That GF FAN I honestly think the only two episodes I didn’t like from the show was 'Roadside Attraction' and 'The Love God.' Every other episode was amazing.
(When you are hinting that you have borne witness to a bad family because they cared about your other brother exclusively so you use “bad marriage” jokes as a defense mechanism)
I, as a writer, also relate so much to that feeling of: "I have a vision, and I have now reached the point where I want to destroy everything and start over again." But Alex is right, that sometimes you just have to push past it and use it as a stepping stone towards that story you really do want to write.
Same. Sometimes I feel like what I wrote was just crap, and I wish I didn't really right it. But I know that it's just because of my vision of what I want...or just because it's me that wrote it
Oh my god, yes. I literally did a song writing collaboration project and the day right before it was going to be submitted, I text my friend "hey change it to this, its better" which she was ok with because I literally warned her I would do it
Honestly Stan's comment at the end about how dipper handled the situation was a timeless message. A real man does what he thinks is right, not what is collectively deemed "manly". It's a great message that's still relevant 11 years later.
I'm not even sure if there is any episode I would consider bad. The closest thing would be "Roadside Attraction" but the issue isn't so much the quality of the episode as much as the timing of it.
Here’s the thing, when I was younger, around 12 years old when this episode premiered and I watched it for the first time, I thought Dipper was weak for not killing the bear in the end and was disappointed. Now that I’m 19 I realize what the meaning of that was, and how INSANELY awesome the following scene is. I mean, he called out an entire army of minotaurs, all ten times his size and knowing any one of them could easily crush him, for thinking being violent for no reason is the same as being tough. AND HE’S 12. Also, after this episode was really when Dipper started to stop running and hiding in fear of the monsters/creatures he encountered and started to do to stuff like use objects around him to fight back and pull crazier stunts imo.
The one thing I like about the manotaurs is that even though they’re essential the embodiment of toxic masculinity, they do break the mold in one notable way: they actually allow conversations about emotions. When Dipper first meets one, the manotaur encourages him to talk about what’s troubling him. And later in the hot tub/bath he talks with them again but how his feelings have changed. I found that part of the episode kind of refreshing. Also, I kind of love multibear lol
icecream hero Yes, you definitely can be manly without being a jerk! Not all manliness is toxic. But the manotaurs were being toxic by telling Dipper that he wasn’t a man unless he killed the multibear.
@@mauvemagnolia Also I said this in an earlier comment. I think this episode is fine. The real stinkers are Roadside Attraction, into the Bunker, and the Deep End. I don't see how the manaturs are any worse than the Gmomes I guess the society of the Blind eye is really good at their jobs.
icecream hero Wait, what? I personally thought into the bunker was an amazing episode. What made it unlikable? I liked Dipper vs. Manliness as well, though; I found the anthology episodes like little gift shop of horrors to be a lot weaker.
The main reason for me is that roadside attraction should have been like episode 8 in season 2. It breaks the pace leading up to the last episodes too much. Not a bad episode, I really like it actually, it's just in the wrong place.
If you're wondering why there were only screenshots of the episode in this video, it's due to copyright. I tried uploading this yesterday but it got blocked globally. Even the copyright system doesn't like this episode, lmao!
"You were your own man and you stood up for yourself." "You did what was right even when no one agreed with ya. Sounds pretty manly to me, but what do I know?" I was in high school when I saw this episode and it really just flicked a lightswitch in my head. Was a nice nugget of wisdom for me since I actually was dealing with issues regarding my own identity as a guy, always trying to mimic the more toxic traits of other guys and not staying true to myself. Wish I would've taken those words fully to heart a lot sooner, honestly!
Seeing this really puts a new spin on the whole S&P thing. Imagine obsessing so much over every detail of a show's tone and the big picture of the show, and every day you get endless notes demanding you change random details before the episode can air.
I actually love this episode. The B plot with Mabel and Stan is kind of meh, but I really really appreciate the way this episode says “hey, there are ways to be a man that don’t involve being a violent asshole.” It’s a good lesson for boys to learn. I’m glad my brothers watched this show.
4:38 "You don't know what you're making until you made it." This really clicked with me that my finger just moved on its own to the like button (I don't usually 'like' videos), but that was just... Wow. Congrats! You earned a new sub!
It's interesting to hear what Alex Hirsch said about episodes. Honestly, Dipper vs. manliness is one of my favorite episodes in season one. There's just something about that episode that I really like
I always hated Weirdmaggedon the most out of any Gravity Falls episodes because of the fact that Stanley and Mable are both partially responsible for destroying the world, and if they had just listened to Standford and Dipper than not only would the world be saved, but Mable could have had a perfect sibling relationship with her brother that wasn’t a parasitic leech like Stanley and Standford’s relationship after Dipper finished Standford’s scholarship, and if anything if Dipper vs. Manliness causes toxic masculinity than Weirdmaggedon causes toxic femininity which it’s fine to enjoy media like those types of media if you get enjoyment out of those types of media.
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr oh. I never really interpreted those episodes that way. I thought dipper vs manliness showed that dipper stood up for himself instead of listening to the toxic masculinity the Manotaurs were teaching. And for the start of weirdmageddon Mabel wasn't aware of the rift being in dipper's backpack. And yeah, Stan didn't have to start up the portal to get Ford back, but Stan definitely missed his brother. Also, Stan doing that was a pretty big part of the plot of the show, that and figuring out who the author of the journals was. I never really saw anything too negative about these two episodes, but that's just me. There's definitely going to be different interpretations and stuff
I always loved this episode. I'm surprised everyone hated it. Thought it was sweet, funny, and all the things Gravity Falls should be. Plus it was just super funny. I think funny, stupid episodes are okay sometimes. Even in serious shows like Gravity Falls it's okay for an episode every once and a while to feel like a silly cartoon. Brings it whimsy and makes it delightful.
