DEFENDING GIBSON: Gibson obviously spent TENS of minutes and TENS of dollars in research and development on this BRAND-NEW-NOT-AT-ALL, COMPLETELY-REDESIGNED, UTTERLY-THE-SAME SJ-200 that they have been making for decades. Same bracing, same dimensions. It’s an insult. AN INSULT! And I’m going to buy one, stick it in the closet, and have my grown kids sell it when I’m 6 feet under. You’re welcome, kids.
Very nice inaugural Podcast gentleman! You two should get together and do this more often. I have a 2002 Martin D-18 GE (Golden Era) that CF Martin IV signed the underside of it's Red Spruce top, while the guitar was going through the production line. And he also signed the paper label that's glued to the inside of the guitar. This means way more to me than what this SJ200 represents. Very nice video.
fantastic inaugural podcast, lovely gents. i appreciate all-things-TOM+TONY! also, 'twas very rad of you to mention rosie's work-her guitars are gorgeous .. .
Bruh, Fender has a $20,000 Frusciante strat coming out soon. Got my Jimmy Page SJ-200 for $11.5k brand new no tax. Easy decision. The base SJ-200 sells for $6000 and they are like a pound heavier on average than the weights I was seeing of several Jimmy Page SJ-200s. BIGLY is probably the best folk rock song of all time, and its their best song. That SJ-200 on BIGLY has the best recorded acoustic tone of all time. If you're a Jimmy Page fan, this is the ultimate guitar to get. I've been waiting for this guitar for decades. BTW, Sweetwater sold out of these in a single day. They're not on Reverb anymore either. Let's compare the value of your Firebird and my SJ-200 in 10 or 20 years. Your point at 10:25 is completely invalid, Gibson already tried changing the formula with the robot tuners and other BS like that. People want it to be 1963 spec, period.
@@NytronX my point is perfectly valid, the robot tuners were just BS, like you said. Doesn’t mean they should stop trying to innovate. If you like your new guitar and it makes you happy, that’s fantastic.
I love the way Tony laughs. He puts all of it up front the first couple seconds then cuts it off to look like the most serious person anyone can be. Hilarious 🤣 😐
Hey Tom , Tony , I sub to both of you . Tom , the macassar mahogany / german spruce guitar came out sounding very nice . It's new owner is very happy , thanks for your advice . Tony , don't see enough of your content these days . Peace ✌
Hello Tom, first time I’ve viewed your channel and you guys had some real interesting topics. I’ve been following Tony for some years so I’m sure that’s how it popped up here in my feeds but I’m glad. Your comments about the Jimmy Page SJ-200 were spot on, between that bridge and the clown~burst they decided to go with had me laughing and I am a fan of Page’s music, that guitar not so much 🤣 Thanks for the cool discussion guys 🤙
My brother has an Elvia Presley signature model J200 in black, and it sounds amazing, so I like how Gibson have a different look than the boring Martin Taylor look. I like how you do your own thing Tom, you have a creative belief in yourself. And that sexy girl of a guitar says it all. Absolutely love the headstock and the fact that it’s original and organic.🤩😍
I don't see a problem here. It's being offered for sale. Someone who has the money to spend and wants one may choose to buy one. Everyone else will just move on.
I can't believe how cheap the event is, I'd pay £30 just to meet and have a chat with Will. Honestly what you're doing is amazing and I hope more stuff like this happens in the future.
Podcast name suggestions: Diplomatic cynic ( or The Cynical Diplomat), or T n T? This or That: single malt or blended? Earl Grey or Working Man's? I P A or Pilsner? Cotton or wool? Great show and beautiful guitar!
@TomSandsGuitars It conveys a classy cool insider perspective, safe for celebrities, "exclusive", insider, laid back, mentoring, inside information, etc. The term "green room" generally refers to a backstage room where performers wait before going on stage. It's the place where people show off their instruments, it's where some custom guitar makers try to sell their stuff to top billing performers, it's where people talk about guitar, jam, get drunk and high, and screw groupies. It’s used across various performing arts especially live music, stand up comedy, television talk shows and live concerts. In the us, there's many bars, restaurants, music venues named Green Room. There you'll find Actors, artists, musicians, and even magicians! So it's instantly recognizable to most live performers. The green room serves as a place for performers to relax, prepare, or gather before their performance. Despite the name, a green room doesn’t necessarily have to be painted green, it's just a VERY OLD industry term. Some people call it "back stage" but people on the INSIDE, like performers, all know it as "the Green room".
