How Record Players Work
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- How Record Players Work
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The humans that invented the record deserve alot of credit. Its very complex especially for such an old technology
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@@thirdrayle no printer
@@kawaki1207 bye 💀 don’t bring this to RUclips 😭
@@sanudajayasinghe3357 LMAOOO
It’s truly incredible, I’ve been staring at these old records for years wondering . Thanks RUclips lol I have many records but no record player. Searching
This is great. I've always wanted to know how a record player works. And now I still have absolutely no idea.! Thanks!
Lol right! Like HOW do the groves turn into so many sounds!?!?
Fr how do vocals come out like I’d be more chill if it was just random notes of instruments but syllables and shiz is heard and not to mention it doesn’t loop the same phrase it plays full songs how does that work
Wait till you realize that as long as you can code the groves to make vocals and instrument sounds, real vocals and instruments aren’t really necessary. The groves sending signals to the speakers can reproduce any sound.
TRUEEEEEE! HAHAHA
So if I have a blank record I can just etch grooves in it and potentially create a musical masterpiece? I just find it astonishing that simply making grooves in vinyl can replicate drums, bass, vocals, etc
To the average consumer a blank record would be better used for correctly setting the anti-skate dial on a turntable.
You could, but you likely wouldn't hear what you'd expect. The exact vibrations of the music are etched into the vinyl when pressed. You could certainly try your own etching as Thomas edison did, but you still need to amplify it to hear it properly.
@@THEBATMAN28AHH not only that you would have to etch the grooves in such a way that botch sides on the needle get their share
@@rene.flores9466 to get stereo yes, but for mono audio whatever you etch is fine.
@@THEBATMAN28AHH oooo thanks for the knowledge
So, since every single explanation of how grooves on a piece of plastic become music makes it all sound even more complicated, I'm just going to assume that it's magic.
Did you even watch the video?
@ignisan6560 I watched it and I understand where the OP here is still wondering how grooves, needle, etc, become music. All of the technical explanation in the video makes sense, but it's still mystifying how a groove on plastic contain accurately recorded sound. How the needle and electrical signals get picked up and everything makes sense, but the plastic groove part is still kind of amazingly mysterious.
@@chungkingexpress94 exactly! I understand the explanation, it just still doesn't seem adequate for some reason. Like, it's just grooves on plastic and you put a needle on them and electricity makes music happen. I get that. But I still don't completely understand. Lol
@andrewmettler2228 yup lol. Like how does the plastic groove have Led Zeplin recorded into it? Lol
It’s based on the principle that a varying magnetic field creates/produces an electric current . you can figure it out further on your own ig
No matter how many videos I watch on how to understand these, I will never understand. I do not comprehend lmao
I literally don’t understand how music is transferred to a record grove. It blows my mind.
@john templeplate how do you imprint sounds to a plastic?
@john templeplate I have questions
1. How many songs can fit into a Vinyl record?
2. If a Record can fit like 6 or more songs for ex. How is it that a 3 minute song can fit into a singe circular groove and the needle can still play the music even if it rotates back and forth?
Please scratch question number 2 if its not a circular groove
@john templeplate thats true i havent owned a record player yet lol only saw vinyl records. thanks thooo!
There is some physics that was not explained and honestly the topic is pretty confusing overall.
Yeah I still don’t understand how little groves make certain sounds and how that sound has different tones 🤷🏻♂️ I’m actually more confused than before 😂
This is my copied comment as this question popped up in the whole comment section haha:
When you listen to stereo music you literally only have 2 channels.
In modern day DAW (audio software) some producers/audio engineers mix up to, sometimes even more then 100 channels, into only 2!
Imagine, when listening to mono music (like the built-in speaker of your smartphone or when you're not in the right listening spot) you're listening to just 1 channel of audio!
In other words, you can differentiate all these instruments out of 1 single audio channel reaching your ears.
Even the concept of what is an instrument in an audio recording is to some degree arbitrary.
When you're à kid with no knowledge about certain instruments & timbres, you don't classify/define the sounds your shearing as certain instruments, you just hear the whole.
We humans define what we're hearing as certain instruments, based on knowledge of and prior listening experience.
