When I ride with a passenger, I tell them they’re a sack of potatoes. Don’t worry about leaning… the bike control is my job. Yet this is a common thing people disagree with (passenger lean) simply put… The rider can control add’l weight easy… yet unpredictable leaned weight… potential problems can come quick. for example.. they’re leaning into the turn with you, you go to pull back up, they don’t/can’t so it becomes more difficult. Then just as you pull it level they gain control again and then they over correct… 💥 with a passenger that knows how to ride. These concerns become nullified. Yet as a new passenger I strongly encourage them to just be addl weight. (Obviously follow the bikes movement .. so don’t counter lean… if that makes sense) Love how you let her get comfortable first and the constant stops/slowly getting into it. Good man. Lol “no we are not going on the interstate” lol adorable. Love this lol Again dude, keep up the amazing work!
Thanks man I appreciate the info. She was leaning the exact opposite way so It made it really hard to lean at all. Lol. I knew what she would do and it didn't help me at all so that's whys I was saying lean a little.
My baby was the same way when she first got on the back of my bike. It's natural for them to be afraid at first. But after that first successful ride. They can't wait to do it again. You were so patient. That's the key. Keep up the great work. Iceman. American Legion Rider
She did SO good! I had anxiety just watching you guys when cars were close but you could hear the excitement from her and I’m so glad you guys had a good ride!
A tip I received once but never had a chance to put to the test is to tell the passenger to move their helmet to one side of the rider or the other, depending on the turn. I think the idea was moving the head introduced slight lean and gave an easy task for the passenger to follow without fighting against the rider.
I had a big trunk and saddle bags on my bike and sometimes I fill it up with groceries and more. The groceries do not have to learn anything about leaning for me to ride the bike. They don't need to do anything. Just so long as they don't start intentionally leaning in the opposite direction from me everything will be fine.... and they will never do that. Passengers are the same. Just as long as they don't start leaning the opposite direction of the way you want to go you will be fine. Besides, once you learn how to counter steer you can overcome almost anything they can do. You have enough muscle in your arms to push the handlebars hard enough to overcome anything they can do on a turn. Telling a brand new rider they have to lean the right amount when you come to a curve puts too much fear in them because they imagine if they don't do it just right you will crash. Anyway, you guys are doing fine. Good video. I do admit that on a really light bike, like a 375 lb bike, a really bad passenger might be more of a problem.
Yeah, I think that’s the same with her. I don’t think she will ride on her own, but she will definitely ride with me. Hopefully, I can start her out small if she wants to learn.
This is awesome. My husband and I ride together. This has been a lifelong love of ours. You are so patient,just like my hubbs! Congrats Raven🏍️ btw don’t overthink the lean…its organic ☺️
Time to get a 2up setup! As others have stated with the lean, just have her look through the turns with you, it will help to have the comms so you can communicate what’s happening or about to happen so she feels more prepared.
Ahhh good job Raven!! You did great chick!! You can now say you’re a bada** biker chick ❤ hope to see you on more rides! PS you two are adorable, loved every second of the video!!
Thank you very much, Mary. Hopefully, she can ride again soon. Just need a bike that will handle both of us. Lol that Goldwing is looking really tempting right about now. lol
Hey man. Awesome. Kudos to both of you. Riding with a passenger is an awesome experience. Some tips I’ve picked up - have the passenger look over your shoulder on the side you are leaning. I tell my passengers to pretend there’s Velcro holding us except their heads and just go with the flow. And they shouldn’t try to anticipate your move. When my wife and I used to ride all the time I barely knew she was there, but then again she also rode solo herself. So that helps. Keep on going on.
The leaning in turns is always an issue with new passengers - as a passenger you just need to relax and go with the seat of your pants, don't lean - just go with the bike, stay behind the driver.
Bro!! what an awesome feel good video!! You are an awesome teacher, love your patience and reassurance!! Brilliant!!!! This video deserves a million views!!!!
I gave up riding when we got married for kids, bills, etc. I got back into it when the kids were gone. I rode solo for about a year and my wife wanted to ride with me, I told her it's like Wonkavision. She acted a lot like Raven at first. Hyperventilating with the helmet on. Our very first ride, not a mile from home I had to emergency brake...By the time we got to our lunch spot, She wanted to ride longer. Now we ride across country and love it.