This episode always seem like one of the weaker episodes of gravity falls to me, so it’s really interesting to hear Alex Hirsch talk about his thought process on it.
I actually liked this episode. The morality was great, it's one of the first time Stan is shown as wise and it makes total sense that he's the one giving this lesson, and I mean the humor around the manotaurs being so ridiculously over the top was very funny to me. Tho it's a bit inconsitent how Dipper can beat multibear here but struggle against Gideon later on.
This episode comes after the fist fight with Gideon, which happens in the same episode he is introduced in. During the course of this episode, Dipper goes through a training montage with the manotaurs which does increase his capacity to fight both for this episode and future episodes.
I can’t stand the hate for this episode because to me it’s funny and relevant. I can just relate a lot to Dipper in this one. Love God/Blendins Game in my opinion were much weaker than this.
I EAT KIDS was great but aside from that the love god was pretty weak. Blendin’s game was great though, even if not quite at the level of the other soos episode
I really appreciate this episode. I've always been quite a sensitive, "arts instead of sports" type of guy. And while I generally like how I am, it's still hard to grapple with sometimes. It's a great message. But I guess your enjoyment of the episode depends on how much you relate to Dipper's plight. Which, in my case, is a lot. So yeah, I like it a lot.
It's really a testament to when even the worst episodes, like this or Roadside Attraction, are still really, really solid. Sure, they pale in comparison to the standard of the show, but they're still leagues ahead of some other entire shows on the same channel. _That,_ to me, is a very impressive accomplishment.
this was literally the episode that made me love gravity falls... the jokes were great, the characters great, the deep puberty struggle was relatable, the message at the end was wholesome, the different perspectives on gender roles were simple and straight forward, the value of "oldschool" concepts etc.i loved it. icannot understand how many people are saying its a bad episode.
I honestly liked the episode because it taught a very positive lesson about masculinity. Like, a man isn't only about the muscles, it's about honor and being comfortable with your own feelings. The fact that the minotaurs give Dipper room to express himself is such a positive way to express masculinity
I know that so many people consider this episode a weak one, but it kinda holds a special place in my heart. I used to watch reruns of it all the time, and the first time I ever saw the Gravity Falls characters was on that Subway add, in which they used clips from this episode (but with someone else voicing Mabel for some reason). Anyways, it's a cute one
This is a hated episode? I had no idea. I actually don't like Dipper all that much for the majority of the series and I LOVE this episode. I don't like how Mabel and Stan laughed at him, but I like this episode a lot.
My friend once asked me “what song should a play at ur funeral?” I said “play the 5 second song disco girl in gravity falls” My friend said “I will play that goddam song until u are satisfied at ur funeral” I said “we’ll then you will have to play it 1692751318 times”
This brought up a generation of men and especially trans men who truly felt seen and could relate to the struggles of not measuring up to traditional masculinity. This episode validated many into learning a gentle kind of masculinity that focuses on being a good person rather than a quintessential “man”. It holds up amazingly, even 10 years later
the emasculating of dipper was always a part of the show i was never a huge fan of. usually when a character receives "punishment" it's because they earned it. in this episode dipper didn't really do anything to earn the ridicule. his family was making fun of him and he was understandably upset.
Yeah but that's part of a family dynamic - your family takes the piss out of you for the littlest things and you're supposed to take the piss out of them
It was certainly a missed opportunity. Families frequently have an emotional punching bag, the sibling that ends up the butt of all jokes. They may not even be assigned the role deliberately. A few small teasing incidents add up and others add on like the way Mabel and Stan encourage each other until it's a running gag at that person's expense. Acknowledging that would've been a good chance to show that that's not okay.
They do acknowledge this fact later in “Dungeons, Dungeons and More Dungeons” but here would have been nice to place a remark to know this was a problem for Dipper back when we saw this episode
yeah i like the episode and think it has a great message, but i never liked how mean stan *and* mabel were to dipper with no resolution. also imo manliness/you're not man enough kinda jokes are pretty outdated and overdone, but the episode did come out in 2012 so it makes sense lol
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Dipper vs Manliness is one of my favorite plot lite episodes. I think it deals with insecurities and what it means to be manly. I think it also makes it clear why being a manly man or being "one of the boys" is appealing. The manotaurs are not just bad dudes. They have a positive effect on Dipper. I would go so far as to say that if Dipper didn't meet the manotaurs, I don't think he would have been confident enough to stand up to them and stick up for what he believes. Maybe I just enjoy building things and knocking them down.
Dipper vs Manliness was a good episode at the time, looking back at it now it is probably the weakest episode. But that’s to be expected because a show has to get you connected to the characters early on in the beginning otherwise how can they tell a great story.
I certainly don't dislike it, but I don't exactly *like* it either. There are a lot of great gags in the episode (dipper with the deer, the pain hole, "so what i'm not a mailman?" "are you crying?") but something about it just feels.. a bit strange.
The episode had a great message about "what it means to be a man" which Dipper learns is about making your own choices and standing by it, rather than the typical "big burly punchy man" stereotype.
I, personally, always liked the message of this episode. It isn't my favorite (whenever I rewatch the series, I'll usually skip this one), but, other than A:TLA, when was the last time you saw an episode dedicated to toxic masculinity?
I started watching the show when it came out and I thought it was hilarious. I finally convinced my parents to sit down and watch a new episode with me and my brother and it was this one. I was horrified when it turned out to be the weakest episode to come out at that point and they didn’t laugh once. It was like showing the video you nearly peed yourself laughing at to your friend and they’re stonefaced the whole way through.
i LOVED this episode, i thought the manotaurs were so funny and on the nose and the joke about the elder just being sacrifice, and multibear... no way, this was a treasure. i absolutely feel like this fit into the series! its not on the top of my list but its still amazing!
I **hated** this episode as a kid because for some reason I always hated stories about boys becoming men in any form. Yeah, so guess who turned out to be trans?
