Just their blood and not their body and soul? They need that to fully ressurect this game and not just have a half-baked homunculus of a game after the sacrifice.
Its great that they finally have done something, but even with that, im still not playing tf2, not because i dislike the game, but i have still problems with monetization (aka All the Trash Cosmetics) and the shitty matchmaking, i'll add as a comentary that this has left me room to try exelent games
59:40 rare shit take from zesty. Ruining someone's life over a video game? Really? Also if such an approach to offenders worked, then the countries with death penalty wouldn't have crime and yet they do. It's especially funny to hear this from someone who supposedly suffered from a irl harassment over a video game.
Difference is, zesty expressed opinions about the game, the bot hosters are actually costing valve money and time working on fixing it, I think it's a bit different and using the blanket term of "ruining someones life over a video game" is ignorant considering shit happens all the time in video games where people get charged with legal action like with the gta6 leaker
@@stewestgriffin7404 The ones who are involved in the shady financial schemes are idle bothosters - they haven't been touched by this ban system. The ones zesty mentions in the time code are cheaters and cheat bot owners and they are mostly silly kids with issues (as zesty himself stated in this video) who mildly inconvience someone's evening - and deserves a 20 year term felony charge (according to zesty) just for that? Really?
@@lordsuslik Some bots impersonate people that bot hosters don't like that would say some heinous shit, sabotage the whole server with ddos attacks (which is illegal), promoting Cheese Pizza, promoting protection from bots (questionable on legality), and probably more. Also don't forget that they dox and swat people which is illegal too
@@hoodcate it's not that it's been hard, since Im not into unboxing. It's mostly been abstaining from MvM and any community market purchases. Mostly since I was collecting skins from each collection for my favorite weapon, so I've just put that on hold.
Zesty, you will never see this but I want to say this. You may not want to take a lot of credit, and many creators won’t give it to you, but your video on idle bots was the kick in the balls the community needed. Everyone knew the steam number was wrong, but very few actually knew it was accounting for at least 70% (if you knew it, good for you, but a lot of people didn’t). And I’m probably the prime example. I figured that with a high player count valve would eventually come to their senses and realize there was still profit to be had to at least invest a little in this game. After watching your video, I was devastated, I felt like the game was doomed. And then fixtf2 came(and even directly mentioned your video in weezy’s announcement vid). Would it work? I don’t know. I still don’t know. They clearly didn’t care about it the first round through. So reason do we have to be positive toward valve this time? You were right. Valve deserves every bit of humiliation we have given them. And I am not going to stop humiliating, boycotting, and hurting their potential sales toward deadlock until they have made a consistent long term effort to maintaining this game.
even if the bot video gave us pain, it actually positive thing. now we know we have like 1000 aim bot account out there. this is considerably much easier to deal with. and it mean, even if it easy to buy stolen steam account or make new one, it is an easier treadmill work. tf2 don't have cheating industry like CS, you only got bot hoster loser and hobbyist cheat maker devs. that being said, if we get quick play back. that will be a bigger blow to the bot than anything. #BringBackQuickplay
We do need to keep pushing, thankfully there are effort being put in place and there are proof with cheaters and new bot hoster accounts getting banned rather swiftly
I'm pretty sure he's just being humble. When you understand that you have a fraction of that kind of influence, it's really easy to fall into grandiose narcissism.
I know it copium but I hope we have more "doing a security check" stuff. It doesn't have to be weekly, but gotta be more then once in a blue moon situation.
It's funny that you always say that other popular youtubers would get a lot more viewers on their streams... Well, ShorK is streaming as of right now and he has 89 viewers only. Guess your community is much more active!
Even if it is true that this is a sustainable solution in the works for over two years, the entire situation has still been completely unacceptable 1. two years is not five years, so that's a full three years where Valve knew it was needed, but wasn't working on it. 2. Even when they _were_ working on it, they said absolutely nothing, even though they knew the playerbase was at the boiling point.
I see your point, but also if Valve were to make their anti-cheat solution public, the bot hosters would quickly figure out what it is and find a way around it.
