Tonight at 7PM EST i'll be continuing my playthrough of TLOZ: Echoes Of Wisdom! ruclips.net/user/liveI3URi1zgpc0?feature=share Also make sure to stop by my other gaming & pop culture livestreams every Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday and Sunday at 7-8PM EST!
Let's get the petition to make Japanese companies introduce and enforce a Code of Ethics to succeed. The petition does tackle censorship, it is our best way to prove to the gaming industry there is no money to be made with censorship, only lost. The name of the petition is "Introduce A Code of Ethics for Localization of Japanese Media・ローカライゼーションの倫理規定" Help push it to fight against censorship that started with the localization industry and is now infesting the source.
*This for Dragon Quest Remake the publisher Sqaure Enix, The push for all eastern devs being forced by woke feminists working at “consultant groups” or “localizers” for the sole purpose of just censoring what they don’t like forcing developers to change thier games, Sqaure Enix has the ethics department, Capcom has a localizations team and Bandai Namco embracing DEI all because of the west woke activists pushing this onto eastern developers*
Legit. I can't even tell the difference between the two. Either people are greatly exaggerating this out of proportion, or they did an awful job for what they were trying to achieve
It's necessary when doing business with a foolish country. Hollywood also adjusts its movies to fit the standards of Muslim countries and China, right?
If they really want to cover up then they should only focus on newer games with a new art style. Tracing over Toriyama's work just to hide tight, tan clothes just feels scummy and disingenuous for the consumers.
I'm not a fan of DB, but I'm a passing fan of DQ. Toriyama's artstyle is one of the last few that replicates the old anime aesthetics of the 80's/90's. To get rid of that would not only be an insult to Toriyama, but the history of Japanese animation itself.
Also it speaks volyms how big of cowards they are. They didn't dear to go after the man's work when he was alive. But they do it when he is dead. Because they are acting real ghoulish.
While I think female characters' outfits are an incredibly incidental thing to be upset over, I will say it is very strange and hypocritical that the left says women being openly sexual is empowering, but then hate it when female characters are sexualized. Like...what do they really want then?
@NormanReaddis we just got to not spend money on it for it to hurt and if Japanese gamers aren't happy with this shit get loud and shit they can socially shame these Japanese companies and increase preassure on the Japanese companies to change course.
@@Malhonn The creator of DQ is technically (Sq)Enix, not Horii. He was just one of the lead developers, he can't change the current creative direction even if he wants to.
@@DemuDesu well, he doesnt talk about protesting these changes, like i heard some other japanese devs saying, to me that says he may have disagreed with it, but said and did nothing about it, even someone in his position can do at least something.
It is frankly ridiculous. "They" do not censor the blood, guts and violence in Mortal Kombat 1... but "they" do censor a bit of cleavage and feminine v-line ?!? So, violence is OK, but sex is NOT.
I just never understood the argument. There are feminist (that obviously don't play games) complaining about women being sexy and beautiful but us men have zero problem playing as someone that looks like Arnold Schwarzenegger and Sylvester Stallone had a baby. Let women be sexy
you see, your problem is that you dont have jealousy filling your dark withered heart, if you did, it would make sense. Also looking at character like Arnold and Sylvester makes us want to hit the gym or something, instead of complain
EXACT I also find it incredible what they did with Angela in SH2 remake... 20 years for a remake, and then this!? Clearly I'm not saying that the whole experience is "to be thrown away" (for now) But I saw the "knife scene" and nothing... I was disappointed!😢🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
The common argument tends to be that it's a "power fantasy" when it applies to men, so it's not the same. I don't agree with the sentiment, but I've seen the argument made easily a dozen times now.
The worst part is that they change the old game, and then people don't buy it - and the people who changed it say "Well, that's because this old game sucked"... It's never because of their changes. Everyone else is at fault but not them.
If everyone got together and bought the OG games/remasters on the same day as the remake launched, it would send a message. But the gaming community isn't all that unified or coordinated unless it's complaining about something trite like Nintendo.
@@OM3GA-Z3ROAnd then I remember about Snowbreak's Dev, Amazing Seasun. They must censored Snowbreak, since Someone reported them to CCP. But not long after, they Leak how to remove the censor 😅 Not officially, of course, but still... 😅
"If it's not western and WE don't like it, it's somehow more "offensive" and must be cancelled or censored for our personal comfort! We're so "inclusive" guys!" Censorship is like gouging out my eyes because a blind person is offended they can’t see. Disgusting.
It doesn’t really bother me per se.. But yeah it is nonsensical.. Like it’s a crime to point out gender smh Then I guess even the term transgender needs to be revised if that’s the case.. Go back to transvestite I suppose
Of course they waited till AFTER Toriyama died to change his designs. They knew damn well if he was still alive they would get bodied by the manga GOAT himself and stick with his design out of respect.
I wouldn't say he's fighting back as much as he's voicing his displeasure (it'd be fighting back if he actually took a stand to keep the game unchanged). still it's good he said that, that dispels any excuse of "it's natural! the industry is just maturing" crap.