4:27 I slightly disagree. Despite the creators intent I never saw the Manotaurs being toxic Masculinity but hyper Masculinity. Mainly with toxic being negative, and Hyper just over the top, they can obviously cross but not mutual
I’d agree, but unless I’m mistaken they sent a child to kill a magical bear because he liked the song Disco Girl by Islandic Pop group Babba. Demanding the murder of a magic bear to achieve manhood is toxic on its own, and especially so if the reason was because the bear likes a great song.
It was still a good episode. I liked the message about manliness that being a man is not always about brute strength or physical torture. You can just do whatever you like and no need to fit into a stereotype.
Unrelated but I always wanted to see this gag on Gravity Falls. When the parents talk they sound like the grown ups on Charlie Brown. That would be hysterical.
I love hearing his comparisons to the show. It obviously takes a lot of inspo from a lot of places, but the humor is just, so specifically unique and hard to describe, but lands every. single. time.
I only like the credit scene in this episode where Lazy Susan keeps calling Stan and the opening with Tyler trying to pick the shirt. It’s my second least favorite before Boyz Crazy.
Its funny to know this now, cause when I was trying to hook my sisters to this show, I intentionally skiped this episode, I knew that the faster we got to the finale, the better, and I was not wrong, my sisters became fans of it the moment we ended the first season
I actually loved this episode when it aired. I was a little older than the demographic (I had just graduated high school) but I related a ton to dipper and I think it was the start of me being forever connected to him throughout the show.
This is hands down my favorite episode in the series. The jokes are all on point and it needed episodes like this to break the seriousness of the main plot on occasion.
I'm honestly shocked about that. I only ever thought this channel would get like 1K subs at most. The growth it's had in the last few months has been insane, and I'm truly amazed and grateful for it.
tbh I thought this episode was just way too awkward, I'd say it's my least favorite...the plot is great, and so are the gags, but something about it just makes me cringe. I could say similar things about Roadside Attraction, kinda awkward but still kind of good, But I can't get over the existence of simp Dipper and buff cow men
But In all honesty, I've watched Dipper Vs Manliness One and a half times, the second time I was like "Oh yeah...this is that one episode" and I've still avoided it ever since, it's been...what...almost 2 years since I've watched that episode? And if someone asked me if I hated anything about Gravity Falls I would say Dipper Vs Manliness. But as much as I dislike it, it has really good humor, and maybe I should give it a chance again
@Tin Watchman it has 2 meanings: 1) a guy that is obsessed with one girl and would do anything to get her, like getting buffed or making step by step plans to get to dance with her. 2) pretty much what you sayed.
I don't get the flak for this episode to me, this episode teaches that what it means to "be a man" is to stand up for what you think, which is lesson with a lot of merit. Dipper has all these lofty ideas of what a man/smart guy should be only to learn those perceptions are romanticized at best and being a respected/admired person isn't limited to one set of criteria. These are the kind of things you kinda have to decide for yourself
Interesting that this episode and Roadside attraction are both kind of hated episodes. Maybe it is related to their commentary on masculinity, maybe not. Anyway I love both, the multibear and Darlene are my favorites. If there is one episode I skip is Dungeons, dungeons and more dungeons. It is not bad, I just feel it not so funny, although I like the meta comentary of Duck-tective.
the very bit at the end where he talks about theres a picture of what you want it to be but once you make it and put it out it'll change and be its own thing compared to what you may have first envisioned, and I know this is much later than it should be for the algo but its what scares me about berserk not having muira at the helm and what it'll lose continuing on without the person who would be making it.
I had no idea this was a hated episode, it's always been one of my favorites. It might not be that important to the plot, but it's hilarious and sweet -- what more could you want?
Dipper VS Manliness is the thing that put me off finishing the show for quite a while bc the episode was tough to get through but boy am I glad I finished the show
I know a lot of people dislike this episode but as a trans guy it's super relatable. Especially early in figuring out who I am. I think it's a pretty good one lol
Ik this is an old comment but I agree! It felt relatable when viewed as a trans person because of the anxiety that comes with try to pass as a amab person when I'm not, stuff like the lack of chest hair, the higher voice, and even the "girly" interests are things I can relate to Dipper with.
it's not my favorite, but as a trans guy, i like this episode. i've had a lot of messy, confusing thoughts about what it means to be "a guy", and the ultimate moral here is just like something my dad told me. he once told me something along the lines of "You know what a real man does? he takes care of his family, he's kind. it's not about what you wear, or how short your hair is, whatever. it's about being a good person."
@@thedorkknight9684 Thank you for sharing your perspective! I'm sure a lot of trans guys and trans masc people struggle with the idea of being manly. As a nonbinary person even I worry about being too feminine. Recently I suddenly felt bad/dysphoric(?) about buying a nice set of pink pajamas because my brain went, "That's so feminine." I consciously knew that was a silly thought but it still got to me 😭
@@NylaTheWolf hey, we've all been there! My dad is the manliest person I know, and he lets my sister paint his nails bright pink, has longer hair than my mom, and constantly wearing cutesy stuff. He's told me many times, "Macho stuff is all Bullshit. You wanna be manly? Be a good person, there's nothing more manly than that." Masculinity is a complex journey, and there's no wrong way to go about it.
@@thedorkknight9684 Cis guy here: I enjoy hearing your stories, as I have also felt pressured to stay manly by today’s society. Anytime a male cartoon character (Bandit) raises his children or a female (Willow Park) actively defends her loved ones will get called out by conservatives ‘warning parents’, and it frustrates me. I just want to enjoy seeing SpongeBob sending Valentines to every close friend of his or Luz camping up her formal wear without anybody batting an eye, because my own endeavours are either androgynous or unisex, and I believe such personalities live healthier lives than pure masculinity/femininity. It’s not like I’m uncomfortable with using the men’s room, but a lot of people struggle to draw the line between sex/nature and gender/nurture.
