I always wondered what ate the past path that the langoliers created while they eat the current past...the langolangoliers if you will. Later I realised it was just "turtles all the way down" in another way. Nice use of "jejune", well finangled.
Ah yes, the Langolurtles. My friend Patrick was wondering if the Langoliers poop out the past when they’re done eating and now I’m spiraling down the pooping langolangoliers rabbit hole 😵💫
@@agreatundertaking I have yet to read the story, but I heard that they were described as just appearing like living organisms to the people in the story because the human mind could more easily handle living things chewing the landscape than whatever else they were. Is this true? Well, if it is, then they were nothing like living organisms at all, so there shouldn't be any bodily waste products, I presume. Maybe they were more like localized black holes? Consuming the still-frame past and turning it into HawKING radiation? Maybe feeding the time-crack with their radiation, which caused it to shine in those impossibly beautiful patterns and colors? Mere speculations on my part based on what I heard about the story. I have to check it out eventually, I really would love to find out how the langoliers were described by the novel in the end. Until then I just have those crazy ideas about them.
When I saw the mini-series many, many years ago, it went right over my head. I recently got a copy of Four Past Midnight and can read it with much greater insight than I had back then. I was too young and naive I guess.
I completely understand. I definitely enjoyed most media with a surface level understanding for most of my life. It’s fun to revisit books and movies with a greater desire and ability to read between the lines though!
"Hi, I'm Geoff your Pilot, on tonight's flight I will not be wearing the standard Pilot's Cap and have swapped it for this Chauffeur's Cap.......... or is it the cap of a Hearse Driver MUAHAHAHAHA!!! 💀
Hi Mr Doyle. Haven’t read this one in years! I recall really enjoying it but never quite took away the insights you mention. Thanks! I do remember really enjoying the mini series as well. Solid cast as I recall. Take care.
Hi Paul! It had been a while since I had read it as well, and I enjoyed the re-read a great deal. Honestly, it was King’s forwards and remarks that got me looking at the story from a different angle. Just knowing where he was in his mind while writing allowed for a different perspective on it. As for the miniseries, it is mostly very good! Thanks again, Paul. I hope you’re having a good week.
I struggled in early readings, but somewhere around the third time, it clicked and I suddenly found this story brilliant. Perhaps, in my youth, I just wasn't ready to tackle the concepts it brings.
Hey H! I can see why maybe the story didn’t hit the same way back in the day. Once I read King’s musings on time and had that context, that really drove it home for me.
I’ve got the script for the miniseries video finished, and I think you’ll be astounded by just how little screen time the langoliers actually have. It was just SO terribly bad it is most, if not all, that people remember from the series lol
@@agreatundertaking Sometimes I "" WISH "" that some of the GOOD Movies with BAD Special Effects/Graphics would go back and Fix/Update JUST the Effects. 😀
Just found your channel and love the discussion on The Langoliers (which I recently re-read). I would LOVE to see you delve into Duma Key, my personal King favorite!
Many of SK's stories are infused into various moments in my past. I read this one after my 'finding King' phase, and during my comfortable 'settling in' phase. Though it contains many SK tropes (the crazy guy who's almost comically crazy, the psychic little girl), I always loved this story. What I took from it was the concept of 'time' itself as a living thing. Something we could hardly understand but was alive nevertheless. The longer they stay in that frozen moment, the air growing stale, the fuel losing it's usefulness, was the experience of time dying and the inevitable cycle of it's death, the Langoliers coming to devour it. Looking forward to the Sun Dog, 'pop Merrill' was always one of my favorite characters, "is what I mean to say".
I really like that interpretation! That’s the first time I’ve heard that perspective, time as a living thing, and it rings true! I really like that. I hope you’ll consider making your own vid exploring that subject and interpretation man!
Thanks for this undertaking ... It really was an interesting read, and, unfortunately, I dont have much more to say about the story - I think you did an admirable job of it - I may have more to add to the mini-series than the actual story itself.... ...later!...
I recently listened to The Langoliers for a second time, and loved it. It's one of my favorite. I've rated it #13 between Cell and The Institute on my list of all of King's novels, novells and short-stories. It's one of those King books that has a different feel from all his other books. It almost feels like he sometimes uses ghost-writers, but I know that King likes to experiment with different writing styles and try new things. I watched the two-episode TV show when it came out in 1995. The CG was acceptable for the time, but now looks dated. I didn't like having Bronson Pinchot play Craig Toomy. I associated him too strongly with his character on the sitcom Perfect Strangers. I wish this was redone as a movie. Stretching it to one of those 10 episode Netflix shows would spread it too thin.
The Langoliers definitely gave me Twilight Zone vibes. I really like it. I also really liked The Library Policeman in this collection, but I know it gets a lot of negative reviews. Was The Langoliers better as an audiobook, or as a physical read?
