A friend of mine knew Ringo from before he joined the Beatles and was around when he did join them in August 1962. He said that the truth about Pete being replaced was pretty much what Paul's quoted as saying here. Ringo was a much better drummer,, but so were others in Liverpool so that was part of it, but the main reason was that Ringo's personality fitted perfectly with the others - Paul John and Ringo were like three perfectly fitting pieces of a four piece jigsaw puzzle and Ringo completed it 100% perfectly - the four shared the same general attitudes to life, the same silly sense of humour, even a secret language, and, most importantly, they were all equally determined to succeed. Look how they all improved as musicians - compare Ringo's drumming on, for example, Love Me Do, with his amazing work on songs like Ticket To Ride, Rain and Tomorrow Never Knows within about three years. So the change turned out to be fully justified by the astounding way they ALL developed as musicians as the years went by.
History prove The Beatles needed Ringo. There is no point arguing against that. But one can still feel for Best. I am glad he got some financial reward, even if it took some time.
@@segalknievel7173 What... bands aren't allowed to change personnel? Guess you're not a fan of Fleetwood Mac then... or 90% of bands that ever existed.
@@segalknievel7173 No, I didn't miss a thing. But you missed my point. Every musician and every band has the right to decide who they make music with, and change if and when they want to (regardless of whether during, after, or before fame, if any). If you don't accept that, then you won't accept the majority of musicians and bands in the world. I'll just add that it's kind of ridiculous to comment on a video narrated by an A.I. bot who doesn't speak for Pete or anyone for that matter. I don't hear Pete complaining, he's over it, so you may as well get over it too.
He went through long years of depression and he contemplated suicide, especially during the years when the Beatles went supernova, so he wasn't an easy ride for him...not at all...
I’m glad Best got royalties from Anthology 1. I think I he deserved it. He sent McCartney a birthday greeting, offering to open for him at one gig. While it sounds like it’d get publicity, it also seems unlikely. With all due respect to Pete Best, that’d be like dating someone in high school and expecting a wedding invitation years later!
Yes. Drummers (along with the bass guitar) form the rhythm section, upon which the rest of a song us built upon. A band plays to the rhythm section, not vice-versa. Pete played the band, but the band (Beatled) properly played to Ringo.
@@terryriley8963 still no talent, Ringo could collaborate with other musicians as well. Pete had a drum kit which the band needed at the time,end of story
@@danielgolus4600 Pete only sounded good in those small clubs cause nobody is there to see or here the musicians sound technically perfect. It's a small club, everyone is stinking drunk and probably the band as well. Yet, Pete never landed another job with a band cause the lack of skills.
They were teenagers. They were advised to get a new drummer by industry executives. They made a hard choice, and it was the correct one. They didn't stay in touch because it was painful and awkward. It always is. And then The Beatles went on a ride they never returned from. What did you do in your teenage breakups? Nobody knew what was going to happen.
"They were advised to get a new drummer by industry executives." Not true at all. George Martin simply said that he wasn't good enough to be on the records (but could still play on the road with them), and the guys acted after that.
Wrong !!! They got Pete because he was the only one available with his own drum set so he played with the band for over a year. What motivated them to kick him out was that George Martin told them Pete wasn't good enough for recording, I think that's when they saw the opportunity to kick him out because obviously they didn't like him as a person, Ringo was a better fit because of his personality, but Both Ringo and Pete weren't professional drummers , both weren't good . But after all it didn't matter what drummer, John, George and Paul were the Real musicians ..
@@carlosvelasquez9922 George Martin wasn't the only producer that didn't like Pete's drumming. Ron Richards, Bert Kampfert, and Mike Smith also had complained about his drumming. Kampfert even took away all Pete's drums except for the snare and hi hat while recording them in Germany. Those are the recordings Bernard Purdy was later brought in to add some drums to.
@michaelharrington75 ok , but George Martín said that they could use Pete for live performances as they were doing , so he wasn't that bad . Remember that George Martin said the same about Ringo . So it's not that George Martin ever said that Ringo was a better option for recording . Of course after the fact of the Beatles' success, everyone says how great Ringo drumming is, but Ringo was just doing what he was asked for just like Pete or any other would have done to make it with the group .Any drummer would have made it with the Beatles.
@@carlosvelasquez9922 Any drummer wouldn't have done great for the Beatles. Ringo wrote the perfect drum beat for each song. He didn't play the traditional way. He added unique drum parts to their songs. Ticket to Ride, In My Life, I feel fine, Strawberry Fields Forever, Come Together, ect. All very unique and iconic beats that add to the song, and make it stand out.
I just heard some BBC recordings and thought the drums didn’t sound very tight, it turned out it was Pete playing. There’s a subtle difference between someone who is natural at doing something and someone who’s trying to do something. A lot of bands in America in the 60’s used session players in the studio players, George Martin had hired a session drummer named Andy White, that the Beatles could do whatever for performances, but for recording Pete wasn’t good enough. The Beatles had jammed with Ringo and had noticed the difference when Ringo played with them, and perhaps when Bert Kaempfert and George Martin commented that Pete wasn’t quite good enough that was the final straw. I’m glad that Pete has made some serious retirement money from the Anthology project. I think George Harrison was right in his assessment that Ringo was the fourth Beatle, just hadn’t shown up yet! The Beatles catalog and band dynamic wouldn’t have been the same without Ringo!
All of this is true, but it must be noted that Ringo made a complete hash of his first two attempts at doing a studio recording, and so George Martin insisted on going with Andy White anyway. Ringo was a more flexible and sophisticated drummer than Pete Best, but that does not necessarily mean "better." In the end, I think the main reason for switching to Ringo was just that the other three got along with him better than they did with Pete. And heaven knows, even then the terrible fights and rows that would follow within the band over the next few years showed that to be a pretty thin reason.
@@ranaway9307 that is it exactly anybody that has heard the early recordings with Pete knows that he had timing issues and how many examples do we need for people to believe it? George Martin said his timing wasn’t good Bert Kurt said his timing wasn’t good and many other people no one ever said that about Ringo Ringo is good and he’s very imaginative as a drummer.
@@fourthtunz WHAT PERKED MY EARS WAS HIS LAST ALBUM WHICH HAD ANOTHER DRUMMER FEATURED ON SOME OF THE RECORDINGS !!! YOU CAN REALLY TELL WHEN PETE PLAYED AS THE TRACK WOULD LOSE TEMPO SPEEDING UP THEN HIS ROLLS WOULD BE LATE IN THE MIX !!!
@@martinodoni8943 that’s not true you can hear his recordings along with the studio drummer. They tried to replace them with and honestly there’s not really that big difference.
When you think about it, there's no shame in being told you weren't good enough to play with Lennon, McCartney and Harrison. Few people can say they were.
I saw the Pete Best Band play a gig in Chicago probably 20 years ago. They sounded like I'd imagined the early Beatles sounded when they were a bar band in Germany or Liverpool. There was also a 2nd drummer and Pete kept 4/4 time. The rest of the band were competent and they sounded like music from the early 60's being played well.
Its simple Best was a crap drummer, Ringo was a top notch drummer. Best was quiet and didn't fit in, Ringo was a real character and the Beatles loved him. Its very simple
Ringo never played on many of the early Beatles tracks, he was not good enough at that time. They used session musicians as time cost money. Ringo never played on PS I Love You, that was Andy White.