@@Inverse_to_Chaos hey, that's great! You be you, friend. Yeah, some people just can't seem to handle the complexity of human nature. And that's really all it is. People express themselves they way they're naturally inclined to. It's funny you bring up Bandit, my dad is a HUGE fan of Bluey, there's a couple plushies in my parent's living room XD. I'm glad these stories are helping you express yourself!
I had no idea he felt that way. I rewatched this episode recently and I really enjoyed it :) I love hearing about Alex’s Thoughts behind it! He is amazing💘💘💘
I love that Tim McKeon has written for/worked on two of my absolute favorite shows. I love Gravity Falls, of course, this is one of those two shows, but the other one I'm talking about it Odd Squad. I think the fact that Tim made Odd Squad while also having been a writer on Gravity Falls definitely did help in the sense that it lends to some similarly styled jokes, plus they do both have a shared theming of stories centering around things that are strange, weird, or especially odd. Easily these are my two favorite shows.
It's still funny how even their "worst episodes" are still very good episodes lol
Gravity Falls' worst episode is still better than anything Family Guy or The Simpsons can produce nowadays.
That GF FAN I honestly think the only two episodes I didn’t like from the show was 'Roadside Attraction' and 'The Love God.' Every other episode was amazing.
@@jinxthatsme2317 those were my 2 favorites lol
I remember i didn’t see roadside attraction until AFTER I had watched the finale
@@jinxthatsme2317 To Be honest same 😆
*BUT HER AIM IS GETTIN BETTER*
BUT HER AIM IS GETTIN BETTER!!!!
i just gav ethis the 100th like.
you are welcome
@@sampepper7682 ITS FUNNy BECAUSE MARRIAGE IS TERRIBLE!
BUT HER AIM IS GETTIN BETTER
(When you are hinting that you have borne witness to a bad family because they cared about your other brother exclusively so you use “bad marriage” jokes as a defense mechanism)
I, as a writer, also relate so much to that feeling of: "I have a vision, and I have now reached the point where I want to destroy everything and start over again." But Alex is right, that sometimes you just have to push past it and use it as a stepping stone towards that story you really do want to write.
Same. Sometimes I feel like what I wrote was just crap, and I wish I didn't really right it. But I know that it's just because of my vision of what I want...or just because it's me that wrote it
Oh my god, yes. I literally did a song writing collaboration project and the day right before it was going to be submitted, I text my friend "hey change it to this, its better" which she was ok with because I literally warned her I would do it
andrew sutherland "do it"? do what
@@papasscooperiaworker3649 change the lyrics even after it was done
“Stepping stone” is a such a Danganronpa-reminiscent term for me for the worst reasons possible
Alex Hirsch creating gravity falls is just dipper telling his grandkids wildly out of proportion stories about his childhood.
"I even added in a talking robot for the kids" - Grunkle Stan in the bottomless pit episode.
So my question is, is Bill supposed to be a real person who manipulated him and his family??
@@acreator4268 that falls under the "out of proportion" category, no controversy or trauma in sight if I'm correct
@@acreator4268 "I even added a demon *for the kids*" - Alex definitely
Have you heard of the musical Big Fish? Cause that's essentially it
Honestly Stan's comment at the end about how dipper handled the situation was a timeless message. A real man does what he thinks is right, not what is collectively deemed "manly". It's a great message that's still relevant 11 years later.
This is a weaker episode, but I don’t consider it the worst one, not even a bad one.
It is boring and terrible, but nowhere near as some of the other filler episodes
BitGrit Do you even like gravity falls or do you just like 6 out of the 40 or so episodes
I'm not even sure if there is any episode I would consider bad. The closest thing would be "Roadside Attraction" but the issue isn't so much the quality of the episode as much as the timing of it.
Tbh I hate the epsiode where the family goes on a road trip and dipper dating like 10 girls one of the worst filler episode
@@discordtheunknown4437 Same
How does Dipper fail a manlyness tester. He didn't react to a ducking wolf eating his leg.
I know it's a bit late to say this but he was driven by spite and nothing more.
That's not manly. That's HARDCORE
What does pain resistance have to do with grip strength?
Lol dipper I'd just out of it sometimes lol he's just a mood
@@wegner7036 what does being a man have to do with grip strength? Everything here is pretty much a joke once you think about it lol
Here’s the thing, when I was younger, around 12 years old when this episode premiered and I watched it for the first time, I thought Dipper was weak for not killing the bear in the end and was disappointed. Now that I’m 19 I realize what the meaning of that was, and how INSANELY awesome the following scene is. I mean, he called out an entire army of minotaurs, all ten times his size and knowing any one of them could easily crush him, for thinking being violent for no reason is the same as being tough. AND HE’S 12. Also, after this episode was really when Dipper started to stop running and hiding in fear of the monsters/creatures he encountered and started to do to stuff like use objects around him to fight back and pull crazier stunts imo.
The one thing I like about the manotaurs is that even though they’re essential the embodiment of toxic masculinity, they do break the mold in one notable way: they actually allow conversations about emotions. When Dipper first meets one, the manotaur encourages him to talk about what’s troubling him. And later in the hot tub/bath he talks with them again but how his feelings have changed. I found that part of the episode kind of refreshing.
Also, I kind of love multibear lol
You can be manly without being a jerk. I think the episode is fine.
icecream hero Yes, you definitely can be manly without being a jerk! Not all manliness is toxic. But the manotaurs were being toxic by telling Dipper that he wasn’t a man unless he killed the multibear.
@@mauvemagnolia Yep I agree.
@@mauvemagnolia Also I said this in an earlier comment. I think this episode is fine. The real stinkers are Roadside Attraction, into the Bunker, and the Deep End. I don't see how the manaturs are any worse than the Gmomes I guess the society of the Blind eye is really good at their jobs.
icecream hero Wait, what? I personally thought into the bunker was an amazing episode. What made it unlikable?
