the moment where you demonstrate the ghost notes is the moment the lightbulb turned on for me - a similar lesson is what got me into drums in the first place - magic!
Technically, you could use the 6 stroke roll, which is exactly the same thing. Especially, with the left hand lead. At least the way I play it. Also, I've always struggle with the jazz ride pattern , and I've been playing for years. It won't happen overnight, but this lesson is like magic cause, after all these years, I finally understand how to correct you go at this..
SC actually explains how the paradiddle practice rhythm applies to stick control and musicality. No body else explains the purpose of this technique clearly. They just do it. New subscriber.
Cool I use this rudiment all the time..I mix it up between the toms too. Try substituting bass drum notes last two notes: RLRRFF or LRLLFF. Hand strokes can be made on toms as well as snare..makes for a cool fill.
Excellent video! As a "Rudimental drummer" , with drum and bugle corps, My old friend, the paradiddle diddle comes to play in the jazz world! Easy to make variations, utilizing accents, even on the diddle portion. Such an "instinctive" rudiment as well. Great lesson! I find myself pulling out a set of sticks to follow along.
I love rudimental and marching drumming. I've been working on it for a couple of months now. I'm more of a blues/ funk drummer, but I think stuff like Mister Rudiments and the Breakfast Call are really cool to learn, so that they can become noodles for warming up. I really love drum corps and the exaggerated movement which I like to imitate when noodling. It just makes the actual thing you want to play so much more relaxed and easier to an extent.
No. Forget sticking patterns. You need to play steady quarter notes on the ride. Then you need to add the skip notes to the steady quarter notes on the ride. That's the basis. No sticking patterns. Check out John Riley's Art Of Bop Drumming. That's the bible for jazz drumming and there isn't a single sticking pattern in it.
I watched this video a week after I started and this rudiment helped me so much to explore the drums and have been able to create my own solos (not good ones) but it's been really fun, thank you!
Thankyou Stephen. I have been sitting at my drumset following you. I have a drumpad on each drum, and have also been working on doubles with my drum teacher. I love your lessons. Clear, understandable and v encouraging. Thankyou. Rosemary 🥁
Great video, thank you. Something I'd recommend emphasizing too is that what you're describing as "Left Hand Lead Variation 2" is also a six stroke roll (RLLRRL) played with triplet feel (for jazz swing).
This is a great lesson that I found by accident. I've been playing a year and getting to the point the dynamic independence is starting to come to me so this is timely.
I for one do not subscribe to the beginner to intermediate to advanced musician concept as I feel it is like the belt tear system in martial arts, an arbitrary standardisation of capability measurements that are more in service of creating tutorship jobs in an otherwise free and expressive exploratory personal journey of passion and expression. That said, this drummer and his video is valuable beyond any of my previous rhetoric as he amply demonstrates , explains and encourages his viewers to incorporate jazz style, rhythm and musical principals in their playing. Whether new at the drums or a drummer with experience, this lesson is informative! I have long known and practiced the rudiment shown here but for me it is his explanation and teaching of his lesson that educates me. Educates me in how I can better explain this to my own, few though, students. Great upload, valuable to even the self considered advanced drummer, me haha! Seriously though, thanks. The lesson for me in this is how to better teach the concept in question, impressive lesson
Im a guitar player but i been banging drums for ever just for fun my whole life and i suck. Now i joined my friends band as a drummer and im terribly bad but since its a beer drinking once a week jam thing nobody cares how bad i am but today i discovered i can't shuffle to save my life and i think this should have been the first thing i should have practiced and most of the problems could have been addressed long ago
The sticking pattern and hat steady are the things I'm working on. Also the Bonham triplets, a thing I've always had in my head from encountering Led Zeppelin in my bass playing youth but haven't gotten very solid. The whole keep it slow thing is the key. In my case getting the accents under control is the challenge, which will be easier after just practicing the sticking pattern to get the alternating singles and doubles better honed. I've played drums on the side, never in a band but for a few times in over 30 years in music, but now I'm in a reforming band where we're all tuning up new skills together so I did a search for beginning drum lessons and you are one of the first channels I found, and now I'm focused on your channel due to your dedication to taking every subject down to fundamental simplicity. My experience in Western Magick, Astrology, and Numerology jive with the idea of working on singles...even just basic math where all integers are collections of 1. If the One isn't solid none of the other numbers will be good as they are constructed from the integrity, or lack thereof of the One. I've already eliminated my 'weak' hand where my left is cracking like a whip and my right is falling behind from having more tension from growing up mostly right handed. They call this woodshedding in some circles and yes, this kind of thing is much like whittling a wood sculpture from a great log with a pocket knife.