For the same money you can buy a nice old Les Paul Gold Top,pay to get luthier work done, and have a fantastic tone machine. Most players hate the trapeze bridge,but that can be upgraded these days and a pro craftsman can reset the neck angle to 54 or 55 specs. The important point is that the wood is almost 200 years old and the guitar will sing all day like a high quality violin or viola. I am not interested in paying 15 grand for that special Gibson aging and baking process. Or, are we supposed help Gibson pay their Super Lawyer retainer fees for the DiMarzio Pickups litigation ? I love old Gibson electric guitars, and I hope and pray the Corporate Leadership at Gibson Guitars decides on day soon to start wearing their heads right side up on the shoulders. Thanks for great posting!
Only the Collectors Run of 50 run was actually played by Jimmy. I have one of the 50 and I think it is very speciial to have a guitar that Jimmy chose to recreate. He not only signed the back of the headstock, but he actually played the 50 collectors edition run, each fopr about 4 minutes. And, it comes with the actual pick he used to play it with. I didn't buy this guitar becuase I needed another one to play. I bought it because I am a huge JP fan and it is a safe investment that I can actually enjoy. Especially because it is aged.
Safe investment? I am not so sure about that. If Gibson keeps up flooding the market with questionable "authentic" reissues like they do these days, it might be a miscalculation. Especially when they take run-of-the-mill guitars and upgrade them just by letting the signature artist play them for 4 minutes each and/or sign them. At least you got some Jimmy Page DNA delivered with it (sweat, dandruffs). But, of course, it´s your decision and as long as you are happy with it...
Wow, love your guitar Tom; especially the open headstock; never even thought you could make them like that. Super cool. And yeah, Ive never been much impressed with Gibson's way of doing things, so this is another example. Glad to see Tony on here; you guys both know you're shit.
I was under the impression that Page borrowed the guitar from Big Jim Sullivan who was a session guitarist that Page knew and worked with during his session days...there is clip of Page playing White Summer on that guitar on the Julie Felix show in 1970...(fyi, the video portion of the clip is severely damaged but you can definitely tell what guitar Page is playing....you can find it on YT)
Stringbreak_UK sounds like the UK version of the B.I.G. event in Texas. A very intimate show. Less pejorative on the builder ages at B.I.G, pretty much open to all. WRT SJ200, what a snooze.
Jimmy doesn’t tour and hasn’t in a decade. He’s basically retired, and if I recall has considerable hearing loss. An artist model for an artist that doesn’t perform anymore and thus can’t provide input to help develop an artist model is definitely a cash grab.
If Fender or Gibson et al heard a famous musician played air guitar when they were younger....they'd make a custom shop air guitar, a master build air guitar...etc Don't start me on the "based on a 59, 62 blah blah blah" !!!
I’ve always shunned signature guitars because they just seem like a way for companies to add a little to the bottom line at year end. The celebrity signature or endorsement means very little to me and wouldn’t factor into a purchase decision. Having said that when I was introduced to a very special 00028ECM (Carpathian Spruce /Madagascar Rosewood) I broke down and instantly opened my wallet. The price was dear but the guitar was as fine as any I have ever played or heard, and that is a lot of very fine acoustic guitars. Martin struck gold with the various iterations of the Clapton 000 because they had their priorities straight. The guitar first and foremost is a fantastic instrument. It’s superbly well made, very attractive (despite the shell signature on the fretboard), not over the top cosmetically and reachable by mere mortals. Gibson missed the boat here because the guitar itself is simply not a very good instrument. The price is simply put, stupid!
Tom is absolutely right about the J200, they are awful in a lot of ways: Not very loud, the bulky bridge with the inlays and next to no neck angle means getting a reasonable action is not easy. Not too sure if he has thought about doing an homage to the marque, I'm sure he could outshine the build quality, but price would be a great issue then.
This guitar is not aimed at players. It is aimed at stockbrokers, lawyers, doctors and accountants with money to burn. Sure it is a cash grab. And there is a market for it. And if it keeps prices for player guitars down, then that iscgreat. My personal preference is for vintage Gibson archtops, but I love my Hummingbird Artist and J-185EC. I was eying a 2017 Super 200, but the J185 is more than big enough for me. I think that the griping over these limited models makes both of you look like the fox in the fox and grapes fable. Tony, the rest of this so far, including the unveiling of the parlor guitar, is much more interesting and worthy of watching.
Hey thanks for watching and commenting, I appreciate it. I’m not sure it sour grapes, there are plenty of valid reasons for not liking this guitar and the marketing fluff behind it but I take your point and maybe we focus on the positives more in future episodes. Cheers!
What Dan said re: Gibson’s cynicism! Great fun guys and well done Tom for bigging up “darn sarf” Rosie’s Turnstone guitars - check out her new Artisan range (custom, sort of but also “off-the-shelf”). The whole high-end, acoustic guitar world waits with bated breath to finally hear Tom’s new XS-parlour guitar! Maybe in the next episode..?