In the studio certain instruments are layered. So what you believe to be 1 specific instrument might be mixed in the studio as 20 separate tracks, yet you personally experience/define it as 1 specific, definable instrument.
Because in the end, it's just a sound wave, subjectively interpreted by our human brains. (good nor bad music don't physically exist, it's a subjective experience by the individual listener or the group of listeners)
To an alien listening to a stereo vinyl recording, it will probably just sound as random noise.
To YOU, it sounds like drums, bass & guitar.
You can study this with ethnic music.
When certain tribes were studied, they perceived both major as minor western tuned triad chords as neutral. A lot of musical perspective is purely subjective and ingrained by the place & time you were born, with what sounds/music you grew up with.
I play shakuhachi (a traditional Japanese instrument) and I can tell you that the traditional repertoire isn't what you probably perceive as 'music'/expect music to be.
There's an emphasis on different sound colors and usually an absence of metered tempo. The moments where you breathe for example, are actually part of the piece.
Certain 'notes' like an ou and a chi meri, besides having relative pitch differing from one instrument to another, have the same pitch in western terms but a vastly different sound and are notated and described as being actual different tones.
Meri notes are supposed to sound less forceful (taijitu principle, yin & yang like in Taoism which comes back in zen traditions) and more melancholic like.
In comparison, the tones on a western concert flute are supposed to have a consistent timbre, the tones on a shakuhachi are supposed to differ in timbre. Different musical traditions, although the shakuhachi wasn't initially a musical instrument, nowadays it is.
I like to call the shakuhachi an acoustic synthesizer for that reason. haha. :)
In Japan they have called it the instrument of the ten thousand sounds.
Sounds like a synth !
Our modern day, western, equal temperament, 12 tone, octave based, exponential pitch perception based, A=440 Hz, way of playing music is just one of many ways you can play/'make' music.
Or another viewpoint is that of synesthesia.
I associate certain frequencies with certain colors.
Music is like a canvas/palette to me, with higher notes being actually higher up on the painting and echoey & reverberating sounds extending inward the canvas like a 3D painting. Certain purer sounds with less overtones like a simple sine wave are more rounded while more complex sounds tend to look more squiggly and spikey.
I love synthesizer music, especially from the 80's. I'm not surprised myself with all the different kinds of timbres and layers that make the pallette full of colors and different kinds of strokes (like a paint brush) and squiggles.
And so on...
Of course this is associative, what's usually referred to as 'true' synesthesia is actually seeing sounds or actually feeling sounds or actually tasting words, etc.
So in other words, I'm probably not what they clinically describe as a synesthete. It't something that grows with me and didn't come out of the blue or has always been there, hence associative. And it's not always there in my mind. Higher quality sound does rend to help.
With closed eyes it becomes a bit clearer as well though.
Most people actually tend to describe music and sounds in general in synesthetic ways, like 'warm', 'hollow', 'huge', 'in your face', 'pumping', 'muddy', etc.
In short, your brain turns the noise coming out of 2 channels (or 1 or more then 2 when surround) into defined instruments because you learned to associate certain noise with a certain image.
When you hear a guitar, you're also seeing it, thinking about it.
When an alien hears that same guitar, he/she/it doesn't hear a guitar, it hears noise. (or their own instruments if they happen to also have musical traditions, if they can hear sound waves in the first place that is, maybe they see microwaves and taste sound waves like a human synesthete, maybe they're not even carbon based...)
Sound is just a vibration of molecules, usually air, after all. YOUR BRAIN TURNS THAT SOUND INTO DEFINED INSTRUMENTS AND MAKES YOU FEEL THINGS
* To further clarify. How can you hear more then 2 instruments in a live band setting, when you only have 2 ears?
The vinyl is just a way to cause the vibration. The vinyl literally contains an imprint of the refraction and compression of material (the stylus, arm, speaker cone and then the air, although the mechanical vibration from the arm first becomes an electrical voltage before hitting the - pre- amplifier, then a vibration again when the speaker cone moves and vibrates the air with it).
In other words, the vinyl contains like an image of the sound wave in some sense. For stereo records it contains 2 images.