That was brilliant! Pure gold. Although a beginner, I've always wanted to step into the jazz realm - always intimidated by it! I'm gonna give it a try for sure! Thanks man!
puh….this 5:53 was a complicated way to explain what it means to play a 6-stroke-roll 😅 … but i totally agree: absolutely necessary for any kind of jazz-based drumming 👍
Lol. This is amazing. I learn paradidles for a some time and I didn't think at all about moving my time mind machine few steps forward to start playing at different point to create something completely new. This is awesome movie! Thank you so much!
Stephen, hope you check your comments. I signed up for your courses, but the website it down. It's been down at least from yesterday. I sent you an email and it got kicked back. I want to continue Song University, but cannot. I've tried to find a number or some way to contact you via social media, but have only been able to use this comment option. I do hope you check them. Thanks
Hi Stephen: I love this lesson because I'm learning (in my basement) to play jazz. I think I need better cymbals than the Sabian AAX set that came with my used rock kit. Can you recommend a descent intermediate brand and ride size? I looked up your K Custom Dark set and they're probably professional cymbals - at least that's what the price suggests. Any recommendation would be appreciated. And thanks again for a great lesson. You are excellent at explaining things.
Around the four minute mark you start talking about and playing var. 2 when you had var. 1 posted below. Made it a little confusing to follow the sticking pattern when you were playing. However, the brackets thereafter you placed over the sticking patterns really helped. Maybe just an editing error there. Anyway, super cool breakdown and use of the pdd as I’ve always wondered how the jazz guys move around the kit while maintaining those ghost notes, thus connecting it all. Thx a bunch!🎉
Ok I realized how to do it, after years of not succeeding: work on the left hand separately first. right hand is in brackets: 4 (1) 2 3 (4 5). play only 4 (1) 2 3 first. then add the (4 5) double of the right hand. you only really play the rimshot of the 4 and 1. the rest is you lifting your hands to "prepare" for those rimshots, and you sort of get doubles "for free". playing those "in between" doubles cleanly is the the harder part, but not that much harder.
This was such a great lesson!!! My drum teacher can play any genre of music but he specializes in jazz. I’ve been trying to learn more jazz techniques (I’m so intimidated by jazz!) and this lesson really helps. I’m such a beginner and I love your lessons. I didn’t watch your lesson while I was on the kit but I’m planning to and to play along.
Main thing I picked up from this video is be good at doubles. I'm terrible at doubles because I put way to much force in my hit that it often doesn't keep bouncing.
This is what I’ve been looking for. I’m training my left hand to do smooth doubles and at the same time moving around the kit with these rudiments I will admit that my left fingers and wrist are sore. All of a sudden my playing has started to evolve! My wife came home and into the practice room to see who was playing! Awesome job Stephen, thanks.
There used 2B this Zappa album... what was it called? Does anybody remember? “Shut up ‘n’ play your drums!” Exactly… Oh no, wait - it’s GUITAR, not Drums! Guitar of course... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣✌🏻🥳
Stephen, I enjoy your videos, but admit to being distracted with your continued looking at your computer to your left. Have you thought of a screen of boards in front of you?
Without confusing people, I have found it is easier to use a six stroke roll changing the accents and sticking to first note accent single sticking to double stroke with 3rd note accent. Easier to keep track of and is a triplet feel pattern to begin with
Everybody's working for the weak hand.
Fahhkin mint.😁
🤣
Brilliant! Love that. We cover that song so I'm going to get the singer to sing your lyrics. Ta.
If only they were. We wouldn’t have so much shit music.
Love it
I must admit that this is the best lesson/video of yours so far, Stephen. Thank you!
the moment where you demonstrate the ghost notes is the moment the lightbulb turned on for me - a similar lesson is what got me into drums in the first place - magic!