I liked Dipper vs. Manliness as well, though; I found the anthology episodes like little gift shop of horrors to be a lot weaker.
It kinda shows how good of a show this is, because even the worse episodes aren’t that bad and still got some great moments
Same with avatar, everyone hates the great divide but its still got some iconic moments
I find this interesting since a lot of fans see this as the worst episode after Roadside Attraction
Ngl I liked roadside attraction. Why did people dislike this?
I think this is the worst episode and Roadside Attraction is the second-worst.
What
The main reason for me is that roadside attraction should have been like episode 8 in season 2. It breaks the pace leading up to the last episodes too much. Not a bad episode, I really like it actually, it's just in the wrong place.
RandomRows I love it it’s a lot different then the other episodes but it’s really entertaining
Let’s be honest here, disco girl single handedly saved this episode from being garbage
What about the montage
CartoonishIdealism I guess
TBH Watching it again, it kinda did lol
True
yay...
i feel like the episode wasn't my absolute favorites, but i feel like it definitely had a great message. (plus we have dipper singing disco girl)
"disco girl coming through. That GIRL IN YOU. OOH OOH. OOH OOH"
I know ;-; I know
What's the message.
@@kingofcards9 What Stan told Dipper: That standing up for yourself and what you believe in is manly
If you're wondering why there were only screenshots of the episode in this video, it's due to copyright. I tried uploading this yesterday but it got blocked globally. Even the copyright system doesn't like this episode, lmao!
i thought this episode was alright
Have you met Alex?
It's alright and I happen to not like that ep, I mean I don't hate it I just dislike some scenes
That GF FAN do you think there could be a mini series of the twins before gravity falls season 1 and season 2 will be after leaving the falls
Bruh ur literally a creator like you got the whole squad of voice actors with you
"You were your own man and you stood up for yourself."
"You did what was right even when no one agreed with ya. Sounds pretty manly to me, but what do I know?"
I was in high school when I saw this episode and it really just flicked a lightswitch in my head. Was a nice nugget of wisdom for me since I actually was dealing with issues regarding my own identity as a guy, always trying to mimic the more toxic traits of other guys and not staying true to myself. Wish I would've taken those words fully to heart a lot sooner, honestly!
It sounds like Alex had a whole Dipper-moment behind the scenes
Dipper is based on Alexander.
Honestly, I find the Multibear to be kinda adorable.
He’s one of my favourite side characters in the entire show
Kinda? Is undeniably adorable
Looks like a quarrister.
Seeing this really puts a new spin on the whole S&P thing. Imagine obsessing so much over every detail of a show's tone and the big picture of the show, and every day you get endless notes demanding you change random details before the episode can air.
I actually love this episode. The B plot with Mabel and Stan is kind of meh, but I really really appreciate the way this episode says “hey, there are ways to be a man that don’t involve being a violent asshole.” It’s a good lesson for boys to learn. I’m glad my brothers watched this show.
*BOOOOORING*
*HEY, LET’S GO BUILD SOMETHING AND THEN KNOCK IT DOWN!*
While it is a good message, the man is right, violence = fun
I wasn't a big fan of this episode as a whole but the message and the jokes are brilliant
4:38 "You don't know what you're making until you made it."
This really clicked with me that my finger just moved on its own to the like button (I don't usually 'like' videos), but that was just... Wow.
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It's interesting to hear what Alex Hirsch said about episodes. Honestly, Dipper vs. manliness is one of my favorite episodes in season one. There's just something about that episode that I really like
I always hated Weirdmaggedon the most out of any Gravity Falls episodes because of the fact that Stanley and Mable are both partially responsible for destroying the world, and if they had just listened to Standford and Dipper than not only would the world be saved, but Mable could have had a perfect sibling relationship with her brother that wasn’t a parasitic leech like Stanley and Standford’s relationship after Dipper finished Standford’s scholarship, and if anything if Dipper vs. Manliness causes toxic masculinity than Weirdmaggedon causes toxic femininity which it’s fine to enjoy media like those types of media if you get enjoyment out of those types of media.
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr oh. I never really interpreted those episodes that way. I thought dipper vs manliness showed that dipper stood up for himself instead of listening to the toxic masculinity the Manotaurs were teaching. And for the start of weirdmageddon Mabel wasn't aware of the rift being in dipper's backpack.
And yeah, Stan didn't have to start up the portal to get Ford back, but Stan definitely missed his brother. Also, Stan doing that was a pretty big part of the plot of the show, that and figuring out who the author of the journals was.
I never really saw anything too negative about these two episodes, but that's just me. There's definitely going to be different interpretations and stuff
I keep hearing Dipper going "mhmm" and "oh" that I can't get it through my head that it's the voice actor 🤣
I always loved this episode. I'm surprised everyone hated it. Thought it was sweet, funny, and all the things Gravity Falls should be. Plus it was just super funny. I think funny, stupid episodes are okay sometimes. Even in serious shows like Gravity Falls it's okay for an episode every once and a while to feel like a silly cartoon. Brings it whimsy and makes it delightful.
I'm not sure I'd call Gravity Falls a serious show. It's definitely comedy.
@@eric_moore-6126 Serious is a bit of a big term, but I meant in relation to other animated shows for it's demographic.
This is honestly one of the episodes I look back on fondly when I think about Gravity Falls. I have no real negative thoughts on it tbh.
This episode always seem like one of the weaker episodes of gravity falls to me, so it’s really interesting to hear Alex Hirsch talk about his thought process on it.
I actually liked this episode.
The morality was great, it's one of the first time Stan is shown as wise and it makes total sense that he's the one giving this lesson, and I mean the humor around the manotaurs being so ridiculously over the top was very funny to me.
Tho it's a bit inconsitent how Dipper can beat multibear here but struggle against Gideon later on.