Ringo was a rock steady machine, and despite Paul's whining at him, he kept up with every experiment the band tried. Pete was all over the road with his cadences, pacing, and fills. Listen to his work on Anthology: he has a terrible knack for going variando or accelerando. What he did have was a mother who owned a club they could gig in.
SIMPLE BEST COULD,NT KEEP TIME ,,I SEEN HIM PLAY IN LIVERPOOL ,I PLAYED IN BANDS SINCE I WAS 15 YEARS OLD,,,WE HAD NO END OF PROBLEMS WITH DRUMMERS MOST JUST COULD,NT KEEP TIME ,,, THATS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH DRUMMERS, VERY FEW CAN KEEP TIME ,,RINGO WAS A GREAT TIME KEEPER
You miss quoted George Martin. He never said anything about his looks. Looks do not make you a good musician. What he did say was that he didn't want to use him for recording. He said he never asked them to replace best. That was that. Pete best just didn't fit in. He didn't have the charisma. He did not bond with the other band members. And let's face it who wrote all the songs it made the Beatles the Beatles. It wasn't best. When they broke up he went public saying that he was replaced because they were jealous. Look at the Beatles. it had absolutely nothing to do with Pete best looks. If he was so good looking that they had to replace him why didn't his looks take him to the top and surpass the Beatles afterwards? He's embarrassed himself over the years which I'm so sorry to say it is sad. Everyone felt bad for him and he started spewing off some of this BS. He had the right to have his feelings hurt. But it was Paul by the way who reached out to give him those royalties. You guys really need to get your facts straight. There are people that don't know the truth and when you give faults quotes not only are you changing history but it's just poor reporting
That’s right Aspinal has stated over and over that Paul has thrown truth, or at least best rememberence, in the trash as he retro histories eveything, aggrandizing himself at every turn. He FOR SURE never “ reached out” to Pete at any time. The truly crappy thing about replacing Pete was the timing, Pete paid his dues in Hamburg and after they should have replaced him BEFORE they got their record deal if he was so shabby. Giving Pete the boot at the very moment the band started really happening was the worst possible timing. Paul alone is worth over a BILLION dollars he could lay 10 million on Pete on behalf of the original three and never even notice it missing but he doesn’t. Giving Pete a couple mill’s for Anthology is only fair he’s entitled to royalties on those original recordings again they are only looking out for themselves if they didn’t work out royalty terms ahead of time and gotten Pete to sign off they would have been sued after Anthology came out and most likely paid far more.
Just listen to Pete's version of Love Me Do,he's all over the place and he changes what he's playing half way through the song,I'm a musician and he definitely had to go,he couldn't even play a simple song like Love Me Do,sorry but that's the truth. Bob
@@mglb weird, I was just about to leave the exact same comment lol. I have a theory about that: I reckon that was the arrangement they'd already had in place but George Martin didn't like it so cut it out. Stowe must have been one of the few times they returned to it before eventually ditching it.
Most fans don't know the history behind the EMI recording of LOVE ME DO, but the arrangement was changed on the very day they recorded it with Pete Best, giving all of them problems. Initially, George Martin wasn't even there. The Beatles played, "Love Me Do", among 3 other songs. The engineers liked them so much they sent for Martin to come hear them. Martin listened to, "Love Me Do", and abruptly changed the arrangement, ditching the skip-beat that Pete had been playing the song with all along in the clubs. This threw Pete off, and it also threw off Paul's vocals (it's easy to hear). Engineer, Norman Smith, who worked the session said, "The problem wasn't with how Pete was playing, but rather with the new arrangement he was being told to play." I like RINGO, but we must remember the truth as Beatles fans. George Martin never said, Pete must be replaced in the band. George Martin never even said Pete would never record with the band, he simply stated that he wanted to use a session drummer for the first recording session (very commonplace).
The truth is Pete wasn't up to scratch. George Martin said he could play in gigs but not record. Besides according to George Harrison he was moody and would disappear with his girlfriend for days when they were in Hamburg. People say they were jealous because he was good looking - bah humbug ! - I think the other three needed a good musician not a poster. He can't complain he has been making money on complaining about the Beatles for years .
Of course Best was up to scratch. Wasn't he the drummer when Epstein got interested. Yes, they were always jealous of Best because he was the handsome one by far, and got the girls. As for a poster boy, his replacement wasn't exactly Elvis, they wanted a jokey clone so that suited them just fine. There were better drummers than Ringo in Liverpool at the time, one in particular who turned them down. You would be surprised to know how many famous groups never played on their records.In a gig you could probably play with no drum sticks and no-one would notice because of the noisy crowds. Best never complained about the other Beatles, he just wanted to explain his side of things and that is his right. Anyway it all turned to shite in the end.
It probably was a blessing in disguise for Pete, even if it was so devastating at the time, and for those years watching the Beatles success. If he had stayed, he probably wouldn’t have his loving family around him, as its doubtful if would have survived Beatlemania. Plus there is no way he would have survived all of those live shows with his drumming ability, especially in the stadiums of America, when they couldn’t hear each other, and he would have been pulled apart by the media. Pete got lucky (even though it can look the other way), and since the 1990’s, he’s been a millionaire rewarded from the recordings on the first Anthology album.
Pete definitely dodged a bullet, yes. He was a marked man anyway, they would have still got shot of him further down the line which would have been even more humilaiting for him.
@@georgerodrigues4638 They wanted to make the change BEFORE the Beats hit the big world picture. Because replacements don't usually go too well. Think Darrin on Bewitched.
1:44 Best never played with the Beatles again after his firing. He never saw them again. 4:33 Mona Best didn't loan the medals to John. Beatles road manager Neil Aspinal, who was living with Mona Best just picked the medals up, and took them with him for the photo shoot. I'm not sure how Ring got identical medals? No one seems to ever ask where Ringo got his medals that were identical to the ones John wore.
Ringo is the better drummer. However, if they chose to unload Pete, they should have done the noble thing and paid him for his time spent in the band. That would have been the right thing to do.
Maybe it's because working class bands have no f*****g money until they make it big. It costs money to be in a band, you don't make money until you really get somewhere.
@thechuckster6838 Why? He got paid on the gig. That's how it works in the real world. If he had written any of the songs they used he would have been paid for that. When he got fired they were the Beatles not THE BEATLES, just another unsigned band. Epstein tried to help him find another band but let's face it, he got the job originally because he had a set of drums and some time. He clearly, from the fact that he never got much better as a drummer, worked with a teacher or tried to develop more chops.
Ringo is regarded as a superb time keeper. His drumming is also extremely tasteful. Unfortunate for Best but listen to Ringo's licks even on the early recordings.
Why's he still going on about The Beatles? He was just a temporary drummer and not a very good one. If he's so accomplished, then where are all his accomplishments? The Beatles' accomplishments were made without this guy. He has no place in Beatles history.
