True , miguel has better overall techniques. HD literally knows both Miyagi do and cobra kai style. Rather than giving points on intelligence and iq you should have included these points
@@russell9758no he really wasn’t there was no kick that can beat Johnny the only reason Johnny lost in his prime because he let his emotions of winning get the best of him
@@Dekulifestory That’s simply hyperbole. If I’m somebody’s sensei and I say that he’s unstoppable, obviously you’d look at me and say that I’m wrong. Kreese is wrong. It was clearly an exaggeration of a statement and because some fans can’t accept that the og characters got surpassed a very long time ago in the show, they hold onto it like it actually has value. It doesn’t. “Prime” Johnny Lawrence is getting smoked by Kenny.
Bro that wasn’t his prime bro, athletically yes, but Johnny wasn’t nowhere near as good as most of the main teen fighters rn. You see him pulling off that 540 kick Miguel did or anything in the hawk and Robby fight?
No Chance Miguel is Very Rigid and Strengthen than Johnny You can See the Size and Muscles of Both , Johnny's Speed is Isane but Miguel is Stronger than Robby qnd Johnny was Just a Student who only taught by Kreese on the other hand Miguel has been taught by Johnny , Chozen , Kreese and Daniel . NO KK Kid can Beat Miguel as his BIQ , Combat and Strength is more than Any Ck and Kk Students and we can watch it in Robby vs Miguel S5 ( Apt Fight and Dojo Fight ) in which Miguel has thrown away all these Students
As he should S2 Robby has all the skills and techniques as KK3 Daniel. So Miguel being able to beat said Robby, should scale near KK3 Daniel who beats KK1 Johnny. S5 is massive overkill.
@craigmckenzie4967 Kress would know him better Than himself, but I guess he could've been exaggerating, however he was still insinuating that Johnny would've eon if he hadn't lost focus.
This is so very true, in Season 5 I think Miguel was at his best and full potential because he had learnt Miyagi-Do and had basically mastered Cobra kai, meaning he could use defense also mixed with offense, while Johnny in Karate Kid 1 didn’t learn any defense and was pure offense. Miguel could easily have the upper hand against young Johnny since he can defend and attack at the same time, which kinda actually makes it a little unfair if you think about it. Johnny was physically stronger than Miguel and probably faster combat speed wise, in running speed terms I think it’s equal, since both seem to run the same speed. Miguel wins low-mid diff in tournament, and high diff in street fight.
Miguel S5 vs Johnny KK1 Strength - Miggy Speed - Johnny (was really fast in the tournament go watch the movie kidzos) IQ - Miguel BIQ - Miguel => Experience - Miguel Skill - Miguel Combat - Miguel => Combat Speed - Johnny Overall Kicks - Miguel Overall Punches - Johnny => Power - Miguel Durability - Miguel Endurance - Miguel Vision/Reflexes - Johnny => (really close) Stamina - Johnny Hax - = Technique - Miguel Aggression - Johnny Battle Experience - Miguel Battle Knowledge (who knows more moves and how to do them) - Miguel Offense - Miguel => Defense - Miguel Attack Potency - Miguel Destructive Power - Miguel => Agility/Versatility- Johnny Flexibility - Miguel Feats - Miguel => Winner - Miguel S5 22 - 8 Mid Diff
Bro imagine Johnny Lawrence fakes his death in a 30 years sequel of cobra Kai from now and Johnny and Miguel fight and Johnny Lawrence says “You forgot, I taught you everything you know.”
Bro miguel wins bcz he was trained alot till s5 . I know he was in hospital sometime bcz he fell of stars in fight But still in s1 how muched he would be trained
Miguel season 5 would definitely win i mean a older version of jonhy teached him and we can't forget that a older version of daniel traiend as well, so yes is it
@@cmon9505a famous quote idk if this is how it goes but besides the point “ I would fear a man that has thrown one punch 1000 times over a man that has thrown 1000 different punches 1 time “ just knowing loads of different fighting styles doesn’t make you stronger than someone who has expertised one style as much as Johnny has
@@SecretF2PAcc Miguel has mastered offense and defense since 1. Terry states he’s one of the best fighters in the valley 2. Daniel says to Sam that he feels the student is surpassing the master and we all know Miguel > Johnny
kreese only tought johnny offense(that is the best form of defense )but after he lost that championship johnny left if he continued training he prob would be better +johhny was a better sensei
People say Johnny wins but Miguel’s offence and defence it’s actually really good because Johnny taught him the offence that kreese taught Johnny and he has the defence that Daniel taught him which he was taught by mr miyagi and Miguel has a strong relationship with Johnny and he had a bit of it with daniel as well
Okay, intelligence and battle intelligence are free points for miguel, but miguel still wins even if I don't include those two stats
No he wouldn’t it would be johnny (I ment without the free points Johnny would win I’m not saying Johnny is better then Miguel)
True , miguel has better overall techniques.