My option Gibson SJ-200 & Gibson Hummingbird are the more Ugly looking Guitar on the Planet bridge saddle, giant pick guard & them inlays way over the top. I wouldn't pay 2p for them abhorrent guitars. Buying a Jimmy Page Guitar won't make you play like Jimmy Page just like you learn Bruce Lee Style of Martial Arts JKD or the Real thing Wing Chun Do ' You will Never be Bruce Lee ! Making Jimmy or Bruce your idol when you 10 is ok. But when you're older you put them silly ways behind. Bruce Lee was a Great Martial Artist but he was a Feckin Asshole his a Human Being ! Thumbs up to you Tommy & Tony Cheers Guys
Jimmy was known for being notoriously cheap he played a cheap Danelctro and mostly played a lot of cheaper Acoustic guitars that he liked, he had a Hoffner, a Harmony , and a Yamaha. He borrowed a Gibson 200 Acoustic guitar from a friend to record with. Though after the first two albums he bought a Martin D28. Fact: He played Stairway to Heaven on the Harmony.
He played Martin's on stage with LZ and later he used Washburns touring with Plant. And didn't he use a Harmony Sovereign on Stairway? Rick Beato did pretty elaborate video recreation of Ramble On, in accordance with LZ session lore. The guitar was big Vox acoustic with a bolt-on neck. Smells like more of a cash grab.
IMHO the most obvious cash grab since the ridiculous "most authentic" re-re-re-issue of the 59 PAFs in a kinda grandma jewels box. One mans stupidity is the other mans profit. The more stupid people, the higher the gain.You don´t even have to be very inventive. This worked long before Snake Oil and will obviously work until the self-inflicted end of the human race on this planet.
Yeah, it's definitely a cash grab. But there only making them because people are buying then. It is also cool to see cezar getting artists back working with gibson after so many bridges were burned in the past. I would argue every big manufacturer is doing the exact same thing to a different extent. It's nice to see you guys together again. Still down after acoustic tuseday ending.
I get this "everyone wants to feel like their idol" which of course they do. But Jimmy Page didn't play the "Jimmy Page Signature SJ200" guitar, Mark Knopfler didn't play the "Mark Knopfler Signature '58 Les Paul" and Eric Clapton certainly didn't play the 000-28EC at the Unplugged concert... so keep being cynical!
What's crazy is most of these reissues are more expensive than the originals, I have around 15 60's-70's Gibsons mostly Les Pauls and 335's their built much better with the exception of post 74 Norlins.
@@TomSandsGuitarsI know it's the internet but it seems kind of crass to me to heavily criticise another guitar before reviewing your own guitar in such gushing terms. There's no need for it. The soundhole pictured is from a guitar I have built.
I love Page….I love bursts….I love J200s….but not this. Its not the most subtle burst is it? The bridge ….wheres that confounded bridge. Maybe its IS the “confounded bridge”.
If you need a $14k-$20k guitar to inspire you to play music , you may want to go see a psychiatrist . In 1938 the SJ200 was $200 , which is $4500 adjusted for inflation . Today a SJ200's are around $5500 -$5800+ .
When all the termites don't die the structure must be retented. and the borrowed guitar?....John Bonham threw it in the fire pit an poured lighter fluid on it and appreciated the sweet perfume of burning maple. Kids don't try this at home. Only the greats are allowed to burn guitars in fire pits. ; )
A blatant cash grab. They made 1 of these for old Jimbo and expect common citizens to buy the rest of the inventory to make up for the costs. Meanwhile, they are giving guitars away to some girl in GA.
Even if I had the money I would never be gullible enough to buy one of these nonsense guitars. If Gibson and Martin hadn't forgotten how to make a great guitar then these editions would be more acceptable.
Maaan, I think Gibson jumbos are SO ugly too. There is not a single thing I find to be attractive about them as an instrument. I always feel like that is an unpopular opinion though. The majority of Gibson guitars I see I find to be quite ugly though, honestly. They just look garish and flashy to me. I think the J-45 and L-00’s are decent looking guitars but way overpriced for what they are. Anyway, I am gratified to know I am not the only one who thinks Gibson jumbos are just butt ugly.
For 20k they should make videos of him playing and signing every guitar before shipment. Gibson is on crack, literally, my 2016 Freddie King cracked in the top. So many better guitars out there for $3500!
Jeeez... 15 to 20 k for a guitar with such a questionable tone killer bridge (not to confuse with a killer tone bridge 🤣)? It´s definitely for all who got more money than talent. Seems to mie that Gibson does this aolso to make the run-of-the-mill stuff look cheap and affordable.