* To further clarify. How can you hear more then 2 instruments in a live band setting, when you only have 2 ears?
The vinyl is just a way to cause the vibration. The vinyl literally contains an imprint of the refraction and compression of material (the stylus, arm, speaker cone and then the air, although the mechanical vibration from the arm first becomes an electrical voltage before hitting the - pre- amplifier, then a vibration again when the speaker cone moves and vibrates the air with it).
In other words, the vinyl contains like an image of the sound wave in some sense. For stereo records it contains 2 images.
Now this is my personal explanation. So I hope I make sense and don't spread misinformation. Personally I wouldn't know how this would work otherwise. This is just how vibrations tend to work. The vinyl contains an imprint of the sound. The amplification and speakers bring it into the air around us. Our brain makes the music.
kjell159 I’m confused on a whole other dimension now ,but thanks 🤣
@@XAGR-hn3qt I'm confused why everyone is so confused?
@@kylehill3643 how similar looking grooves make different effects
@@kjell159 nice
I would’ve loved to see the faces of the individuals who tried over & over to make this happen and finally make it happen
This is so interesting. I've always wondered how they worked. My guess was that there were ridges but had no idea how they were interpreted. Thank you so much for this simple explanation
How tf do they record for a record though?
they very precisely etch it into metal or something which is known as the master record. they then make two molds of it for side one and two. then they but a chunk of vinyl, kind of shaped like a burger, and literally press it with the two stamps. I may have got some stuff wrong so watch this for an in depth description: ruclips.net/video/wqJ0ouQScM8/видео.html
The video was blocked! dammit so now how are we gonna know how their made
They use a lathe (a record cutter) to cut the groove on a special master. A lathe is reversed phonograph. From the master disk four copies are made to get the strong master metal negative, one for each side, with is then pressed onto a vinyl cake (A doughnut sized hot bloob of vinyl) with great pressure. Viola! A flat vinyl record
I have a cague idea but basically as you speak thru a microphone the needle vibrates and it carves the grooves of the disk.
you take a digital file, like wav or mp3, mostly wav because its lossless and convert it into a analogue format. so you take digital 0s and 1s (zeroes and ones) and make them into a soundwave, the soundwave is the groove on a vinyl record! (simple explanation)
Could have saved time by telling us it's Dark Magic
i just binge watched every video of yours. I'm just getting into vinyl and these are by far the best videos I've come across. :) definitely going to give a sub
Thanks so much Kyle! That's why I make them! So everyone will have a great community to be a part of!
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so some sounds waves sound like a guitar and some sound waves sound like like Leonel Richie? needs more explanation.
Yeah thats what i was wondering... Sbout how the black disc records people in the first place to make grroves accordingly. Can someone give an explanation of how the grooves are calculated?
Not really. The fact that one sound waves sounds like a guitar and another sounds like Lionel Richie has nothing to do with vinyl records and everything to do with the waveform. Vinyl, being an analogue medium simply stores the waveform 'as is' in the grooves of the record.
How does it require more explanation? It’s the same principle whether it is in the record or the actual real sound wave.
if we analyze the 'one vibration' made by the needle, when I sing while playing guitar and my son screaming plus the heater buzzing and birds tweeting - all at the same 1/nth second. It's just one small scratch on a plastic....how come it can store all that info?
These vibrations are just vibrations. Your brain is what interprets the soundwaves as different instruments.
Excellent video Jarrett. I wanted to do a video like this myself for people new to record collecting, but I don't think I could've explained it better in simple terms.
+Funky Moose Records Glad you liked it dude!
*I appreciate how you explained it so very much! Shows that you understand it well! Thank you!*
If you are confused: Just imagine the grooves on a vinyl record as a soundwave, because it is basically a soundwave cutted into the record. And a soundwave contains alreade all the sounds, for example the beat, the melody, the instruments, the vocal at the same time. Also the needle goes left right and up and down
Awesomely understandable explanation. It’s really amazing how it all works and such vintage technology.
very clear, finally ! thank you !
Thank you, record players have perplexed me for such a long time.