If the female warrior being in skimpy armor will make the game rated MATURE, then make it a MATURE rated game! The only people interested in the game are the people who played the original game in 1989. None of those gamers are under 18 now!!!!!
Parents have to buy the games for the kids anyways so who exactly is it turning away? And parents already know wtf DQ is about because it's the BIGGEST franchise, IP, anything in Japan.
If putting small extra fabric around certain body areas shouldn’t be a problem according to game publishers, then why was the fabric added there if it weren’t to address a perceived problem?
Altering or censoring Akira Toriyamas original art is disrespectful and it's blasphemy, this so called modern audience games devs wanna cater to doesn't exist at all
So like... now that we know who is to blame, can we riot like a proper angry mob? I mean, they need to learn that we don't want em to represent us this way.
Maybe before we censor game characters, we should take a look at modern women and what they "wear" in the gym or in public these days. Many leave NOTHING to the imagination. But god forbid, a GAME character bares too much cleavage.
The "Modern Audience's" never support the games, movies, tv series that are censored or change to fill their narrative, this will flop like the others games in the industry that have done this.
If they are going to make remakes and then remove things that people want then, it's still just a worse game than it was before. Little to no point in doing that. Like Mass Effect "Legendary" edition. You remove ass shots but make some graphic layer slightly better? I'd rather just play the original. I wouldn't even play that version even if was free. Also graphics are really just getting slightly better for more loading times. It's not even a good trade-off at times. Dragon quest 3 though, could be worth playing I guess, not the remake. Only played Dragon Quest XI and thought it was quite fun!
so they censor because some people cannot handle some fan service or skin showing in a fictional game, then why not make that same complaint on a beach or pool or to actresses wearing revealing dresses at film launches or to people wearing less fabric due to the summer heat? why not tell those people to cover up because they are showing so much skin? The biggest question mark is why even change Male and Female to Type A or Type B? its still basically Male and Female just with a different label.
There's an old South Park episode (the original 'Mr. Hanky' episode, if I remember correct) that tackles censorship. It starts off small, then before you know it, everyone is getting offended at everything, and it ruins the holiday season for everyone. "Censorship is telling a man he can't eat his steak because a baby can't chew it." - Mark Twain (I think)
That's crazy " they need to make more games were the women are sexy and strong like stellar blade ❤💯👀👍👍the more skin the better ": great video my beautiful queen ❤❤❤❤
He isn't "fighting back", just voicing displeasure. "Fighting back" would amount to do away with all semblances of censorship entirely. Sorry but, as long as it stays censored, I'm not buying it. Actions speak louder than words.
@@Go_ki_bu_ri Baby steps when the game is this close to release and went gold two weeks ago? Doesn't work. They could start with simply renaming Type 1 and Type 2 (or A and B) to their proper names. It's not that hard to do. For the record, I don't buy Square suddenly wanting to get rid of woke after so many games with it either. Sweet Baby isn't the sole woke company to exist.
@@brtruev1710 - I hadn't been following the game too closely, so I wasn't aware of the release date, and thought it was still coming next year or so, so that influenced my comment. My bad. Squeenix has its own internal department too, so yes, but if the company sill works the way I've heard Japanese publishers work, if the pushback from the local market will mean anything to them, they may delay release to make changes if Japanese customers won't buy it. I only have translations to go off, but if they're any indication, even negative feedback, for example, AC Shadows, can be much more polite than most western users. One quote that seems to have gained some fame was from this user. “Why are you doing this?,” @spider0244 proclaimed (as machine translated via DeepL). “Why would they do this to a female Warrior in a remake of Dragon Quest III, one of the milestones of the Japanese bikini armor culture? Everyone involved should apologize at Akira Toriyama’s grave. If you’re going to give in to the political correctness, don’t do it with his designs.” If this reflects the opinions of the Japanese domestic market, they may have a problem.
@@Go_ki_bu_ri The game went gold in September 14, so two weeks have passed. As for AC Shadows, that's a different kettle of fish. Even discounting the game not looking that good and the controversy, Ubisoft themselves are being extremely toxic towards the gamers. Delaying it to 2025 will do more harm than help because it'll directly compete with GTA VI (the exact same thing they did with Rayman Legends back in the day). Regarding DQ3 HD, I'd expect, at least, the creator trying to reassure people something would be done (a day 1 patch could easily solve the issue) instead of going on a tirade and not giving anything concrete.
Akira is literally dead his work shouldn't be mutilated for preservation purposes. Like this should be a given because guess what all those old romantic paintings in museums. Guess what some of them were made purely for the eye candy and you don't see restorationists adding clothes on history. This is actually disgusting when you realize Akira is partially being erased and he JUST DIED.
Preservation? This isn't preservation, it's a cash cow. Remakes aren't preservation. That being said, I agree. TGS has an online event they hold ever year and this year they had a mini museum for Dragon Quest. It was hilarious and disgusting to see the censored DQ3 remake artwork right across the way from the uncensored original artwork counterparts. There's just no shame.