Technically, you could use the 6 stroke roll, which is exactly the same thing. Especially, with the left hand lead. At least the way I play it. Also, I've always struggle with the jazz ride pattern , and I've been playing for years. It won't happen overnight, but this lesson is like magic cause, after all these years, I finally understand how to correct you go at this..
SC actually explains how the paradiddle practice rhythm applies to stick control and musicality. No body else explains the purpose of this technique clearly. They just do it. New subscriber.
Cool I use this rudiment all the time..I mix it up between the toms too. Try substituting bass drum notes last two notes: RLRRFF or LRLLFF. Hand strokes can be made on toms as well as snare..makes for a cool fill.
Excellent video!
As a "Rudimental drummer" , with drum and bugle corps, My old friend, the paradiddle diddle comes to play in the jazz world!
Easy to make variations, utilizing accents, even on the diddle portion. Such an "instinctive" rudiment as well.
Great lesson! I find myself pulling out a set of sticks to follow along.
I love rudimental and marching drumming. I've been working on it for a couple of months now. I'm more of a blues/ funk drummer, but I think stuff like Mister Rudiments and the Breakfast Call are really cool to learn, so that they can become noodles for warming up. I really love drum corps and the exaggerated movement which I like to imitate when noodling. It just makes the actual thing you want to play so much more relaxed and easier to an extent.
No. Forget sticking patterns. You need to play steady quarter notes on the ride. Then you need to add the skip notes to the steady quarter notes on the ride. That's the basis. No sticking patterns. Check out John Riley's Art Of Bop Drumming. That's the bible for jazz drumming and there isn't a single sticking pattern in it.
Can I still watch this lesson anyway?
I never believed in forgetting what I learned. I add to my style, instead of subtracting from it.
I watched this video a week after I started and this rudiment helped me so much to explore the drums and have been able to create my own solos (not good ones) but it's been really fun, thank you!
Unbelievably valuable content, thank you for that. That’s enough stuff to play around with for years.
Excellent explanation; thanks!
That little demo at the end sounded like Gene Krupa! Nice playing man! Love this lesson....
Indeed a lovely way of showing how simple it is - after you put in the amount of precise practice. Thank you Stephen, big time!
Thankyou Stephen. I have been sitting at my drumset following you. I have a drumpad on each drum, and have also been working on doubles with my drum teacher. I love your lessons. Clear, understandable and v encouraging. Thankyou. Rosemary 🥁
Great video, thank you. Something I'd recommend emphasizing too is that what you're describing as "Left Hand Lead Variation 2" is also a six stroke roll (RLLRRL) played with triplet feel (for jazz swing).
I have been playing drums for 60 years. I am no great drummer, but I can hold my own. This lesson is one of the best lessons I have ever had on drums.
Can I ask, why do you say that?
I’m 63 and just started playing again after 40 years an only played in a garage band but didn’t take it serious,now it’s starting to be fun😊
@michaelkonopka9607 beautiful stuff. That's a long break for any skill.
This is a great lesson that I found by accident. I've been playing a year and getting to the point the dynamic independence is starting to come to me so this is timely.
Great lesson Stephen. I love the six stroke roll in all of its forms as taught here. Keep up the great work. Bill.
Huge Return on Investment for Paradiddle-diddles, IMO. Going from Pad to Fills to Groove, that sticking is a good one!
The inverted version of the left hand version of this RLLRRL is also super helpful.
Best ever drum rudimental lesson....thanx 🙏
I for one do not subscribe to the beginner to intermediate to advanced musician concept as I feel it is like the belt tear system in martial arts, an arbitrary standardisation of capability measurements that are more in service of creating tutorship jobs in an otherwise free and expressive exploratory personal journey of passion and expression. That said, this drummer and his video is valuable beyond any of my previous rhetoric as he amply demonstrates , explains and encourages his viewers to incorporate jazz style, rhythm and musical principals in their playing. Whether new at the drums or a drummer with experience, this lesson is informative! I have long known and practiced the rudiment shown here but for me it is his explanation and teaching of his lesson that educates me. Educates me in how I can better explain this to my own, few though, students. Great upload, valuable to even the self considered advanced drummer, me haha! Seriously though, thanks. The lesson for me in this is how to better teach the concept in question, impressive lesson
Im a guitar player but i been banging drums for ever just for fun my whole life and i suck. Now i joined my friends band as a drummer and im terribly bad but since its a beer drinking once a week jam thing nobody cares how bad i am but today i discovered i can't shuffle to save my life and i think this should have been the first thing i should have practiced and most of the problems could have been addressed long ago
The sticking pattern and hat steady are the things I'm working on. Also the Bonham triplets, a thing I've always had in my head from encountering Led Zeppelin in my bass playing youth but haven't gotten very solid. The whole keep it slow thing is the key. In my case getting the accents under control is the challenge, which will be easier after just practicing the sticking pattern to get the alternating singles and doubles better honed. I've played drums on the side, never in a band but for a few times in over 30 years in music, but now I'm in a reforming band where we're all tuning up new skills together so I did a search for beginning drum lessons and you are one of the first channels I found, and now I'm focused on your channel due to your dedication to taking every subject down to fundamental simplicity.