@@TomSandsGuitars Well it sucks big time and stopped me watching any further than the intro. I've watched plenty of videos here all the way through that don't have such abrupt and annoying editing
@@DiggoryDiggory Duly noted. Believe it or not, it’s really difficult to judge what people will respond well to and what encourages people to keep watching or in your case, not. Maybe skip the first 10 seconds and enjoy the long form conversation. Thank you
Seeing Tony Polecatro makes me automatically click off. So many years of him demanding we should subscribe at the very start of every video has turn me sour to his voice and appearance. Sorry but it happened. can't watch the TS.
Guys .. talking about the price is one thing but mocking the design of the J200 that sold by thousands .. 😂 from an unknown dude .. this is ridiculous.. This guitar is gorgeous … what a ridiculous and pathetic comments .. this show is a shit show 😅
I agree with Tom and Tony but I would add that to me Gibson acoustics are mass produced and without sole. Maybe back in the day they had something to offer but the SJ 200 nowadays may as well be made from laminate. I am of the Led Zep era and don’t remember Jimmy Page being particularly associated with acoustics. Sure there are tracks like Bron y Aur stomp and Stairway to heaven but my overwhelming memories were his Les Pauls and Double necked SG. For the money you could buy a handmade acoustic with a unique voice which are a real joy to play.
@@TomSandsGuitars I’m also a big fan of slotted headstocks, always have been I have a number of Fyldes including Ariel’s in redwood/bubinga, redwood/Claro walnut, spruce/brazilian. The Ariel is mr B’s small 12 fret with slotted h/s. IMO Fylde could sell for much more ££. Would love to try one of your builds but I don’t have a budget so won’t waste your time. I am following your work & I hope that interest in handmade acoustics continues so that you can carry on exploring you art. Keep up the good work “unknown dude”! 😂
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DEFENDING GIBSON: Gibson obviously spent TENS of minutes and TENS of dollars in research and development on this BRAND-NEW-NOT-AT-ALL, COMPLETELY-REDESIGNED, UTTERLY-THE-SAME SJ-200 that they have been making for decades. Same bracing, same dimensions. It’s an insult. AN INSULT! And I’m going to buy one, stick it in the closet, and have my grown kids sell it when I’m 6 feet under. You’re welcome, kids.
I’m dying 😹😹
Tell me how you really feel
Very nice inaugural Podcast gentleman! You two should get together and do this more often. I have a 2002 Martin D-18 GE (Golden Era) that CF Martin IV signed the underside of it's Red Spruce top, while the guitar was going through the production line. And he also signed the paper label that's glued to the inside of the guitar. This means way more to me than what this SJ200 represents. Very nice video.
Thank you very much! Would love any suggestions for future episodes.
fantastic inaugural podcast, lovely gents. i appreciate all-things-TOM+TONY! also, 'twas very rad of you to mention rosie's work-her guitars are gorgeous .. .
Glad you enjoyed it!
Bruh, Fender has a $20,000 Frusciante strat coming out soon. Got my Jimmy Page SJ-200 for $11.5k brand new no tax. Easy decision. The base SJ-200 sells for $6000 and they are like a pound heavier on average than the weights I was seeing of several Jimmy Page SJ-200s. BIGLY is probably the best folk rock song of all time, and its their best song. That SJ-200 on BIGLY has the best recorded acoustic tone of all time. If you're a Jimmy Page fan, this is the ultimate guitar to get. I've been waiting for this guitar for decades. BTW, Sweetwater sold out of these in a single day. They're not on Reverb anymore either. Let's compare the value of your Firebird and my SJ-200 in 10 or 20 years. Your point at 10:25 is completely invalid, Gibson already tried changing the formula with the robot tuners and other BS like that. People want it to be 1963 spec, period.
@@NytronX my point is perfectly valid, the robot tuners were just BS, like you said. Doesn’t mean they should stop trying to innovate. If you like your new guitar and it makes you happy, that’s fantastic.
I love the way Tony laughs. He puts all of it up front the first couple seconds then cuts it off to look like the most serious person anyone can be. Hilarious 🤣 😐
Gets me every time
Lovely headstock design!
Thank you so much
Enjoyed that… nice one guys😊👏🎶 K.
Thanks for listening
I really really wish I could attend String Break
♡♡ Tom & Tony ♡♡ luvUguys
Maybe next time!
Hey Tom , Tony , I sub to both of you . Tom , the macassar mahogany / german spruce guitar came out sounding very nice . It's new owner is very happy , thanks for your advice . Tony , don't see enough of your content these days . Peace ✌
Right on!