I heard about this previously, but I don't know if it still holds, but the way Japanese publishers supposedly work is to consider the local market first. Largely because of the language barrier, it's simpler to get feedback from the domestic customer base. One of the biggest of which is Akiba. If the sentiment expressed by the creators themselves is any indication, safe to say Japanese gamers are similarly displeased. And you're right...they will talk with their wallets. If they find out it won't sell in the domestic market, they will start feeling the pressure. I doubt they want to be as humiliated as Dustborn was at TGS.
@@Go_ki_bu_ri Japan doesn't play around when it comes to dissatisfaction. Unlike the West, they are not afraid to bury a company. That being said, many Japanese publishers have been alienating their Japanese demographic more and more lately in favor for the American demographic. Which is a terrible mistake
@@jase276 - I'll take the alienation of the domestic market with a grain of salt. Shortly after I posted my original comment, the video of the interview with Torishima and Horii was released here on YT. JP publishers might've been persuaded to think it was a good idea, but I'd like to see which way the JP buyers vote with their wallets.
Akira is gone, RIP, and Squeenix is woke. As far as I'm concerned, Sandlands is the last project he worked on, this franchise is done. It won't ever look like DQ again.
I could careless about body type A or B. It's when Original creations are censored for the modern audience. If it's a New game, fine, it might not sale, but that's their choice. Do Not Censor OG designs!
Yes it is when you mess with somebody's work they keep saying that is not a problem yes it is if it wasn't a problem why did you change it and as a person who draws and actually creates my own stuff I wouldn't want these people messing with the artwork I create its like vandalism or spitting in the face of the artist🤦
We need to fight back against the censorship. WE HAVE TO! I still plan to buy Dragon Quest III HD-2D because i don't want this franchise to die again in the West. I say this because this has happened before. Twice. The first time happened after 1992 when Enix didn't release any more DQ games after the fourth entry. That and three years later, Enix shut down their US branch. Then again in the year 2001 with the release of Dragon Warrior VII. I don't want it to happen again.
They try to justify it with "it's hot, so of course she'd wear something under the armor". But it's fantasy. They're fighting dragons and sentient balls of slime, why tf are we hyper focusing on this random aspect as if it were suddenly reality now?
They had such a good concept that would have made this collection great. But censorship ruined it. Toriyama would not have approved this. Chunsoft > Square Enix
They don't have a spine, they are all talk just to save face and avoid gamers crosshairs. If they did have a spine they would fight to stop these rampant censorships but no they are just sitting there, letting these censorships go through and be like: "Hey gamers, I am on your side, I am not happy too, don't @ me."
The thing is, for dragon quest 3 if you not pay: "BSnes, load rom" and you have the full experience. Same goes for Xenoblade Chronicles X and Tokyo Mirage session: "cemu load (restoration patched) iso" and you have full experience. While the remastered give less than the original why should i buy. The bigger problem: new games are gives even less ... nowadays new anime games from Japan gives less than the Chinese ones (anime and especially manga are still fine but the games? )
fighting back after the fact. If they really cared they would have pushed hard enough to not have to do this or they would have refused to make it. Complaining about it now after theyve already censored it does nothing.
You do know they could have threatened to do the whole thing without him right? Horii must’ve realized that the game would absolutely be ruined if he wasn’t involved. And given that it’s a remake of Dragon Quest THREE, once it was announced, there was just no going back without explanation, otherwise half of Japan would force him to commit seppuku.
If they're upset over these character's Attire they should go look at 'Margaret Brundage', the illustration artist for 'Weird Tales' back in 1930's and later the illustrator, 'Mort Kunstlar' for 'Conan the Barbarian' 1950
Well the mona lisa wasnt originally painted with a beard and a hairy chest. So who is going to care if i add one to the source file for every recreation that is available to buy, so that its inpossible to buy a recreation of the original. And were just gonna take the original and put it in a vault and loose the vault, then put my censored one on display. Because obviously Davinci didnt know what xze was doing when they painted it with so much cleavage visible. Not only that but it wasn’t sensitive to modern sensibilities thus it must be changed. I mean… its just a tiny change that doesn’t really matter anyway.
It does seem silly for SE to feel those outfit changes are needed because they feel they’ll lose too many sales by the game being T instead of E10+. I could be wrong but it seems like sales in the West aren’t affected much between T and E10+ games
Something you should know, the banning of games in Australia for drug use is old information. Australia hasn't had a game banned since the government introduced the 18+ rating for video games. Before that they were restricted to a 15+ rating, limiting what content could be shown on screen and thats why many were banned
I hope that DQ 12 does come out over here. Having announced the game three years back that they are aiming for a higher age demographic with the title, it could mean that Toriyama and Bird Studio would have had greater freedom in creating riskier character designs
The problem with this sort of decission is not the present, is not even the revision of the past either. It is...the future. By being obsessed with being "safe" for everyone you are also...well, being safe for everyone, you will not escandalize anyone, you will not provoke anyone, you will not impact anyone. If we are seeing a remake of an almost 30 years game is because back then someone had the guts to say "yeah, lets gonna put this" and thats the reason it became an icon. Tifa became virtual sex symbol because 20+ years ago all the horny teenagers played a game where she was a girl with tits so massive she needed ortopedic underwear. We are seing a remake of FFVII because the game SHOCKED the audience. In 20 years do you think anyone will remember the deadpan games done now? Games that didn't provoke or had anything memorable on them?
