A KNIFE BLADE FINISH - STONES INSTEAD OF SANDPAPER [Trollsky Knifemaking]

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  • Опубликовано: 26 дек 2024

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  • @theflyinggearman3128
    @theflyinggearman3128 4 года назад +165

    The fact that you show how you do your work in detail and share your tips and tricks says alot about you. Thanks man

    • @Trollsky
      @Trollsky  4 года назад +53

      thank you. What life would be if you can't share your knowledge and experience with other ...

    • @WJRD123
      @WJRD123 4 года назад +3

      His skill and teachings have inspired me to make a knife. No where near the master yet😄😄. One day hopefully I'll own one of them with the chilli peppers on them. Greetings from South Africa.

  • @ScratchandDentGarage
    @ScratchandDentGarage 4 года назад +22

    I owe this man a lot of credit. All the way to the USA, you have inspired me since I was young. I messaged you on Facebook when I was a young boy and showed you a knife and asked what you thought. It was the coolest time of my very early teenage years, maybe before then. I now have my own knife making business and I am so thankful for your videos!!

    • @ajhproductions2347
      @ajhproductions2347 Год назад +1

      Where can I find your work?

    • @ScratchandDentGarage
      @ScratchandDentGarage Год назад

      @@ajhproductions2347 I never have the time to make knives anymore because my career took over. But I’ll never forget what I’ve learned along the way!

  • @edwardnephew567
    @edwardnephew567 4 года назад +4

    Always a good day when a Trollskyy video shows up.

  • @socketman
    @socketman 4 года назад +5

    That's great, thank you.
    All your knife videos (movies) are some of the most inspiring as far as getting me excited to get back out in the shop and make knives.
    I've spent 20 hours hand sanding before with a much less perfect result, which you doing that in 1 hour shows what you can do with right technique.

  • @809bartuso
    @809bartuso 4 года назад +1

    This has changed my outlook on sanding as well! Just started using stones and it has been great . I agree it is calming now and I don't mind as much. THANK YOU FOR SHARING!! Be well.

  • @s10m0t10n
    @s10m0t10n 4 года назад +2

    Thanks for another video, Trollskyy. Clear, unhurried and a good explanation of how to get a really clean finish on a blade. Great work, as always.

  • @809bartuso
    @809bartuso 4 года назад +1

    I just got a small set of stones to give them a try 120 to 600. For me , the is awesome. You have to try these finishing stones if you are using sandpaper they are a great addition. Been making knives for close to 2 years and I am still learning, thank you to all you guys posting.

  • @TheExplosiveGuy
    @TheExplosiveGuy 4 года назад +14

    I've used those little stones for a while now, if you have a good variety of stones that have different hardnesses (there are harder and softer stone materials, some work better than others in different steels) and grades, you can do a lot more work than most people would think. Using the stone the way he is is the correct way to use it, the downward angle allows for maximum surface pressure on the stone, and the backstroke clears the cut. I would prefer a stone cut knife over a belt or wheel ground one any day. It involves more effort but it results in a much finer quality blade. These types of stones have been used by tool and die makers this way for centuries, you can make some amazing things with them.

    • @qwertyasdfghjkl9604
      @qwertyasdfghjkl9604 4 года назад +1

      Yes, these are classic moldmaking stones. One of the best in the world if we talk about abrasives (check also other things like sandpapers, polishing compounds, etc. specific for tool/mold industry).

  • @workshoplife3740
    @workshoplife3740 4 года назад +3

    it is always nice watching a master craftsman at work.

  • @DANNY6280000
    @DANNY6280000 4 года назад +1

    YOU MY FRIEND...ARE A LEGEND!!! Love from South Africa, keep up the videos..

  • @BeefaloBart
    @BeefaloBart 4 года назад +1

    I had a bad few days, but today seeing a new video from Trollskyy has helped raise my spirits. I always enjoy watching your videos.