Hello Tom, first time I’ve viewed your channel and you guys had some real interesting topics. I’ve been following Tony for some years so I’m sure that’s how it popped up here in my feeds but I’m glad. Your comments about the Jimmy Page SJ-200 were spot on, between that bridge and the clown~burst they decided to go with had me laughing and I am a fan of Page’s music, that guitar not so much 🤣
Thanks for the cool discussion guys 🤙
PS : Fantastic open headstock design on your current model, love it.
@@TommySG1 thanks for joining us! Glad you enjoyed it and welcome!!
My brother has an Elvia Presley signature model J200 in black, and it sounds amazing, so I like how Gibson have a different look than the boring Martin Taylor look. I like how you do your own thing Tom, you have a creative belief in yourself. And that sexy girl of a guitar says it all. Absolutely love the headstock and the fact that it’s original and organic.🤩😍
Thank you Simon
I don't see a problem here. It's being offered for sale. Someone who has the money to spend and wants one may choose to buy one. Everyone else will just move on.
Fair enough!
Beautiful work, love that headstock, back is fabulous
Thanks very much!!
Fantastic video/cast!!!
Thanks bud 💖
Thanks!
Welcome!
I am new here on this channel. Thumbs up, very entertaining!
Thank you very much!
I can't believe how cheap the event is, I'd pay £30 just to meet and have a chat with Will. Honestly what you're doing is amazing and I hope more stuff like this happens in the future.
Hopefully you can make it?
@TomSandsGuitars oh it's abit too far afield for me but I would have loved to have come
Podcast name suggestions: Diplomatic cynic ( or The Cynical Diplomat), or T n T?
This or That: single malt or blended? Earl Grey or Working Man's? I P A or Pilsner? Cotton or wool?
Great show and beautiful guitar!
THANK YOU SIR! I like TNT 🧨
The new model is my favourite to date!
I think it might be mine too
I LOVE the new x-small. LOVE it.
Thanks bro!
Show name suggestion : "The Green Room"
@@SuiGenerisMan what’s the inspiration?
@TomSandsGuitars
It conveys a classy cool insider perspective, safe for celebrities, "exclusive", insider, laid back, mentoring, inside information, etc.
The term "green room" generally refers to a backstage room where performers wait before going on stage. It's the place where people show off their instruments, it's where some custom guitar makers try to sell their stuff to top billing performers, it's where people talk about guitar, jam, get drunk and high, and screw groupies.
It’s used across various performing arts especially live music, stand up comedy, television talk shows and live concerts.
In the us, there's many bars, restaurants, music venues named Green Room. There you'll find Actors, artists, musicians, and even magicians! So it's instantly recognizable to most live performers.
The green room serves as a place for performers to relax, prepare, or gather before their performance.
Despite the name, a green room doesn’t necessarily have to be painted green, it's just a VERY OLD industry term. Some people call it "back stage" but people on the INSIDE, like performers, all know it as "the Green room".
@ we are nothing if not classy and cool 🕺😉 thank you!
Gorgeous guitar @Tomsands
Thank you sir!
For the same money you can buy a nice old Les Paul Gold Top,pay to get luthier work done, and have a fantastic tone machine. Most players hate the trapeze bridge,but that can be upgraded these days and a pro craftsman can reset the neck angle to 54 or 55 specs. The important point is that the wood is almost 200 years old and the guitar will sing all day like a high quality violin or viola. I am not interested in paying 15 grand for that special Gibson aging and baking process. Or, are we supposed help Gibson pay their Super Lawyer retainer fees for the DiMarzio Pickups litigation ? I love old Gibson electric guitars, and I hope and pray the Corporate Leadership at Gibson Guitars decides on day soon to start wearing their heads right side up on the shoulders. Thanks for great posting!
Thanks for the thoughtful and interesting comment!
Tom, what years did you apprentice with Ervin?
2015-2017
Only the Collectors Run of 50 run was actually played by Jimmy. I have one of the 50 and I think it is very speciial to have a guitar that Jimmy chose to recreate. He not only signed the back of the headstock, but he actually played the 50 collectors edition run, each fopr about 4 minutes. And, it comes with the actual pick he used to play it with. I didn't buy this guitar becuase I needed another one to play. I bought it because I am a huge JP fan and it is a safe investment that I can actually enjoy. Especially because it is aged.
If it makes you happy and inspired to play, that’s all that really matters.
Safe investment? I am not so sure about that. If Gibson keeps up flooding the market with questionable "authentic" reissues like they do these days, it might be a miscalculation. Especially when they take run-of-the-mill guitars and upgrade them just by letting the signature artist play them for 4 minutes each and/or sign them. At least you got some Jimmy Page DNA delivered with it (sweat, dandruffs). But, of course, it´s your decision and as long as you are happy with it...
