Thanks for watching and connecting here! I now have a Fast Ride Cymbal Course at Jazz Drum School: jazzdrumschool.com/course/ride-cymbal I teach 5 patterns I use in uptempo playing and dive deeper into my technique. I hope to see you over there too and keep swinging my friend 🤙
Fantastic! I’ve been studying with my drum professor for a while & I’m so glad I found your channel. I’m grateful for further exploration of these awesome nuances. thank you! 🤓
Thanks for the kind comment and for watching! I'm so glad the video is helpful. If you haven't already, you might also check out my online Jazz Drum School: jazzdrumschool.com/ Hours and hours of solid, practical and fun Jazz drum lessons I hope to see you over there too and keep swinging my friend 🤙
Thanks for commenting and watching here too! I have a Fast Ride Cymbal course now at Jazz Drum School where teach a variety of patterns I play at faster speeds: jazzdrumschool.com/course/ride-cymbal I hope to see you over there too. May The Force be with you and the Dawson book 🤙
Paul, I just saw that you enrolled in the Monthly Groove pass at Jazz Drum School. Welcome and thank you! Now you can check out that Fast Ride Cymbal course. Please feel free to contact me through the Jazz Drum School message system or email me directly vonbaron(at)jazzdrumschool.com anytime. I'm here to help. Please enjoy!
Jeff thanks so much for the kind words and for watching! I've also got a new fast ride cymbal mini course at Jazz Drum School that I know you'll enjoy: jazzdrumschool.com/course/ride-cymbal You'll be able to play 5 different ride cymbal pattern variations I use at all tempos and especially at faster speeds. Keep swinging my friend 🤙
Hey Von! I'm just taking a shade break from some yard work and fortunately here's another one of your fantastic lessons so that I'm always learning even when taking a break from yard work! Peace and Blessings Von!
I'm a drumming nube and can hear a difference in the overall sound between the 1-3 vs 2-4 accenting (starting around 6:40) but TBH, I can't actually hear accents on 1 and 3. I don't know if it's because the playing is too quick for me to detect them or the subtlety is lost due to audio compression (I suspect the latter). I guess I'm just trying to say an exaggerated example is always appreciated before something is demo'ed. And I do like the breaking-up-the-pattern section. It's huge. Keep up the great lessons, thanks!
Thanks very much for watching and for your detailed comment! I also appreciate your suggestion to do a slow version of my examples before I share a faster version. 👍 The long and short of it is, try to accent that 2 and 4 on the ride and the groove will open up and become effortless. I’m glad you found the video helpful and I’m glad you’re exploring the exciting world of Jazz drumming. Keep swinging!
It's absolutely my pleasure, thanks for the comment and for watching! I'm glad it was helpful. If you'd like to learn 6 fast right patterns I use and how to add in your snare drum and bass drum to comp at fast speeds, I hope you'll also check out my Fast Jazz Ride Cymbal Course: jazzdrumschool.com/course/ride-cymbal Keep swinging my friend!
Great video as usual. I have a problem staying relaxed doing the drop catch technique, when I try to play faster I stiffen up and the cymbal ride sounds choked. My teacher also pointed out that like you mentioned I seem to be accenting 1 and 3 and not 2 and 4! Thanks again for a great video and well explained.
Thanks Phillip for letting me know it helped! if you'd like to go deeper, you might also check out my Fast Ride Cymbal Course: jazzdrumschool.com/course/ride-cymbal Keep swinging my friend!
It's my pleasure! Thanks so much for watching and commenting. I've got hundreds of hours of top-notch Jazz drum lessons at Jazz Drum School: jazzdrumschool.com/ I hope to see you over there too! Keep swinging my friend 🤙
Thanks Joni! I'm really glad the video was helpful. If you're are looking to improve your Jazz drumming, you'll really love my online Jazz Drum School: jazzdrumschool.com/ I hope to see you over there too. Keep swinging my friend 🤙
I do a slight lateral move and pull three bounces. Very slight moeller on the down. I can survive going fast. Oh and around 210 or so it,s square. Not a spangalang or walk the dog. just light fast and moving forward feel. I live and play in Utsunomiya up in Tochigi. Not pro anymore ,, just for fun.
Russell thanks for sharing your expertise and for watching! It's great to connect with another gaijin drummer. If I'm ever your way or you're ever coming to Kansai, be sure to let me know. You an also email me at vonbaron(at)jazzdrumschool.com. Keep swinging my friend 🤙
Yeah tried to email you. Uhh,, Utsunomiya is known as a jazz town!!! Uhh Type in Studio K live stream and you can find many of the local active players. I played the New Years Eve stream. It was ok. It was a challenge in that I never played with bass player before. He active with a big band. Uhh the sax and Piano like a cool west coast flow so I was flowing and the bass player was driving so a little awkward but created some nice tension in the music!! It was fun,, show up , set list cursory touch on tunes mainly to plan endings and go!!