HD literally knows both Miyagi do and cobra kai style.
Rather than giving points on intelligence and iq you should have included these points
Hey
You must of never watched ck or kk
@@natedoesgaming3722bro he's comparing young jhonny ain't no way jhonny gonna win💀💀
Johnny Lawrence said in season one to Miguel “you have the potential to be better than I ever was”
Season 2, actually but yeah, the first episode of season 2
Potential but Miguel would need to grow more to surpass Johnny + Miguel has potential doesnt mean that S5 or S6 Miguel can beat Johnny yet
@@MVPOverLordZSX stop It. This was not prime johnny. Prime johnny Is current Johnny. S5 miguel negs kk1 johnny with no- low dif
@@hookey2688buddy do yk prime? Johnny in his like 40s to 50s
@@unknow1738but do u think Johnny back then is beating Johnny now that know both styles?
"THERE'S NO KICK THAT CAN DEFEAT JOHNNY LAWRENCE IN HIS PRIME! " -Krees
W quote
It's kreese
@@GrahamReppert-y8gKreese is delusional
@@russell9758no he really wasn’t there was no kick that can beat Johnny the only reason Johnny lost in his prime because he let his emotions of winning get the best of him
@@Dekulifestory That’s simply hyperbole. If I’m somebody’s sensei and I say that he’s unstoppable, obviously you’d look at me and say that I’m wrong. Kreese is wrong. It was clearly an exaggeration of a statement and because some fans can’t accept that the og characters got surpassed a very long time ago in the show, they hold onto it like it actually has value. It doesn’t. “Prime” Johnny Lawrence is getting smoked by Kenny.
Bro did iq, battle iq, intelligence, and battle intelligence as 4 points😂
Fr like what😂
Fr
He did that just so Miguel would win but Johnny is the true goat
Johnny also gets speed
@@G_Money100 MIGUEL STILL WINS
Don't Compare The Master With Student....
Student eventually supercedes the master
@@masudbillah6196not always. Definitely has in this case tho.
The master was also just a student back then
It will come to a point...where the student surpasses there master
John Kreese: Respect your elders
The student has surpassed the teacher
Bro Miguel is 18 and Johnny is like 50. Miguel might be better than young Johnny but nowhere near Johnny currently
Man gave Miguel 2 extra points for battle intelligence and intelligence twice
And he gave Johnny a point for "mobility" so... I don't think there was any bias here, probably just for a longer video.
@@adebolaosimuwa120 yeah
Bro forgot who taught Miguel and who taught Johnny💀
Ruthless Agression.
😂💯
In season two Johnny said “you have the potential to beat me in high school” I think he said that.
@@Trollface_reacts388nigga stop lying he ain’t say ts I watched it everyday
@@Trollface_reacts388johnny says that Miguel can be a better person, being better than him.
Johnny lawrence in his prime💀💀
Miguel cant handle the old johnny now, how in the hell would he have defeated him in his prime😂
This prime johnny you're talking about struggled against a daniel that didn't have much knowledge about karate
Bro that wasn’t his prime bro, athletically yes, but Johnny wasn’t nowhere near as good as most of the main teen fighters rn. You see him pulling off that 540 kick Miguel did or anything in the hawk and Robby fight?
U think his teenager self can beat his adult version 🤣
@@randomstuffhmHe got trained by the strongest martial artist in the verse tf you mean “not much knowledge about karate kid”
@@tristanmireles8994he can
Tbh guys I think Johnny will actually have a chance to beat Miguel 👀🤓
that's what i was thinking
No Chance Miguel is Very Rigid and Strengthen than Johnny You can See the Size and Muscles of Both , Johnny's Speed is Isane but Miguel is Stronger than Robby qnd Johnny was Just a Student who only taught by Kreese on the other hand Miguel has been taught by Johnny , Chozen , Kreese and Daniel . NO KK Kid can Beat Miguel as his BIQ , Combat and Strength is more than Any Ck and Kk Students and we can watch it in Robby vs Miguel S5 ( Apt Fight and Dojo Fight ) in which Miguel has thrown away all these Students
@@serenelgames1076size of muscles doesn’t mean strength. By your logic the rock would win against prime mike Tyson
So true
Bro really said Miguel 💀😭
He wins dumbass rematch the whole cobra Kai because even Sam beats him
As he should
S2 Robby has all the skills and techniques as KK3 Daniel.
So Miguel being able to beat said Robby, should scale near KK3 Daniel who beats KK1 Johnny.