When I first heard Ringos drumming on From Me To You on my sisters record player back in 1978, I wanted to be a drummer. Anyone who has the slightest clue about drumming knows that Ringo has a great style that fits perfectly into the Beatles. I also think that the Beatles did not handle Pete fair, but honestly...his drumming was simply not good enough. In the end they had no choice, they had to replace Pete.
mathemen3011. Ha, yeah, it was two Beatle albums I heard on MY SISTER’S new Sweet 16 record player gift she received in 1965 that did it for me! I was banging on everything and bought my first kit in 1971. My school had a fife & drum corp band, I went to sign up to be a drummer, but because of Ringo there was Zero room for more wannabe drummers, too bad! I could have started hitting actual drums at age twelve!!
As a musician I know, what a pain in the as it is, to have a drummer behind You, who can't hold the tempo. I understand, why the Beatles chose Ringo Starr.
This is an everyday story with bands, it's only a big story because of The Beatles enormous success. Pete has still done pretty well out of it, deservedly so.
Pete Best has a perverse memory of History. George Martin found Pete best drumming substandard. Paul and John already knew repeat could only do rudimentary things and many times couldn't hold the beat. When Martin suggested replacing him the other Beatles already knew who they wanted, Ringo who they were a fan of and worked with in Germany. Best lost his job because he just wasn't good enough.
I’ve heard Pete play .. he’s ok, but was sadly never going to cut it as a Beatles drummer. Ringo’s left hand drumming real suited the Beatles sound, even though non musical fans didn’t realize his left handed rolls added to the sound of the Beatles, I believe Ringo was the perfect drummer for the Beatles.
It's unfortunate getting booted out of the biggest group of all time. I know Ringo has his critics but he was THE perfect drummer for the Beatles. You have to remember...THEY asked him to join, he didn't come looking for a job. He made them a better group musically and his personality fit in perfectly. The Anthology recordings prove how weak Best's drumming was. He wasn't a good time keeper and every band HAS to have a good time keeper. Best was brought on because they needed a drummer to do those gigs in Hamburg.
Also, during the part of the video which explained that Lennon said Pete Best needed some "training" on the drums in Germany, a picture of a book appeared on screen. The title of the book had the word 'theory' in it and at first I instantly assumed it was a book about music theory, but then I saw the book's subtitle said something about "social change", nothing to do with music or the topic being discussed at all. 😂 Just a senseless shout out to social change in the middle of a part of the video about Best needing drumming lessons. Completely random! 🤷♂
Before Ringo Starr became The Beatles' drummer, he had already established a strong friendship with the band members. After performances in Hamburg, Pete would often isolate himself, while John, Paul, and George would spend time with Ringo. This camaraderie extended beyond the stage, creating a natural bond between Ringo and the other three Beatles. When the time came to replace Pete Best, Ringo was the band's clear and immediate choice. The Beatles had long felt that Ringo was a better fit, both musically and personally. Their decision was further solidified by their experiences of Ringo filling in for Pete on occasions, which demonstrated the immediate chemistry and improvement in the band's overall sound.
Wings of Pegasus has a video with audio that compares the two drummers. Pete Best loses rhythm. Ringo does not. They needed the best rhythm for recording they could get. It wasn't like they came to a sudden malicious intent to do away with Pete Best.
This gets way too much attention, just because it is about the Beatles. People come and go in bands, leave, quit, get thrown out with or without knowing, fight, don´t fit, whatever ........
Best's drumming was subpar, he wasn't a team player, and refused to get his haircut in the Beatles style like John Paul and Ringo. Firing best and hiring Ringo was the best decision they made!
Ordinary Drummer at best , didn't show up a Gigs , thought the whole Beatles thing was a joke and has spent his Life blaming everyone but himself .A Band is a Team , if you're not interested in Teamwork, there's the Door . Idiot . Ringo LEFT his OWN Band to join the Beatles , that's a Team Player . Ringo was the ONLY Beatle who was a Professional Musician and earning good Money with his own Band , he took a Chance joining the Beatles became he knew they were Special . Pete Best thought they were a Joke .He gets Zero Sympathy from me .
All you have to do is listen to the star club tapes and you realize how amazing Ringo’s drumming was. He was miles ahead of Best and John, Paul and George were only looking to make great music. Nothing else.
You know a band isn't just a band but it's a massive cultural and historical institution when people can still get many views on details like this 60 years later. No one will be doing this for pretty well any band from the past 45 years. And I love a lot of the post-punk British bands and beyond. Few even care now.
Mona did him no favors, making him appear as a hapless mama's boy who couldn't stand up for himself. I'm sure his removal from the band hurt, but under contract with Brian Epstein, he had opportunities no other drummer in those days had access to. Good to see he has a happy marriage and family and eventually received financial security with the Anthology windfall.
Amazing people thinking that Paul was jealous of Peter ‘s looks. Give me a break as Paul was always the better looking of the banda. I think they say that about Peter and Paul because Paul was young just 9 mos old than George and both of them couldn’t do a lot like Peter could. The reason about Stu too being old and acompanhe john to pubs etc
I had the pleasure of meeting and chatting with Pete Best many years ago back in the mid 80's when he worked in Old Swan Liverpool, he actually got me a job on the buses. All this bullshit about Pete being a " crap drummer " is total nonsense, Pete was a decent drummer and I think you will find there is a completely different reason why he was very unfairly sacked from the Beatles. Pete Best is a genuine and nice guy.
Most legitimate complaints don't say he's a crap drummer, they say he's barely average. His meter is inconsistent. He can only play straight time (4/4) he doesn't swing and there isn't a solid pocket. I have no doubt he's a nice guy, but having been that close to have being one of the most famous people in the world has to have left some mark on his psyche.
The stark reality is that if was Best was any good he wouldn't have needed J, G and P and could have been a success without them. History proves otherwise.
Simply, the Beatles would not have achieved anywhere near their astonishing success had Pete remained in the band. Ringo was the final, necessary ingredient, personality-wise (drum-wise, too). As George said "History shows Ringo WAS the member of the band..." After the Beatles, Pete could not, and did not, achieve ANY degree of success - despite his once-direct connection/association with the Beatles.
I agree completely. The Beatles sounded like a different band once Ringo replaced Best, a much better band. Ringo's drumming added an excitement to the sound, punctuation for the vocal phrasing, etc. Best gave them a muddy, plodding sound, in my opinion. We'll never know where an alternate reality would take us, but there's a good case to be made that Pete is better off that he got fired. Imagine The Beatles keeping Pete and going nowhere as a band. Instead, they got Ringo and took off, and as a result Pete became a millionaire simply by having been the fired drummer of a couple pre-fame years. Although I can understand his ego being hurt, monetarily and fame-wise Pete is likely much better off for having been fired by The Beatles.
They got Pete because he was the only one available with his own drum set so he played with the band for over a year. What motivated them to kick him out was that George Martin told them Pete wasn't good enough for recording, I think that's when they saw the opportunity to kick him out because obviously they didn't like him as a person, Ringo was a better fit because of his personality, but Both Ringo and Pete weren't professional drummers , both weren't good . But after all it didn't matter what drummer, John, George and Paul were the Real musicians .
The REAL reason this all transpired was that Mona became a real pain to Epstein, calling him 3X a day, bugging him to promote Pete, and still exercising some control over bookings, such as the Cavern. Best was an equal partner in the Beatles, having signed such a deal just months before. Epstein took the opportunity of the rest of the boys various complaints, to rid himself both of Pete AND Mona. Pete could have then and there voided his firing, but he didn't know his legal rights at the time with the shock of it all. By the time he regained his " balance" weeks later, it was too late, plus he received the wrong legal advice at the time.