  • @lewisworkshop
    @lewisworkshop 4 года назад +2

    Always happy to see your movies! Cheers from Seattle, USA

  • @buczo102
    @buczo102 4 года назад +3

    Dzięki za ten film! Mnóstwo wiedzy! Poprosimy o więcej! :)

  • @thomaschetney990
    @thomaschetney990 Год назад

    Thank You great work! I enjoy watching you making your knives

  • @christinenorriss9675
    @christinenorriss9675 3 года назад

    Greetings from Aotearoa, New Zealand, that was a great video, I am going to try and get some of those stones, they are great.My knifemaking journey only began two years ago (I am 72) my teacher said you learn to rush at it slowly! Its all good, only wish I'd started twenty years ago, I love your videos, some of my youtube favorites

  • @ssunfish
    @ssunfish 4 года назад

    Trollsky, words fail me how much it means to enjoy your work and admire your ability. You are a favorite RUclipsr and knifesmith!!! I hope great future and achievement for you and yours!!!

  • @Dezy.1
    @Dezy.1 4 года назад

    Dziękuję że pokazujesz nam swoją metodę.
    Greetings from Melbourne Australia

  • @neversleeps6833
    @neversleeps6833 4 года назад +23

    Kolejny filmik od trolla! like w ciemno, dzięki tobie, parę lat temu wkręciłem się w knifemaking, i niedawno zamówiłem pierwszą taśmówkę ^^

    • @Trollsky
      @Trollsky  4 года назад +5

      bardzo mi miło :)

    • @shogun6244
      @shogun6244 4 года назад +2

      Jaki model wybrałeś? Sam chciałbym kupić taką taśmówkę, ale nie wiem co wybrać haha

    • @neversleeps6833
      @neversleeps6833 4 года назад +3

      @@shogun6244 Na początku chciałem kupić dedrę, ale kierując się opiniami innych knifemakerów zdecydowałem się zamówić tzw "Mirkówkę", ze względu na większą moc i lepsze wykonanie, przy czym cena jest podobna. Ma być gotowa na sierpień, więc jeszcze nie wiem jak się sprawuje.

    • @advancedadvanced3814
      @advancedadvanced3814 4 года назад

      @@neversleeps6833 ogarnijcie sie ludzie!
      Knifemaking i dedra? Zainwestuj w coś normalnego.
      Mam tasmowke firmy goset, oprocz malego stolika to działa i ciągnie pasy 5cm x 2 metry
      Dedra czy inne gowno chinskie jeczy przy dociskaniu czegokolwiek, sciaga papier w jedna strone mimo regulacji itp.

    • @neversleeps6833
      @neversleeps6833 4 года назад

      @@advancedadvanced3814 Mam Mirkówkę i nie narzekam. Jeszcze nie udało mi się zaciąć, albo zwolnić taśmy. Myślę że na początek starczy :v

  • @jacekgorbacz440
    @jacekgorbacz440 4 года назад +1

    Pouczające, szkoda Trollu, że tak mało filmów wrzucasz ostatnio, mimo tego miło się ogląda...pozdrawiam!

  • @zw5509
    @zw5509 4 года назад +1

    Good to see a calmer you. Great video and tips.

  • @RedBeardOps
    @RedBeardOps 4 года назад +1

    This is excellent sir! Thank you very much for sharing this

  • @Loem28
    @Loem28 4 года назад +1

    It's always a good day when you release a new video. Thanks for the great content.

  • @flusterbaited_fishing
    @flusterbaited_fishing 3 года назад

    Awesome I love the results, control and fingers away from the cutting edge, thank you for the Video!

  • @laraatje123
    @laraatje123 2 года назад

    Using these stones was a revelation, thanks for sharing .

  • @jefffoggymountainworkshop5021
    @jefffoggymountainworkshop5021 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for explaining the sanding stones! Very helpful. Looking forward to your next video.

  • @xEnzo88x
    @xEnzo88x 4 года назад +1

    Cześć, jakiego papieru użyłeś po kamieniu 1200? / What sandpaper did you use after 1200 stone?

  • @dominicluck97
    @dominicluck97 4 года назад

    Michał oglądam dokładnie każdy odcinek,wrzucaj więcej w wolnym czasie,bardzo dużo można się nauczyć
    Pozdrawiam serdecznie!!