Wow, love your guitar Tom; especially the open headstock; never even thought you could make them like that. Super cool.
And yeah, Ive never been much impressed with Gibson's way of doing things, so this is another example.
Glad to see Tony on here; you guys both know you're shit.
Thank you!
I was under the impression that Page borrowed the guitar from Big Jim Sullivan who was a session guitarist that Page knew and worked with during his session days...there is clip of Page playing White Summer on that guitar on the Julie Felix show in 1970...(fyi, the video portion of the clip is severely damaged but you can definitely tell what guitar Page is playing....you can find it on YT)
That sounds about right, I knew it didn’t belong to him but couldn’t remember who he’d borrowed it from. Thanks for commenting
Stringbreak_UK sounds like the UK version of the B.I.G. event in Texas. A very intimate show. Less pejorative on the builder ages at B.I.G, pretty much open to all. WRT SJ200, what a snooze.
Hope it will be as successful!
Jimmy doesn’t tour and hasn’t in a decade. He’s basically retired, and if I recall has considerable hearing loss. An artist model for an artist that doesn’t perform anymore and thus can’t provide input to help develop an artist model is definitely a cash grab.
Feels like it huh?
Shellac is the greatest man. His Travis Bean aluminum guitar through that Bassman..........screaming good stuff.
@@stereoandy77 so so good. So glad I got to see them before he went
If Fender or Gibson et al heard a famous musician played air guitar when they were younger....they'd make a custom shop air guitar, a master build air guitar...etc Don't start me on the "based on a 59, 62 blah blah blah" !!!
🤣🤣🤣🤣 love it
Loved the video, especially the “cynical” guys views lol and this video gave me some really good laughs.
Haha, thanks! Glad you liked it.
I’ve always shunned signature guitars because they just seem like a way for companies to add a little to the bottom line at year end. The celebrity signature or endorsement means very little to me and wouldn’t factor into a purchase decision. Having said that when I was introduced to a very special 00028ECM (Carpathian Spruce /Madagascar Rosewood) I broke down and instantly opened my wallet. The price was dear but the guitar was as fine as any I have ever played or heard, and that is a lot of very fine acoustic guitars.
Martin struck gold with the various iterations of the Clapton 000 because they had their priorities straight. The guitar first and foremost is a fantastic instrument. It’s superbly well made, very attractive (despite the shell signature on the fretboard), not over the top cosmetically and reachable by mere mortals. Gibson missed the boat here because the guitar itself is simply not a very good instrument. The price is simply put, stupid!
Thank you for your thoughtful comment! Happy picking! 🙏
Tom is absolutely right about the J200, they are awful in a lot of ways: Not very loud, the bulky bridge with the inlays and next to no neck angle means getting a reasonable action is not easy. Not too sure if he has thought about doing an homage to the marque, I'm sure he could outshine the build quality, but price would be a great issue then.
Honestly, I’ve never liked the jumbo format, not for me. Thanks for watching and commenting!!
Surely the podcast can just be called ‘Got Wood?’
🤣
A Pete Townshend J200 signature would've made more sense historically and factually.
I wouldn’t want that either, talk to me all day about John Entwistle signature models though 😉
Or a Greg Lake J-200.
This guitar is not aimed at players. It is aimed at stockbrokers, lawyers, doctors and accountants with money to burn.
Sure it is a cash grab. And there is a market for it. And if it keeps prices for player guitars down, then that iscgreat.
My personal preference is for vintage Gibson archtops, but I love my Hummingbird Artist and J-185EC. I was eying a 2017 Super 200, but the J185 is more than big enough for me.
I think that the griping over these limited models makes both of you look like the fox in the fox and grapes fable.
Tony, the rest of this so far, including the unveiling of the parlor guitar, is much more interesting and worthy of watching.
Hey thanks for watching and commenting, I appreciate it.
I’m not sure it sour grapes, there are plenty of valid reasons for not liking this guitar and the marketing fluff behind it but I take your point and maybe we focus on the positives more in future episodes.
Cheers!
Makes me wonder if Jimmy Page is not having a bit of a snicker....nothing public...just in the back of his mind.
What Dan said re: Gibson’s cynicism!
Great fun guys and well done Tom for bigging up “darn sarf” Rosie’s Turnstone guitars - check out her new Artisan range (custom, sort of but also “off-the-shelf”).
The whole high-end, acoustic guitar world waits with bated breath to finally hear Tom’s new XS-parlour guitar! Maybe in the next episode..?
Hopefully Rosie will bring one to string break!
@ I think that’s a real possibility.
TTT: Tom, Tone & Tones 😉
T3
You’ve nailed it 🎯
@ 🙏
Sounds like Tony needs to binge watch some Tommy's Tonewoods episodes.😂
Haha! You hear that Tone?