Don’t think Pete could have done anything about his firing, legal advice or not. Brian had his solicitor legally dissolve the Band due to them “ splitting up “ then a fresh contract was drawn up when they reformed with Ringo shortly afterwards.
I really have no sympathy for Best. It happens to lots of musicians up and down the country, and the Beatles decision proved to be the right one. If Best stayed with the Beatles, they certainly wouldn't have become the huge act that they did, then we wouldn't be having these debates
I have a lot of sympathy for Best, but he never did his homework. He never said, "They threw me out, I've got to practice more, I've got to take more lessons, I've got to become a better drummer." Anyone else would have done so.
Why the pic of the BG member at about 3 min mark? No connection?? I would rather wish to claim that I was kicked out of the Beatles than any other band.
There is always another story when it comes to The Beatles. Regardless of how you feel about them, they were ABSOLUTELY a cultural tool used in ways we will never understand.
Nobody knew how great the Beatles were to become. Paul thought they would last 5 years . Who knew . Pete probably would not have been too bothered about it and maybe have gotten another band if it wasn’t for the fact that the Beatles became world famous. That’s life I am afraid
This all happened when the Beatles were just one of the many bands in Liverpool.....and this happened all the time in bands, is still happening.....just trying to find a good match.
Best never took the band serious at all ,he hardly even tryed to play good drums, and he thought the band would go nowhere he admitted to that on a TV show ,,,I've got a secret, and he had no sence of humor at all,,, and his mom , ol boy !
Not even 2 minutes in at 1:46 your facts are wrong. Pete did not show up to any gigs after his dismissal. Johnny Hutch filled in for the rest of the week until Ringo joined on Saturday.
If The Beatle had only been a one hit wonder band (with Pete having been kicked out before their one hit), no one would be saying a thing about Pete getting kicked out. It's only because The Beatles were so successful that this is even talked about. People come and go from bands, all the time, and generally nobody makes nearly the big deal out of those situations, as they do out of this one. How many people entered and exited Benny Goodman's band ? Probably lots, but no one makes a big deal about that, nor even knows about it (for the most part.) Pete's personality was a "steady as she goes" personality, and the others were more agressive, and more extroverted. Pete is a very nice chap (I've met him and talked with him a bit, and he is just like he appears on the talk shows.) But, being a nice chap didn't work in his favor. He probably was content with his looks, the girls paying attention to him, and his drumming. He probably saw no reason to change the recipe. That is where he was different from the others, and that is what ended his career as a Beatle. "Steady as she goes" wasn't the de facto mantra of The Beatles. In reality he was just one of thousands of guys that came and went, as members of rock bands. (PS: Pete's low key, friendly, nice personality has probably served him well in life. He had the patience to be a trainer, which is a form of teaching. I'll bet that he was good at that, and was well liked. He's probably an excellent father, too. Compare that with John and Julian. So, Pete did all right in life. He was an average schmoe, just like lots of us. He did alright.)
The guy who was most bothered about Best's drumming was George Martin. Epstein was a little concerned, but wanted Best to stay, because he knew his good looks would more than compensate with the audience for his limitations with the sticks, most of whom wouldn't even notice them.
A friend of mine knew Ringo from before he joined the Beatles and was around when he did join them in August 1962.
He said that the truth about Pete being replaced was pretty much what Paul's quoted as saying here. Ringo was a much better drummer,, but so were others in Liverpool so that was part of it, but the main reason was that Ringo's personality fitted perfectly with the others - Paul John and Ringo were like three perfectly fitting pieces of a four piece jigsaw puzzle and Ringo completed it 100% perfectly - the four shared the same general attitudes to life, the same silly sense of humour, even a secret language, and, most importantly, they were all equally determined to succeed. Look how they all improved as musicians - compare Ringo's drumming on, for example, Love Me Do, with his amazing work on songs like Ticket To Ride, Rain and Tomorrow Never Knows within about three years.
So the change turned out to be fully justified by the astounding way they ALL developed as musicians as the years went by.
This sounds entirely believable to me. Thank you for the explanation.
History prove The Beatles needed Ringo. There is no point arguing against that. But one can still feel for Best. I am glad he got some financial reward, even if it took some time.
Pete Best is a millionaire, and he's more famous than me, so being fired by the Beatles wasn't so bad.
@@segalknievel7173 What... bands aren't allowed to change personnel? Guess you're not a fan of Fleetwood Mac then... or 90% of bands that ever existed.
@@segalknievel7173 No, I didn't miss a thing. But you missed my point. Every musician and every band has the right to decide who they make music with, and change if and when they want to (regardless of whether during, after, or before fame, if any). If you don't accept that, then you won't accept the majority of musicians and bands in the world. I'll just add that it's kind of ridiculous to comment on a video narrated by an A.I. bot who doesn't speak for Pete or anyone for that matter. I don't hear Pete complaining, he's over it, so you may as well get over it too.
@@segalknievel7173 You missed the part where I said get over it.
He went through long years of depression and he contemplated suicide, especially during the years when the Beatles went supernova, so he wasn't an easy ride for him...not at all...
@@segalknievel7173 I don't care. Now get over it.
I’m glad Best got royalties from Anthology 1. I think I he deserved it.
He sent McCartney a birthday greeting, offering to open for him at one gig. While it sounds like it’d get publicity, it also seems unlikely. With all due respect to Pete Best, that’d be like dating someone in high school and expecting a wedding invitation years later!
Pete was a drummer who could play along with a song, Ringo was a musician who knew how to play the song.
Yes. Drummers (along with the bass guitar) form the rhythm section, upon which the rest of a song us built upon. A band plays to the rhythm section, not vice-versa. Pete played the band, but the band (Beatled) properly played to Ringo.
@@terryriley8963 still no talent, Ringo could collaborate with other musicians as well. Pete had a drum kit which the band needed at the time,end of story
@@danielgolus4600 Pete only sounded good in those small clubs cause nobody is there to see or here the musicians sound technically perfect. It's a small club, everyone is stinking drunk and probably the band as well. Yet, Pete never landed another job with a band cause the lack of skills.
They were teenagers. They were advised to get a new drummer by industry executives. They made a hard choice, and it was the correct one. They didn't stay in touch because it was painful and awkward. It always is. And then The Beatles went on a ride they never returned from. What did you do in your teenage breakups? Nobody knew what was going to happen.
Amen
"They were advised to get a new drummer by industry executives." Not true at all. George Martin simply said that he wasn't good enough to be on the records (but could still play on the road with them), and the guys acted after that.
Anthology: John said, “We got Pete Best because we needed a Drummer the next day.” As they left for Hamburg.
Wrong !!! They got Pete because he was the only one available with his own drum set so he played with the band for over a year. What motivated them to kick him out was that George Martin told them Pete wasn't good enough for recording, I think that's when they saw the opportunity to kick him out because obviously they didn't like him as a person, Ringo was a better fit because of his personality, but Both Ringo and Pete weren't professional drummers , both weren't good . But after all it didn't matter what drummer, John, George and Paul were the Real musicians ..