"It's not a big problem, it's just some more cloth" "If it's not a big problem, them why change the original design at all?" "Because then it's a big problem"
Tonight at 7PM EST i'll be continuing my playthrough of TLOZ: Echoes Of Wisdom! ruclips.net/user/liveI3URi1zgpc0?feature=share
Also make sure to stop by my other gaming & pop culture livestreams every Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday and Sunday at 7-8PM EST!
Let's get the petition to make Japanese companies introduce and enforce a Code of Ethics to succeed. The petition does tackle censorship, it is our best way to prove to the gaming industry there is no money to be made with censorship, only lost.
The name of the petition is "Introduce A Code of Ethics for Localization of Japanese Media・ローカライゼーションの倫理規定"
Help push it to fight against censorship that started with the localization industry and is now infesting the source.
Stop supporting Nintendo. Shit company for trying to sue Palworld.
I hope FromSoft breaks free from BanDEI Namco ASAP...
I am sorry, but I wan to say
at first, i saw your hair's colour. i thought you are feminist=Those people in sweet baby
if a a person's job is to try to put extra clothing on tiny ass pixels, they shouldn't have a job to begin with.
*This for Dragon Quest Remake the publisher Sqaure Enix, The push for all eastern devs being forced by woke feminists working at “consultant groups” or “localizers” for the sole purpose of just censoring what they don’t like forcing developers to change thier games, Sqaure Enix has the ethics department, Capcom has a localizations team and Bandai Namco embracing DEI all because of the west woke activists pushing this onto eastern developers*
Legit. I can't even tell the difference between the two. Either people are greatly exaggerating this out of proportion, or they did an awful job for what they were trying to achieve
It's necessary when doing business with a foolish country. Hollywood also adjusts its movies to fit the standards of Muslim countries and China, right?
Changing Toriyama's design is incredibly disrespectful.
I AGREE 👍 😊😊😊
If they really want to cover up then they should only focus on newer games with a new art style. Tracing over Toriyama's work just to hide tight, tan clothes just feels scummy and disingenuous for the consumers.
Indeed mate the woke Americans are insane.
It's like they took a piss on his grave. It's absolutely disgusting what they did.
I'm not a fan of DB, but I'm a passing fan of DQ. Toriyama's artstyle is one of the last few that replicates the old anime aesthetics of the 80's/90's. To get rid of that would not only be an insult to Toriyama, but the history of Japanese animation itself.
Censoring Akira Toryiamas art after he passes away for the "modern audience" is really evil actually
Also it speaks volyms how big of cowards they are. They didn't dear to go after the man's work when he was alive. But they do it when he is dead. Because they are acting real ghoulish.
@@EcardEcardianThey probably did try to, but the creator turned down that immediately because it was always a garbage idea
Are you aware that the subject is America? Could you please stop having ridiculous people assigned as buyers when selling games to your country?
If censorship isn't a big deal then there's no reason to censor in the first place.
Hopefully with more creators speaking out against censorship we get more games with female characters being sexy again. Women are allowed to be sexy.
Agreed 1000%.😎👍
I mean fair as long as the men are too, so it's equal
While I think female characters' outfits are an incredibly incidental thing to be upset over, I will say it is very strange and hypocritical that the left says women being openly sexual is empowering, but then hate it when female characters are sexualized. Like...what do they really want then?
@@RacingSnails64 If they're incidental, why censor them in the first place?
Yes, they are. Anyone is allowed. If anything, this gives people more reasons to take care of themselves.
Good to see the Dragon Quest creator fight back against censorship!
Still got made tho.
talking, but doing nothing about. he is just trying to save face
@NormanReaddis we just got to not spend money on it for it to hurt and if Japanese gamers aren't happy with this shit get loud and shit they can socially shame these Japanese companies and increase preassure on the Japanese companies to change course.
@@Malhonn The creator of DQ is technically (Sq)Enix, not Horii. He was just one of the lead developers, he can't change the current creative direction even if he wants to.
@@DemuDesu well, he doesnt talk about protesting these changes, like i heard some other japanese devs saying, to me that says he may have disagreed with it, but said and did nothing about it, even someone in his position can do at least something.
It is frankly ridiculous.
"They" do not censor the blood, guts and violence in Mortal Kombat 1... but "they" do censor a bit of cleavage and feminine v-line ?!?
So, violence is OK, but sex is NOT.
前から興味深いと思っていた事です。
アメリカでは、どんなグロテスクな描写も受け入れられます。
些細な性的描写でも嫌います。
日本は、全く逆です。
I just never understood the argument. There are feminist (that obviously don't play games) complaining about women being sexy and beautiful but us men have zero problem playing as someone that looks like Arnold Schwarzenegger and Sylvester Stallone had a baby.
Let women be sexy
you see, your problem is that you dont have jealousy filling your dark withered heart, if you did, it would make sense.