My experience in Western Magick, Astrology, and Numerology jive with the idea of working on singles...even just basic math where all integers are collections of 1. If the One isn't solid none of the other numbers will be good as they are constructed from the integrity, or lack thereof of the One. I've already eliminated my 'weak' hand where my left is cracking like a whip and my right is falling behind from having more tension from growing up mostly right handed. They call this woodshedding in some circles and yes, this kind of thing is much like whittling a wood sculpture from a great log with a pocket knife.
Thanks Stephen a great lesson - I’m just starting to migrate from rock to jazz, so perfect timing for me.
That was brilliant! Pure gold. Although a beginner, I've always wanted to step into the jazz realm - always intimidated by it! I'm gonna give it a try for sure! Thanks man!
puh….this 5:53 was a complicated way to explain what it means to play a 6-stroke-roll 😅 …
but i totally agree: absolutely necessary for any kind of jazz-based drumming 👍
Lol. This is amazing. I learn paradidles for a some time and I didn't think at all about moving my time mind machine few steps forward to start playing at different point to create something completely new. This is awesome movie! Thank you so much!
I love this chop - great for fills, grooves and overall tastiness!
Right on time Stephen thank you I've been trying to get into more jazz playing. I really like your lessons you have such relaxed approach.
Awesome! Been playing drums for years! Took the lessons learned my rudiments! But I wish you would have been my teacher!!! I just learned stuff now👍🏻
thank you Stephen!
I like the lessons that you teach but I use the traditional grip. Could you show these lessons using traditional grip.
Awesome lesson! Thanks for posting.
Thank you Steven your lessons are always very helpful. I plan to start supporting you on patreon. Keep up the great work
Brilliant lesson! Subbed!!!!
That first variation is a great way to lead into learning inverted roles
Grt lesson!
Deal Stephen, you are a Great Drummer. You analyse and explain it all Perfect. Only, you Need too much Words. But thanks for all.
Well done😊
Absolutely great lesson and best drum channel ever !
Great lesson! One of your best.
Many thanks.
Very cool concept
Thanks a lot!
Video starts 2:32
The only drum channel I watch now💯🔥🔥🔥🙏
what’s the subdivision of the rudiment? 8th note and two 16th; two 16th note and 8th; 8th triplet; 16th sextuplet?
7:43 where the variations are at
Stephen, hope you check your comments. I signed up for your courses, but the website it down. It's been down at least from yesterday. I sent you an email and it got kicked back. I want to continue Song University, but cannot. I've tried to find a number or some way to contact you via social media, but have only been able to use this comment option. I do hope you check them. Thanks
16:00 it is a six stroke roll? (The variation)
Whaaaat that blew my mind
Isn't this the six-stroke roll for jazz?
On the 6 stroke it's the fulcrum (the first joint of index finger and thumb) working and relaxing. Not the rebound
Hi Stephen: I love this lesson because I'm learning (in my basement) to play jazz. I think I need better cymbals than the Sabian AAX set that came with my used rock kit. Can you recommend a descent intermediate brand and ride size? I looked up your K Custom Dark set and they're probably professional cymbals - at least that's what the price suggests. Any recommendation would be appreciated. And thanks again for a great lesson. You are excellent at explaining things.
I tried to go to the "weak hand" course and your site is down as of 11:30 EST
6am est still down excited to get started on it 😁
what pad are you using on your snare?
