If nj signed a professional contract, then it is binding by law. If nj want to leave Ador, they should pay off that contract. This is business, and nj are NOT above the law.
@@sheabutterflythey are not paying “an investment” they are paying for breaking the contract without proving that hybe/ador actually breached the contract, if by that logic then anyone can break a contract and disrespect the company that made just because they paid back their “investment”
@@sheabutterflyearning income was part of getting hired as a contract worker, but paying a termination fee is a completely different thing because you pay for the lost income the remaining time you had promised to work for them and you're breaking that promise and compensate the financial loss.
You CANNOT just leave, you can't. It's a legal contract. You can't just say "Oh, I'm unhappy so the contract is nullified." You cannot say, "Oh this contract no longer let's me have everything I want so it's no longer a legal contract." Nope, doesn't work that way NewJeans and Min Heejin. Hell not even in other countries can you do that.
Young little girls that don't understand anything legal. Mhj is also clueless. They should just go back to being normal teenagers and quit the industry. They are too naive.
they said multiple times that ADOR was not respecting the terms of the contract in the first place but you and people like you still don't want to listen to women/workers that report abuse and mistreatment, believing that the stronger part of this situation, the one with all the money and the power, is the innocent one. And you don't believe they had legal help from specialists? Do you honestly think they (and their families) are that clueless about the reality of their contract?
@@TeoJva if they are so confident on their stand, then prove to the court. All the pity-grabbing via presscon and statements are pointless. WALK THE TALK
Expected. I don't know how NewJeans and Min Hee Jin thought they could terminate their contract without paying the penalty fees especially without strong enough or concrete evidence of break of contractual terms
Court of public opinion and they are counting on ador to be tired of the drama and let them go without consequences bc they think nj with cute girly face will win pity.
They wanted adore to make the 1st call so they can appear that they are the one being mistreated thus gaining sampthy from the public and making adore look bad
They do not owe they make only profit. Ador breeched the contract and Newjeans wrote official letter asking fir correction of breech which Ador did not correct. They officially anounced their termination after the 14 day grace required by the contract.
@@ijustlearnhowtochange Personally I'm pretty curious about it. Do most Koreans really support newjeans' decision and is Ador the bad guy? I think the reason international fans are not happy is because we are tired from the news haha. Also it seems there is a bit of emotional manipulation and bratty actions
how to terminate contract legally: use the court ruling.. if new jeans is professional, they should do the legal way by using the laws, show the proof in the court..
@@classicmercy955if they had evidence they would be the 1st one to file the law suit. But they don't have anything. Same with MHJ she complained with many things but there is no evidence from her side
@@seemats3493exactly its a basic common sense. They don’t have any evidences otherwise they would have already filed for lawsuits as they seems bold and daring. But they are just wasting time with media play, crying in front of the camera, he did she did and bringing Ignoring incident to NA. Its so obvious they only want MHJ, mistreatment issue is just an excuse to leave with MHJ.
It's about time. Kpop industry is affected with this emotional argument from NJ. They should cut their ties with MHJ and move on with their career with Ador. Everything can be settled in a proper way. They should start by being humble and respectful.
They've been too much shamanised... The girls & their families looks completely ADDICTED to MHJ!! Beware of this new drug!! 😆 I'm joking but the situation is serious for all kpop industry... I can't believe a bunch of girls with their witch could harm so much HYBE...
Who’s gonna invest in them again? They clearly have no professional sense of duty. Would you? Especially seeing what they are doing in real-time??????????
@@19astromahima nobody would hire someone who will potentially destroy a company, they are a liability at this point 😞. I hope next time they would approach things professionally and not by pure illogical emotions.
@@min3089 true no one will be that idiot. I just said whatever they opt for in the future I just hope they understand whom to seek guidance from. That lady is good for nothing stupid who not only ruined herself but destroyed these girls too and they are stupid enough as well to be manipulated at this level.
By that logic Ador should bring back MHJ as CEO since they had a contract. But they won't because as was pointed out they are hypocrites. I hope NewJeans wins this, its possible the termination clause is too vague for the courts force NewJeans back.