My option Gibson SJ-200 & Gibson Hummingbird are the more Ugly looking Guitar on the Planet bridge saddle, giant pick guard & them inlays way over the top. I wouldn't pay 2p for them abhorrent guitars. Buying a Jimmy Page Guitar won't make you play like Jimmy Page just like you learn Bruce Lee Style of Martial Arts JKD or the Real thing Wing Chun Do ' You will Never be Bruce Lee ! Making Jimmy or Bruce your idol when you 10 is ok. But when you're older you put them silly ways behind.
Bruce Lee was a Great Martial Artist but he was a Feckin Asshole his a Human Being !
Thumbs up to you Tommy & Tony Cheers Guys
I'M NOT SORRY THEY'RE BUTT UGLY GUITARS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for watching and for your spot on comment!
Please send me that XS to demo IMMEDIATELY.
It’s coming
Jimmy was known for being notoriously cheap he played a cheap Danelctro and mostly played a lot of cheaper Acoustic guitars that he liked, he had a Hoffner, a Harmony , and a Yamaha. He borrowed a Gibson 200 Acoustic guitar from a friend to record with. Though after the first two albums he bought a Martin D28. Fact: He played Stairway to Heaven on the Harmony.
Thanks for the info!
I was told he played the D28 on Stairway... 🤔
@@flyingstratosurfer6285 Jimmy Page told the Metropolitan Museum of Art and Guitar World that he played his Harmony Sovereign on Stairway to Heaven.
@@flyingstratosurfer6285 He is seventy now maybe he is misremembering.
He played Martin's on stage with LZ and later he used Washburns touring with Plant.
And didn't he use a Harmony Sovereign on Stairway? Rick Beato did pretty elaborate video recreation of Ramble On, in accordance with LZ session lore. The guitar was big Vox acoustic with a bolt-on neck.
Smells like more of a cash grab.
Love Ricks videos!
IMHO the most obvious cash grab since the ridiculous "most authentic" re-re-re-issue of the 59 PAFs in a kinda grandma jewels box. One mans stupidity is the other mans profit. The more stupid people, the higher the gain.You don´t even have to be very inventive. This worked long before Snake Oil and will obviously work until the self-inflicted end of the human race on this planet.
We love Tom Sands don’t we.
💖🙏
Yeah, it's definitely a cash grab. But there only making them because people are buying then. It is also cool to see cezar getting artists back working with gibson after so many bridges were burned in the past. I would argue every big manufacturer is doing the exact same thing to a different extent. It's nice to see you guys together again. Still down after acoustic tuseday ending.
Thanks Kevin! It’s an honour to work with legend like Tony on this!
I get this "everyone wants to feel like their idol" which of course they do. But Jimmy Page didn't play the "Jimmy Page Signature SJ200" guitar, Mark Knopfler didn't play the "Mark Knopfler Signature '58 Les Paul" and Eric Clapton certainly didn't play the 000-28EC at the Unplugged concert... so keep being cynical!
Thanks Ads
What's crazy is most of these reissues are more expensive than the originals, I have around 15 60's-70's Gibsons mostly Les Pauls and 335's their built much better with the exception of post 74 Norlins.
Yup!
Goes on about an SJ200 being ugly then pulls out his own guitar that looks like a cricket bat
Talk to me about the sound hole in your profile picture, what’s going on there?
@@TomSandsGuitarsI know it's the internet but it seems kind of crass to me to heavily criticise another guitar before reviewing your own guitar in such gushing terms. There's no need for it. The soundhole pictured is from a guitar I have built.
@@radioking the irony of your comments is top notch. Thanks radioking
@@TomSandsGuitars Thanks Alanis
I love Page….I love bursts….I love J200s….but not this. Its not the most subtle burst is it? The bridge ….wheres that confounded bridge. Maybe its IS the “confounded bridge”.
@@petecoates6410 it’s a hard pass for me
Yep! Me too. Burst more like a stencil. 😫
Six-String Shenanigans
Oooooh
If you need a $14k-$20k guitar to inspire you to play music , you may want to go see a psychiatrist . In 1938 the SJ200 was $200 , which is $4500 adjusted for inflation . Today a SJ200's are around $5500 -$5800+ .
Each to their own, I suppose
When all the termites don't die the structure must be retented. and the borrowed guitar?....John Bonham threw it in the fire pit an poured lighter fluid on it and appreciated the sweet perfume of burning maple. Kids don't try this at home. Only the greats are allowed to burn guitars in fire pits. ; )
Exactly
When Jimmy says "kids" he means 50 year olds
Big kids
A blatant cash grab. They made 1 of these for old Jimbo and expect common citizens to buy the rest of the inventory to make up for the costs. Meanwhile, they are giving guitars away to some girl in GA.
