Very Informative, as always. A little film on major penalties would have been nice, and entertaining as well. Some hockey contact, besides fighting, is as great as any other sport.
Glad I found this channel. Been a hockey fan since I was a kid (28 now). Never really got into into the weeds of all these things, but recently I’ve been wanting to follow along more. Could you please go over how contracts and waivers work? Also, Hockey town fan here ! Go wings ! Guess who’s getting that Calder ;)
Glad you've found the videos helpful! I have a list of videos I'm going to make and contracts/waivers is on it. I also follow the Kraken closely so 101 videos have slowed down during the season but I have a couple more in the works and will probably pump a few more out in February with the break.
As a football fan who never understood hockey rules, thank you so much for explaining this. Most penalties outside of offside and icing have been difficult for me to wrap my head around. I get the major vs. minor and most of the misconduct stuff, but some of it is really weird. High-sticking meaning two different things and one is a penalty also is confusing at times. Also forechecking. Fighting as a major still makes very little sense to me. Because I feel like that penalty should be called every single time a player drops gloves and starts punching. Considering it's still normally 5-on-5 (a minor like failed challenge removes a player from the ice, but a major like fighting doesn't?), what's the point? Both teams lose a brawler for 5 minutes... IDK. It doesn't seem like a "major" deal. I can't tell the difference, especially with line changes. Maybe if you lose someone like Sidney Crosby or Wayne Gretzky or a goalie or something, yeah, those would be significant losses. But it seems almost meaningless 95% of the time. Anyway, thank you again for this video series. It *really* helped explain things. Go Lightning!
Glad to help! Anything I can do to help lessen that barrier to entry for new fans! Yeah some of the shared names for things can get confusing. High sticking I guess you could think of it as; you're not allowed to hit anything above shoulder level with your stick but it's only a penalty if that something is an opponents head. There are a few kinds of checking so the confusion there is also very understandable. Here's a quick guide: A check: basically a hit Forecheck: aggressively going for the puck in the opponents end of the ice (this is legal and a key part of offensive strategy) Back check: like forecheck but for defense. Basically a team coming back towards their end to defend an opponent's offensive attack Cross check: hitting an opponent with your stick (while you have two hands on it spread apart and hit them with the middle, like you would do if you were going to break a stick over your knee). This one is a penalty, but it's historically one that is very loosely enforced, kind of like holding in football (assuming you meant Americans football) where there is a lot of it that happens and doesn't get called. It's really only the particularly bad or obvious ones that draw a penalty.
Boarding is when a player gets checked into the boards in a dangerous way / when they are defenseless. A check is basically just a hit, tho it's also used to refer to when a player on the opposing team goes after the player with the puck to try to take the puck. Short version checking is legal, but if done at the wrong time can lead to an illegal play like boarding.
@@CheapSeatsSports depends how they kick. Hitting with the shin is usually not life threatening (not that it doesn't easily produce injury), or with anything other than the blade for that matter unless it lands on the neck or head or something like that. Blade on some parts of the padding also wouldn't be life threatening (again, not that it isn't intolerably dangerous)
Hi! Thanks for the video🙏🏼 If you ever make any more of these I would appreciate some examples (like short footage from the game) I think that’d help a lot!:)
Glad you found it helpful! I will be doing more 101s over time, but using game footage is really tricky because of copyrights. I can get away with screenshots so maybe I'll try that where it works.
The ending made me think - why are the other major penalties never called? Do they no longer fit? Are they overruled by new ones? Were they put there after something specific that never happened again? 🤔 (you wrote "5 minUet major" under the video 🙈)
@Reed Miller new fan so im jw could it be a trend that comes back once enough of the league lets it go? id assume it could be pretty advantageous when its more of a after thought to most teams.
Fights suck nowadays, teams are fucking lame and so are the refs. They don't even just let them go. They break it up and the cameras cut away. I rarely see fight instigator get called anymore. Teams are too soft.
glad to find this channel
been a casual nhl watcher but this is the first season i been following weekly
Glad to help!
Very Informative, as always. A little film on major penalties would have been nice, and entertaining as well. Some hockey contact, besides fighting, is as great as any other sport.
Yeah eventually I'd like to get some game video included, but copyrights are trick and I don't have time for that minefield right now haha.
Please do a whole other video on the history of fighting in hockey. Please please please.
Interesting, I hadn't thought of that but that might not be a bad idea!
Glad I found this channel. Been a hockey fan since I was a kid (28 now). Never really got into into the weeds of all these things, but recently I’ve been wanting to follow along more.
Could you please go over how contracts and waivers work?
Also, Hockey town fan here ! Go wings ! Guess who’s getting that Calder ;)
Glad you've found the videos helpful! I have a list of videos I'm going to make and contracts/waivers is on it.