S5 is massive overkill.
He’s right
He’s right
bro just look how miguel season 5 fights and how old and slow the kk1 karate mives are miguel slams mid diff ngl
Miguel gets strength because even in season 2 he was able to break a steel railing which is a greater feat the Jonny breaking a sign
Fax
Miguel fanboy
@@Calypso-2015 how?
Can’t wait to see what season 6 has got for us 🥶
fine now ?Lol
Miguel❤❤❤
Silver said "there is no kick that can stop Johnny Lawrence in his prime"
Johnny winns his speed is underadet
fax
Fax
Jonny Sola😈😈😈
best edit ive seen
Nice job love the sound
MIGUEL DIZ S1 🐍🔥💥 PARA 1
really good edit nice job
Bro learned it Mac Donald’s bathroom Johnny Lawrence kk1 is the goat 😂
He's a fodder
"I taught you everything you know, but I didn't teach you everything I know"
Speed goes to johhny
Yes
fax
Wrong.
Bro gave feats to johnny 😂
he won more tournaments, and has better accolades as a student. he easily takes feats
@@juicee1483nah
fax jhonny has more feats then miguel ever had in his life
@@Pegnowijkno Miguel has more feats in every category
If not for an illegal kick to the face, Johnny would have won 3 All Valley Tournaments in a row. His feats far surpass Miguel’s.
"There wasn't a man alive who could beat Johnny Lawrence in his prime"
-John kreese
That’s not the quote
@foodisnice2913 you're right it was "there wasn't a kick" or whatever but same thing he was still insinuating nobody could've beat him while focusing.
@@infertrapyeah but that’s Kreese, who himself admitted that Johnny is his weakness. I don’t think that was a factual statement.
@craigmckenzie4967 Kress would know him better Than himself, but I guess he could've been exaggerating, however he was still insinuating that Johnny would've eon if he hadn't lost focus.
Bro hit me with the karate rizz
This is so very true, in Season 5 I think Miguel was at his best and full potential because he had learnt Miyagi-Do and had basically mastered Cobra kai, meaning he could use defense also mixed with offense, while Johnny in Karate Kid 1 didn’t learn any defense and was pure offense. Miguel could easily have the upper hand against young Johnny since he can defend and attack at the same time, which kinda actually makes it a little unfair if you think about it. Johnny was physically stronger than Miguel and probably faster combat speed wise, in running speed terms I think it’s equal, since both seem to run the same speed. Miguel wins low-mid diff in tournament, and high diff in street fight.
True
Miguel loses because he studied with Johnny Lawrons , and he taught him not much worse than Chris
Q
at first i thought young johnny was stronger than old.
He is
@@SecretF2PAcc no way
You can’t even prove that
@@trevormandouma using logic why would an old drunk Johnny beat prime Johnny
@@SecretF2PAcc Johnny ain’t drunk all the time he isn’t even in season 5
Can kk1 Johnny break stone
@@SecretF2PAccwell no, prime johnny is just way more agile and faster, current johnny is easily stronger.
Miguel S5 vs Johnny KK1
Strength - Miggy
Speed - Johnny (was really fast in the tournament go watch the movie kidzos)
IQ - Miguel
BIQ - Miguel =>
Experience - Miguel
Skill - Miguel
Combat - Miguel =>
Combat Speed - Johnny
Overall Kicks - Miguel
Overall Punches - Johnny =>
Power - Miguel
Durability - Miguel
Endurance - Miguel
Vision/Reflexes - Johnny => (really close)
Stamina - Johnny
Hax - =
Technique - Miguel
Aggression - Johnny
Battle Experience - Miguel
Battle Knowledge (who knows more moves and how to do them) - Miguel
Offense - Miguel =>
Defense - Miguel
Attack Potency - Miguel
Destructive Power - Miguel =>
Agility/Versatility- Johnny
Flexibility - Miguel
Feats - Miguel =>
Winner - Miguel S5 22 - 8
Mid Diff
Bro really gave johnny kk1 feats 😅
‘High diff’.
One point difference be like: *I’m just a hallucination.*
Strenght, Combat, Feats Goes to Miguel
Bro i love this editing! Its the best thing i have ever seen bro i mean it
I am subbing and i used this sound for 2 vids if thats alright🎉❤
Bro no way Miguel gon win Johnny was the best cobra Kai student when Miguel didn't even see all of cobra Kai's training
I’m taking Johnny he taught him everything that young Johnny knows
I think the only points Miguel should’ve got where iq, defense, and feats
Everything but strength goes to Miguel
Imagine if Johnny kept training but he got kicked out of the dojo
Tournament- Miguel low diff
Street fight- Miguel mid diff
Tournament Miguel Mid diff
Street Fight Johnny Mid diff
@@MVPOverLordZSX tournament low diff
@@TechyWis yeah agreeable
@@MVPOverLordZSX ye cause I mean KK1 Daniel who was injured still destroyed and beat a Johnny who had to cheat
Both low diff he was taught by Johnny himself he would know all of his moves and then some
Song name?