Also looking at character like Arnold and Sylvester makes us want to hit the gym or something, instead of complain
EXACT
I also find it incredible what they did with Angela in SH2 remake...
20 years for a remake, and then this!?
Clearly I'm not saying that the whole experience is "to be thrown away" (for now)
But I saw the "knife scene" and nothing... I was disappointed!😢🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
A lot of Truth in those words friend
The common argument tends to be that it's a "power fantasy" when it applies to men, so it's not the same. I don't agree with the sentiment, but I've seen the argument made easily a dozen times now.
It's all about emasculating men.
Censorship is bigotry. Saying it has no gameplay effect should mean it should be banned.
The worst part is that they change the old game, and then people don't buy it - and the people who changed it say "Well, that's because this old game sucked"...
It's never because of their changes. Everyone else is at fault but not them.
Or just buy the (uncensored) original for 1/10th of the price.
If everyone got together and bought the OG games/remasters on the same day as the remake launched, it would send a message. But the gaming community isn't all that unified or coordinated unless it's complaining about something trite like Nintendo.
Censoring of any kind should be rejected. My wallet is closed to censorship.
Best comment! 100% agree!!
First Mikami, then Nomura and now Hori are speaking up. Kudos to these brave pioneers.
It's all empty talk. None of them are actively doing shit. The game is still being made, it's still being censored.
All talk and saving face to avoid the gamers crosshairs, pretending to be on our side while just sitting there and allowing censorship to run rampant.
Mikami at least i know has always spoken his mind no matter if he burns bridges.
@@franciscor390 And? it is still all talk.
@@OM3GA-Z3ROAnd then I remember about Snowbreak's Dev, Amazing Seasun. They must censored Snowbreak, since Someone reported them to CCP. But not long after, they Leak how to remove the censor 😅 Not officially, of course, but still... 😅
it also possible that square-enix is using a different woke activist consultant firm
Yup and that is the reason its time to be vigilant
Square Enix also has an inhouse 'ethics department'...
They could have also just requested sweet baby inc. remove their logo from that page.
Yes,is Black Girl Gamers,New Bullshit
black girl gamesと新たに契約している事が発覚しています。
日本のゲーマーではもう有名で落胆しています。
"If it's not western and WE don't like it, it's somehow more "offensive" and must be cancelled or censored for our personal comfort! We're so "inclusive" guys!"
Censorship is like gouging out my eyes because a blind person is offended they can’t see. Disgusting.
I hope the game gets a rework and gets rid of all the censorship,then I will definitely buy the game.
We can only hope
I plan to personally mod it when comes out
@@Blackan👌🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I hope mods fix it
@@BlackanYou are still incentivizing the publishers to keep doing this. Wait for a stable pirate version to mod. Never take shortcuts.
Gamers around the world need to come together and say NO to WOKE censorship. This is a fight for the freedom and rights of gamers
*_"Modern Sensibilities"_*
TRANSLATION: *_"Bullsh*t"_*
It's nice to see creators of franchises not happy with unnecessary changes.
And the censor isn't even all, we got to deal with type A/B nonsense.
It doesn’t really bother me per se.. But yeah it is nonsensical.. Like it’s a crime to point out gender smh Then I guess even the term transgender needs to be revised if that’s the case.. Go back to transvestite I suppose
Its 1 and 2 now a and b are offensive now.
Where we're living is not California and we have no obligation to follow POV of them. That's all.
this will flop like the remake of dead rising with all of these censorships
Doubt it dead rising was way more censor
dragon quest flops in the west normally. will sell like hot cakes in jp regardless
@@uchennaobi5985 I'm in the west and will buy it
Of course they waited till AFTER Toriyama died to change his designs. They knew damn well if he was still alive they would get bodied by the manga GOAT himself and stick with his design out of respect.
If people want videogames to be art they must do away with censorship altogether. You can't have both.
They need to stop making remakes and remasters. They're all woke versions of good games.
nintendo popping off with them rn tho, ttyd remake is great
@@dragonicbladex7574 unfortunately that remake is tainted by Nintendo's awful localization team.
新作の続編も同じですよ。
Ghost of yoteiの声優とモデルは狂信的なLGBTQ活動家ですし、サッカーパンチの役職者にはスイートベイビーの熱烈な信者がいます。
More of a lament than a fight but it is relieving to hear that Yuji Horii is sane and doesnt understand removing male/female from games.
Good for you to the creator of Dragon Quest against censorship👍. Fight back.
You sit there and do nothing
@@OmegaRedFanWe do our part - I personally vote with my wallet.
I wouldn't say he's fighting back as much as he's voicing his displeasure (it'd be fighting back if he actually took a stand to keep the game unchanged). still it's good he said that, that dispels any excuse of "it's natural! the industry is just maturing" crap.
If anything, the industry is retroceding
DEIに不満が言えない欧米のクリエイターより日本のクリエイターのがまともだな
If the female warrior being in skimpy armor will make the game rated MATURE, then make it a MATURE rated game! The only people interested in the game are the people who played the original game in 1989. None of those gamers are under 18 now!!!!!