  • @1983oneeye
    @1983oneeye 4 года назад

    Just saying, you were a very instrumental reason i decided to start making knives. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and tips with people!

  • @ssunfish
    @ssunfish 4 года назад

    Great to watch and learn. I want to also do the stones for finishing the knife.its great to have example to follow. I enjoy also the time listening about your work. Very good RUclips channel! One of my favorite

  • @yetanotheaverageguy
    @yetanotheaverageguy 4 года назад

    Man, that looks a lot less frustrating. Thanks for sharing. Always good to see a new video from you.

  • @gregbrown3082
    @gregbrown3082 4 года назад +9

    This isn't just a knife tip. This is a manhood tip. Take something that is "pain in the ass," and make it something that is "calming for you." -Cheers!

    • @kucigal8993
      @kucigal8993 3 года назад +1

      ruclips.net/video/o5Eg_9CH7Wk/видео.html

  • @ronnewton606
    @ronnewton606 3 года назад

    thank you for this video, i have watched a number of yours. i have been aware that machinist , gunsmith, etc. use stores in their work and have wondered for some time about using them on blades. your is the only video that shows using stones. so i decided to try it, worked great. ended up buying an inexpensive set of ten different grits. its takes me less than 1/2 the tin and the finish is much better. also. my plunge line is better . thanks again...

  • @bctruck
    @bctruck 4 года назад

    Well, after watching your video, I went to amazon and bought some grinding sticks. I used them for the first time yesterday. The initial process of going from belt grinder to the first grit of hand sanding is usually what takes the longest. With the grinding stick, it took less than half the time and even less effort to sand out the grind lines. Thanks for sharing this great piece of wisdom!!!

  • @Exus1994
    @Exus1994 4 года назад +1

    Jeśli chcesz dorwać nadal Gessweiny i inne narzędzia do wykończenia powierzchni to dostępne są we firmie Sumaris, zaopatruje się tam wlasnie w kamienie Gesswein do pracy oraz drewniane przyrządy do docierania

    • @qwertyasdfghjkl9604
      @qwertyasdfghjkl9604 4 года назад +2

      Jeden minus: ceny nie są dla amatorów, hobbystów. To są towary dla przemysłu.

    • @Exus1994
      @Exus1994 4 года назад

      @@qwertyasdfghjkl9604 zgadzam się, lecz Trollsky ani amatorem ani hobbysta nie jest

  • @profesorEDC
    @profesorEDC 4 года назад +8

    Man I freaking love your blades. I stayed in Poland many years ago, Wroclaw, Krakow, Augustow. Gorgeous country and people. Had a polish girlfriend and ended up in Poland hahaha old story right. I'm from Mexico and will buy one of your Knives at some point.

  • @thinusdiedericks3240
    @thinusdiedericks3240 3 года назад

    Thank you for the tutorial. Very informative.

  • @scotmetcalf2745
    @scotmetcalf2745 4 года назад

    Fantastic work and to think I stumbled on to your channel and now I’m intrigued with your patience and master craftsmanship!!

  • @RookieLock
    @RookieLock 4 года назад +2

    I'm really glad I got some Gesswein stones.. They are great for the work I do.. Thanks for sharing your technique !

  • @darkwaker2.579
    @darkwaker2.579 4 года назад +2

    Thank you so much for this. I'm new to home knife making and this will help so very much. Thank you. Also love your stuff!

  • @wizardforge7734
    @wizardforge7734 Год назад

    Thank you for the tips! I’m using water stones from old stock. It’s also quite chip

  • @lokiii3507
    @lokiii3507 4 года назад +2

    I remember you seeing you at Atlanta knife show in 2018. Man, you have not changed a bit! Hope you get your Croatian sailing vacation this summer:)

  • @OldNew45
    @OldNew45 4 года назад +2

    Excellent! That is a really great idea. I'd like to see a video on how to build that neat vice you have there.