Yeah interesting point
Even if I had the money I would never be gullible enough to buy one of these nonsense guitars. If Gibson and Martin hadn't forgotten how to make a great guitar then these editions would be more acceptable.
Gibson is trying to repeat the success they had with the Noel Gallagher signature models.
Which I suppose you can’t really blame them for
Of course it's a cash grab. That's what Gibson does, and that's what Jimmy does. They've done it before this and they'll do it again.
Yeah, no really getting around it
Maaan, I think Gibson jumbos are SO ugly too. There is not a single thing I find to be attractive about them as an instrument. I always feel like that is an unpopular opinion though.
The majority of Gibson guitars I see I find to be quite ugly though, honestly. They just look garish and flashy to me. I think the J-45 and L-00’s are decent looking guitars but way overpriced for what they are.
Anyway, I am gratified to know I am not the only one who thinks Gibson jumbos are just butt ugly.
Judging by the comments, I feel we share that unpopular opinion 🤝
🤝 well, there’s no accounting for taste.
Can U get it with nut size 1. 575..artist super taper.. T. You..
@@rogersimmons5410 get what?
For 20k they should make videos of him playing and signing every guitar before shipment. Gibson is on crack, literally, my 2016 Freddie King cracked in the top. So many better guitars out there for $3500!
‘Gibson is on crack’ should have been the title of the video
I love Jimmy, but everything he touches these days is a cash grab. It's gross.
Yeah it’s hard not to get worked up about
I’ll stick with my 2018 J35 that probably sounds better and got a rave review by Matt Chulka himself
Matt is the man!
Jeeez... 15 to 20 k for a guitar with such a questionable tone killer bridge (not to confuse with a killer tone bridge 🤣)? It´s definitely for all who got more money than talent.
Seems to mie that Gibson does this aolso to make the run-of-the-mill stuff look cheap and affordable.
Could be!
Blimey. The editing here makes this unwatchable. What’s with the jumping every second and a half?
It’s the intro. Pretty standard format. 👍
@@TomSandsGuitars Well it sucks big time and stopped me watching any further than the intro. I've watched plenty of videos here all the way through that don't have such abrupt and annoying editing
@@DiggoryDiggory Duly noted. Believe it or not, it’s really difficult to judge what people will respond well to and what encourages people to keep watching or in your case, not. Maybe skip the first 10 seconds and enjoy the long form conversation. Thank you
I sorry but Guitars are made to be played and not collected and never played. 20K……wtf!
Yup, it’s a hard no for me
I was most bummed about the Marc Bolan LP custom, total garbage.
When was that released?
Maybe 2010 not sure
Gibson guitar sj 200 ..
@@rogersimmons5410 go on
Marketing department running out of ideas.
Feels like it
Nearly as good as Jimi Hendrix puano
Come again?
Seeing Tony Polecatro makes me automatically click off. So many years of him demanding we should subscribe at the very start of every video has turn me sour to his voice and appearance. Sorry but it happened. can't watch the TS.
I’m sure many people think that about me to be honest 🤣
His picture is on the screenshot………..you still came here to whinge
@@johnmurray3346 god bless the comments section 🙏
Guys .. talking about the price is one thing but mocking the design of the J200 that sold by thousands .. 😂 from an unknown dude .. this is ridiculous.. This guitar is gorgeous … what a ridiculous and pathetic comments .. this show is a shit show 😅
@@Hankboomer you’re entitled to your opinion, just like we are. Thanks for watching 😘
I agree with Tom and Tony but I would add that to me Gibson acoustics are mass produced and without sole. Maybe back in the day they had something to offer but the SJ 200 nowadays may as well be made from laminate. I am of the Led Zep era and don’t remember Jimmy Page being particularly associated with acoustics. Sure there are tracks like Bron y Aur stomp and Stairway to heaven but my overwhelming memories were his Les Pauls and Double necked SG. For the money you could buy a handmade acoustic with a unique voice which are a real joy to play.
@@phillipbancroft7945 absolutely spot on sir
@@TomSandsGuitars I’m also a big fan of slotted headstocks, always have been I have a number of Fyldes including Ariel’s in redwood/bubinga, redwood/Claro walnut, spruce/brazilian. The Ariel is mr B’s small 12 fret with slotted h/s. IMO Fylde could sell for much more ££. Would love to try one of your builds but I don’t have a budget so won’t waste your time. I am following your work & I hope that interest in handmade acoustics continues so that you can carry on exploring you art. Keep up the good work “unknown dude”! 😂