I agree with most of what you say. Run downs are 3 player attacks after the rundown is initiated from a throw. Other players should only filter to the bases as backups. Too many people causes confusion. Follow your throw and replace the person you threw it to. Simple and direct. The best rundown is a rundown with an initiation throw to start the rundown and 1 more throw to finish it.
Love it! #1 for sure...only thing I see that I like to do is to have the 1st baseman sprint in and relieve the pitcher at the plate if/when he is involved in the rundown.
Nice video content! Apologies for the intrusion, I would love your initial thoughts. Have you considered - Rozardner Sport Pick Reality (should be on google have a look)? It is a good one off guide for baseball betting system minus the hard work. Ive heard some unbelievable things about it and my GF after many years got great results with it.
The only thing I would change about the situation is that I would never drive the runner to advance. I would give up the ball as soon as two conditions were met: 1) the runner is advancing at full speed and 2) my middle infielder became ready to accept the throw. You don't want the distance between the runner and the middle infielder to be so small that a bad throw could allow the runner to slip past the middle infielder. Giving the ball up early allows the middle infielder the time and distance to adjust for a bad throw before the runner is on him. At that point, the middle infielder can either apply the tag or drive the runner toward the previous base and force him to commit to the retreat. Then I teach him to throw back to the player covering first base and make the put out with the runner retreating. This way, a bad throw only allows the runner to return to his previously occupied base and not advance.
I live in a country where baseball is not a major sport (Australia), so I really enjoyed this video, as it gave me a better understanding of the game. It was amazing with the pick-off from third to see all of the infielders plus catchers along the third base line. #baseballcoaching
After years of coaching and then some calling play-by-play, this presentation is one of the best, but since baseball is often six of one, half-dozen of another, let me add a few points for consideration. Even though in theory the chasing fielder would pursue on his throwing hand side (with the potential receptionist aligning for a clear throwing lane on that same side), I had all defenders work the inside of the base paths, regardless of the bases involved or the throwing hand; this gives defenders in possession of the ball a clear throw to other bases/areas should there be additional base runners. Obviously, if there is only one base runner in play, it wouldn't matter as much, but in order to eliminate one more decision, stay to the inside. Another alternative is to eliminate the "ball" call, which can alert the base runner (if he's not looking at the chasing infielder) as to when the chasing fielder is throwing. Instead, I've had good success with the receiving fielder holding a position (if able) about 10 feet up the line from the base to avoid that "slip past" mentioned in a previous comment, or even on a slow creeping up the line for momentum, and with receptionist giving the signal (not verbally) that he wants the ball when he bolts ahead. The receptionist races ahead when he believes he can catch the pickled base runner, given the feed is proper. The receptionist, once on the move, should not slow down, but must learn to receive on the fly, which is entirely possible, and certainly, the better the feed--at eye level for ease of reception and return to tracking the base runner--takes some practice, and at first, the receptionist will overrun the base runner as he figures out the timing. For this reason, the chasing fielder should not fake throws, as warned against in the video, and as well, the instruction to chase the base runner hard but under control is just as important, as executing the hard chase without faking makes it much easier for the receptionist to decide on when to make his forward move, as he will know his ability to chase and tag much better than any teammate deciding for him. Employing these methods has enabled receptionists to "run down" base runners who have better foot speed, which is pretty much in line with the instructional video. The challenge to give your players is that a proper rundown should require only one throw. I've found players love this "one throw" challenge, and the first time an obviously slower fielder is able to catch and tag an obviously faster base runner because of the method, the team is sold on it and will strive for successful execution. The other point commented upon was a preference to run a base runner "back," which is sound advice, in my opinion, but depending upon the level you are coaching, may be a rare circumstance, and can add a throw/reception, which translates into more chance for error. Still, there's a good argument for it and I'd like to read more specifics on how to coach it. Anyway, just adding a few cents to a great instructional video. And BTW, along with the methods presented in the video, I've coached my additional/alternate methods to players down to 13-year-olds and they handled it quite well, just for reference. Thanks, Trent, for the awesome presentation!