DANG IT MAN. I was doing so good studying but I JUST HAD TO go on RUclips. "Oh look a Vinyl Eyezz video Ive never seen i would be so delighted to watch this." I SAID THIS 20 MINUTES AGO MAN. NOW IM STUCK IN RUclips PRISON THANKS TO YOU.
+Max Kanaszka haha :)
20 minutes? You got off easy, I've been stuck in here for years!😩
the artist wait what
I'm stuck in RUclips and can't get out😝
Sooooo much better than the "basics" video you posted, for a new beginner this is way more informative.
This is 3rd video I've watched on YT about "how vinyl disc" work and finally I got satisfied answer. Good work, thanks :)
That's absolutely fantastic! Thank you Jarret New!!!!!!!!!!!
Finally a video that explains everything.
Man this is awesome very well explained thanks
Best explanation I have found !
Wow! Great Man and thanks a lot for explaining this machanism by a simple and efficient way! Thanks!
Fairly new subscriber here. I've been loving your videos so far, new and old :)
BTW I love the Kung Fury frame in the background!! I have that album as well. I love soundtrack albums!
Thanks Jarrett! I shared this to our Audio FB page. Hope you get lots of likes!
Awesome! Thanks so much for sharing my video!
explained so beautifully🔥
Thanks, that was a pretty good explanation.
So Cool, i learned so much in 3 mins... Thanks Broooo... i grew up in the 90's and i swear i use too just analyze the records how they would just spin, and always wonder how music would come out.
Amazing ! Thank you
I've been trying to figure out how records work. This video was great insight
now i can sleep peacefully :D thanks
You learn something new everyday, dude I always wondered how
How is soprano, bass, vocals, etc etched in the plastic? How does the plastic hold the memory of the sounds? I get vibration, but how are different frequencies keep inside the PVC groove? In the groove, you have a singer a guitarist, drummer, all at the same time but the diamond going over the pastic can then separate those individual sounds? I just don't get it.
joe budi there is a thing called “mix” in studios.
Yeah same that is what I was looking for too.
I'm researching this as well. It's so interesting that even the most complicated soundwave is actually such a very simple binary piece of information. No matter how many different tones and pitches our ears can decipher.
@@caseycolson4252 in a groove pressed into a hot vinyl plate!!! Wow!
exactly! people wanna know how these "grooves" can send vocals through the needle let alone a specific voice and words? this dude answered nothing
This is a great video about "Stereo" records. You should do one about "Mono" and "Quad". The Quadrophonic system (very short lived) was quite complicated. Not only did the needle (stylus) move side to side, but up and down. The effect was amazing. Many artists actually recorded completely different versions of their albums for the Quad releases. The whole system was an early production of "Surround Sound" If you ever get a chance to hear one, it's quite a thrill. Unfortunately there were too many bugs in the format, and it just died away. There were also "Quad 8-tracks" which used 4 tracks instead of 2 for the recording, so instead of 4 playing positions, there were only 2. These sounded great in a car, and had your ears spinning around the passenger compartment. Again a short lived format.
The stylus moves horizontally and vertically in all stereo records. That's how the stereo signal is formed: each channel is encoded in a diagonal (and the lateral movement produces a sum of both signals, and that's why you can play a stereo record in a mono player and vice versa). Quadrophonic records used supersonic signals to carry the additional information that allows the separation between front and back. That's why those records demanded special equipment to be played.
Well explained...I am familiar with the concept, but poor at explaining the complete picture. Thanks for clarifying it.
Thank you, it helps me to UNDERSTAND it aLOTT..
Geeked out here. Damn that's amazing. Thanks for that explanation.
Finally a better explanation
I've just finished a rewatch of the final episode of the anime Dr. Stone, in which they create a rudimentary record player from stone age materials, and I was left with wanting to understand the base principle of how it works more clearly, so I ended up on this video. I've got to say, I don't think I could find anything that's easier to understand than this; you've really explained in simple terms and simple illustrations, and it made it so easy to understand. I can now go to bed having learned yet another cool thing, thanks to you! ^^
Great video and very informative. Maybe you should do a video about different kinds of cartridges, not just moving magnet. Great channel and keep up the good work. God bless!