@@carlosvelasquez9922Ringo is great
@@carlosvelasquez9922 George Martin wasn't the only producer that didn't like Pete's drumming. Ron Richards, Bert Kampfert, and Mike Smith also had complained about his drumming. Kampfert even took away all Pete's drums except for the snare and hi hat while recording them in Germany. Those are the recordings Bernard Purdy was later brought in to add some drums to.
@michaelharrington75 ok , but George Martín said that they could use Pete for live performances as they were doing , so he wasn't that bad . Remember that George Martin said the same about Ringo . So it's not that George Martin ever said that Ringo was a better option for recording . Of course after the fact of the Beatles' success, everyone says how great Ringo drumming is, but Ringo was just doing what he was asked for just like Pete or any other would have done to make it with the group .Any drummer would have made it with the Beatles.
@@carlosvelasquez9922 Any drummer wouldn't have done great for the Beatles. Ringo wrote the perfect drum beat for each song. He didn't play the traditional way. He added unique drum parts to their songs. Ticket to Ride, In My Life, I feel fine, Strawberry Fields Forever, Come Together, ect. All very unique and iconic beats that add to the song, and make it stand out.
It’s tough getting asked to leave a band. I cried when it happened to me once. Even though I wasn’t learning their songs.
What did you expect then
I just heard some BBC recordings and thought the drums didn’t sound very tight, it turned out it was Pete playing. There’s a subtle difference between someone who is natural at doing something and someone who’s trying to do something. A lot of bands in America in the 60’s used session players in the studio players, George Martin had hired a session drummer named Andy White, that the Beatles could do whatever for performances, but for recording Pete wasn’t good enough. The Beatles had jammed with Ringo and had noticed the difference when Ringo played with them, and perhaps when Bert Kaempfert and George Martin commented that Pete wasn’t quite good enough that was the final straw. I’m glad that Pete has made some serious retirement money from the Anthology project. I think George Harrison was right in his assessment that Ringo was the fourth Beatle, just hadn’t shown up yet! The Beatles catalog and band dynamic wouldn’t have been the same without Ringo!
All of this is true, but it must be noted that Ringo made a complete hash of his first two attempts at doing a studio recording, and so George Martin insisted on going with Andy White anyway.
Ringo was a more flexible and sophisticated drummer than Pete Best, but that does not necessarily mean "better." In the end, I think the main reason for switching to Ringo was just that the other three got along with him better than they did with Pete. And heaven knows, even then the terrible fights and rows that would follow within the band over the next few years showed that to be a pretty thin reason.
@russdowns The Drummer is the Metronome of the Group !!! Listening to Pete Play on later recordings he definitely has TIMING ISSUES !!!!!!!!
@@ranaway9307 that is it exactly anybody that has heard the early recordings with Pete knows that he had timing issues and how many examples do we need for people to believe it? George Martin said his timing wasn’t good Bert Kurt said his timing wasn’t good and many other people no one ever said that about Ringo Ringo is good and he’s very imaginative as a drummer.
@@fourthtunz WHAT PERKED MY EARS WAS HIS LAST ALBUM WHICH HAD ANOTHER DRUMMER FEATURED ON SOME OF THE RECORDINGS !!! YOU
CAN REALLY TELL WHEN PETE PLAYED AS THE TRACK WOULD LOSE TEMPO SPEEDING UP THEN HIS ROLLS WOULD BE LATE IN THE MIX !!!
@@martinodoni8943 that’s not true you can hear his recordings along with the studio drummer. They tried to replace them with and honestly there’s not really that big difference.
Keeping time is important for any competent musician but for a drummer it is absolutely essential
Not only keeping time, but making it swing
i cant imagine the beatles without ringo.
When you think about it, there's no shame in being told you weren't good enough to play with Lennon, McCartney and Harrison. Few people can say they were.
I saw the Pete Best Band play a gig in Chicago probably 20 years ago. They sounded like I'd imagined the early Beatles sounded when they were a bar band in Germany or Liverpool. There was also a 2nd drummer and Pete kept 4/4 time. The rest of the band were competent and they sounded like music from the early 60's being played well.
Its simple Best was a crap drummer, Ringo was a top notch drummer. Best was quiet and didn't fit in, Ringo was a real character and the Beatles loved him. Its very simple
Well said
Were you there?
Not true. Your limited in knowledge sorry
Pete best was a technically correct drummer, ringo wasn't! He was left handed playing right handed, best didn't get on with the other 3
Ringo never played on many of the early Beatles tracks, he was not good enough at that time. They used session musicians as time cost money. Ringo never played on PS I Love You, that was Andy White.
All 3 Beatle drummers are still alive. Pete, Jimmie and Ringo
Ringo was a rock steady machine, and despite Paul's whining at him, he kept up with every experiment the band tried. Pete was all over the road with his cadences, pacing, and fills. Listen to his work on Anthology: he has a terrible knack for going variando or accelerando. What he did have was a mother who owned a club they could gig in.
SIMPLE BEST COULD,NT KEEP TIME ,,I SEEN HIM PLAY IN LIVERPOOL ,I PLAYED IN BANDS SINCE I WAS 15 YEARS OLD,,,WE HAD NO END OF PROBLEMS WITH DRUMMERS MOST JUST COULD,NT KEEP TIME ,,, THATS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH DRUMMERS, VERY FEW CAN KEEP TIME ,,RINGO WAS A GREAT TIME KEEPER
Why is there a short clip of 'Badfinger' at the 5:03 point? There is no reference to them, so it makes no sense.
The whole video is riddled with mistakes.
Pete Best should consider himself lucky to even play with the other 3 !! Replacing him was the best thing ever in the Music Industry!!
Not really
Just listen Ringo's ending on "Twist & shout"... masterstroke!!
Yes, you are right!👍 I just listened to it, I'm 60 and have listened to it a gazillion times in my life.😂
You miss quoted George Martin. He never said anything about his looks. Looks do not make you a good musician. What he did say was that he didn't want to use him for recording. He said he never asked them to replace best. That was that. Pete best just didn't fit in. He didn't have the charisma. He did not bond with the other band members. And let's face it who wrote all the songs it made the Beatles the Beatles. It wasn't best. When they broke up he went public saying that he was replaced because they were jealous. Look at the Beatles. it had absolutely nothing to do with Pete best looks. If he was so good looking that they had to replace him why didn't his looks take him to the top and surpass the Beatles afterwards? He's embarrassed himself over the years which I'm so sorry to say it is sad. Everyone felt bad for him and he started spewing off some of this BS. He had the right to have his feelings hurt. But it was Paul by the way who reached out to give him those royalties. You guys really need to get your facts straight. There are people that don't know the truth and when you give faults quotes not only are you changing history but it's just poor reporting
That’s right Aspinal has stated over and over that Paul has thrown truth, or at least best rememberence, in the trash as he retro histories eveything, aggrandizing himself at every turn. He FOR SURE never “ reached out” to Pete at any time. The truly crappy thing about replacing Pete was the timing, Pete paid his dues in Hamburg and after they should have replaced him BEFORE they got their record deal if he was so shabby. Giving Pete the boot at the very moment the band started really happening was the worst possible timing.