It also has to emphasize that, as soon as you throw the ball, turn out of the baseline and *_then_* follow your throw to the next base. Throw, turn, *_then_* follow. Runners are taught to look for opportunities to "collide" with fielders. It's obstruction if a fielder, without possession of the ball, hinders a runner.
I don't think you should rely on verbal communication as to *_when_* the ball is to be thrown. Instead, the fielder with the ball should throw the ball whenever he thinks it is at an optimal time, based primarily on the distance between the runner and the receiving fielder - i.e. don't throw too early or too late. You have to give the receiving fielder time to catch the ball without the runner getting so close to him that he is either screened or has to make an _immediate_ tag. The distance between the runner and the receiving fielder is the *_primary_* cue as to when it's time to throw he ball.
+David Emerling - That is the beauty of coaching. You get to modify things based on what you feel works best. We use commands and have not botched a rundown in a long....long time. To me the key is practicing what ever method you teach. Most don't...and thus it gets messed up when you need it the most.
This is just my opinion, but even in this video, when the lead throw runs past the runner after the throw, you end up with players running into each other. The way that I have always taught and seen this ran, the lead throw peels off and comes back to back up next throw. But at the same time as mentioned, the throw needs to be taught as well. I like how you showed the different scenarios for the run down play.
He covers the easiest rundown - that which has the runner close to the ball at the back base. It is not a good idea to call "ball" in all situations. Different initial strategies must be used if the runner is closer to the advanced base or even in the middle of two bases. The strategy employed will also depend on where the ball is when the runner gets caught. This is one scenario of at least 9.
Ive watched alot of videos on run downs tonight and this one by far is the best GREAT JOB!
Def teaching this to my team
I agree with most of what you say. Run downs are 3 player attacks after the rundown is initiated from a throw. Other players should only filter to the bases as backups. Too many people causes confusion. Follow your throw and replace the person you threw it to. Simple and direct. The best rundown is a rundown with an initiation throw to start the rundown and 1 more throw to finish it.
Love it! #1 for sure...only thing I see that I like to do is to have the 1st baseman sprint in and relieve the pitcher at the plate if/when he is involved in the rundown.
Nice video content! Apologies for the intrusion, I would love your initial thoughts. Have you considered - Rozardner Sport Pick Reality (should be on google have a look)? It is a good one off guide for baseball betting system minus the hard work. Ive heard some unbelievable things about it and my GF after many years got great results with it.
The only thing I would change about the situation is that I would never drive the runner to advance. I would give up the ball as soon as two conditions were met: 1) the runner is advancing at full speed and 2) my middle infielder became ready to accept the throw. You don't want the distance between the runner and the middle infielder to be so small that a bad throw could allow the runner to slip past the middle infielder. Giving the ball up early allows the middle infielder the time and distance to adjust for a bad throw before the runner is on him. At that point, the middle infielder can either apply the tag or drive the runner toward the previous base and force him to commit to the retreat. Then I teach him to throw back to the player covering first base and make the put out with the runner retreating. This way, a bad throw only allows the runner to return to his previously occupied base and not advance.
I live in a country where baseball is not a major sport (Australia), so I really enjoyed this video, as it gave me a better understanding of the game. It was amazing with the pick-off from third to see all of the infielders plus catchers along the third base line. #baseballcoaching
Good stuff. So important to get the runner moving and also have vthe receiver of the throw moving also. Goal is one throw out every time.