Hey that's great! Thanks for watching and for letting me know. I’m using a 20” Zildjian Kerope on the left and a 20” Zildjian K Constantinople Flat Ride on the right. I’m also using mixed 14” hi-hats, Top: K Constantinople, Bottom: K Custom Dry I hope to see you at Jazz Drum School too: jazzdrumschool.com/ Keep swinging my friend!
How would the triplets be notated? I hear a small gap between the third strike and the next on the beat so eighth note triplets doesn’t seem quite right, but sixteenth triplets followed by an eighth rest seems off the mark, too. The gap isn’t that big.
Thanks for watching and for your comment! The triplets are notated the same as a standard Jazz ride pattern. It’s just a change in how the notes are interpreted. The faster you go, the straighter the notes become. Hope that helps!
Do you ever play by intuition or feel? When I started learning Spanish, I simply tried to say things that sounded Spanish, in all honesty. Your question is relevant, but just feel the groove.
i've only just started learning jazz drums and i noticed that a lot of people including you sometimes switch to the crash with the ride pattern. that's something i never thought of doing, could you give a really short insight on that?
Great question my friend! In Jazz we double the use of ride cymbals as crash cymbals too. I'm actually playing all ride cymbals. The reason we use ride cymbals more than crash cymbals is because Jazz drumming is top down. This means the groove comes from the ride cymbal and hi-hat instead of from the bass drum and snare drum (bottom up). Having more than one sound (color) source is optimal for making our grooves blend sonically with the music. I hope this helps and keep swinging my friend 🤙
Thanks so much for watching and for the question! It’s a 20” Zildjian Kerope on the left and a 20” Zildjian K Constantinople Flat Ride on the ride. I’m also using mixed 14” hi-hats, Top: K Constantinople, Bottom: K Custom Dry. Hope that helps! Keeps swinging my friend 🤙
Yes, the faster you go, the more syncopated things seem to be but they're still on 2 and 4 which are really the upbeats of counts 1 and 3 in quarter notes. It becomes more of a mental challenge the faster things go. Keep working at the speed and it will all start to feel more natural.
Thanks for watching and connecting here! I now have a Fast Ride Cymbal Course at Jazz Drum School: jazzdrumschool.com/course/ride-cymbal I teach 5 patterns I use in uptempo playing and dive deeper into my technique. I hope to see you over there too and keep swinging my friend 🤙
Fantastic! I’ve been studying with my drum professor for a while & I’m so glad I found your channel. I’m grateful for further exploration of these awesome nuances. thank you! 🤓
Thanks for the kind comment and for watching! I'm so glad the video is helpful. If you haven't already, you might also check out my online Jazz Drum School: jazzdrumschool.com/ Hours and hours of solid, practical and fun Jazz drum lessons I hope to see you over there too and keep swinging my friend 🤙
I never considered a straight 3! Thanks for your videos. I am currently going, trying to go through, Alan Dawson’s book. Very challenging.
Thanks for commenting and watching here too! I have a Fast Ride Cymbal course now at Jazz Drum School where teach a variety of patterns I play at faster speeds: jazzdrumschool.com/course/ride-cymbal I hope to see you over there too. May The Force be with you and the Dawson book 🤙
Paul, I just saw that you enrolled in the Monthly Groove pass at Jazz Drum School. Welcome and thank you! Now you can check out that Fast Ride Cymbal course. Please feel free to contact me through the Jazz Drum School message system or email me directly vonbaron(at)jazzdrumschool.com anytime. I'm here to help. Please enjoy!
This is a wonderful technique. Been working on it nonstop the last couple days. Thanks much for your post!
Jeff thanks so much for the kind words and for watching! I've also got a new fast ride cymbal mini course at Jazz Drum School that I know you'll enjoy: jazzdrumschool.com/course/ride-cymbal You'll be able to play 5 different ride cymbal pattern variations I use at all tempos and especially at faster speeds. Keep swinging my friend 🤙
Hey Von! I'm just taking a shade break from some yard work and fortunately here's another one of your fantastic lessons so that I'm always learning even when taking a break from yard work! Peace and Blessings Von!
Ahh what an honor to be part of your break time! It's always great to hear from you. Hope you get some swinging in too 🤙
@@jazzdrumschool I’m usually drumming in my head when not on the kit. Blessings Von!
I'm a drumming nube and can hear a difference in the overall sound between the 1-3 vs 2-4 accenting (starting around 6:40) but TBH, I can't actually hear accents on 1 and 3. I don't know if it's because the playing is too quick for me to detect them or the subtlety is lost due to audio compression (I suspect the latter). I guess I'm just trying to say an exaggerated example is always appreciated before something is demo'ed. And I do like the breaking-up-the-pattern section. It's huge. Keep up the great lessons, thanks!
Thanks very much for watching and for your detailed comment! I also appreciate your suggestion to do a slow version of my examples before I share a faster version. 👍
The long and short of it is, try to accent that 2 and 4 on the ride and the groove will open up and become effortless.