@@Delta225 That's not what I mean. They wouldn't have to mention any technical details at all. All they would've needed to do is, at _any_ point in the past _two years_ , say "we're actively working on a solution. We can't say anything about it, but it'll probably take a couple of years". And then _occasionally_ a status update. Y'know, the kind of thing that is completely standard, expected practice for a company.
10:26 this comment by Goody is peak "new tf2 player who doesn't know anything about valve". VALVE never communicates about this kikd of stuff. Or anything else really. They could be adding teh finishing touches to a newly updated VAC and we'll never know
So if Valve has been working on this for two years why did they make the whole treadmill work argument? I have a feeling this anti-bot system was intended for CS2 and wouldn't be surprised if TF2 is now being used as testing grounds for it. I know that's a hugely cynical take but it's a hypothetical I can't help but bring up. Not even out of malice against Valve. I wonder how things would've been if TF2 never went F2P. Maybe dead because people would've hated having microtransactions in a paid title. Even though it already was that in the past, and newer games already are paid but full of microtransactions because of it. Or maybe it remaining paid would've prevented this bullshit.
As someone who has played competetive Counter Strike for close to a decade about a decade ago, I hate ESports, for 4 reasons: 1: Every game being made, is now made to be fully optimized to be the next big ESports. Casual games are very far and few between. 2: Everyone is sweating really fucking hard because now being exceptionally good at video games can be a genuine way to bring food on the table. Casual players are very far and few between. 3: Match Making replaced server browsers and the community inside of games have ceased to exist leading to massive amount of toxicity because no one can relate to one another or get to become friends, I met most of my friends in CSCZ, CSS, TFC and TF2 about a decade ago. 4: Before ESports, competitive gaming was already super sweaty, we were trying to be the best and would try to win no matter what, but the community itself outside of matches was a lot more chill, before and after matches, we all were friends, now, everyone fucking hates eachother, ESports not only ruined casual gaming, but also ruined competitive gaming too. As someone who has played competitive Counter Strike for close to a decade about a decade ago, I hate how me and my friends are partially responsible for the shit show we have today, I have good memories, but was it worth it? I don't know, I'm not so sure. I guess the real culprit is money, money always ruin everything, but aat first I was excited, we were recognised for what we were doing, but when I wanted to relax, I played TFC, then TF2, and it was great, I miss that, now to relax, I have to play a single player game with cheats... it's really not the same.
Pog. Now reddit and Tf2 RUclipsrs have the permission to make "Unbox 50 Summer Case Videos". We are so back, for 2 weeks until the bots come back abd Valve has left with a giant sack that has a doller sign printed on its sign.
The guy who donated those 5$ and said he got banned in TF2 also mentioned that he rage cheated This could mean that this system does bare minimum and only detects the most blatant cheats Even further reasoning to not let your guard down
The debate? Oh, you mean the one between two old 12,000 hour mercenaries whom feel the need to yell at each other about a random mechanic that gives you double damage, right? Or is it the one about the B.A.S.E. Jumper, I can't remember.
There wasn't tons of bot hosters back in early TF2 because it wasn't as publicly accessible. It's the same reason there wasn't tons of trading bots back in early TF2 and people used to trade on servers.
the cheating bots are actually a huge deal and valve kicking then automatically would be the equivalent of releasing half life for anti-cheats. specially if it runs server sided. but atleast the one hard working mantainer is doing a fantastic job i guess, valve refuses to give the minimum ammount of communication.
10:10 it is a reaction on fixtf2 though. Just because Valve made a system and sat on it for 2 years doesn't mean they would have released it at all unless they had to.
idle bots and manual bann of a cheaters and aim bots is just crazy and prolly not sustainable. There needs to be permanent solution of VAC or easy anticheat update.
Banning the bots is fine and shows that valve has a modicum of care, which is fine and should be seen as a good thing, but then matchmaking is still a terrible system, competitive was still a mistake, the nerfs were still a mistake, the system itself still facilitates bots and the game will still be vulnerable to them the next time valve gets lazy and the cycle of hating on valve starts all over again. What can people do to make TF2 future proof against bots? I don't know. You can't JUST beg valve to bring quickplay back or revert the last 2 updates...