@@mtwice4586 I'm not a reader these days. I've never read The Langoliers. The only time I can read is when I'm trapped somewhere like sitting in a plane, bus, car, waiting room, etc. Our power went out for a week so I had no PC access to the Internet and no TV, so I would sit and read for hours. So given I was out in the woods with no TV, no Internet, and no saved videos on my smart-phone, I would read for hours. I once read The Long Walk while listening to the audiobook. That was interesting because there are some things you'll only notice when reading, for example there were a lot of names that were misspelled on purpose because it's an alternate reality, but they're pronounced the same, so you totally miss that when listening. There are other things you miss. You can't see when words are in a special font, italic, bold, underline, crossed out, hand-written, etc.
@@patcoston I am actually the opposite, haha. If I am listening to something, it is metal, haha. The only audiobooks I have listened to were some Louis L'amour that we would listen to when I was kid. We would drive from California to Kansas for a family reunion every year. It was such a memorable experience because were were driving through the west while listening to a western novel, so my imagination was in high-gear. I was literally seeing the landscapes that these books were set in and listening to these stories being told just heightened the experience. Take care.
@@mtwice4586 I like to listen to audiobooks while I'm doing other things like walking, biking, doing yard work, driving, preparing food, sitting on the toilet, etc. I can't listen to audiobook when I'm trying to concentrate on something else, like doing my work. I think my problem is that I'd rather be watching a video than reading, so it's a struggle for me just to sit and read, unless I have nothing else to do. I'm on my 8th read of The Long Walk. I'm rewriting it from McVries' point of view. I'm on my 19th listen of The Long Walk. I ended up listening to The Long Walk 10 times in a row on a very long commute where it kept me company. I would take notes each time through, writing down all the characters, documenting the entire timeline, and finding mistakes, etc. I'm currently listening to a RUclipsr read The Long Walk as ASMR, which is a problem because her voice is soft spoken, and I'm outside walking and it's hard to hear with cars passing. There are many RUclipsrs that have read The Long Walk. I find each reader brings a new perspective to the novel. I learn dozens of new things every time through. Me and my pals on the subreddit for The Long Walk continually discover new things, for example one guy just pointed out that Olson dropped his foodbelt on purpose to get more food from other walkers since he had finished all of his food too early.
@@patcoston Wow, that is some dedication. You should try publishing a "Guide to The Long Walk". It would be interesting see an organized and well-thought out dissection of it, or any of Stephen Kings' works for that matter.
It’s about as “on book” as it gets! The CGI has unfortunately tainted its reputation, which is sad considering how little the langoliers are actually on screen.
@A Great UndertaKING And it sucks because the langoliers sounded so cool in the book it just didn't translate to the screen well for the time it was made. Maybe some day we'll get a different take on it.
Believe it or not, someone has actually already done a different take on it, but I can’t find the full video anywhere! Will discuss it briefly in my next video!
I actually liked the langoliers tbh, was pretty interesting how Stephen King kinda went into a kinda abstract way of a time travel story. Haven’t seen the movie, but the langoliers looked terrible from what I’ve seen in clips, I honestly imagined them as more like Lovecraftian entities, maybe without the tentacles though
Have you seen The Boogeyman trailer. It looks nothing like Kings short story, but it looks ok. I have a feeling David Dasmalchian is going to be one of those actors that ends up in more than 1 Stephen King movie. He’s got that creep factor that most King stories have and I can see him in just about any King adaptation. Since you’re talking about the Langoliers in this video, he would make a great Craig Toomey
Great review from a great novella, and all brought to us from your on-site home cockpit.
Yep! I’m secretly a billionaire with his own private jet.
I always wondered what ate the past path that the langoliers created while they eat the current past...the langolangoliers if you will.
Later I realised it was just "turtles all the way down" in another way.
Nice use of "jejune", well finangled.
Ah yes, the Langolurtles. My friend Patrick was wondering if the Langoliers poop out the past when they’re done eating and now I’m spiraling down the pooping langolangoliers rabbit hole 😵💫
@@agreatundertaking I have yet to read the story, but I heard that they were described as just appearing like living organisms to the people in the story because the human mind could more easily handle living things chewing the landscape than whatever else they were. Is this true?
Well, if it is, then they were nothing like living organisms at all, so there shouldn't be any bodily waste products, I presume.
Maybe they were more like localized black holes? Consuming the still-frame past and turning it into HawKING radiation? Maybe feeding the time-crack with their radiation, which caused it to shine in those impossibly beautiful patterns and colors? Mere speculations on my part based on what I heard about the story. I have to check it out eventually, I really would love to find out how the langoliers were described by the novel in the end. Until then I just have those crazy ideas about them.