I’m glad you found the video helpful and I’m glad you’re exploring the exciting world of Jazz drumming. Keep swinging!
Thanks for sharing your secrets!
It's absolutely my pleasure, thanks for the comment and for watching! I'm glad it was helpful. If you'd like to learn 6 fast right patterns I use and how to add in your snare drum and bass drum to comp at fast speeds, I hope you'll also check out my Fast Jazz Ride Cymbal Course: jazzdrumschool.com/course/ride-cymbal Keep swinging my friend!
Great video as usual. I have a problem staying relaxed doing the drop catch technique, when I try to play faster I stiffen up and the cymbal ride sounds choked. My teacher also pointed out that like you mentioned I seem to be accenting 1 and 3 and not 2 and 4! Thanks again for a great video and well explained.
Thanks Phillip for letting me know it helped! if you'd like to go deeper, you might also check out my Fast Ride Cymbal Course: jazzdrumschool.com/course/ride-cymbal Keep swinging my friend!
Love this video, thank you for making it and sharing your technique. 🙌
It's my pleasure! Thanks so much for watching and commenting. I've got hundreds of hours of top-notch Jazz drum lessons at Jazz Drum School: jazzdrumschool.com/ I hope to see you over there too! Keep swinging my friend 🤙
thanks! This information is very valuable
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Thanks Joni! I'm really glad the video was helpful. If you're are looking to improve your Jazz drumming, you'll really love my online Jazz Drum School: jazzdrumschool.com/ I hope to see you over there too. Keep swinging my friend 🤙
I do a slight lateral move and pull three bounces. Very slight moeller on the down. I can survive going fast. Oh and around 210 or so it,s square. Not a spangalang or walk the dog. just light fast and moving forward feel. I live and play in Utsunomiya up in Tochigi. Not pro anymore ,, just for fun.
Russell thanks for sharing your expertise and for watching! It's great to connect with another gaijin drummer. If I'm ever your way or you're ever coming to Kansai, be sure to let me know. You an also email me at vonbaron(at)jazzdrumschool.com. Keep swinging my friend 🤙
Yeah tried to email you. Uhh,, Utsunomiya is known as a jazz town!!! Uhh Type in Studio K live stream and you can find many of the local active players. I played the New Years Eve stream. It was ok. It was a challenge in that I never played with bass player before. He active with a big band. Uhh the sax and Piano like a cool west coast flow so I was flowing and the bass player was driving so a little awkward but created some nice tension in the music!! It was fun,, show up , set list cursory touch on tunes mainly to plan endings and go!!
Sorry man! Did I miss your email? I don't remember getting anything. Well, at least we are connected here. Glad you are gigging brother🤙
Thanks this really helped me! What cymbals are you using here ??
Hey that's great! Thanks for watching and for letting me know. I’m using a 20” Zildjian Kerope on the left and a 20” Zildjian K Constantinople Flat Ride on the right. I’m also using mixed 14” hi-hats, Top: K Constantinople, Bottom: K Custom Dry I hope to see you at Jazz Drum School too: jazzdrumschool.com/ Keep swinging my friend!
And now with the left hand
LOL! Yes, I am working on that too! Keep swinging 🤙
Juist ☝🏻
How would the triplets be notated? I hear a small gap between the third strike and the next on the beat so eighth note triplets doesn’t seem quite right, but sixteenth triplets followed by an eighth rest seems off the mark, too. The gap isn’t that big.
Thanks for watching and for your comment! The triplets are notated the same as a standard Jazz ride pattern. It’s just a change in how the notes are interpreted. The faster you go, the straighter the notes become. Hope that helps!
Do you ever play by intuition or feel? When I started learning Spanish, I simply tried to say things that sounded Spanish, in all honesty.
Your question is relevant, but just feel the groove.
i've only just started learning jazz drums and i noticed that a lot of people including you sometimes switch to the crash with the ride pattern. that's something i never thought of doing, could you give a really short insight on that?
Great question my friend! In Jazz we double the use of ride cymbals as crash cymbals too. I'm actually playing all ride cymbals. The reason we use ride cymbals more than crash cymbals is because Jazz drumming is top down.
This means the groove comes from the ride cymbal and hi-hat instead of from the bass drum and snare drum (bottom up). Having more than one sound (color) source is optimal for making our grooves blend sonically with the music.
I hope this helps and keep swinging my friend 🤙
What ride cymbal are you using?
Thanks so much for watching and for the question! It’s a 20” Zildjian Kerope on the left and a 20” Zildjian K Constantinople Flat Ride on the ride. I’m also using mixed 14” hi-hats, Top: K Constantinople, Bottom: K Custom Dry. Hope that helps! Keeps swinging my friend 🤙
Sounds like 2 and 4 are on the upbeats
Yes, the faster you go, the more syncopated things seem to be but they're still on 2 and 4 which are really the upbeats of counts 1 and 3 in quarter notes. It becomes more of a mental challenge the faster things go. Keep working at the speed and it will all start to feel more natural.