Paul alone is worth over a BILLION dollars he could lay 10 million on Pete on behalf of the original three and never even notice it missing but he doesn’t. Giving Pete a couple mill’s for Anthology is only fair he’s entitled to royalties on those original recordings again they are only looking out for themselves if they didn’t work out royalty terms ahead of time and gotten Pete to sign off they would have been sued after Anthology came out and most likely paid far more.
Just listen to Pete's version of Love Me Do,he's all over the place and he changes what he's playing half way through the song,I'm a musician and he definitely had to go,he couldn't even play a simple song like Love Me Do,sorry but that's the truth. Bob
Strangely enough, Ringo does the same thing on Love Me Do on the Stowe School recording from 1963. Odd. It's on RUclips. Check it out.
@@mglb weird, I was just about to leave the exact same comment lol. I have a theory about that: I reckon that was the arrangement they'd already had in place but George Martin didn't like it so cut it out. Stowe must have been one of the few times they returned to it before eventually ditching it.
@@georgerodrigues4638 that sounds like a very good and extremely relevant theory that you have come up with George!
@@mglb Ringo's transitions from verse to chorus and verse to chorus to bridge are smoother than Pete's, even on the recoding you just mentioned 🤨
Most fans don't know the history behind the EMI recording of LOVE ME DO, but the arrangement was changed on the very day they recorded it with Pete Best, giving all of them problems. Initially, George Martin wasn't even there. The Beatles played, "Love Me Do", among 3 other songs. The engineers liked them so much they sent for Martin to come hear them. Martin listened to, "Love Me Do", and abruptly changed the arrangement, ditching the skip-beat that Pete had been playing the song with all along in the clubs. This threw Pete off, and it also threw off Paul's vocals (it's easy to hear). Engineer, Norman Smith, who worked the session said, "The problem wasn't with how Pete was playing, but rather with the new arrangement he was being told to play." I like RINGO, but we must remember the truth as Beatles fans. George Martin never said, Pete must be replaced in the band. George Martin never even said Pete would never record with the band, he simply stated that he wanted to use a session drummer for the first recording session (very commonplace).
Can't help feeling badly for Pete Best but I can't imagine The Beatles without Ringo.🥺💕
I'm sure Pete Best is not the first, last or only band member to be replaced by a musical band...he did make millions...better than anything I made
They were not happy with Pete as a drummer and Ringo was a major upgrade! It was meant to be!
The truth is Pete wasn't up to scratch. George Martin said he could play in gigs but not record. Besides according to George Harrison he was moody and would disappear with his girlfriend for days when they were in Hamburg. People say they were jealous because he was good looking - bah humbug ! -
I think the other three needed a good musician not a poster.
He can't complain he has been making money on complaining about the Beatles for years .
Of course Best was up to scratch. Wasn't he the drummer when Epstein got interested. Yes, they were always jealous of Best because he was the handsome one by far, and got the girls. As for a poster boy, his replacement wasn't exactly Elvis, they wanted a jokey clone so that suited them just fine. There were better drummers than Ringo in Liverpool at the time, one in particular who turned them down. You would be surprised to know how many famous groups never played on their records.In a gig you could probably play with no drum sticks and no-one would notice because of the noisy crowds. Best never complained about the other Beatles, he just wanted to explain his side of things and that is his right.
Anyway it all turned to shite in the end.
Why did the Beatles sack Pete Best and hire you? "I was better than he was." - Ringo
It probably was a blessing in disguise for Pete, even if it was so devastating at the time, and for those years watching the Beatles success.
If he had stayed, he probably wouldn’t have his loving family around him, as its doubtful if would have survived Beatlemania.
Plus there is no way he would have survived all of those live shows with his drumming ability, especially in the stadiums of America, when they couldn’t hear each other, and he would have been pulled apart by the media.
Pete got lucky (even though it can look the other way), and since the 1990’s, he’s been a millionaire rewarded from the recordings on the first Anthology album.
And they would have used a studio musician drummer. Ringo was creative, Pete probably not. But was sad for Pete Best anyway.
Ringo made drumming look easy. It isn't.
No, just the one time. Andy White on 'Love Me Do.'@Cliff589
Pete definitely dodged a bullet, yes. He was a marked man anyway, they would have still got shot of him further down the line which would have been even more humilaiting for him.
@@georgerodrigues4638 They wanted to make the change BEFORE the Beats hit the big world picture. Because replacements don't usually go too well. Think Darrin on Bewitched.
1:44 Best never played with the Beatles again after his firing. He never saw them again.
4:33 Mona Best didn't loan the medals to John. Beatles road manager Neil Aspinal, who was living with Mona Best just picked the medals up, and took them with him for the photo shoot. I'm not sure how Ring got identical medals? No one seems to ever ask where Ringo got his medals that were identical to the ones John wore.
Ringo is the better drummer. However, if they chose to unload Pete, they should have done the noble thing and paid him for his time spent in the band. That would have been the right thing to do.
Absolutely correct!!!
So he was not paid at all. That is really bad. Very shoddy treatment.
Maybe it's because working class bands have no f*****g money until they make it big. It costs money to be in a band, you don't make money until you really get somewhere.
He got paid when he played in Hamburg.
@thechuckster6838 Why? He got paid on the gig. That's how it works in the real world. If he had written any of the songs they used he would have been paid for that. When he got fired they were the Beatles not THE BEATLES, just another unsigned band. Epstein tried to help him find another band but let's face it, he got the job originally because he had a set of drums and some time. He clearly, from the fact that he never got much better as a drummer, worked with a teacher or tried to develop more chops.
The Beatles would not have been The Beatles without Ringo Starr !! The lineup was meant to be , it's that simple . 🙂🙂🙂🙂
A GOOD drummer can make a band.
A BAD one can’t..
Im glad pete received money from the anthology 👍🏻 pete seems pretty cool.
Ringo is regarded as a superb time keeper. His drumming is also extremely tasteful. Unfortunate for Best but listen to Ringo's licks even on the early recordings.
Yes, exactly Ringo. Drumming on rain excellent.
Why's he still going on about The Beatles? He was just a temporary drummer and not a very good one.
If he's so accomplished, then where are all his accomplishments? The Beatles' accomplishments were made without this guy. He has no place in Beatles history.
Best got royalties. JUSTICE SERVED!
When I first heard Ringos drumming on From Me To You on my sisters record player back in 1978, I wanted to be a drummer. Anyone who has the slightest clue about drumming knows that Ringo has a great style that fits perfectly into the Beatles. I also think that the Beatles did not handle Pete fair, but honestly...his drumming was simply not good enough. In the end they had no choice, they had to replace Pete.
mathemen3011. Ha, yeah, it was two Beatle albums I heard on MY SISTER’S new Sweet 16 record player gift she received in 1965 that did it for me! I was banging on everything and bought my first kit in 1971. My school had a fife & drum corp band, I went to sign up to be a drummer, but because of Ringo there was Zero room for more wannabe drummers, too bad! I could have started hitting actual drums at age twelve!!
You realize you posted a photo of Badfinger, which has nothing to do with Pete best
It's close.... they got the 'Pete' bit right!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Also a picture of Barry Gibb in there at one point!
As a musician I know, what a pain in the as it is, to have a drummer behind You, who can't hold the tempo. I understand, why the Beatles chose Ringo Starr.
🎶 All we are saaaayiing......is give Pete a chance.🎶🥁
Thank You JL.