This is one of my favourite novellas despite recognizing the premise of the story from an 80s TZ episode.
When I saw the mini-series many, many years ago, it went right over my head. I recently got a copy of Four Past Midnight and can read it with much greater insight than I had back then. I was too young and naive I guess.
I completely understand. I definitely enjoyed most media with a surface level understanding for most of my life. It’s fun to revisit books and movies with a greater desire and ability to read between the lines though!
"Hi, I'm Geoff your Pilot, on tonight's flight I will not be wearing the standard Pilot's Cap and have swapped it for this Chauffeur's Cap.......... or is it the cap of a Hearse Driver MUAHAHAHAHA!!! 💀
Lol it’s also my police officer’s hat
Hi Mr Doyle. Haven’t read this one in years! I recall really enjoying it but never quite took away the insights you mention. Thanks! I do remember really enjoying the mini series as well. Solid cast as I recall. Take care.
Hi Paul! It had been a while since I had read it as well, and I enjoyed the re-read a great deal. Honestly, it was King’s forwards and remarks that got me looking at the story from a different angle. Just knowing where he was in his mind while writing allowed for a different perspective on it. As for the miniseries, it is mostly very good! Thanks again, Paul. I hope you’re having a good week.
I struggled in early readings, but somewhere around the third time, it clicked and I suddenly found this story brilliant. Perhaps, in my youth, I just wasn't ready to tackle the concepts it brings.
Hey H! I can see why maybe the story didn’t hit the same way back in the day. Once I read King’s musings on time and had that context, that really drove it home for me.
I remember really liking the Novella a lot ("The Langoliers" Mini-Series 1995, not TOO much 😂).
Thanks for the Review & Video 😀
The novella is quite enjoyable! I enjoyed revisiting the story. The miniseries is 100% overshadowed by the not-so-special effects…. Thanks, my friend!
@@agreatundertaking You're RIGHT the Mini-Series was NO WHERE near as BAD as the SFX. Thank You.
I’ve got the script for the miniseries video finished, and I think you’ll be astounded by just how little screen time the langoliers actually have. It was just SO terribly bad it is most, if not all, that people remember from the series lol
@@agreatundertaking Sometimes I "" WISH "" that some of the GOOD Movies with BAD Special Effects/Graphics would go back and Fix/Update JUST the Effects. 😀
9:47 I literally LOLd!
Great video! King's novellas are some of my favorite story's. Definitely a master of that genre
Thanks, Ryan! As much as I love the short stories and novels, I’m a sucker for the novella format as well!
Just found your channel and love the discussion on The Langoliers (which I recently re-read). I would LOVE to see you delve into Duma Key, my personal King favorite!
Hey Kevin! Thanks so much! I will get to Duma Key eventually, but since I’m going in publication order it could take me a while lol
Many of SK's stories are infused into various moments in my past. I read this one after my 'finding King' phase, and during my comfortable 'settling in' phase. Though it contains many SK tropes (the crazy guy who's almost comically crazy, the psychic little girl), I always loved this story. What I took from it was the concept of 'time' itself as a living thing. Something we could hardly understand but was alive nevertheless. The longer they stay in that frozen moment, the air growing stale, the fuel losing it's usefulness, was the experience of time dying and the inevitable cycle of it's death, the Langoliers coming to devour it.
Looking forward to the Sun Dog, 'pop Merrill' was always one of my favorite characters, "is what I mean to say".
I really like that interpretation! That’s the first time I’ve heard that perspective, time as a living thing, and it rings true! I really like that. I hope you’ll consider making your own vid exploring that subject and interpretation man!
@@agreatundertaking just might take you up on that...
Thanks for this undertaking ... It really was an interesting read, and, unfortunately, I dont have much more to say about the story - I think you did an admirable job of it - I may have more to add to the mini-series than the actual story itself....
...later!...
Thanks, Mouse! I hope you’re doing well!
This is strange. I noticed we can chat AND leave comments. I feel in the past we could only do one at a time.
Yeah the live chat and comment options are separate!
I recently listened to The Langoliers for a second time, and loved it. It's one of my favorite. I've rated it #13 between Cell and The Institute on my list of all of King's novels, novells and short-stories. It's one of those King books that has a different feel from all his other books. It almost feels like he sometimes uses ghost-writers, but I know that King likes to experiment with different writing styles and try new things. I watched the two-episode TV show when it came out in 1995. The CG was acceptable for the time, but now looks dated. I didn't like having Bronson Pinchot play Craig Toomy. I associated him too strongly with his character on the sitcom Perfect Strangers. I wish this was redone as a movie. Stretching it to one of those 10 episode Netflix shows would spread it too thin.
The Langoliers definitely gave me Twilight Zone vibes. I really like it. I also really liked The Library Policeman in this collection, but I know it gets a lot of negative reviews. Was The Langoliers better as an audiobook, or as a physical read?