This episode comes after the fist fight with Gideon, which happens in the same episode he is introduced in. During the course of this episode, Dipper goes through a training montage with the manotaurs which does increase his capacity to fight both for this episode and future episodes.
I can’t stand the hate for this episode because to me it’s funny and relevant. I can just relate a lot to Dipper in this one.
Love God/Blendins Game in my opinion were much weaker than this.
I disagree. Blendins game was amazing. Other than that I totally agree
Blendins’s Game was awesome but Love God was okay
I agree blenens game is so over rated besides a few Easter eggs in is so bad
Eh, not very relevant to me being a girl and all so I guess that explains why it's so hated
A lot of ppl don't relate
I EAT KIDS was great but aside from that the love god was pretty weak. Blendin’s game was great though, even if not quite at the level of the other soos episode
I really appreciate this episode. I've always been quite a sensitive, "arts instead of sports" type of guy. And while I generally like how I am, it's still hard to grapple with sometimes.
It's a great message. But I guess your enjoyment of the episode depends on how much you relate to Dipper's plight. Which, in my case, is a lot. So yeah, I like it a lot.
It's really a testament to when even the worst episodes, like this or Roadside Attraction, are still really, really solid. Sure, they pale in comparison to the standard of the show, but they're still leagues ahead of some other entire shows on the same channel. _That,_ to me, is a very impressive accomplishment.
this was literally the episode that made me love gravity falls... the jokes were great, the characters great, the deep puberty struggle was relatable, the message at the end was wholesome, the different perspectives on gender roles were simple and straight forward, the value of "oldschool" concepts etc.i loved it. icannot understand how many people are saying its a bad episode.
Am I am the only one thinking "there isn't any bad episode in gravity falls" like literally I am obsessed with every episode
It does say something that there aren't any bad episodes! I definitely think there are weaker ones but no outright bad ones
I like the ending of the episode, though. Thought it was good
I honestly liked the episode because it taught a very positive lesson about masculinity. Like, a man isn't only about the muscles, it's about honor and being comfortable with your own feelings. The fact that the minotaurs give Dipper room to express himself is such a positive way to express masculinity
That right.
Fun fact about this episode, it is set during Stans Birthday according to Journal 3.
I know that so many people consider this episode a weak one, but it kinda holds a special place in my heart. I used to watch reruns of it all the time, and the first time I ever saw the Gravity Falls characters was on that Subway add, in which they used clips from this episode (but with someone else voicing Mabel for some reason). Anyways, it's a cute one
Why do people hate this episode? Is it because of “DISCO GIRL! COMING THROUGH” ?
Disco girl is one of the best parts of the episodes
Turtle Creations I thought people hated it.
That is the most stupidest thing I have ever observed.
BitGrit But isn’t the entire world somewhat stupid?
Rhythm Cat no
I did not even notice that this was a bad episide lol. Maybe because of nostalgia i forgot about it.
I'm surprised a lot of people didn't like this episode as much. I enjoyed it and liked the message too
This is a hated episode? I had no idea. I actually don't like Dipper all that much for the majority of the series and I LOVE this episode. I don't like how Mabel and Stan laughed at him, but I like this episode a lot.
I liked this episode. Dipper's rejection of manotaur manliness was indeed quite manly of him, and I found that satisfying.
I could see how people say its a weaker episode maybe in story, but its such a funny and sweet episode. One of my favs
This episode ages shockingly well. Made me forget it was written ten years ago
My friend once asked me “what song should a play at ur funeral?”
I said “play the 5 second song disco girl in gravity falls”
My friend said “I will play that goddam song until u are satisfied at ur funeral”
I said “we’ll then you will have to play it 1692751318 times”
This brought up a generation of men and especially trans men who truly felt seen and could relate to the struggles of not measuring up to traditional masculinity. This episode validated many into learning a gentle kind of masculinity that focuses on being a good person rather than a quintessential “man”. It holds up amazingly, even 10 years later
Has it really been a decade ago!? Damn
the emasculating of dipper was always a part of the show i was never a huge fan of. usually when a character receives "punishment" it's because they earned it. in this episode dipper didn't really do anything to earn the ridicule. his family was making fun of him and he was understandably upset.
Yeah but that's part of a family dynamic - your family takes the piss out of you for the littlest things and you're supposed to take the piss out of them
It was certainly a missed opportunity. Families frequently have an emotional punching bag, the sibling that ends up the butt of all jokes. They may not even be assigned the role deliberately. A few small teasing incidents add up and others add on like the way Mabel and Stan encourage each other until it's a running gag at that person's expense. Acknowledging that would've been a good chance to show that that's not okay.
They do acknowledge this fact later in “Dungeons, Dungeons and More Dungeons” but here would have been nice to place a remark to know this was a problem for Dipper back when we saw this episode
Honestly something I can relate to being treated like that growing up
yeah i like the episode and think it has a great message, but i never liked how mean stan *and* mabel were to dipper with no resolution. also imo manliness/you're not man enough kinda jokes are pretty outdated and overdone, but the episode did come out in 2012 so it makes sense lol
How many characters do Alex Hirsch voice like holy crap.
Grunkle Stan, Soos, Bill Cipher, Old Man McGucket, Jeff the Gnome, Mayor Befufftlefumpter, Nate, Sev'ral Timez, Digi-Cod, Dippy Fresh, Gnomes, Jimmy, Laser Tag Announcer, Puppeteer, Quentin Trembley, Sev'ral Times, Sev'ral Timez Band Members, Shimmery Twinkleheart, Shmebulock Sr., Teen, The Cheapskate, and Young McGucket.
Dipper vs Manliness is one of my favorite plot lite episodes. I think it deals with insecurities and what it means to be manly. I think it also makes it clear why being a manly man or being "one of the boys" is appealing. The manotaurs are not just bad dudes. They have a positive effect on Dipper. I would go so far as to say that if Dipper didn't meet the manotaurs, I don't think he would have been confident enough to stand up to them and stick up for what he believes. Maybe I just enjoy building things and knocking them down.