You can't even be idle for that long in a single server, You get autokicked after 7 hours on a server even if you move And if u made your own the server it just shuts down.
For the People that asked that; *"Why didn't Valve told Us that they were doing a Ban Wave"* Well, the answer is actually quite Obvious, ban waves, usually come unexpected. They meant to surprise and catch the Banned ones Off Guard. Telling the Community, would also tell the Cheaters and Bot Hosters, which takes away the Element of Surprise. And it would give them less time to prepare for that Said, Ban wave.
We need Quickplay again. Then TF2 will be perfect. Don't buy anything from their shops until those changes are made. And screw the cheaters who lost their accounts; they knew this would eventually happen. Some flew too close to the sun and fell with regret.
As in Quickply instead of Casual system? That's no-go, having some bland servers is great for anybody, as you can try out the shit in the intended enviroment. Having Quickplay as another option would be great, though
@littlehorn0063 Oh of course an option is fine. Like you have casual and quickplay as menu choses, pretty standard menu system that could been done from the beginning at 2016. If you search pre 2016, you will see that the devs could of done that instead no quickplay.
I'm gonna say this once again that telling people to boycott the game by not buying anything from the in-game store is literally impossible. Yes, some may do it but others will still going to buy them either way, since that's their choice and their own wallet. So yeah, you have to be delusional for even saying that
Noone asks that every single player should stop paying for stuff ingame. It's impossible i agree, but people that may listen, could make a difference by not paying for a terrible service. It makes more impact on a game and maybe Valve, than a petition. As many people when petition was anounced said "What do i lose from trying?" why not try to not spend money on a game and ask another players to do the same? What do you lose form trying?
@@TheZerken i would agree with you if the actual people spending on the in game shop weren't a literal drop in the bucket, compared to basically anyone with a single functioning braincell who's using 3rd parties and getting stuff cheaper. even boycotting the new case wouldn't do much, as the main reasons it would get unboxed is new unusuals, but the new limited pool would stay locked to the new case even when the update ends, making new hats with new effects unboxable later too, just at lower odds. the big spenders would just buy older cases and keys from 3rd parties anyways for forever unusuals, as unlike in cs, we have tradeable keys. my honest opinion until today was either do in person protests, or hope to gaben himself that the few people working on the game start doing their job, and by the looks of it he has been, lets just pray he keeps it up. who know, with this and as time passes, maybe they decide to hire another intern, or full-time employees crazy enough to do tf2 full time and fix everything else. but, for now, i am contempt. my favorite game gets to be enjoyed by the people for another while to come.
I would push back against the idea that Valve bans cheaters, I have been blatantly cheating in casual matchmaking for about a month now, and my profile is still not banned.
The janitor and cactus pot put their blood into this
janitor solos
Sweat too and a singular tear
Just their blood and not their body and soul? They need that to fully ressurect this game and not just have a half-baked homunculus of a game after the sacrifice.
@@LoneSWarrioroooh I get it. Good one man, FMA is PEAK
I hope they are not doing it for free
Zesty your hairline is perfect, ideal even, looks manly
The problem is that its rare for hairlines like that to stay. The hairline will probably just recede more.
Least committed Zesty Shit stan
Its great that they finally have done something, but even with that, im still not playing tf2, not because i dislike the game, but i have still problems with monetization (aka All the Trash Cosmetics) and the shitty matchmaking, i'll add as a comentary that this has left me room to try exelent games
Matchmaking I agree but cosmetics do not really matter you do not need cosmetics to have a fun game
Then you might as well quit TF2 forever
59:40 rare shit take from zesty.
Ruining someone's life over a video game? Really?
Also if such an approach to offenders worked, then the countries with death penalty wouldn't have crime and yet they do.
It's especially funny to hear this from someone who supposedly suffered from a irl harassment over a video game.
