtfsamusidk7574 You know trolls who think they're edgey for that

    • @kitsunez
      @kitsunez 4 месяца назад +4

      ​@@wtfsamusidk7574 bored children

  • @DropkickNation
    @DropkickNation 4 месяца назад

    Best channel.

  • @Starscream.84
    @Starscream.84 4 месяца назад +3

    there is a huge story behind the research of this beta, you said practically nothing in this video, inform yourself before making videos, if you want information contact me since I was part of the bioflames group

    • @TheObsessiveGamer
      @TheObsessiveGamer  4 месяца назад +6

      This is about the history of its development, not the digging up its beta.
      HOWEVER, I was planning to do that in the epilogue of the RE2 video I am planning as this is only a first of 2 parts really.

    • @edward18517
      @edward18517 4 месяца назад +1

      I do hope you've done your research for that cause you seem to get various bits skewed or wrong some of the times in your Resident Evil videos.

    • @TheObsessiveGamer
      @TheObsessiveGamer  4 месяца назад +3

      @@edward18517 First off understand its not going to be a deep dive into the uncovering of the RE1.5 beta as it's still a video on the development of the actual game, but rather more a brief overview.
      Something like that may one day get its own video but right now this is strictly about its development.
      Second, which various bits? I know RE4 had 1 which I put in the fix notes, but otherwise nothing else of note in that or RE1 or this for that matter

    • @edward18517
      @edward18517 4 месяца назад

      @TheObsessiveGamer those fix notes bits are what I was referring to so you don't need to go back and do that. The "note" may be there afterwards, but the actual videos themselves will still always have those bits in them.

    • @TheObsessiveGamer
      @TheObsessiveGamer  4 месяца назад +2

      @@edward18517 I agree, but RE1 and 1.5 didn't even have that. RE4 only had 1 of those, so it's not like you described it happening constantly in my RE videos specifically.
      Anyways the unfortunate case is that while everything is researched and looked at via many sources, unfortunately some sources can be a bit shoddy to the point of many sources repeating tha same info and think is real until some small individuals come, provide me with links and proofs of sites and articles that are not so easy to find whatsoever.
      The bigger unfortunate part really is how RUclips won't let me just patch or upload a new version of a video, thus i'm stuck with these.