Thanks, I didn't know that before :D
Humans are great
Thank you very helpful
Wow, this is a really good video. I'm a CD collector, but I've always wondered how records work. Thanks for presenting the information in an easy to understand way. It's always great to lean something new!
Great video!
+Ssshenkie thank you!
I understand how the grooves in the record translate to sound but I don’t understand how each groove is able to capture multiple different overlapping tones at the same time such as vocals, bass, and guitar that are being played simultaneously
If you are confused: Just imagine the grooves on a vinyl record as a soundwave, because it is basically a soundwave cutted into the record. And a soundwave contains alreade all the sounds, for example the beat, the melody, the instruments, the vocal at the same time. Also the needle goes left right and up and down, left right is one channel, up down is the another
Random passerby. Just wanted to say this was a great video you answered all of my questions about the voodoo that is record players.
good explenation. Liked it.
The best explanation
Love this
A technical correction. In a stereo cartridge the moving element, in this case a moving magnet, is at the focal point of a 90 degree triangle where adjacent and opposite lines are made up of two sensing coils. Movement in the left track will cause the moving element to move toward and away from the left coil thus changing the magnetic flux coil and causing an induced electric current in it. As it is moving to and fro vis a vis the left coil it must then be moving accross the right coil. However, such movement will not alter the magnetic flux in the right sensor coil and therefore no current will be induced into it. For this to work as faithfully as possible, the moving element must be positioned exactly at the focal point of the two sensors. This is one of the reasons why tracking force is so important. Too light ot too heavy and the moving element will be out of position.
It's strange that there are so few likes
I am actually new to LPs and I am obsessed with buying LPs. It is like this feeling of "I WANT MORE". Hahahahha...but I asked myself the question of this video as well, I knew it had something to the with grooves, but how the grooves get "converted" to music or music into grooves --> NO CLUE. But now I know! Thank you!!
+Alexandra Gomes Sure thing! Glad you liked the video!
Nice xplained
The question just popped in my mind in the middle of online class and I can't get rid of it lmao
awesome vid
after the vibration of magnet from the needle are the induced magnetic fields from coils that make magnet to oscilate?
This video definitely makes sense.
First of all, love the video.
May I ask tho’, where can I get those cool vinyl display “hangers” you have back there on the wall? I’m thinking about every single and pretty possible way to display some of the best ones I own and this is something I would really want. The ones on amazon doesn’t hold them from the side like the ones you have, so I can’t find any “identical” ones. Thank you!
Groovy!
great information, and cute too!!! :)
I’m not a part of this community; I just wanted to understand how vinyl records work. But this RUclipsr has a great voice and cadence
Thank you for this video! Always wondered how they worked.
Good explanation
I never really thought about it, but music is pretty scientific. You have to experiment with things, and eventually you find a thing that sounds good, and you try to understand how to make more sounds that sound good and then you need a way to share these sounds with others and somehow along the way they discovered the harmonic nature of sound.
what determines which coil the magnet is vibrated towards or is it just random? By left channel does he mean left speaker?
Thank you
How are sound waves converted to a press to make records though?
Then are those grove lines in the form of Coil in the disc?
Whats to stop me from using a needle to etch grooves in a record? How does that create the sound of a guitar or other instrument?
Yes I totally understand what you just explained, because I totally didn't skip the video to 10s every second.
I like the Mitch Murder record in the background
Nice im literally listening to elvis on vinyl while watching this lol
Amazing
awesome babaiiii
Yesterday when I explained the sound recording to the professor in your language, they were also surprised
So how does it make different sounds and signals if the only options are left or right
Thank you. When vinyl eyezz explains how a record player produces the sound from a record, vinyl mentions a boost before the vibrations get seperated into left and right and we hear a sound (in theory). I wonder what the boost is like? Anyone have thoughts on this?
Hello there! Great video thanks for that! I just wanted to mention one thing: as far as I understood, with a stereo signal the stylus is bouncing up and down and left and right. That's actually w I came across your video in y research. It's a 3 dimensional movement. If you think about it, if it was only moving left and right how could that be a 2 channel transference? Clearly I'm not certain about this but it's something I've been contemplating & the up and down while also moving left and right makes sense to me.