New jeans already exceeded their profits to ador hybe so its no problem if hybe let them go but because hybe will lost their most popular group who earned so much or half earnings of hybe they cannot let go of new jeans😅in legal process, the contract between A and B has loopholes there is possibility that new jeans can get away from hybe if there is breach of trust in contract but if hybe wanted new jeans to stay hybe will do anything by any legal means to threaten nj to stay or rather destroyed them…
only applicable if the investment wasn't paid yet & them wanting to stop the schedules but NJ still going to fulfill the schedules so there's no penalty for them to pay.
@@sheabutterfly They won't pay if they will not terminate their contract with ADOR but the moment they stop working with ADOR and choose to go work with MHJ and sign contract with another Agency then they have to pay to terminate their contract with ADOR which MHJ talk with her underlings in the exposed Kakao chat with them. And NJ have not yet paid their debt with Ador after debuting but they received their million dollar salary.
@sheabutterfly NewJeans' contract is set for 7 years, regardless of the profits they have helped ADOR generate the past 2-3 years. The investment is structured for 7 years, so the potential profits for the next 4-5 years also need to be taken into account. They can't simply leave without considering the earnings for that period. If they believe ADOR has breached the contract and are unwilling to pay, they must file a lawsuit against ADOR and gather strong evidence for the court. If they believe HYBE interfered, they will need to file a separate lawsuit against HYBE with solid evidence. ADOR and HYBE are two separate entities. They can't terminate the contract based on verbal claims and walk away.
The court had better make the right decision so as not to endanger the entire Korean music industry because of 5 immature kids led by their "cockroach mom!!!"
The court does not have to make a decision, but an assessment. It is not this court that has to decide whether the contract is valid or not. The court only has to inform the parties whether the contract is still valid, according to the company regulations. There is a subtle difference.
@@bqantoNope, no difference dear! It’s either a legal contract or it’s not! There’s no grey area or subtle nuances! That’s business. You cannot just declare you’re breaking your contract because there was a change in the management of your company, ESPECIALLY where there’s criminal activity involved…or in the least, a serious breach of trust! It’s ALL coming out…that manipulative veil has been lifted bit by bit and that woman’s going down; because of those girls’ st^pid decisions - despite the fact that this ‘mother’ said, in her own words, that she can’t stand those girls! Where is their self esteem? Where the hell are their parents??? After the way she talks / thinks about their children?! Shame on them for not properly guiding their children, instead of following, what they think is going to be, a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow..
They better be ready. Ador will not let them go so easily. If they want to leave, and terminate the contract without paying penalties, they have to *prove* Ador breached the contract or mistreated them. The Disptach article is not going to help them becuase it seems to be true that the girls, and their parents were working with MHJ to take Ador and bring down Hybe
At this point, i will never understand if there are people who will still support newjeans on their recent actions. If fans truly care about them, they wouldn't let the girls break the law. They are not above the law. They cannot just declare they do not want anything to do with the contracts they signed themselves just because. They have to go through proper legal proceedings. I used to sympathise with them, but i have to admit their recent action was unprofessional. I was expecting them to go to court when they gave an ultimatum. But it made me question, if they really have a strong case, why didn't they file a lawsuit first. They had all the time to talk about their feelings before the media. Why didn't they go to court directly just like what Loona did. I feel bad for the girls but this is just ridiculous I'm tired of it. I just don't care anymore at this point.
Why do they need to go to court when they follow the procedure on how to terminate a contract? They gave a 14 day grace perior which is standard before terminating and new ador just ignore them proving that they don't care about the members. They didn't run from existing contracts and willing to finished it. There's nothing for them to go to court unless ador blackmails them or force them to stay.
@@sheabutterfly but the question is, which clause on their contract was breached by Ador? We cannot say for sure since it was confidential but the one thing that sticks out is they wanted to reinstate MHJ as CEO. Is it specifically sated on their contract that MHJ should be the CEO? They cannot just demand something that is not on their contract and it's not their job to decide who to appoint as CEO, it's the Board. And let's say I am a member of the board and I invested money on the Company, why would I appoint someone I don't trust. I think the company also claimed that some of their demands are beyond their capability. So in the end, it is up to the court to decide if the contract is really valid or not.