Difference is, zesty expressed opinions about the game, the bot hosters are actually costing valve money and time working on fixing it, I think it's a bit different and using the blanket term of "ruining someones life over a video game" is ignorant considering shit happens all the time in video games where people get charged with legal action like with the gta6 leaker
@@stewestgriffin7404 The ones who are involved in the shady financial schemes are idle bothosters - they haven't been touched by this ban system.
The ones zesty mentions in the time code are cheaters and cheat bot owners and they are mostly silly kids with issues (as zesty himself stated in this video) who mildly inconvience someone's evening - and deserves a 20 year term felony charge (according to zesty) just for that? Really?
@@lordsuslik Some bots impersonate people that bot hosters don't like that would say some heinous shit, sabotage the whole server with ddos attacks (which is illegal), promoting Cheese Pizza, promoting protection from bots (questionable on legality), and probably more. Also don't forget that they dox and swat people which is illegal too
Deserved. If you do illegal stuff then you ask for it🤷♂️
@@FrancisL4D Which law specifically makes usage of the aimbot or other cheats illegal?
still not spending a cent. im gonna need some serious commitment over the next few months to let up.
Like not spending money on a game (SPECIALLY TF2) is hard at all.
@@hoodcatesome people are junkies for games
My nigga, you shouldn't spend money on nonexistant pixels in an online casino in the first place
You shouldn't spend money on a nonexistant pixels in an online casino in first place.
@@hoodcate it's not that it's been hard, since Im not into unboxing. It's mostly been abstaining from MvM and any community market purchases. Mostly since I was collecting skins from each collection for my favorite weapon, so I've just put that on hold.
Valve be like: Ah finally... Treadmill work
someone pointed out to me zesty looks like if jerma was from texas and i can't get it out of my head now
he looks like if Jerma had a "weird uncle" stereotype
Which is funny considering the height difference between the two, jerma is like this avarage guy at 5.8 5.9 while zesty is this Goliath at 6.7 lmfao
@@doctordice2doctordice210David and Goliath battle when
he really gives off a jerma vibe for some reason
Zesty, you will never see this but I want to say this. You may not want to take a lot of credit, and many creators won’t give it to you, but your video on idle bots was the kick in the balls the community needed. Everyone knew the steam number was wrong, but very few actually knew it was accounting for at least 70% (if you knew it, good for you, but a lot of people didn’t). And I’m probably the prime example. I figured that with a high player count valve would eventually come to their senses and realize there was still profit to be had to at least invest a little in this game. After watching your video, I was devastated, I felt like the game was doomed. And then fixtf2 came(and even directly mentioned your video in weezy’s announcement vid). Would it work? I don’t know. I still don’t know. They clearly didn’t care about it the first round through. So reason do we have to be positive toward valve this time? You were right. Valve deserves every bit of humiliation we have given them. And I am not going to stop humiliating, boycotting, and hurting their potential sales toward deadlock until they have made a consistent long term effort to maintaining this game.
even if the bot video gave us pain, it actually positive thing. now we know we have like 1000 aim bot account out there. this is considerably much easier to deal with. and it mean, even if it easy to buy stolen steam account or make new one, it is an easier treadmill work. tf2 don't have cheating industry like CS, you only got bot hoster loser and hobbyist cheat maker devs.
that being said, if we get quick play back. that will be a bigger blow to the bot than anything. #BringBackQuickplay
Still a bot connected to a server I played yesterday. A ban wave is cool and all, but the "war" is far from over
We do need to keep pushing, thankfully there are effort being put in place and there are proof with cheaters and new bot hoster accounts getting banned rather swiftly
As much as you don't want any credit, you really did wake up the community and lit a fire under everyone's butt! Thank you Zesty.
I'm pretty sure he's just being humble. When you understand that you have a fraction of that kind of influence, it's really easy to fall into grandiose narcissism.
I know it copium but I hope we have more "doing a security check" stuff. It doesn't have to be weekly, but gotta be more then once in a blue moon situation.