Dipper vs Manliness was a good episode at the time, looking back at it now it is probably the weakest episode. But that’s to be expected because a show has to get you connected to the characters early on in the beginning otherwise how can they tell a great story.
Nah, the weakest episode definitely has to be Roadside Attraction.
I loved listening to Jason Ritter in these commentaries. You can hear how much he genuinely loves the show and the people he worked with.
*Dollar slides out of Stan's sleeve* 😳 "Tap. Tap." 😃
I wasn't aware that anyone out there dislikes this episode. I thought it was just as good as any other and the message was really good!
I certainly don't dislike it, but I don't exactly *like* it either. There are a lot of great gags in the episode (dipper with the deer, the pain hole, "so what i'm not a mailman?" "are you crying?") but something about it just feels.. a bit strange.
The episode had a great message about "what it means to be a man"
which Dipper learns is about making your own choices and standing by it, rather than the typical "big burly punchy man" stereotype.
The fact that this episode gave us Disco Girl justifies its existence.
I, personally, always liked the message of this episode. It isn't my favorite (whenever I rewatch the series, I'll usually skip this one), but, other than A:TLA, when was the last time you saw an episode dedicated to toxic masculinity?
What was the ATLA toxic masculinity episode
@@gibbous_silver Probably The Kyoshi Warriors
FanFusion thanks
DISCO GIRLLLL
COMING THROUGHHHHH
THAT GIRL IS YOUUUU
I started watching the show when it came out and I thought it was hilarious. I finally convinced my parents to sit down and watch a new episode with me and my brother and it was this one. I was horrified when it turned out to be the weakest episode to come out at that point and they didn’t laugh once. It was like showing the video you nearly peed yourself laughing at to your friend and they’re stonefaced the whole way through.
This is my twentieth fav episode. It taught me about the horrors of puberty.
i LOVED this episode, i thought the manotaurs were so funny and on the nose and the joke about the elder just being sacrifice, and multibear... no way, this was a treasure. i absolutely feel like this fit into the series! its not on the top of my list but its still amazing!
I **hated** this episode as a kid because for some reason I always hated stories about boys becoming men in any form.
Yeah, so guess who turned out to be trans?
for me was the opositve, i loved the messagee so much i discovered i could be my real self .... and later i turned out trans lmao
Are you a tomboy girl ?
4:27 I slightly disagree. Despite the creators intent I never saw the Manotaurs being toxic Masculinity but hyper Masculinity. Mainly with toxic being negative, and Hyper just over the top, they can obviously cross but not mutual
I'd say it became toxic when they decided that was the ONLY way to be a man
Realest comments if I'm honest 🗿👍
I’d agree, but unless I’m mistaken they sent a child to kill a magical bear because he liked the song Disco Girl by Islandic Pop group Babba. Demanding the murder of a magic bear to achieve manhood is toxic on its own, and especially so if the reason was because the bear likes a great song.
Me: argues with mabel haters
*cc west has entered the chat
Me: why do I hear boss music?
😳
It was still a good episode. I liked the message about manliness that being a man is not always about brute strength or physical torture. You can just do whatever you like and no need to fit into a stereotype.
Even you a girl but like boy things and a boy but like girl things.
Unrelated but I always wanted to see this gag on Gravity Falls. When the parents talk they sound like the grown ups on Charlie Brown. That would be hysterical.
i never even knew this episode had a lot of hate, i loved this episode lol
I love hearing his comparisons to the show. It obviously takes a lot of inspo from a lot of places, but the humor is just, so specifically unique and hard to describe, but lands every. single. time.
I only like the credit scene in this episode where Lazy Susan keeps calling Stan and the opening with Tyler trying to pick the shirt. It’s my second least favorite before Boyz Crazy.
This was actually the first episode I ever saw, when I was a kid and gravity falls was so new, and it’s what got me hooked onto the show
Don’t mind me bopping to the intro in the background
The whole series is beautiful and great thx. There's something in every episode
Its funny to know this now, cause when I was trying to hook my sisters to this show, I intentionally skiped this episode, I knew that the faster we got to the finale, the better, and I was not wrong, my sisters became fans of it the moment we ended the first season
I actually loved this episode when it aired.
I was a little older than the demographic (I had just graduated high school) but I related a ton to dipper and I think it was the start of me being forever connected to him throughout the show.
You are so epic, I love watching you, because you include my MOST favorite TV show. :D
This is hands down my favorite episode in the series. The jokes are all on point and it needed episodes like this to break the seriousness of the main plot on occasion.
I really enjoy this episode, if mostly for the jokes. Interesting to hear Alex Hirsch's vision
How weird that the “worst” episode gave us a very iconic moment in gravity falls. The iconic disco girl song.
Thanks for uploading!
Also you're pretty close to hitting 10k subs! Congratulations in advance
I'm honestly shocked about that. I only ever thought this channel would get like 1K subs at most. The growth it's had in the last few months has been insane, and I'm truly amazed and grateful for it.
I'm so confused, I really like this episode. Didn't know that was so controversial.
I can relate to Hirsch on a personal level about having a squeaky voice in 6th grade
Everybody voice can be sound very different.
excellent description! i’ve never seen a youtube answering frequent questions and that’s so smart. love it
tbh I thought this episode was just way too awkward, I'd say it's my least favorite...the plot is great, and so are the gags, but something about it just makes me cringe.
I could say similar things about Roadside Attraction, kinda awkward but still kind of good, But I can't get over the existence of simp Dipper and buff cow men
But In all honesty, I've watched Dipper Vs Manliness One and a half times, the second time I was like "Oh yeah...this is that one episode" and I've still avoided it ever since, it's been...what...almost 2 years since I've watched that episode? And if someone asked me if I hated anything about Gravity Falls I would say Dipper Vs Manliness. But as much as I dislike it, it has really good humor, and maybe I should give it a chance again
*s i m p d i p p e r a n d b u f f c o w m e n*
honestly same. I still like it, but It is a bit awkward
@Tin Watchman it has 2 meanings:
1) a guy that is obsessed with one girl and would do anything to get her, like getting buffed or making step by step plans to get to dance with her.