Jarret! Love ur videos! Very informative! I'm about to start my vinyl collection and ur videos are helping a lot! Im investing in the audio technical lp120. I see that u replaced the needle (stylus) does that make a huge difference in sound?
+Carito Mtz Awesome! Glad you're going with a great quality turntable! Yes, I upgraded to the Ortofon 2M Red, which was a definite boost in the overall quality of the sound. Everything sounds way more clear and defined!
+Vinyl Eyezz I appreciate you taking the time to reply! I am definitely going with the turntable that you have and automatically upgrading the stylus to the one you have on ur set up! Do I have to upgrade the cartridge as well or can I just use the same cartridge that it comes with the 120?
Brilliant and simple explanation, thank you. And thank you for not taking 18 minutes to do so
What would be cool is if hot links were some how included on different parts of the explanation to learn furthermore such as the coils would have a link on it to click and learn about how electromagnetic coils work.
so does it mean that to make a PVC for a particular sound, the grooves must be produced accordingly?
Am I the only one that think records are much more complicated than cd/tape
So the top layer of the groove is the left vibrations and the bottom is the right. So my left ear listens to the top layer and my right to the top. Are those grooves like real sound waves?
You missed an important point about the phono stage (pre-amp), this must also perform a frequency correction called RIAA equalisation. Vinyl is recorded with a bass suppression, RIAA boosts this back on reply. This is important, many people new to vinyl need to understand that a phono pre-amp or phono stage must be used.
Goodness, you explained this way better than BBC's video
I'm not surprised for the new recorder I'm surprised for this old recorder. Because that's how it works with a needle. And how it makes sound
For those still wondering how the sound gets produced, realize that all sound is simply a vibration. When the needle vibrates on the record grooves, the "sound" is simply the speakers translating the vibrations into what we perceive as music.
I love this video bc it answers so much, yet nothing at all😭😭
Piezoelectricity!! Used in many many branches of science. Sweet I never guessed that
I THOUGHT THAT AND THIS WAS THE FIRST COOL THING I SAW
Man jarrett you have grown alot in a little bit of time you were at like 530 subs now 711 that just shows how great your videos are. And my dad has way more records than you probably... I really appreciate the content
+Marcusd1213 haha glad you liked that little joke. I'm so happy people are liking my videos! I'm definitely trying my best to keep bringing you guys the best stuff I can :) Thank you for watching
+Vinyl Eyezz And in 5 months, you have 6k subs :O
GG MAN!!
68 K now, almost 70!
7 years later.. 228k subs
I'm so glad I help my vintage amplifier. It has both MC and MM correction within it and so I do not neeed a preamp.
Personally, I would chose a turntable with as few 'add-ond' as possible. So pre-amps, USB connectiors, forward and reverse modes etc are just wasted on me. I prefer for my money to be spent on what a turntable must do as well as possible - spin vinyls spot on the required speed, perfectly level and with no rumbly noises together with a tonearm that gives minimum resistance to movement and whicih will allow the cartridge to track acccurately accross the disk
Please tell us someday about phono cartridge break in period. This is a a doubtful issue i've heard. Thanks!
I've heard a lot of people say 50 hours is a good break in period, but honestly it's a matter of opinion.
I think the left side of the groove would move the stylus towards right coil and viceversa, try to emulate the movement with your own arm
Back when we had a software industry computer programs well written ones would have those kinds of things like DK'S How Things Work. For some reason I can somehow see the DK Wolly Mammal showing how it works. Phsyicus which works on Windows 10 ironically enough is a great example with a good British narrator where you use what you learn in the adventure.
Do u have any trick to fix records damaged by sun Heat?
What stylus do you use/recommend? What's the difference between magnet and phonograph cartridges?
+Erik Wehner I use the Ortofon 2M Red! It's a great little cartridge with lots of texture and detail. I'll make a video about the differences between those two cartridges soon!
+Vinyl Eyezz Thank you! I'll be on the lookout for that video. Keep up the good work, I appreciate that you actually take the time to reply to peoples comments; excellent content as always.
+Erik Wehner thanks for watching my videos! Of course! I welcome good comments and feedback! :)