When did a mature rating ever stopped 8 y/o from playing CoD? 😋
Parents have to buy the games for the kids anyways so who exactly is it turning away? And parents already know wtf DQ is about because it's the BIGGEST franchise, IP, anything in Japan.
If putting small extra fabric around certain body areas shouldn’t be a problem according to game publishers, then why was the fabric added there if it weren’t to address a perceived problem?
Boycotting has always been the solution. Look at Bud Light.
They never get rid of their DEI hires, they just repurposed them.
Until the money dries up and wherever the DEI hires go end up unemployed.
Here in Europe you can drink like 10000 better beers before anything Bud.
コンコードも素晴らしい結果を見せていますね。
Shadowsの予約状況も成果が出ているようです。
The line in the sand has been drawn for me. If I can’t choose male or female, I’m not buying the game.
Altering or censoring Akira Toriyamas original art is disrespectful and it's blasphemy, this so called modern audience games devs wanna cater to doesn't exist at all
So like... now that we know who is to blame, can we riot like a proper angry mob? I mean, they need to learn that we don't want em to represent us this way.
We need more responses like this to the wave of half-@$$ed remakes that we’re drowning in right now
Maybe before we censor game characters, we should take a look at modern women and what they "wear" in the gym or in public these days. Many leave NOTHING to the imagination. But god forbid, a GAME character bares too much cleavage.
This is incredibly disrespectful to Toriyama. While I respect Yuji Horii for what he said, I absolutely won’t be giving Square Enix my money.
How can we help Yuji Hori?
I don't want this in the remake. How can an average fan reach out and make my voice heard on censorship?
I AM SO TIRED OF THESE PEOPLE.. exhausting, weirdos.
The "Modern Audience's" never support the games, movies, tv series that are censored or change to fill their narrative, this will flop like the others games in the industry that have done this.
I was looking forward to this game but I canceled my pre order
Its not even their fault ....
It’s about time devs start pushing back against censorship it’s getting worse as the years go by
It's the craziness of the DEI Inquisition
You hit it on every point and i agree im sick of it this needs to be shared to all gamers
Yuji Horii is king
If they are going to make remakes and then remove things that people want then, it's still just a worse game than it was before. Little to no point in doing that. Like Mass Effect "Legendary" edition. You remove ass shots but make some graphic layer slightly better? I'd rather just play the original. I wouldn't even play that version even if was free.
Also graphics are really just getting slightly better for more loading times. It's not even a good trade-off at times.
Dragon quest 3 though, could be worth playing I guess, not the remake. Only played Dragon Quest XI and thought it was quite fun!
so they censor because some people cannot handle some fan service or skin showing in a fictional game, then why not make that same complaint on a beach or pool or to actresses wearing revealing dresses at film launches or to people wearing less fabric due to the summer heat? why not tell those people to cover up because they are showing so much skin?
The biggest question mark is why even change Male and Female to Type A or Type B? its still basically Male and Female just with a different label.
Modern day woke devs say we must respect them then disrespect the entire history of the game industry
We need a Patch to Remove the Censorship as an "Option".
There's an old South Park episode (the original 'Mr. Hanky' episode, if I remember correct) that tackles censorship. It starts off small, then before you know it, everyone is getting offended at everything, and it ruins the holiday season for everyone.
"Censorship is telling a man he can't eat his steak because a baby can't chew it." - Mark Twain (I think)
The second they censored Akira Toriyamas work i removed it from my list
That's crazy " they need to make more games were the women are sexy and strong like stellar blade ❤💯👀👍👍the more skin the better ": great video my beautiful queen ❤❤❤❤
I hate that they want censorship in Asian games but they praise the surgical scars on the top in Dragon Age the veilguard.
He isn't "fighting back", just voicing displeasure. "Fighting back" would amount to do away with all semblances of censorship entirely.
Sorry but, as long as it stays censored, I'm not buying it. Actions speak louder than words.
Baby steps, friend. There're procedures for things like this, which unfortunately is the same reason some things take more time than we'd like.
@@Go_ki_bu_ri Baby steps when the game is this close to release and went gold two weeks ago? Doesn't work. They could start with simply renaming Type 1 and Type 2 (or A and B) to their proper names. It's not that hard to do.
For the record, I don't buy Square suddenly wanting to get rid of woke after so many games with it either. Sweet Baby isn't the sole woke company to exist.
@@brtruev1710 - I hadn't been following the game too closely, so I wasn't aware of the release date, and thought it was still coming next year or so, so that influenced my comment. My bad.
Squeenix has its own internal department too, so yes, but if the company sill works the way I've heard Japanese publishers work, if the pushback from the local market will mean anything to them, they may delay release to make changes if Japanese customers won't buy it. I only have translations to go off, but if they're any indication, even negative feedback, for example, AC Shadows, can be much more polite than most western users. One quote that seems to have gained some fame was from this user.
“Why are you doing this?,” @spider0244 proclaimed (as machine translated via DeepL). “Why would they do this to a female Warrior in a remake of Dragon Quest III, one of the milestones of the Japanese bikini armor culture? Everyone involved should apologize at Akira Toriyama’s grave. If you’re going to give in to the political correctness, don’t do it with his designs.”