THE JANITOR IS BACK!
It's funny that you always say that other popular youtubers would get a lot more viewers on their streams... Well, ShorK is streaming as of right now and he has 89 viewers only. Guess your community is much more active!
Even if it is true that this is a sustainable solution in the works for over two years, the entire situation has still been completely unacceptable
1. two years is not five years, so that's a full three years where Valve knew it was needed, but wasn't working on it.
2. Even when they _were_ working on it, they said absolutely nothing, even though they knew the playerbase was at the boiling point.
I see your point, but also if Valve were to make their anti-cheat solution public, the bot hosters would quickly figure out what it is and find a way around it.
@@Delta225 Would they? If Valve just said, that they are working on banning bots, what bot hosters would do about it?
@@BNBartemmove their inventories outside their main acc.
More accounts
@@BNBartem
@@Delta225 That's not what I mean. They wouldn't have to mention any technical details at all. All they would've needed to do is, at _any_ point in the past _two years_ , say "we're actively working on a solution. We can't say anything about it, but it'll probably take a couple of years". And then _occasionally_ a status update. Y'know, the kind of thing that is completely standard, expected practice for a company.
10:26 this comment by Goody is peak "new tf2 player who doesn't know anything about valve". VALVE never communicates about this kikd of stuff. Or anything else really. They could be adding teh finishing touches to a newly updated VAC and we'll never know
WE AGREE!!!!!
Catface
Just in time for a Summer Update. Lets spend 200 dllrs on cases and have further development be put on hold for another 2 years
So if Valve has been working on this for two years why did they make the whole treadmill work argument?
I have a feeling this anti-bot system was intended for CS2 and wouldn't be surprised if TF2 is now being used as testing grounds for it. I know that's a hugely cynical take but it's a hypothetical I can't help but bring up. Not even out of malice against Valve.
I wonder how things would've been if TF2 never went F2P. Maybe dead because people would've hated having microtransactions in a paid title. Even though it already was that in the past, and newer games already are paid but full of microtransactions because of it.
Or maybe it remaining paid would've prevented this bullshit.
Having tf2 remain full price would kill the game. But if they made it 1$-5$ that would probably stop the bot crisis in its tracks
36:27 Craziest Freudian slip I've ever seen.
As someone who has played competetive Counter Strike for close to a decade about a decade ago, I hate ESports, for 4 reasons:
1: Every game being made, is now made to be fully optimized to be the next big ESports. Casual games are very far and few between.
2: Everyone is sweating really fucking hard because now being exceptionally good at video games can be a genuine way to bring food on the table. Casual players are very far and few between.
3: Match Making replaced server browsers and the community inside of games have ceased to exist leading to massive amount of toxicity because no one can relate to one another or get to become friends, I met most of my friends in CSCZ, CSS, TFC and TF2 about a decade ago.
4: Before ESports, competitive gaming was already super sweaty, we were trying to be the best and would try to win no matter what, but the community itself outside of matches was a lot more chill, before and after matches, we all were friends, now, everyone fucking hates eachother, ESports not only ruined casual gaming, but also ruined competitive gaming too.
As someone who has played competitive Counter Strike for close to a decade about a decade ago, I hate how me and my friends are partially responsible for the shit show we have today, I have good memories, but was it worth it? I don't know, I'm not so sure. I guess the real culprit is money, money always ruin everything, but aat first I was excited, we were recognised for what we were doing, but when I wanted to relax, I played TFC, then TF2, and it was great, I miss that, now to relax, I have to play a single player game with cheats... it's really not the same.
The potted plant decided it's to time to get on the treadmill for that ripped summer bod.
Pog.
Now reddit and Tf2 RUclipsrs have the permission to make "Unbox 50 Summer Case Videos".
We are so back, for 2 weeks until the bots come back abd Valve has left with a giant sack that has a doller sign printed on its sign.
Wave complete but they'll be back, head to an upgrade station.