2) pretty much what you sayed.
@Tin Watchman in this context it means a flirt who will let himself be pushed around, and tries to spoil a girl in hopes she'll be interested
How insane, that's literally my favorite episode
I don't get the flak for this episode
to me, this episode teaches that what it means to "be a man" is to stand up for what you think, which is lesson with a lot of merit.
Dipper has all these lofty ideas of what a man/smart guy should be only to learn those perceptions are romanticized at best and being a respected/admired person isn't limited to one set of criteria. These are the kind of things you kinda have to decide for yourself
Basically it defines healthy masculinity in the presence of toxic masculinity
The only reason this episode isn’t my least favorite is because of my nostalgia when I was younger and would watch it over and over
This was actually the first episode I saw and I honestly loved it, especially for Stan’s line of what being a man is.
I like how Jason is just there being like "Yeah" to everything Alex is saying
Interesting that this episode and Roadside attraction are both kind of hated episodes. Maybe it is related to their commentary on masculinity, maybe not. Anyway I love both, the multibear and Darlene are my favorites. If there is one episode I skip is Dungeons, dungeons and more dungeons. It is not bad, I just feel it not so funny, although I like the meta comentary of Duck-tective.
the very bit at the end where he talks about theres a picture of what you want it to be but once you make it and put it out it'll change and be its own thing compared to what you may have first envisioned, and I know this is much later than it should be for the algo but its what scares me about berserk not having muira at the helm and what it'll lose continuing on without the person who would be making it.
I had no idea this was a hated episode, it's always been one of my favorites. It might not be that important to the plot, but it's hilarious and sweet -- what more could you want?
This is one of the funniest episodes imo, it’s the only episodes my mom had seen and she would constantly quote it lol
Oh this was uploaded minutes ago. Pretty cool as I just found this channel
Dipper VS Manliness is the thing that put me off finishing the show for quite a while bc the episode was tough to get through but boy am I glad I finished the show
I know a lot of people dislike this episode but as a trans guy it's super relatable. Especially early in figuring out who I am. I think it's a pretty good one lol
Ik this is an old comment but I agree! It felt relatable when viewed as a trans person because of the anxiety that comes with try to pass as a amab person when I'm not, stuff like the lack of chest hair, the higher voice, and even the "girly" interests are things I can relate to Dipper with.
In case you don't know Dipper was first designed as a trans guy until Disney had a say in it
Same here!
@@yfeboanvakenss8841 thank God. I would've dropped the show
@@totallynotinsane3327 nobody asked
I used to hate this episode when I was a kid, but now I realize it's a very important message about masculinity and having self confidence
it's not my favorite, but as a trans guy, i like this episode.
i've had a lot of messy, confusing thoughts about what it means to be "a guy", and the ultimate moral here is just like something my dad told me. he once told me something along the lines of
"You know what a real man does? he takes care of his family, he's kind. it's not about what you wear, or how short your hair is, whatever. it's about being a good person."
@@thedorkknight9684 Thank you for sharing your perspective! I'm sure a lot of trans guys and trans masc people struggle with the idea of being manly. As a nonbinary person even I worry about being too feminine. Recently I suddenly felt bad/dysphoric(?) about buying a nice set of pink pajamas because my brain went, "That's so feminine." I consciously knew that was a silly thought but it still got to me 😭
@@NylaTheWolf hey, we've all been there!
My dad is the manliest person I know, and he lets my sister paint his nails bright pink, has longer hair than my mom, and constantly wearing cutesy stuff.
He's told me many times, "Macho stuff is all Bullshit. You wanna be manly? Be a good person, there's nothing more manly than that."
Masculinity is a complex journey, and there's no wrong way to go about it.
@@thedorkknight9684 Cis guy here:
I enjoy hearing your stories, as I have also felt pressured to stay manly by today’s society. Anytime a male cartoon character (Bandit) raises his children or a female (Willow Park) actively defends her loved ones will get called out by conservatives ‘warning parents’, and it frustrates me. I just want to enjoy seeing SpongeBob sending Valentines to every close friend of his or Luz camping up her formal wear without anybody batting an eye, because my own endeavours are either androgynous or unisex, and I believe such personalities live healthier lives than pure masculinity/femininity. It’s not like I’m uncomfortable with using the men’s room, but a lot of people struggle to draw the line between sex/nature and gender/nurture.
@@Inverse_to_Chaos hey, that's great! You be you, friend.
Yeah, some people just can't seem to handle the complexity of human nature. And that's really all it is. People express themselves they way they're naturally inclined to.
It's funny you bring up Bandit, my dad is a HUGE fan of Bluey, there's a couple plushies in my parent's living room XD.
I'm glad these stories are helping you express yourself!
I love every episode of gravity thanks to Alex Hirsch for being able to do this episode.
I liked this episode, it was funny and the message at the end was really good.
I had no idea he felt that way. I rewatched this episode recently and I really enjoyed it :) I love hearing about Alex’s Thoughts behind it! He is amazing💘💘💘
so we, the gravity falls fans who have stayed strong for 8 YEARS. dont like an episode?
I love that Tim McKeon has written for/worked on two of my absolute favorite shows. I love Gravity Falls, of course, this is one of those two shows, but the other one I'm talking about it Odd Squad. I think the fact that Tim made Odd Squad while also having been a writer on Gravity Falls definitely did help in the sense that it lends to some similarly styled jokes, plus they do both have a shared theming of stories centering around things that are strange, weird, or especially odd. Easily these are my two favorite shows.