After years of coaching and then some calling play-by-play, this presentation is one of the best, but since baseball is often six of one, half-dozen of another, let me add a few points for consideration. Even though in theory the chasing fielder would pursue on his throwing hand side (with the potential receptionist aligning for a clear throwing lane on that same side), I had all defenders work the inside of the base paths, regardless of the bases involved or the throwing hand; this gives defenders in possession of the ball a clear throw to other bases/areas should there be additional base runners. Obviously, if there is only one base runner in play, it wouldn't matter as much, but in order to eliminate one more decision, stay to the inside. Another alternative is to eliminate the "ball" call, which can alert the base runner (if he's not looking at the chasing infielder) as to when the chasing fielder is throwing. Instead, I've had good success with the receiving fielder holding a position (if able) about 10 feet up the line from the base to avoid that "slip past" mentioned in a previous comment, or even on a slow creeping up the line for momentum, and with receptionist giving the signal (not verbally) that he wants the ball when he bolts ahead. The receptionist races ahead when he believes he can catch the pickled base runner, given the feed is proper. The receptionist, once on the move, should not slow down, but must learn to receive on the fly, which is entirely possible, and certainly, the better the feed--at eye level for ease of reception and return to tracking the base runner--takes some practice, and at first, the receptionist will overrun the base runner as he figures out the timing. For this reason, the chasing fielder should not fake throws, as warned against in the video, and as well, the instruction to chase the base runner hard but under control is just as important, as executing the hard chase without faking makes it much easier for the receptionist to decide on when to make his forward move, as he will know his ability to chase and tag much better than any teammate deciding for him. Employing these methods has enabled receptionists to "run down" base runners who have better foot speed, which is pretty much in line with the instructional video. The challenge to give your players is that a proper rundown should require only one throw. I've found players love this "one throw" challenge, and the first time an obviously slower fielder is able to catch and tag an obviously faster base runner because of the method, the team is sold on it and will strive for successful execution. The other point commented upon was a preference to run a base runner "back," which is sound advice, in my opinion, but depending upon the level you are coaching, may be a rare circumstance, and can add a throw/reception, which translates into more chance for error. Still, there's a good argument for it and I'd like to read more specifics on how to coach it. Anyway, just adding a few cents to a great instructional video. And BTW, along with the methods presented in the video, I've coached my additional/alternate methods to players down to 13-year-olds and they handled it quite well, just for reference. Thanks, Trent, for the awesome presentation!
It also has to emphasize that, as soon as you throw the ball, turn out of the baseline and *_then_* follow your throw to the next base. Throw, turn, *_then_* follow. Runners are taught to look for opportunities to "collide" with fielders. It's obstruction if a fielder, without possession of the ball, hinders a runner.
+David Emerling - Remember....This is a small clip from the DVD...not the entire teaching sequence.
I don't think you should rely on verbal communication as to *_when_* the ball is to be thrown. Instead, the fielder with the ball should throw the ball whenever he thinks it is at an optimal time, based primarily on the distance between the runner and the receiving fielder - i.e. don't throw too early or too late. You have to give the receiving fielder time to catch the ball without the runner getting so close to him that he is either screened or has to make an _immediate_ tag. The distance between the runner and the receiving fielder is the *_primary_* cue as to when it's time to throw he ball.
+David Emerling - That is the beauty of coaching. You get to modify things based on what you feel works best. We use commands and have not botched a rundown in a long....long time. To me the key is practicing what ever method you teach. Most don't...and thus it gets messed up when you need it the most.
This is just my opinion, but even in this video, when the lead throw runs past the runner after the throw, you end up with players running into each other. The way that I have always taught and seen this ran, the lead throw peels off and comes back to back up next throw. But at the same time as mentioned, the throw needs to be taught as well.
I like how you showed the different scenarios for the run down play.
Great video
Good job, thanks a lot.
He covers the easiest rundown - that which has the runner close to the ball at the back base. It is not a good idea to call "ball" in all situations. Different initial strategies must be used if the runner is closer to the advanced base or even in the middle of two bases. The strategy employed will also depend on where the ball
is when the runner gets caught. This is one scenario of at least 9.
so here's how you do a run down so you run with the ball out of the glove and hold as long as you can so you can tag the runny
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