If this reflects the opinions of the Japanese domestic market, they may have a problem.
@@Go_ki_bu_ri The game went gold in September 14, so two weeks have passed.
As for AC Shadows, that's a different kettle of fish. Even discounting the game not looking that good and the controversy, Ubisoft themselves are being extremely toxic towards the gamers. Delaying it to 2025 will do more harm than help because it'll directly compete with GTA VI (the exact same thing they did with Rayman Legends back in the day). Regarding DQ3 HD, I'd expect, at least, the creator trying to reassure people something would be done (a day 1 patch could easily solve the issue) instead of going on a tirade and not giving anything concrete.
DEIに不満すら言わない欧米のクリエイターたちと比べて日本のクリエイターのがまともだけどな😂
Akira is literally dead his work shouldn't be mutilated for preservation purposes. Like this should be a given because guess what all those old romantic paintings in museums. Guess what some of them were made purely for the eye candy and you don't see restorationists adding clothes on history. This is actually disgusting when you realize Akira is partially being erased and he JUST DIED.
Poor thing😢👍🏻
They don't even let him rest in peace... These idiots!😠🤦🏻♂️
Preservation? This isn't preservation, it's a cash cow. Remakes aren't preservation. That being said, I agree. TGS has an online event they hold ever year and this year they had a mini museum for Dragon Quest. It was hilarious and disgusting to see the censored DQ3 remake artwork right across the way from the uncensored original artwork counterparts. There's just no shame.
They know best what we are allowed to like and love! Consume product!
Boycott it until they restore his original designs. The only thing these companies hear is money so always make sure to talk with your wallets.
I heard about this previously, but I don't know if it still holds, but the way Japanese publishers supposedly work is to consider the local market first. Largely because of the language barrier, it's simpler to get feedback from the domestic customer base. One of the biggest of which is Akiba. If the sentiment expressed by the creators themselves is any indication, safe to say Japanese gamers are similarly displeased. And you're right...they will talk with their wallets. If they find out it won't sell in the domestic market, they will start feeling the pressure. I doubt they want to be as humiliated as Dustborn was at TGS.
@@Go_ki_bu_ri Japan doesn't play around when it comes to dissatisfaction. Unlike the West, they are not afraid to bury a company. That being said, many Japanese publishers have been alienating their Japanese demographic more and more lately in favor for the American demographic. Which is a terrible mistake
@@jase276 - I'll take the alienation of the domestic market with a grain of salt. Shortly after I posted my original comment, the video of the interview with Torishima and Horii was released here on YT. JP publishers might've been persuaded to think it was a good idea, but I'd like to see which way the JP buyers vote with their wallets.
I'd be pretty pissed off over that, too.
This makes me scared for Dragon Quest 12. I don't wanna lose another series I love.
Akira is gone, RIP, and Squeenix is woke. As far as I'm concerned, Sandlands is the last project he worked on, this franchise is done. It won't ever look like DQ again.
I could careless about body type A or B. It's when Original creations are censored for the modern audience. If it's a New game, fine, it might not sale, but that's their choice. Do Not Censor OG designs!
Let them put the changes into the game, BUT leave us an option to choose "original artstyle". Make it a choice and stop deciding for us.
This is also disrespectful to Akira toiryama creations
I don't support censorship so I won't buy it!
I refuse to pay for censorship.
Yes it is when you mess with somebody's work they keep saying that is not a problem yes it is if it wasn't a problem why did you change it and as a person who draws and actually creates my own stuff I wouldn't want these people messing with the artwork I create its like vandalism or spitting in the face of the artist🤦
They should find another publisher in the west. If they can't even get this right they have no business doing... business.
Vara in a chaimail bikini? Okay, I'm sold!
Even Elon Musk disapproved of the dragon quest changes when he commented on X about the interview that was given about the changes.
You should totally wear a chainmail bikini, then share picture of them with the internet. Requesting for a friend.
If its not a big deal why do it at all? While we're at it, why do you feel "threatened" by a object
Why can't we have funny and skimpy things again?
This is also happening to Soul Reaver 1/2 Remastered. Sad to see
We need to fight back against the censorship. WE HAVE TO!
I still plan to buy Dragon Quest III HD-2D because i don't want this franchise to die again in the West. I say this because this has happened before. Twice.
The first time happened after 1992 when Enix didn't release any more DQ games after the fourth entry. That and three years later, Enix shut down their US branch. Then again in the year 2001 with the release of Dragon Warrior VII. I don't want it to happen again.
So to fight back against censorship you're going to buy the censored product? Well, you sure showed them.
The redesign doesn't even make sense. Why would she wear bikini armor over khanki shorts? Reminds of Quailman from Doug.
They try to justify it with "it's hot, so of course she'd wear something under the armor". But it's fantasy. They're fighting dragons and sentient balls of slime, why tf are we hyper focusing on this random aspect as if it were suddenly reality now?