Kicks goes to johnny as his master said his kicks were unstoppable
Fax
How do you get that quality
Capcut
@@Glend-m2t💀
@@noahkferro. ?
@@Glend-m2t I asked how to get that quality not editing software
I love your video
Bro imagine Johnny Lawrence fakes his death in a 30 years sequel of cobra Kai from now and Johnny and Miguel fight and Johnny Lawrence says “You forgot, I taught you everything you know.”
Strength and speed switched around
lol bro rly said Miguel😂🤣🤣
miguel is overkill
Bro miguel wins bcz he was trained alot till s5 . I know he was in hospital sometime bcz he fell of stars in fight
But still in s1 how muched he would be trained
“What are you NuTzZ??”
Miguel is the goat 🐐
S2 Miguel > extreme diffs
The vid is good
Finally an edit that gives johnny experience
yeah he is the teen with most experience because he trained for 5 years
@@aydster9 exactly
@@GenesisX173 yeah
@@aydster9 👍
Johnny would bully him till he cries
I wouldn't joke with Johnny
Bro called the flying tornado a 540 kick
It is called a 540 degree kick…
Miguel season 5 would definitely win i mean a older version of jonhy teached him and we can't forget that a older version of daniel traiend as well, so yes is it
Johnny had been training (theoretically) years before daniel got there
Miguel gets strenght, combat and stamina and Jhonny gets combat speed
Speed and Kicks to Miguel 😂😂
Watch Johnny in his Prime
Johnny would win cuz he taught Miguel everything he knows and still teaches him more.
Miguel actually knows more than young johnny
Miyagi do
Eagle fang
Cobra kai style.
Ez win
@@cmon9505 my bad I forgot about miyagi do
@@cmon9505a famous quote idk if this is how it goes but besides the point “ I would fear a man that has thrown one punch 1000 times over a man that has thrown 1000 different punches 1 time “ just knowing loads of different fighting styles doesn’t make you stronger than someone who has expertised one style as much as Johnny has
@@SecretF2PAcc Miguel has mastered offense and defense since 1. Terry states he’s one of the best fighters in the valley 2. Daniel says to Sam that he feels the student is surpassing the master and we all know Miguel > Johnny
@@trevormandouma he hasn’t mastered either
Quality is amazing
Strength is kind of debatable in my opinion but still goes to Johnny fire edit
Miguel is already much better
Miguel by season five beats Johnny in every single category
Agility, AP(Durability=AP) and Stamina-Miguel
Miguel(S5-Rage) wins Low Diff
Miguel(S5-Base) wins Mid Diff
Honestly I think Johnny still wins. He had way more experience and was scaled by kreese as a youngster to be leagues better than s2 Miguel
New sub
Miguel is supposed to have agility and stamina over johnny
Nice
Name of the song?
Johny wins cz he taught miguel everything and miguel does not actually use miagi do ..but this is kk1 johhny ..but kk2 johny wins high-extreme diff
What track is that?
Battle iq should go to Johnny. He is literally a sensei and learned from kreese , so he has more information about karate than Miguel does.
Combat Speed for Johnny
Johnny easly tskes speed combat speed
Wow how do you make this Graphic and this slow mo
lapusso defeat johnny was a joke
young johnny is the quickest fighter in the verse, he easily gets speed
I wold say prime Miguel season 2
Bro just said Miguel better while but when we fight we need strength speed iq only +Johnny so fast
Song?
W edit and fax
loco pero si yo ni Lauren fue el que le dio clases a Miguel Díaz
Accept it or not, jony in kk is the goat
Miguel was better since season 2
kicks is johnny in my opin.
Battle iq,endruance,offence johnny
bro strengh miguel
Everything goes to Miguel except experience
Name music?
Johnny could beat Miguel any day of the week
This is a close fight it could go either way
kreese only tought johnny offense(that is the best form of defense )but after he lost that championship johnny left if he continued training he prob would be better +johhny was a better sensei
People say Johnny wins but Miguel’s offence and defence it’s actually really good because Johnny taught him the offence that kreese taught Johnny and he has the defence that Daniel taught him which he was taught by mr miyagi and Miguel has a strong relationship with Johnny and he had a bit of it with daniel as well
Bro said battle iq then said battle intelligence
I love Miguel
This guy has to watch kk1
Of my good edit that you made
It can go either way but Miguel season 5 extreme difficulty