The guy who donated those 5$ and said he got banned in TF2 also mentioned that he rage cheated
This could mean that this system does bare minimum and only detects the most blatant cheats
Even further reasoning to not let your guard down
anticheat/detection improvements are actually so much better than manual banning but ok lol
The debate? Oh, you mean the one between two old 12,000 hour mercenaries whom feel the need to yell at each other about a random mechanic that gives you double damage, right? Or is it the one about the B.A.S.E. Jumper, I can't remember.
pretty sure its who not whom there
It's about the Air Strike, if you know what I mean.
See I KNOW you don't play much tf2 because it's RANDOM TRIPLE DAMAGE WITHOUT FALL-OFF RANGE... Or just have a Kritzkrieg medic.
@@LoneSWarrior i have no clue what you just said, bc i started in late 2021
@zypdd_ playing for 2-3 years and dont realize its triple damage still? bruh
There wasn't tons of bot hosters back in early TF2 because it wasn't as publicly accessible. It's the same reason there wasn't tons of trading bots back in early TF2 and people used to trade on servers.
1:09:00 isn't that the same guy from shounic's "I do what AI tells me" video?
Shounic is a bot hoster?🤔
@@FrancisL4D No
@@FrancisL4D i can see reading comprehension isn't your forte.
the cheating bots are actually a huge deal and valve kicking then automatically would be the equivalent of releasing half life for anti-cheats. specially if it runs server sided.
but atleast the one hard working mantainer is doing a fantastic job i guess, valve refuses to give the minimum ammount of communication.
I'm tempted to reinstall
im just gonna stick with tf2c since base tf2 still has so much bloated junk like ugly cosmetics and stupid unlocks
@@sal-1337 let me introduce you:
nohat mod and dx 81..... disable all cosmetics and disables all weapon skins....
just in time for me to justify spending a small fortune on unboxing the new slop, happy the guy working at valve was doing his job everybody!
10:10 it is a reaction on fixtf2 though. Just because Valve made a system and sat on it for 2 years doesn't mean they would have released it at all unless they had to.
I was finally able to complete all my contracts and get the saxton after 3 years.
It didnt ban cheaters. There is still mass of them that need to be permabanned.
I love when Valve cooks
portal desk job
dota underlords
half life but only in vr
deadlock
deleting csgo
yeah im sure loving what theyve cooked up this last decade
Timestamps to help navigate
0:00 Starting soon
1:11 Music to bide
2:55 Zesty is here
5:17 Zestycam On, Ban Wave Recap
6:53 Player Data
Hope it helps.
37:26 "uncle dane showed his wrangler in the closet" XD
We win guys ? ... We should stop? NO WE MUST STILL FIGHTING THIS GUYS THEY ARE GOING TO BACK FOR SURE, maybe we got a week or days to enjoy tf2
idle bots and manual bann of a cheaters and aim bots is just crazy and prolly not sustainable. There needs to be permanent solution of VAC or easy anticheat update.
Banning the bots is fine and shows that valve has a modicum of care, which is fine and should be seen as a good thing, but then matchmaking is still a terrible system, competitive was still a mistake, the nerfs were still a mistake, the system itself still facilitates bots and the game will still be vulnerable to them the next time valve gets lazy and the cycle of hating on valve starts all over again. What can people do to make TF2 future proof against bots? I don't know. You can't JUST beg valve to bring quickplay back or revert the last 2 updates...
I still found twenty cheaters today.
What if you are afk for like 12 hours then it gives you a strike or sum
Just stop the drop system if guy idle for 12 hours
first of all why second of all theres a very easy work around of pressing a button every 11 hours
You can't even be idle for that long in a single server, You get autokicked after 7 hours on a server even if you move And if u made your own the server it just shuts down.
[insert the time that zesty talk about fortnite for like 5 sec] they even cheat in Roblox of all thing so cheaters from fortnite don't suprise me
this isnt fortnite
WE AGREE!!!!!
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cute pfp
For the People that asked that;
*"Why didn't Valve told Us that they were doing a Ban Wave"*
Well, the answer is actually quite Obvious, ban waves, usually come unexpected. They meant to surprise and catch the Banned ones Off Guard. Telling the Community, would also tell the Cheaters and Bot Hosters, which takes away the Element of Surprise.