They did and he didn't work out.
@@davidmarks5400 Pete Best was the Best.
This is an everyday story with bands, it's only a big story because of The Beatles enormous success. Pete has still done pretty well out of it, deservedly so.
Pete Best has a perverse memory of History. George Martin found Pete best drumming substandard. Paul and John already knew repeat could only do rudimentary things and many times couldn't hold the beat. When Martin suggested replacing him the other Beatles already knew who they wanted, Ringo who they were a fan of and worked with in Germany. Best lost his job because he just wasn't good enough.
It was only for recording Pete was being replaced, Martin has stated this many times.
I’ve heard Pete play .. he’s ok, but was sadly never going to cut it as a Beatles drummer. Ringo’s left hand drumming real suited the Beatles sound, even though non musical fans didn’t realize his left handed rolls added to the sound of the Beatles, I believe Ringo was the perfect drummer for the Beatles.
It's unfortunate getting booted out of the biggest group of all time. I know Ringo has his critics but he was THE perfect drummer for the Beatles. You have to remember...THEY asked him to join, he didn't come looking for a job. He made them a better group musically and his personality fit in perfectly. The Anthology recordings prove how weak Best's drumming was. He wasn't a good time keeper and every band HAS to have a good time keeper. Best was brought on because they needed a drummer to do those gigs in Hamburg.
Don’t know about best but I can tell u as a guy who hires drummers for my song writing ..star is a brilliant drummer among the best in rock
The simple fact is Pete Best was aloof mean and moody. The other beatles got on well with Ringo he was a better fit personality wise. 😅
Gotta love AI videos! Why the sudden photo of Barry Gibb? He doesn't even look like Pete Best! 😂
And all those pix of tribute bands that don't look much like the real guys
Also, during the part of the video which explained that Lennon said Pete Best needed some "training" on the drums in Germany, a picture of a book appeared on screen. The title of the book had the word 'theory' in it and at first I instantly assumed it was a book about music theory, but then I saw the book's subtitle said something about "social change", nothing to do with music or the topic being discussed at all. 😂 Just a senseless shout out to social change in the middle of a part of the video about Best needing drumming lessons. Completely random! 🤷♂
Pete Best, revolutionary of rock'n'roll ... Ramones' famous beat was clearly inspired in Pete Best's way of drumming (1961)
My pride and joy is a Pete Best sign poster
It was the best decision that John, Paul and George ever made.
I thought it was classy of McCartney to make sure that Pete Best got a nice pay day from the Anthology.
Classy? A guilty conscience more like!!
@tbeau6663 Lol! Guilty for what?
Before Ringo Starr became The Beatles' drummer, he had already established a strong friendship with the band members. After performances in Hamburg, Pete would often isolate himself, while John, Paul, and George would spend time with Ringo. This camaraderie extended beyond the stage, creating a natural bond between Ringo and the other three Beatles. When the time came to replace Pete Best, Ringo was the band's clear and immediate choice. The Beatles had long felt that Ringo was a better fit, both musically and personally. Their decision was further solidified by their experiences of Ringo filling in for Pete on occasions, which demonstrated the immediate chemistry and improvement in the band's overall sound.
Wings of Pegasus has a video with audio that compares the two drummers. Pete Best loses rhythm. Ringo does not. They needed the best rhythm for recording they could get. It wasn't like they came to a sudden malicious intent to do away with Pete Best.
This gets way too much attention, just because it is about the Beatles. People come and go in bands, leave, quit, get thrown out with or without knowing, fight, don´t fit, whatever ........
I noticed that, a few times, there was a very brief inclusion of a 'modern day Beatles look-alike cover band'. What was that all about?
Best's drumming was subpar, he wasn't a team player, and refused to get his haircut in the Beatles style like John Paul and Ringo. Firing best and hiring Ringo was the best decision they made!
By far.
Ordinary Drummer at best , didn't show up a Gigs , thought the whole Beatles thing was a joke and has spent his Life blaming everyone but himself .A Band is a Team , if you're not interested in Teamwork, there's the Door . Idiot . Ringo LEFT his OWN Band to join the Beatles , that's a Team Player . Ringo was the ONLY Beatle who was a Professional Musician and earning good Money with his own Band , he took a Chance joining the Beatles became he knew they were Special . Pete Best thought they were a Joke .He gets Zero Sympathy from me .
It’s possible that the Beatles couldn’t have matched Ringo’s earnings to ask him to join earlier than they did.
All you have to do is listen to the star club tapes and you realize how amazing Ringo’s drumming was. He was miles ahead of Best and John, Paul and George were only looking to make great music. Nothing else.
You know a band isn't just a band but it's a massive cultural and historical institution when people can still get many views on details like this 60 years later. No one will be doing this for pretty well any band from the past 45 years. And I love a lot of the post-punk British bands and beyond. Few even care now.
I think that ultimately, everything worked out for the Best... ;)
😂😉👍
This man is The Best!! 🕳️
They wanted to make the change BEFORE the Beats hit the big world picture. Because replacements don't usually go too well. Think Darrin on Bewitched.
The deadline for replacing Pete was the Cavern TV recording .
No, don't think Darren on Bewitched. Darren #1 was far more popular than #2. Health issues sacked #1.
@@Mister8224 Isn't that the point I just made.???
@@marblox9300I thought you meant the opposite. Sorry.
Mona did him no favors, making him appear as a hapless mama's boy who couldn't stand up for himself. I'm sure his removal from the band hurt, but under contract with Brian Epstein, he had opportunities no other drummer in those days had access to. Good to see he has a happy marriage and family and eventually received financial security with the Anthology windfall.
It's hard to argue when so many in the industry said Pete was not a great drummer.
In Hamburg Tony Sheridan used to needle them about Pete’s playing, could probably be where the dissatisfaction started.
Incorrect. He never played again with them after getting sacked. He refused
I stopped listening to the Beatles when they replaced Pete their drummer. For me, the Beatles will always be that original lineup which was the Best.
The best lineup was Stu on bass, Pete on drums. It went downhill after all the chaos and change.
Amazing people thinking that Paul was jealous of Peter ‘s looks. Give me a break as Paul was always the better looking of the banda. I think they say that about Peter and Paul because Paul was young just 9 mos old than George and both of them couldn’t do a lot like Peter could. The reason about Stu too being old and acompanhe john to pubs etc
Why is Barry Gibb in the picture at 3:09?
He was going to be the back-up drummer if Ringo turned them down......🤣🤣🤣🤣
I had the pleasure of meeting and chatting with Pete Best many years ago back in the mid 80's when he worked in Old Swan Liverpool, he actually got me a job on the buses.
All this bullshit about Pete being a " crap drummer " is total nonsense, Pete was a decent drummer and I think you will find there is a completely different reason why he was very unfairly sacked from the Beatles.
Pete Best is a genuine and nice guy.
Most legitimate complaints don't say he's a crap drummer, they say he's barely average. His meter is inconsistent. He can only play straight time (4/4) he doesn't swing and there isn't a solid pocket. I have no doubt he's a nice guy, but having been that close to have being one of the most famous people in the world has to have left some mark on his psyche.
The stark reality is that if was Best was any good he wouldn't have needed J, G and P and could have been a success without them. History proves otherwise.