Cool video man, could see she was having fun. I will add my comment to the others that pointed out that the riders do not _need_ to lean at all. It is the bike that leans as a result of your counter-steering inputs, the riders should not lean, especially when riding 2-up (unless you are doing 90 on a sport-bike on track trying to drag your knee around corners). "Act like you are a sack of potatoes" is the classic best advice to passengers. Any movement of the passenger just interferes with the riders control of the bike, which is very dangerous. Nice video though, apart from the dodgy advice 🙂
My wife was scared all her life of motorcycles. She finally rode with me and at 50 decided to take MSF and got a Honda Rebel. That was a year ago. Last week we got her a triumph bonneville and she is having a blast.
About 6 years ago I got a bike, again. My girlfriend's response was: 'I have always wondered what it's like', so I got her a helmet and on the back she went, gentle ride to the cinema, all good. Then on the way back we hit the empty motorway and I throttled it, I heard her scream and thought, 'yeah, that's the end of it now FFS!'. We got home, she clampered off the back, ripper her helmet off, stared at me me and said: ' NEVER again ! I want my OWN !'. She is now on her 3rd bike and loving life on her Street Triple.
I begged my wife to ride on the back of my bike around the neighborhood. She finally went one time. She leaned so hard in the opposite direction I almost had to hang off the bike & drag my knee to turn at 20 mph. It was as scary for me as her. Went home after 5 minutes. She said that was more scary than roller coasters & she has ridden dozens. I did tell her lean as I lean. Don't fight it, just lean with me.
Raven are you sure your not Liz from Michigan....lol you acting just like my ex did although we not together thx for bringing back good memories and also remember these your sharing with your man right now because you will get a fantastic kick out of these memories just like I have remembering mine thx again Raven
Reminded me of my wife's first ride. She was holding me so tight that I couldn't sit up straight. A year later and she was "chair dancing" to my music as we went down the highway.
I love seeing people getting exposed to motorcycles in a good way. As far as leaning, what i have always done if the bike has a sissybar is tell them to put that in the middle of their back and keep it there. So if the bike leans to the left the bar will move with the bike and they should move with the bar..
There's things you should've told her before you rolled. you should've explained to her to keep her feet on the pegs, even if you're stopped. Put your back against the backrest and stay with it. become one with the backrest. the passenger doesn't worry about the leaning. they need to be the backrest. you should've let your buddy Jesse give her the ride. you don't seem very experienced.
It was my first ride with a passenger and yes I did tell her all this before we got moving but she was nervous and forgot stuff. It happens. I did fine with her and Jesse did the exact same with his wife. I didn’t do anything dangerous with her and she got better the more she rode. We didn’t have any issues either just had a fun ride and I’m glad she got to experience it.
When I ride with a passenger, I tell them they’re a sack of potatoes. Don’t worry about leaning… the bike control is my job. Yet this is a common thing people disagree with (passenger lean) simply put…
The rider can control add’l weight easy… yet unpredictable leaned weight… potential problems can come quick. for example.. they’re leaning into the turn with you, you go to pull back up, they don’t/can’t so it becomes more difficult. Then just as you pull it level they gain control again and then they over correct… 💥 with a passenger that knows how to ride. These concerns become nullified. Yet as a new passenger I strongly encourage them to just be addl weight. (Obviously follow the bikes movement .. so don’t counter lean… if that makes sense)
Love how you let her get comfortable first and the constant stops/slowly getting into it. Good man.
Lol “no we are not going on the interstate” lol adorable. Love this lol
Again dude, keep up the amazing work!
Thanks man I appreciate the info. She was leaning the exact opposite way so It made it really hard to lean at all. Lol. I knew what she would do and it didn't help me at all so that's whys I was saying lean a little.
@@therideofalifetimeoh yes, the opposite would be the worst thing to do lol. So… Raven getting a bike now? Lol
@@SLIGHT_ I want her too but idk if she will Id have to start her slowwwwwwew
That's right, I don't want them to do anything, I'll do all the work. I've been riding passengers for 47 years.
@@mr1bienvenu1 yeah I agree she was just leaning the opposite way lol
My baby was the same way when she first got on the back of my bike. It's natural for them to be afraid at first. But after that first successful ride. They can't wait to do it again. You were so patient. That's the key. Keep up the great work. Iceman. American Legion Rider
Awesome!! Continual reassurance turned into FUN!!!!!