Around the four minute mark you start talking about and playing var. 2 when you had var. 1 posted below. Made it a little confusing to follow the sticking pattern when you were playing.
However, the brackets thereafter you placed over the sticking patterns really helped. Maybe just an editing error there.
Anyway, super cool breakdown and use of the pdd as I’ve always wondered how the jazz guys move around the kit while maintaining those ghost notes, thus connecting it all.
Thx a bunch!🎉
Stephen is your website still working?
Ok I realized how to do it, after years of not succeeding:
work on the left hand separately first. right hand is in brackets: 4 (1) 2 3 (4 5). play only 4 (1) 2 3 first. then add the (4 5) double of the right hand.
you only really play the rimshot of the 4 and 1. the rest is you lifting your hands to "prepare" for those rimshots, and you sort of get doubles "for free". playing those "in between" doubles cleanly is the the harder part, but not that much harder.
This was such a great lesson!!! My drum teacher can play any genre of music but he specializes in jazz. I’ve been trying to learn more jazz techniques (I’m so intimidated by jazz!) and this lesson really helps. I’m such a beginner and I love your lessons. I didn’t watch your lesson while I was on the kit but I’m planning to and to play along.
Variation #2 is also called the 6-stroke roll! Great lesson Stephen!!!
I was going to say the same thing!
hey man your website is down
well, should i then play it mostly as triplets or sixtuplets? both!
Hello Stephen
Your website seems to be out of ordre. Impossible to Connect and access total hand freedom i purchased. What is the solution ? Thanks
Excellent ❤
Main thing I picked up from this video is be good at doubles. I'm terrible at doubles because I put way to much force in my hit that it often doesn't keep bouncing.
This is what I’ve been looking for. I’m training my left hand to do smooth doubles and at the same time moving around the kit with these rudiments
I will admit that my left fingers and wrist are sore.
All of a sudden my playing has started to evolve! My wife came home and into the practice room to see who was playing!
Awesome job Stephen, thanks.
Weak hand link isn't working. Please fix.
At 180 bpm ish, are the doubles dirty, if so what is the trick to keeping the singles in the right tempo?
You think by yourself: ‘I know R L RR LL and can play that really fast and loud…’
Stephen : yes cool but not inside out…
There used 2B this Zappa album... what was it called? Does anybody remember?
“Shut up ‘n’ play your drums!” Exactly…
Oh no, wait - it’s GUITAR, not Drums! Guitar of course...
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣✌🏻🥳
Whats with the volume?
Unable to open the link???
Same here
And here
At the end of the day, it is the rudiment 6 stroke roll and its variations
yep
mommy daddy mommy daddy ..when you get it its so cool and dont be afraid of success!!
Hey Stephen! did you know that your NGD Community and email are not working?
You teach doubles just like I do! I thought I made that teaching technique up!
2:35 of smth before the info...
You made me buy drum sticks and start learning this.
Bro! I can't log in to your website from my google account: help!!! RnMT
Noice tutorial
Joe Morello!
Is blablabla a drum rudiment ?
Rude much?
I can suggest a couple others as well...lol
lol..i paused and came back hope you dont mind!!
LRRLLR--isn't another word for that 6 stroke roll?
It's only me or anyone else has problems to get into the non glamorous drummer website?
The second rudiment is actually the six stroke roll
Stephen, I enjoy your videos, but admit to being distracted with your continued looking at your computer to your left. Have you thought of a screen of boards in front of you?
More playing… less chatting 🤙🏻
Without confusing people, I have found it is easier to use a six stroke roll changing the accents and sticking to first note accent single sticking to double stroke with 3rd note accent. Easier to keep track of and is a triplet feel pattern to begin with
I'm so confused😂
gets to be a "take five" feel
This isn't a bad lesson, but what you play just doesn't feel like jazz or swing.
The first rudiment is your ears.
27mn 😔
Love the content but good lord the ads are worse and worse ever month
Flounder: I paid a nominal fee to join the community and I see No Ads. Best money I’ve ever spent!
In my case right is the weak hand and left is the pathetic hand.
aren’t jazz drummers supposed to play traditional grip not match grip? asking for a friend
Jazz? Thats the passenger, iggy pop.....
“The one rudiment you need”
Uses one rudiment to actually just teach a bunch
Ikr? Snuck it all in on us😂