  • @piotrs.699
    @piotrs.699 2 года назад

    Wielkie dzięki za to że zdradziłeś nam tą tajemnicę zwłaszcza wyjście szlifu wywoływało u mnie niechęć do satynowania, świetny sposób z tymi kamieniami, już zamówiłem komplet :)

    • @Trollsky
      @Trollsky  2 года назад +1

      satynowanie dziele na 2 ery - z przed i po kamieniach :)

  • @ear1933
    @ear1933 4 года назад +1

    Always love your videos

  • @cuinoz3569
    @cuinoz3569 3 года назад

    Excellent video and thank you for sharing this.

  • @craft.767
    @craft.767 4 года назад +1

    Aż miło popatrzeć 💯Perfekcyjna robota 👍

  • @miaouew
    @miaouew Год назад

    I like using the stones that came with my dremel kit on metal sometimes it gives it a really cool effect

  • @moisescl1973
    @moisescl1973 2 месяца назад

    Hola,
    Me ha gustado mucho el video y la idea de esas piedras.
    La verdad es que me gusta mucho su trabajo.
    Donde puedo conseguir esas piedras?
    Muchas gracias yo un saludo

  • @greasydot
    @greasydot 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for sharing. Wonderful tips. Keep up the great a at work man. Beautiful knife.

  • @peterbechtel4668
    @peterbechtel4668 2 года назад

    Inspirational video my brother. What a good idea...

  • @edkovac8978
    @edkovac8978 4 года назад +1

    Your English is funny, but much better than my Polish :) very useful video, one can see that you know what you are talking about. I like your work. Keep it up!

  • @kamilowy1000
    @kamilowy1000 3 года назад

    Jesteś mistrzem Super robota !!!!!!👍

  • @famasmaster2000
    @famasmaster2000 4 года назад +1

    I love your videos my friend !! Nice cup of hot coffee and one of your videos and I'm the happiest man in Canada 👍🇨🇦

  • @SamB-ck5pc
    @SamB-ck5pc 4 года назад

    Thank you for showing us this technique, I wonder how many years I would have spent with sandpaper before thinking to try this!!!! THANKS!

    • @qwertyasdfghjkl9604
      @qwertyasdfghjkl9604 4 года назад

      OK, but stones will not replace the sandpapers completely.

  • @sgtrock68
    @sgtrock68 4 года назад +1

    Thats great. I never considered using stones instead of sand paper. I knew they existed, I've just never actually seen them used properly. I guess the question would be how long they last, and how refined does your surface need to be before you can start in with the stones. Well I'll find out because I'm definitely going to try going that way.Thanks for introducing me to them.

  • @futuresonex
    @futuresonex 4 года назад +1

    Cool! Awesome video, I'm going to have to try that!!!

  • @JF_Projects
    @JF_Projects 4 года назад +5

    Thank you for sharing, I recently started using the Gesswein stones and I'm very happy with the result and it saves a lot of sandpaper

    • @qwertyasdfghjkl9604
      @qwertyasdfghjkl9604 4 года назад +1

      BORIDE is another, moldmaking stones (and other abrasives) manufacturer. Check it out folks. Or KEMET abrasives.

  • @vincentmazza9221
    @vincentmazza9221 4 года назад +1

    Absolutely gorgeous work! I’m always so very impressed.

  • @bensthingsthoughts
    @bensthingsthoughts 4 года назад +2

    Your videos are truly amazing. I have been a long time subscriber ! And because of you I even attempted to make myself a knife wich turned out great, and very sharp... thanks a lot for the tips in the video

  • @jeffglover7854
    @jeffglover7854 4 года назад +1

    Thank you for the tutorial. 👍👍

  • @skeets6060
    @skeets6060 4 года назад +2

    It is good to see you back, I hope the custom knife work is going well. Stay safe

  • @JomViking
    @JomViking 11 месяцев назад

    Super metoda.... robienie satyny już nie jest takie irytujące. Na jaką gradację papieru przechodzisz kamieniu 1200?
    Dzięki za ten filmik i kanał!