Aww thank you momma Burch! She had a great time and she can't wait to go again.
Way to go Raven!
Thank you!
She did SO good! I had anxiety just watching you guys when cars were close but you could hear the excitement from her and I’m so glad you guys had a good ride!
Thank you so much! She very much enjoyed it!
I'm so happy for you Raven, you did great!
(We all love doing the biker wave, you're far from alone)
@@foxpopuli6982 she loved the biker wave more than anything lol
Raven you are SO real for this, I remember all of these feelings and now I ride my own bike! You’re about to fall in love!!💕💫
@@KomotoVlogs thank you for the kind words! I want to get her a Navi so she can learn.
She needs a bike of her own now, so she can see better 😅
A tip I received once but never had a chance to put to the test is to tell the passenger to move their helmet to one side of the rider or the other, depending on the turn. I think the idea was moving the head introduced slight lean and gave an easy task for the passenger to follow without fighting against the rider.
I had a big trunk and saddle bags on my bike and sometimes I fill it up with groceries and more. The groceries do not have to learn anything about leaning for me to ride the bike. They don't need to do anything. Just so long as they don't start intentionally leaning in the opposite direction from me everything will be fine.... and they will never do that. Passengers are the same. Just as long as they don't start leaning the opposite direction of the way you want to go you will be fine. Besides, once you learn how to counter steer you can overcome almost anything they can do. You have enough muscle in your arms to push the handlebars hard enough to overcome anything they can do on a turn. Telling a brand new rider they have to lean the right amount when you come to a curve puts too much fear in them because they imagine if they don't do it just right you will crash. Anyway, you guys are doing fine. Good video. I do admit that on a really light bike, like a 375 lb bike, a really bad passenger might be more of a problem.
Good deal, can’t get my wife to ride on her own, but she ride’s with me which is cool, enjoy and ride safe 👌🏾
Yeah, I think that’s the same with her. I don’t think she will ride on her own, but she will definitely ride with me. Hopefully, I can start her out small if she wants to learn.
This is awesome. My husband and I ride together. This has been a lifelong love of ours. You are so patient,just like my hubbs! Congrats Raven🏍️ btw don’t overthink the lean…its organic ☺️
@@michelevolz7769 thank you for the kind words! She will get better in time. She had a lot of fun.
Take a class you won't regret it,start small and be safe always pay attention it's great! 🤯
@@Wayne-j5j I took the msf course before I started riding but maybe get her to do it lol
Time to get a 2up setup! As others have stated with the lean, just have her look through the turns with you, it will help to have the comms so you can communicate what’s happening or about to happen so she feels more prepared.
Yeah I know just want a Goldwing lol with a Cardo would be awesome
Ahhh good job Raven!! You did great chick!! You can now say you’re a bada** biker chick ❤ hope to see you on more rides! PS you two are adorable, loved every second of the video!!
Thank you very much, Mary. Hopefully, she can ride again soon. Just need a bike that will handle both of us. Lol that Goldwing is looking really tempting right about now. lol
Hey man. Awesome. Kudos to both of you. Riding with a passenger is an awesome experience. Some tips I’ve picked up - have the passenger look over your shoulder on the side you are leaning. I tell my passengers to pretend there’s Velcro holding us except their heads and just go with the flow. And they shouldn’t try to anticipate your move. When my wife and I used to ride all the time I barely knew she was there, but then again she also rode solo herself. So that helps. Keep on going on.
@@jerman12005 thanks for the tips I appreciate it. She did better near the end. She just thought we would fall off lol but I’m very proud of her.
The leaning in turns is always an issue with new passengers - as a passenger you just need to relax and go with the seat of your pants, don't lean - just go with the bike, stay behind the driver.
Bro!! what an awesome feel good video!! You are an awesome teacher, love your patience and reassurance!! Brilliant!!!! This video deserves a million views!!!!
@@ontherebel11dude thanks you’re the best! We had a ton of fun for sure.
Thanks my friend for sharing that my wife was nervous the first time she rode with me now she as her own bike great ride along
That’s awesome dude 🤘🏻
I gave up riding when we got married for kids, bills, etc. I got back into it when the kids were gone. I rode solo for about a year and my wife wanted to ride with me, I told her it's like Wonkavision. She acted a lot like Raven at first. Hyperventilating with the helmet on. Our very first ride, not a mile from home I had to emergency brake...By the time we got to our lunch spot, She wanted to ride longer. Now we ride across country and love it.