@@sheabutterfly but I think new jeans can still work in other company though. I have a feeling the company can not stop them from working elsewhere since it can affect their livelihood. But they have to forfeit the Newjeans brand name, their current advertisements, songs, etc since it is the property of Ador. And if in unfortunate circumstances that the court will decide against them, meaning their contract with Ador is valid, they have to unfortunately pay the price. So they really need to have a strong defence here.
If newjeans felt wrong and were not happy with contract , they should have proceeded with legal lawsuits and whatever.Such uneducated and irrational actions are going to come back to them. They ruined their own livess
If they would've had proves, they would've sued the day after their CEO was fired. Instead of that, they are seeking for the public opinion support. They want people to support them and hate ADOR and HYBE, because... 1. they are unhappy, 2.they feel threatened 3. they feel unprotected 4. they don't have anymore joy to make music as they did 5.they don't work good with another director 6. they are mistreated 7. they are bullied/ignored 8. 9.... And all that hate will damage HYBE/ADOR image and maybe a judge will rule against ADOR's request for legal fees. Sometimes in Korea judges are aware about the public opinion, and that's making them to rule according with that. From the very beginning, starting with the first press conference, this case was build up on impressing and manipulating the public opinion.
They should have brought it to corporate FIRST. And asked for a proper investigation. Sadly, it looks like they made a complaint, but it was found to be not in their favor, so they didn't like it. So they threw a tantrum. That is not how you handle a professional contract, which only shows how HORRIBLY MHJ managed them....because a HEALTHY relationship between her and the girls, would have resulted in professional behaviors, following protocol that protects both parties!!!!!!!!!
I really liked NJ but what they are doing now is deeply annoying. They want to end a contract without paying for it when they leave it one sided. First in normal Live you can‘t end any contract just so why you want it that is why a contract has been concluded! If you want to end the contract there are rules. NJ seemed to be so arrogant, that those rules don‘t relate to them and their parents are desillusional too! In 3 years they get a lot more than any other group and then talking about breach of contract while bullied and not getting what they want but going the next day to Japan on schedules that ADOR has arranged and paid for, find the mistake in it all! I really hope the court shows them that they are wrong! For me personally I quit with them, too much is too much…
There's nothing for them to pay coz they have returned the investment plus profit and they are also not running away from schedules and brand contracts that were already signed. They were only to pay penalty if NJ cancels the schedules & brand contracts but they didn't so nothing for them to pay. Those contract already exist on mhj's time. Hybe & new ador has nothing planned or prepared for NJ and they didn't signed anything new since mhj went to public. So those schedules weren't prepared by new Ador. They are all existing contract.
Actually, no, they haven't. Every dime paid for everything was covered by ADOR since befor their debut. Costing MULTIPLE MILLIONS which have only partially been realized within the last 18 months. Sadly, they, if they had just remained quiet and focused on themselves, would have probably only lost MHJ (who never cared about them anyway) and would be looking at an AMAZING future.@sheabutterfly
@@sheabutterfly You don't know what you're saying NJ contract with ADOR is for 7 years they have 5 more years to fulfill their contract. So ergo they are breaking the contract agreement and in order to terminate their contract they have to pay for contract termination, MHJ knew it and have been talking about it with her underlings and they are seeking a way to avoid paying contract penalty, MHJ also know how much they are going to pay to terminate NJ contract with Ador/Hybe. And NJ are planning to stop working with Ador next year so YES they are breaking their contract agreement with Ador/Hybe.
@@virgie6983 they are artist in contract not slaves. If a company can terminate an artist rightaway for whatever reason I guess artist also have the right to terminate if they think their agreement is no longer meet. They have been vocal of their desire to bring back mhj since she is the brain behind new jeans. The new management aren't infavor with them and ignores them. How are you going to work on that environment? Are you just gonna wait that they locked you on the basement and mistreats you? They don't trust each other how do you think they will work? They are not a working robot that would just wait what the company will do to them. Their privacy and rights have been breach. If you are working on that company are you just gonna wait to be mistreated or do something to break your bond?