  • @nateand3
    @nateand3 4 года назад +2

    Good video man. I'll be trying these stones and techniques for myself. Thank you

  • @wadejensen3301
    @wadejensen3301 4 года назад +1

    Thanks man.....you are a good man!

  • @jamesmahurin1963
    @jamesmahurin1963 4 года назад

    I really like your video and find them very helpful. Thank you.

  • @SlyDz420
    @SlyDz420 4 года назад +2

    Beautiful as always. You always make such great videos! I have heard that the "mud" actually helps speed up the process. It's like little pieces of sand like sand paper.

    • @qwertyasdfghjkl9604
      @qwertyasdfghjkl9604 4 года назад +1

      It's called a "slurry". Yes, it helps the process. Some stones cut properly only when you make some slurry (without it they scratch the surface, especially brand new stones). You should not clean it too often, keep the slurry fluid (add some liquid). But be careful not to "load"/glaze the stone.

  • @twojuiceman
    @twojuiceman 4 года назад +1

    Another great video.

  • @lancehead38
    @lancehead38 4 года назад +1

    Awesome tip for a newbie like me, thanks!

  • @ridhwaanjogiat1708
    @ridhwaanjogiat1708 4 года назад +1

    nice video,would love a video on free hand grinding

  • @MrBacardi151
    @MrBacardi151 4 года назад

    Hey always good to see your videos, always a lot of help and is greatly appreciated by many.

  • @budlloyd3127
    @budlloyd3127 4 года назад +1

    love your videos! great tutorial, I look forward to the next one!

  • @OUTDOORSSWEDEN
    @OUTDOORSSWEDEN 4 года назад

    Just beautiful finish!

  • @jayberwocky1
    @jayberwocky1 4 года назад +1

    Beautiful work, as always... I really love your channel and very much appreciate everything you share with us. I've learned a lot from you, thank you!

  • @ryc3rz
    @ryc3rz 4 года назад +2

    Czy jest powód dla którego nie dochodzisz na pasach do wyższych gradacji- np do 800 albo 2000? Później o wiele szybciej można by chyba zrobić pozioma satynę.

    • @ponuryzniwiarz1564
      @ponuryzniwiarz1564 4 года назад +1

      Przy wysokich gradacjach na szlifierce blank się szybko grzeje i można przypalić w chwilę.

  • @dominickmaone
    @dominickmaone 4 года назад +2

    Your English is great!! Thanks a lot for the video. Sanding is not the best part of knife making.

    • @ssunfish
      @ssunfish 4 года назад

      I disagree. It is a lot if hand work and concentration that adds to the knife. It's not the funnest part, but it is more of my effort being added!

  • @francescosaveriorusso3251
    @francescosaveriorusso3251 4 года назад

    Very fine and accurate work
    Congratulation

  • @PhoenixShihura
    @PhoenixShihura 2 года назад

    Dzięki, przyda się sprawdzenie tej metody. Ja do satynowania używam wiertarki stołowej, z padem pod papiery ścierne. I od 40-3500 w godzinę obie strony. Ale to dobre tylko do noży, które mają wyglądać jak szkło. A tak apropo gdzie szukać takich kamieni ? Pod jaką nazwą ?

  • @harryhaller21
    @harryhaller21 3 года назад

    hi trollsky ,thanks for sharing your experience and bravo for your great work, can i ask you where you buy them? greetings from france

  • @mawinsj
    @mawinsj Год назад

    Grest video! Do you have a good source for Bellstones in europe? And what grit sizes do you recommend as a starting set?

  • @alienlj
    @alienlj 4 года назад +1

    Thanx man. very interesting video.

  • @cornelmullerdebeer5152
    @cornelmullerdebeer5152 4 года назад

    Great work and good idea with the stones thank you my friend. Keep well.

  • @cycomikey78
    @cycomikey78 4 года назад

    Glad to see you again!

  • @zatankowanitv2089
    @zatankowanitv2089 4 года назад

    Sztos robota. Właśnie tak się dochodzi do perfekcji!