They could've had two drummers like the Allman Brothers.
In my opinion Ringo is Best and Pete will always be a Star. 🌟 😉
Pete was asked to but never performed with the Beatles after he was sacked
Simply, the Beatles would not have achieved anywhere near their astonishing success had Pete remained in the band. Ringo was the final, necessary ingredient, personality-wise (drum-wise, too). As George said "History shows Ringo WAS the member of the band..." After the Beatles, Pete could not, and did not, achieve ANY degree of success - despite his once-direct connection/association with the Beatles.
I agree completely. The Beatles sounded like a different band once Ringo replaced Best, a much better band. Ringo's drumming added an excitement to the sound, punctuation for the vocal phrasing, etc. Best gave them a muddy, plodding sound, in my opinion.
We'll never know where an alternate reality would take us, but there's a good case to be made that Pete is better off that he got fired. Imagine The Beatles keeping Pete and going nowhere as a band. Instead, they got Ringo and took off, and as a result Pete became a millionaire simply by having been the fired drummer of a couple pre-fame years. Although I can understand his ego being hurt, monetarily and fame-wise Pete is likely much better off for having been fired by The Beatles.
They got Pete because he was the only one available with his own drum set so he played with the band for over a year. What motivated them to kick him out was that George Martin told them Pete wasn't good enough for recording, I think that's when they saw the opportunity to kick him out because obviously they didn't like him as a person, Ringo was a better fit because of his personality, but Both Ringo and Pete weren't professional drummers , both weren't good . But after all it didn't matter what drummer, John, George and Paul were the Real musicians .
Ringo was a professional drummer. He played with the top groups in Liverpool before the Beatles asked him to join them.
@@peterwilson9165correct, he packed in his apprenticeship just months from its completion to go professional.
The REAL reason this all transpired was that Mona became a real pain to Epstein, calling him 3X a day, bugging him to promote Pete, and still exercising some control over bookings, such as the Cavern. Best was an equal partner in the Beatles, having signed such a deal just months before. Epstein took the opportunity of the rest of the boys various complaints, to rid himself both of Pete AND Mona. Pete could have then and there voided his firing, but he didn't know his legal rights at the time with the shock of it all. By the time he regained his " balance" weeks later, it was too late, plus he received the wrong legal advice at the time.
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Don’t think Pete could have done anything about his firing, legal advice or not. Brian had his solicitor legally dissolve the Band due to them “ splitting up “ then a fresh contract was drawn up when they reformed with Ringo shortly afterwards.
I really have no sympathy for Best. It happens to lots of musicians up and down the country, and the Beatles decision proved to be the right one.
If Best stayed with the Beatles, they certainly wouldn't have become the huge act that they did, then we wouldn't be having these debates
I have a lot of sympathy for Best, but he never did his homework. He never said, "They threw me out, I've got to practice more, I've got to take more lessons, I've got to become a better drummer." Anyone else would have done so.
I wish there were actual clips of interviews- not just an array of stock photos.
If there were interviews then there wouldn’t be so many inaccuracies in this video.
Why the pic of the BG member at about 3 min mark? No connection?? I would rather wish to claim that I was kicked out of the Beatles than any other band.
Tired of hearing this guy whining. The only person to make a living from being fired.
That’s probably where any hate stems from.
There is always another story when it comes to The Beatles. Regardless of how you feel about them, they were ABSOLUTELY a cultural tool used in ways we will never understand.
This has AI written all over it !
Yeah it makes me sleepy!🥱🙄😂
Accurate it isn’t.
Finaly any words of Pete Best.Thanks for loosing my times.
Pete Best did NOT play any more gigs after he was fired
Had he done so, they would have told him why they were getting Ringo in.
Why are they showing a picture of Barry Gibbs at 3:08?
Best wasn’t the Best !! Hence the outcome
Best wasn't the best. He was a grifter who landed lucky when the anthology album was released
Karma will bring justice for Pete Best.
I dont think Ringo was ever described as a powerhouse.
Nobody knew how great the Beatles were to become. Paul thought they would last 5 years . Who knew . Pete probably would not have been too bothered about it and maybe have gotten another band if it wasn’t for the fact that the Beatles became world famous. That’s life I am afraid
What is with the picture of Barry Gibb?
Please Please Me, Andy White on the Trap Kit, No Pete Best or Ringo Starr, Sir George Martin knew what he was doing.
Ringo played on PLEASE PLEASE ME .
Andy White played on LOVE ME DO and P.S. I LOVE YOU.
@Cliff589
Fairytale Land…😵💫
@Cliff589
Yes it certainly is.
Only dumb people would believe that…
You aren’t dumb are you ?
Why is there a split screen photo of Barry Gibb and Ringo? ? 🤣🤣
Barry Gib is Pete Best's stand in
This all happened when the Beatles were just one of the many bands in Liverpool.....and this happened all the time in bands, is still happening.....just trying to find a good match.
Best never took the band serious at all ,he hardly even tryed to play good drums, and he thought the band would go nowhere he admitted to that on a TV show ,,,I've got a secret, and he had no sence of humor at all,,, and his mom , ol boy !
Don’t think any of the Beatles took the band that seriously until Brian came along, they had quite a reputation for being unreliable.
Not even 2 minutes in at 1:46 your facts are wrong. Pete did not show up to any gigs after his dismissal. Johnny Hutch filled in for the rest of the week until Ringo joined on Saturday.
If The Beatle had only been a one hit wonder band (with Pete having been kicked out before their one hit), no one would be saying a thing about Pete getting kicked out. It's only because The Beatles were so successful that this is even talked about. People come and go from bands, all the time, and generally nobody makes nearly the big deal out of those situations, as they do out of this one. How many people entered and exited Benny Goodman's band ? Probably lots, but no one makes a big deal about that, nor even knows about it (for the most part.) Pete's personality was a "steady as she goes" personality, and the others were more agressive, and more extroverted. Pete is a very nice chap (I've met him and talked with him a bit, and he is just like he appears on the talk shows.) But, being a nice chap didn't work in his favor. He probably was content with his looks, the girls paying attention to him, and his drumming. He probably saw no reason to change the recipe. That is where he was different from the others, and that is what ended his career as a Beatle. "Steady as she goes" wasn't the de facto mantra of The Beatles. In reality he was just one of thousands of guys that came and went, as members of rock bands. (PS: Pete's low key, friendly, nice personality has probably served him well in life. He had the patience to be a trainer, which is a form of teaching. I'll bet that he was good at that, and was well liked. He's probably an excellent father, too. Compare that with John and Julian. So, Pete did all right in life. He was an average schmoe, just like lots of us. He did alright.)
Reluctantly or not, after he was fired, Best did NOT play anymore gigs with the Beatles.
15:20 Who is that?
Could be the band Badfinger. Tom Evans definitely is there.
Yes. I think it is Badfinger.
Oh my goodness! Is this nobody still rattling on! Unbelievable!
When they got a recording contract Brian epstien new that pete was not good enough to play on records maybe he was a little unsure about ringo to
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The guy who was most bothered about Best's drumming was George Martin. Epstein was a little concerned, but wanted Best to stay, because he knew his good looks would more than compensate with the audience for his limitations with the sticks, most of whom wouldn't even notice them.