@@ShutterUp that’s fantastic! Thanks for sharing. She’s excited to ride again for sure
Cool video man, could see she was having fun. I will add my comment to the others that pointed out that the riders do not _need_ to lean at all. It is the bike that leans as a result of your counter-steering inputs, the riders should not lean, especially when riding 2-up (unless you are doing 90 on a sport-bike on track trying to drag your knee around corners).
"Act like you are a sack of potatoes" is the classic best advice to passengers.
Any movement of the passenger just interferes with the riders control of the bike, which is very dangerous.
Nice video though, apart from the dodgy advice 🙂
Time to go get her a Triumph Speed 400, perfect learner bike. 😎
Need to get her something lol 🤘🏻
My wife was scared all her life of motorcycles. She finally rode with me and at 50 decided to take MSF and got a Honda Rebel. That was a year ago. Last week we got her a triumph bonneville and she is having a blast.
@@loosingparts6159 that’s awesome! I ride a rebel 1100 myself typically.
@@therideofalifetime we’re both on triumphs. Got our own little gang 😂
Proud of you raven
That was great! What kind of bike was that?
@@davidmmuench Yamaha raider 1900 it’s my friends he let me borrow specifically for this.
Bike wave!!! 😂😂😂
@@FYERFIGHTER pretty freaking funny lol super cute though lol
About 6 years ago I got a bike, again. My girlfriend's response was: 'I have always wondered what it's like', so I got her a helmet and on the back she went, gentle ride to the cinema, all good. Then on the way back we hit the empty motorway and I throttled it, I heard her scream and thought, 'yeah, that's the end of it now FFS!'. We got home, she clampered off the back, ripper her helmet off, stared at me me and said: ' NEVER again ! I want my OWN !'. She is now on her 3rd bike and loving life on her Street Triple.
That’s awesome dude! Funny story! But I love it 🤣
I begged my wife to ride on the back of my bike around the neighborhood. She finally went one time. She leaned so hard in the opposite direction I almost had to hang off the bike & drag my knee to turn at 20 mph. It was as scary for me as her. Went home after 5 minutes. She said that was more scary than roller coasters & she has ridden dozens. I did tell her lean as I lean. Don't fight it, just lean with me.
Raven are you sure your not Liz from Michigan....lol you acting just like my ex did although we not together thx for bringing back good memories and also remember these your sharing with your man right now because you will get a fantastic kick out of these memories just like I have remembering mine thx again Raven
Reminded me of my wife's first ride. She was holding me so tight that I couldn't sit up straight. A year later and she was "chair dancing" to my music as we went down the highway.
Hahah that’s fantastic!
Looks like you gotta get a bigger bike or get Raven her own. She got it down though.
In a different life, I would've loved to ride
@@Pault3788 I’m sorry did something happen to where you weren’t able to?
@@therideofalifetime money
me and wife have been riding together for 40 yrs and i dont even know she back there. and we have hit the dragons tail many times
Heck yeah man I wanna do the tail of the dragon so bad lol
I love seeing people getting exposed to motorcycles in a good way. As far as leaning, what i have always done if the bike has a sissybar is tell them to put that in the middle of their back and keep it there. So if the bike leans to the left the bar will move with the bike and they should move with the bar..
Thank you for the advice! She will get better over time. She’s excited to go again!
Tell her to make herself one with the bike. If she's capable to understand that. I'm sure she'll get more comfortable.
Yeah she will get better with time for sure. Not bad though for her first ride.
Yamaha shouldn't have dropped The Raider from production.
There's things you should've told her before you rolled. you should've explained to her to keep her feet on the pegs, even if you're stopped. Put your back against the backrest and stay with it. become one with the backrest. the passenger doesn't worry about the leaning. they need to be the backrest. you should've let your buddy Jesse give her the ride. you don't seem very experienced.
It was my first ride with a passenger and yes I did tell her all this before we got moving but she was nervous and forgot stuff. It happens. I did fine with her and Jesse did the exact same with his wife. I didn’t do anything dangerous with her and she got better the more she rode. We didn’t have any issues either just had a fun ride and I’m glad she got to experience it.