  • @peterchamberlain2922
    @peterchamberlain2922 4 года назад +1

    Great work , sharing you knowledge, te stones sound great. Could you please make a movie on the steel that you start with and how you work out if it is heat treatable and your beat treating methods, for example the small cleaver you made from a saw blade. What temp did you heat treat it at and what grade of steel was it. I want to repurpose old steel. How did they know the type and grade of steel used 100yrs ago for knife making, can you help me out please.

  • @joshrandal6982
    @joshrandal6982 4 года назад

    Excellent command of the English language. You seem to be a Brainiack. Dig your video the most.

  • @killerkane1957
    @killerkane1957 4 года назад +5

    Another question: the stones come with squared ends. Do you dress them to an angle or is this simply from use? Meaning you start a new stone square??

    • @qwertyasdfghjkl9604
      @qwertyasdfghjkl9604 4 года назад +1

      "It depends" what you are doing, what material (type/grade, hardness, geometry), what the goal is, what grade of stone and few other factors. Starting with fresh, brand new stone can cause problems like scratching the surface (very first strokes - so initial forming/dressing may help), then you must care not to clog/glaze the stone with improper lubrication.

    • @killerkane1957
      @killerkane1957 4 года назад

      Yes. I have now used stones on a skinning knife and a 22” blade. They did an excellent job. WD-40 as lubricant. The stones dressed themselves nicely. Very good outcome!

  • @NKG416
    @NKG416 4 года назад +1

    beautiful result, less waste too!

  • @KillerM1979
    @KillerM1979 4 года назад

    Amazing video Michael!! Very informative.

  • @skyhybrid
    @skyhybrid 4 года назад +2

    Really easy to follow along with your work, and nice to see your process :D

  • @marcinzawada8966
    @marcinzawada8966 4 года назад +1

    Ekstra sprawa, taki tutorial to ja rozumię.
    I ten śmiech w 9:10 😁

  • @demarsouthard3620
    @demarsouthard3620 3 года назад

    I went to the Gesswein site and found many types of stones. (general polishing, premium white, oil treated, white polishing, ultra soft...) Could you respond with which type of stone you recommend?

  • @RB-fn5om
    @RB-fn5om 2 года назад

    Hello, this is an awsome kind of knife surface treatment. Please can you tell me, where i can get these sandstones?
    All the best Ralf

  • @leventkaya6462
    @leventkaya6462 2 года назад

    I just ordered Bellstones because its price efficient in Turkey. How long did you spend to clean all both surface from 100 to 1200grit?

  • @biome8
    @biome8 4 года назад +2

    Trollsky, try sanding your bevels on the grinder to a higher grit with cork belts or trizacts.
    I start using these stones at 600 grit, no need for the rougher ones!

  • @ThomeTeque
    @ThomeTeque 4 года назад

    Ciekawy jestem jak wytrzymały byłby nóż z takiej sprężyny z urala, albo z pióra resorowego z jelcza lub stara np.?

  • @vizuvizu1306
    @vizuvizu1306 3 года назад

    czy te kamienie można też użyć do ostrzenia noża?;) pytanie od laika...

  • @28gaball
    @28gaball 4 года назад

    I will try for sure, is it OK for scandi grind?

  • @sudo_nym
    @sudo_nym 4 года назад +2

    Hi Michael,
    I've seen these stones be used before, and I'm curious if you still have to go at 45 degrees between each grade of grit?
    Appreciate you showing us this.

    • @Trollsky
      @Trollsky  4 года назад +5

      I am not changing the angle of stones, always from plungle line to the tip and back

    • @sudo_nym
      @sudo_nym 4 года назад

      Trollskyy Great job, Michael, many thanks 🙏!

  • @edgarderschmied4497
    @edgarderschmied4497 4 года назад +1

    Thanks, I'll have to try this!
    Cool video, like it.

  • @maciu60
    @maciu60 4 года назад

    witam świetna robota jestem Twoim fanem sam trochę się bawię z nożami mam pytanie gdzie mogę kupić pilnik do robienia nacięć nigdzie niemogę na niego trafić pozdrawiam Maciek T.

    • @maciu60
      @maciu60 4 года назад

      Co po Polsku nie odpisujesz ?