They really just classify women as "B" or "2"
Then they said it was more respectful to women
They had such a good concept that would have made this collection great. But censorship ruined it. Toriyama would not have approved this.
Chunsoft > Square Enix
This is great to hear. It is interesting that seemingly only the East has a spine.
I guess we’ll be supporting those studios more.
How do they have a spine? The game is still censored and coming out like that.
They don't have a spine, they are all talk just to save face and avoid gamers crosshairs. If they did have a spine they would fight to stop these rampant censorships but no they are just sitting there, letting these censorships go through and be like: "Hey gamers, I am on your side, I am not happy too, don't @ me."
My answer to censorship comes from the Duke...."Suck it down."
Glad to hear Yuji Horii speaking out about this. I will skip this game, I can’t support this, it’s just disrespectful to Toriyama.
The thing is, for dragon quest 3 if you not pay: "BSnes, load rom" and you have the full experience. Same goes for Xenoblade Chronicles X and Tokyo Mirage session: "cemu load (restoration patched) iso" and you have full experience. While the remastered give less than the original why should i buy.
The bigger problem: new games are gives even less ... nowadays new anime games from Japan gives less than the Chinese ones (anime and especially manga are still fine but the games? )
I was going to pre-order it for Switch.
I'm no longer.
fighting back after the fact. If they really cared they would have pushed hard enough to not have to do this or they would have refused to make it. Complaining about it now after theyve already censored it does nothing.
You do know they could have threatened to do the whole thing without him right? Horii must’ve realized that the game would absolutely be ruined if he wasn’t involved. And given that it’s a remake of Dragon Quest THREE, once it was announced, there was just no going back without explanation, otherwise half of Japan would force him to commit seppuku.
I dont think you understand how many forces are at work
@@paperluigi6132 well then you're still proving the point that he cared more about money and reputation than his principles
@@RaginCanadian-gx2zl they're cowards, pure and simple. And greedy since they accept the money gladly.
@@JohnDoe-pt7ru principles dont pay bills and he doesnt have that kind of power. Stop being obtuse.
This game is made with love and his creator of course will be mad
If they're upset over these character's Attire they should go look at 'Margaret Brundage', the illustration artist for 'Weird Tales' back in 1930's and later the illustrator, 'Mort Kunstlar' for 'Conan the Barbarian' 1950
Well the mona lisa wasnt originally painted with a beard and a hairy chest. So who is going to care if i add one to the source file for every recreation that is available to buy, so that its inpossible to buy a recreation of the original. And were just gonna take the original and put it in a vault and loose the vault, then put my censored one on display. Because obviously Davinci didnt know what xze was doing when they painted it with so much cleavage visible. Not only that but it wasn’t sensitive to modern sensibilities thus it must be changed.
I mean… its just a tiny change that doesn’t really matter anyway.
It does seem silly for SE to feel those outfit changes are needed because they feel they’ll lose too many sales by the game being T instead of E10+. I could be wrong but it seems like sales in the West aren’t affected much between T and E10+ games
Guess Square is cleaning up, Maybe KH4 can still be saved from the weirdos
Something you should know, the banning of games in Australia for drug use is old information. Australia hasn't had a game banned since the government introduced the 18+ rating for video games. Before that they were restricted to a 15+ rating, limiting what content could be shown on screen and thats why many were banned
As a former Guilty Gear fan, let me welcome my Dragon Quest brothers who also had their franchise ruined for the sake of Californian investors.
「ただ言ってるだけ」とかほざいてる外人おるけど、何も言わないアメリカのゲームクリエイターよりマシじゃね？
I hope that DQ 12 does come out over here. Having announced the game three years back that they are aiming for a higher age demographic with the title, it could mean that Toriyama and Bird Studio would have had greater freedom in creating riskier character designs
Sweet baby gonna change their name and then Square Enix will hit them up again
Can we call it fantasy or escapism if some people want to inject reality into it ?
The problem with this sort of decission is not the present, is not even the revision of the past either. It is...the future. By being obsessed with being "safe" for everyone you are also...well, being safe for everyone, you will not escandalize anyone, you will not provoke anyone, you will not impact anyone. If we are seeing a remake of an almost 30 years game is because back then someone had the guts to say "yeah, lets gonna put this" and thats the reason it became an icon. Tifa became virtual sex symbol because 20+ years ago all the horny teenagers played a game where she was a girl with tits so massive she needed ortopedic underwear. We are seing a remake of FFVII because the game SHOCKED the audience. In 20 years do you think anyone will remember the deadpan games done now? Games that didn't provoke or had anything memorable on them?
I'm glad they feel this way, but they said nothing of a removal. I'll just play the original in 3dSen, thanks.
"It's not a big problem, it's just some more cloth"
"If it's not a big problem, them why change the original design at all?"
"Because then it's a big problem"
Nice to see he agrees, unfortunately I'm still not buying any product that is censored in any way.
I'm hoping and praying that they don't do any censorship whatsoever in Dragon Quest 12.
The late Akira Toriyama died exactly 7 months ago, and now wokávists are vandalizing his art too?!😡
Boycott these practices