I also follow the Kraken closely so 101 videos have slowed down during the season but I have a couple more in the works and will probably pump a few more out in February with the break.
If you're going for the football comparison I would have used Running Into the Kicker (5 yrds) vs Roughing the Kicker (15 yrds).
That would work too.
As a football fan who never understood hockey rules, thank you so much for explaining this. Most penalties outside of offside and icing have been difficult for me to wrap my head around. I get the major vs. minor and most of the misconduct stuff, but some of it is really weird. High-sticking meaning two different things and one is a penalty also is confusing at times. Also forechecking.
Fighting as a major still makes very little sense to me. Because I feel like that penalty should be called every single time a player drops gloves and starts punching. Considering it's still normally 5-on-5 (a minor like failed challenge removes a player from the ice, but a major like fighting doesn't?), what's the point? Both teams lose a brawler for 5 minutes... IDK. It doesn't seem like a "major" deal. I can't tell the difference, especially with line changes. Maybe if you lose someone like Sidney Crosby or Wayne Gretzky or a goalie or something, yeah, those would be significant losses. But it seems almost meaningless 95% of the time.
Anyway, thank you again for this video series. It *really* helped explain things. Go Lightning!
Glad to help! Anything I can do to help lessen that barrier to entry for new fans! Yeah some of the shared names for things can get confusing. High sticking I guess you could think of it as; you're not allowed to hit anything above shoulder level with your stick but it's only a penalty if that something is an opponents head. There are a few kinds of checking so the confusion there is also very understandable. Here's a quick guide:
A check: basically a hit
Forecheck: aggressively going for the puck in the opponents end of the ice (this is legal and a key part of offensive strategy)
Back check: like forecheck but for defense. Basically a team coming back towards their end to defend an opponent's offensive attack
Cross check: hitting an opponent with your stick (while you have two hands on it spread apart and hit them with the middle, like you would do if you were going to break a stick over your knee). This one is a penalty, but it's historically one that is very loosely enforced, kind of like holding in football (assuming you meant Americans football) where there is a lot of it that happens and doesn't get called. It's really only the particularly bad or obvious ones that draw a penalty.
What is the distinction between checking and boarding?
Boarding is when a player gets checked into the boards in a dangerous way / when they are defenseless. A check is basically just a hit, tho it's also used to refer to when a player on the opposing team goes after the player with the puck to try to take the puck.
Short version checking is legal, but if done at the wrong time can lead to an illegal play like boarding.
The extent to which violence is accepted but behaviours like spearing and kicking are practically unheard of is a very interesting social phenomenon
Well to be fair kicking in hockey is literally life threatening, but I get what you mean.
@@CheapSeatsSports depends how they kick. Hitting with the shin is usually not life threatening (not that it doesn't easily produce injury), or with anything other than the blade for that matter unless it lands on the neck or head or something like that. Blade on some parts of the padding also wouldn't be life threatening (again, not that it isn't intolerably dangerous)
Great video man! The thread on your chin from 5:29 was quite funny lmao. Keep up the great work!
I didn't know it was there until editing lol. Tried to edit around as much as possible, but what can ya do
Hi! Thanks for the video🙏🏼 If you ever make any more of these I would appreciate some examples (like short footage from the game) I think that’d help a lot!:)
Glad you found it helpful! I will be doing more 101s over time, but using game footage is really tricky because of copyrights. I can get away with screenshots so maybe I'll try that where it works.
Ah got it
History of fighting! History of fighting! Video about history of ice hockey fighting please!
I have thought of that and probably will do that at some point! Good to know someone would be interested tho!
The ending made me think - why are the other major penalties never called? Do they no longer fit? Are they overruled by new ones? Were they put there after something specific that never happened again? 🤔
(you wrote "5 minUet major" under the video 🙈)
Mostly they are just rare, things that basically never happen but just in case they do there's a rule there for it.
Are there common reasons players will fight?
Very informative, thank you!
@Reed Miller new fan so im jw could it be a trend that comes back once enough of the league lets it go? id assume it could be pretty advantageous when its more of a after thought to most teams.
Good video. Use video examples!
I would love to but unless I find people to act it out then there are copyright issues I don't have the time to deal with.
@@CheapSeatsSports Makes sense. Even minor leagues? or beer leagues footage?
I went to a fight one time, and a hockey game broke out.
Ah yes the 70s
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That's a mouthful lol
Fights suck nowadays, teams are fucking lame and so are the refs. They don't even just let them go. They break it up and the cameras cut away. I rarely see fight instigator get called anymore. Teams are too soft.
I'm a big fan of brain damage and drinking out of straws.
It’s not neither sides fault, so relax and let the game handle any current fight it’s available. There really is no need to complain