@@mtwice4586 I'm not a reader these days. I've never read The Langoliers. The only time I can read is when I'm trapped somewhere like sitting in a plane, bus, car, waiting room, etc. Our power went out for a week so I had no PC access to the Internet and no TV, so I would sit and read for hours. So given I was out in the woods with no TV, no Internet, and no saved videos on my smart-phone, I would read for hours. I once read The Long Walk while listening to the audiobook. That was interesting because there are some things you'll only notice when reading, for example there were a lot of names that were misspelled on purpose because it's an alternate reality, but they're pronounced the same, so you totally miss that when listening. There are other things you miss. You can't see when words are in a special font, italic, bold, underline, crossed out, hand-written, etc.
@@patcoston I am actually the opposite, haha. If I am listening to something, it is metal, haha. The only audiobooks I have listened to were some Louis L'amour that we would listen to when I was kid. We would drive from California to Kansas for a family reunion every year. It was such a memorable experience because were were driving through the west while listening to a western novel, so my imagination was in high-gear. I was literally seeing the landscapes that these books were set in and listening to these stories being told just heightened the experience. Take care.
@@mtwice4586 I like to listen to audiobooks while I'm doing other things like walking, biking, doing yard work, driving, preparing food, sitting on the toilet, etc. I can't listen to audiobook when I'm trying to concentrate on something else, like doing my work. I think my problem is that I'd rather be watching a video than reading, so it's a struggle for me just to sit and read, unless I have nothing else to do. I'm on my 8th read of The Long Walk. I'm rewriting it from McVries' point of view. I'm on my 19th listen of The Long Walk. I ended up listening to The Long Walk 10 times in a row on a very long commute where it kept me company. I would take notes each time through, writing down all the characters, documenting the entire timeline, and finding mistakes, etc. I'm currently listening to a RUclipsr read The Long Walk as ASMR, which is a problem because her voice is soft spoken, and I'm outside walking and it's hard to hear with cars passing. There are many RUclipsrs that have read The Long Walk. I find each reader brings a new perspective to the novel. I learn dozens of new things every time through. Me and my pals on the subreddit for The Long Walk continually discover new things, for example one guy just pointed out that Olson dropped his foodbelt on purpose to get more food from other walkers since he had finished all of his food too early.
@@patcoston Wow, that is some dedication. You should try publishing a "Guide to The Long Walk". It would be interesting see an organized and well-thought out dissection of it, or any of Stephen Kings' works for that matter.
I love this story. I love the miniseries too. It's pretty close to the book but it just fails at the ending.
Agreed 100% on the miniseries!
@@agreatundertaking I read the book after I had already seen the miniseries. I was surprised how accurate the miniseries turned out to be.
It’s about as “on book” as it gets! The CGI has unfortunately tainted its reputation, which is sad considering how little the langoliers are actually on screen.
@A Great UndertaKING And it sucks because the langoliers sounded so cool in the book it just didn't translate to the screen well for the time it was made. Maybe some day we'll get a different take on it.
Believe it or not, someone has actually already done a different take on it, but I can’t find the full video anywhere! Will discuss it briefly in my next video!
The past is obdurate.
Well done man
I actually liked the langoliers tbh, was pretty interesting how Stephen King kinda went into a kinda abstract way of a time travel story. Haven’t seen the movie, but the langoliers looked terrible from what I’ve seen in clips, I honestly imagined them as more like Lovecraftian entities, maybe without the tentacles though
I like the novella quite a bit as well. It’s an interesting take on the time travel trope. The movie isn’t all that bad, until the end.
Does The Langoliers exist in the same universe as 11-22-63? If so, then there's a conflict. In 11-22-63, you can change the past.
Have you seen The Boogeyman trailer. It looks nothing like Kings short story, but it looks ok. I have a feeling David Dasmalchian is going to be one of those actors that ends up in more than 1 Stephen King movie. He’s got that creep factor that most King stories have and I can see him in just about any King adaptation. Since you’re talking about the Langoliers in this video, he would make a great Craig Toomey
Just watched it. Looks like a generic jump scare horror movie unfortunately. Dasmalchian is excellent though, so it’s at least got that going for it.
16:52 typo or does the font have a capital G that looks like a capital C?
Hahahaha! That bothered me but yeah the G looks like a C
The Langoliers must get full, always eating. I wonder what they poop out. Maybe they just fully disintegrate matter and time into nothing.
Maybe they poop out the present? Lol.
'creatures' nah they are just tooth meatballs
Lol fair enough
Have you discovered ChatGPT? Some RUclipsrs are using it to generate ideas or even full scripts for their RUclips videos.
I’ve heard of it but haven’t made any effort to explore it for myself.