I'm sure they would be well aware by now of the potential consequences to the whole industry but they obviously don't care about any other artists, just themselves and fawning obsessively over that woman who will abandon them as soon as they are no longer useful to her. Foolishness to the max and a lost cause it appears.
I actually wonder if they DO know. MHJ created an isolated bubble that they're still in and bunnies hype them up so much that New Jeans may feel like heroines because that's the majority of what they see.
I'm sure this will be watched both inside and outside the entertainment industry, as the decision will no doubt affect Korean contract law as a whole. If the courts do the wrong thing, it could set an irreversible precedent.
As far as I am concerned, this company needs to be put on notice as they have abused the power of the employer to their employees / artists There is good that can come out of this by NJ termination of their contract = Hybe & Ador conducting themselves in a more professional manner....God Willing! 🤞
@@petsok3130 both MHJ and NJ can't even sue them of anything evil as what you are saying bcos if these girls are indeed abused then there's a cause for breach. The reason why they're doing these drama and HYBE asking the court to prove their innocence bcos NJ has been treated good and they just want to leave without paying fees.
I don’t want to pay my mortgage anymore, i hereby terminate the contract and don’t need to pay anymore ❤😂 yay! I have freedom now to live in that house and do anything. Who cares and contract is not a big deal anyway.
Even if, A big IF, NJ wins for whatever reason, so do you think anybody would trust them anymore? Trust enough to make a contract with them? When they can just say, oh we don't wanna be in this exclusive contract so we're out just like that? I don't think so. They're just waving their career goodbye. How can they settle when they themselves don't wanna talk to Ador?
The same argument with hybe, do you think people will trust hybe? Never again, trainees should not sign those vampiric contracts that destroy artist life.
@minuii But they know what they are signing on when they signed with Ador, with MHJ. And where is she now? Probably creating her own company because she failed to acquire Ador (her initial plot). This was about MHJ and Hybe, and yet, the girls got caught up in the middle (well, MHJ put them as shields). It's so sad, because these girls have potentials. Both sides need to talk it out to court, settle it once and for all.
@@minuiibut hybe is a big cooperation with "innocent idol who don't hold a say in this".fans will definitely support hybe artists ie indirectly supporting hybe....nj on the other hand are individuals who would be easy to blame and point fingers at
JYJ living under hot money with CJENM and SM still running good because at the end of the case just like another battles, we talk about money 💵. Feels sorry for the girls. I wish they'd have more information from the outsider about the complete issues with what happened on JYJ lawsuit, including Shinhwa and EXO-CBX. At least, I wish the girls be able to makes sure that they're not in under control by anoyne, not even MHJ. Be careful, girls. Be wise and strong enough to see who is who around you, girls.
@Ena2010 It's just sad that these girls are thrown in the pit without guidance, and if they are, it all seems wrong. Do they really really know the repercussions of their actions? Yes, they are brave to fight off whatever it is going onwithin Ador and Hybe, but they did it irrationally and not in a legal sense. Hopefully, we'll get a closure all deserve in the end.
Now it is the beginning of a long and exhausting for NJ. Their activities may be put on hold, NJ say they are prepared but the fact that HYBE didn’t immediately attack them is quite respectable they try to negotiate but the battle is going to be bloody for them
In this case iam agreeing with company, you cant just announce you want to leave because you feel unhappy. YOU NEED to READ THE CONTRACT, what a dumb kid.
I don't understand why they are saying Hybe/Ador is not protecting them. Do they not walk around with body guards? Do they not still practice at Hybe and have access to their facilities? Were they cut off from continuing to fulfill their obligations? Do they not get the attention they so desperately seek?
I guess they expected the new CEO to go kick down BeLift's door and drag out that one manager and get her fired or at least shamed for an allegation, that doesn't seem to have even happened.