And it would give them less time to prepare for that Said, Ban wave.
We need Quickplay again. Then TF2 will be perfect. Don't buy anything from their shops until those changes are made. And screw the cheaters who lost their accounts; they knew this would eventually happen. Some flew too close to the sun and fell with regret.
As in Quickply instead of Casual system? That's no-go, having some bland servers is great for anybody, as you can try out the shit in the intended enviroment. Having Quickplay as another option would be great, though
@littlehorn0063 Oh of course an option is fine. Like you have casual and quickplay as menu choses, pretty standard menu system that could been done from the beginning at 2016. If you search pre 2016, you will see that the devs could of done that instead no quickplay.
33:03 Love it.
I'll keep playing tf2 classic for now
based
Valve finally decided to jump on the treadmill and lose weight
Bald zesty would look like buff Doug Walker
Is his strange mini gun minimal wear?
Bald zesty would look like buff Doug Walker
Its a surprise to be sure but a welcome one.
Finally i can test my skill issue on casual
I can confirm that casual (On 2fort atleast) is all good from what I've seen. (Speaking of, I'm gonna play again)
20:58
Shame, I missed this one due to being 1500m above sea level
There are still a few bots here and there but there rare for now
First
The janitor got a raise.
EU servers in my experience have been mostly fine for the last two years.
True
EU servers in my experience have been bot infested for the last two years
@@alexalcalaortiz368 not to the same degree as NA ones.
Swedish servers were 100% bot free until smissmas 2022 happend.
I'm gonna say this once again that telling people to boycott the game by not buying anything from the in-game store is literally impossible. Yes, some may do it but others will still going to buy them either way, since that's their choice and their own wallet. So yeah, you have to be delusional for even saying that
What else could be done? Not telling people to boycott the game?
Noone asks that every single player should stop paying for stuff ingame. It's impossible i agree, but people that may listen, could make a difference by not paying for a terrible service. It makes more impact on a game and maybe Valve, than a petition. As many people when petition was anounced said "What do i lose from trying?" why not try to not spend money on a game and ask another players to do the same? What do you lose form trying?
L take and defeatist attitude
Even just 30% would tank
@@TheZerken i would agree with you if the actual people spending on the in game shop weren't a literal drop in the bucket, compared to basically anyone with a single functioning braincell who's using 3rd parties and getting stuff cheaper. even boycotting the new case wouldn't do much, as the main reasons it would get unboxed is new unusuals, but the new limited pool would stay locked to the new case even when the update ends, making new hats with new effects unboxable later too, just at lower odds. the big spenders would just buy older cases and keys from 3rd parties anyways for forever unusuals, as unlike in cs, we have tradeable keys. my honest opinion until today was either do in person protests, or hope to gaben himself that the few people working on the game start doing their job, and by the looks of it he has been, lets just pray he keeps it up. who know, with this and as time passes, maybe they decide to hire another intern, or full-time employees crazy enough to do tf2 full time and fix everything else. but, for now, i am contempt. my favorite game gets to be enjoyed by the people for another while to come.
#JusticeForSeanEpik
bro stop spamming over a nobody, its sad
@@Skufnut_ just a joke lol
@@2010FordTerritory is it? I saw you spamming that during the stream, but alright. Who is seanEpik?
@@Skufnut_ Random youtuber with like 6 subs that I met. Lol
@@2010FordTerritory alright you pass the vibe check
I would push back against the idea that Valve bans cheaters, I have been blatantly cheating in casual matchmaking for about a month now, and my profile is still not banned.
Куs ❤
@@mjm5899 Don't hate the player, hate the game!
@@Viper-lq5xo woah woah woah, cool it with the transphobic remarks!
We don't care
@@ralphoramaHow is that transphobic bro. He only told you to die and nothing else
Damn his take on competitive players is as dumb as trying to come to terms with a guy wearing a maga hat.
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