Excelente!! A esas niñas hay que enseñarles a respetar los contratos!! No quieren nada con Hybe pero aún usan sus guardaespaldas?? Quien entiende!! Veamos qué dicen las leyes allá !!
If NJs intended to begin a new career independent of Ador, that idea is now dead in the water pending a decision on contract validity. This might take years. Meanwhile no one will work with them for fear of legal action by Ador. It's amusing that they will still have to continue activities and contribute to Ador's bottom line.
Honestly feel bad for new ador ceo, imagine just getting a position of ceo and dealing with people like new jeans. And now it’s clear that the company is trying to solve the matter and be less dramatic and avoid conflicts but new jeans just keeps dragging the situation on and on and on. They are clearing exaggerating stuff. Edit: IK SHE ( current ador ceo) IS DOING GREAT. I was just saying it in a casual way..... People took it seriously 😭
Not really. She knew what would be in front of ADORE, and Mama Roach when she accepted the position, and she has HYBE and their team of attorneys at her side. She is actually just being ADOR’s ‘spoke-person’.
She’s been with HYBE since the beginning so she knows what she has to do. Didn’t you see how she handled the audit? Everyone thought she should’ve done better, but she actually did great. You cannot argue with those politicians. You have to let them believe that you’re below them hence the Belift Lab CEO did the same when they questioned him. Hanni thought she gave the greatest performance of her life during the audit but she and the politicians only used each other for public (bunnies/HYBE haters) approval. She claimed she was greatly affected by the mistreatment and cried crocodile tears and yet she constantly posed and smiled at the camera and happily exchange greetings with everyone. She even made the evil smirk when the CEO of Ador was talking. And worse, she and their leader went live and talked about how she put on a good show in the audit! Even laughing about how she cried! For everyone to watch! smh
They can say all they want but if they haven't legally taken any steps to leave their contract, then what the heck are they doing?! They say they have evidence, so fine - go to court and present your evidence and legally leave the company At this time, the contract is still legally valid and the court will confirm. The girls can stay and work, or leave and pay. So exhausted with them, I just want them gone. They really have ended their careers, other agencies won't want them after all this drama and nonsence.
We’ve been waiting. Haven’t we? I still feel bad for the 5 brats who have been led to the mess. Now I just hope the parents step up and bring them to real world. They must realise the 0.1% of chance they still have to bring things to workout.
Not really. She knew what would be in front of ADORE, and Mama Roach when she accepted the position, and she had HYBE and their team of attornies at her side.
These girls have no legal basis that their company didn’t protect them. Ador has tried time and time again to meet with them and try to resolve their concerns but they have refused every step of the way. In their first press conference they flat out said they will not work with the new CEO…well, that’s not how it works in business - you don’t get to dictate who’s running the company. Ador’s / Hybe’s issues with MHJ have NOTHING to do with NJ’s contracts with them. it’s ludicrous!!!
Minji, Hanni, Danielle, Haerin, and Hyein have earnt millions of dollars of profits for Ador. They are not animals! Do you not understand that slavery is illegal by international law?
ADOR is trying their best to work with the girls and they still aren't budging? These girls unfortunately need a wake up call. I can't imagine they have any career in Korea after this. What company would risk taking them on if they act like this when they don't like something?
These girls themselves understand what they are saying. They also said in a language that we are no longer members of Hybe because we terminated it ourselves. It is just a language. Hybe has no right to interfere in our work. But we are not leaving Hybe and we are using the company's money right now. I mean, I have never seen anything more childish and spoiled than the New Jeans girls. Oh my God, they don't understand what they are saying at all. But until the company took legal and logical action, they quickly stated that we did not violate anything. You spoiled girls, this is illegal and unprofessional. They themselves know that their work is based on a plan and stubbornness. Because they did not go to talk in the first place, they only said illogical things. Now that Hybe has acted legally, they quickly stated again to focus public opinion on themselves again and abuse the feelings of the fans. There are still naive people who support these people. If so, I feel sorry for you. And you know why they are playing the same role of victim again because they know that this lawsuit will go to court against them and in favor of Hybe. Because the court has no feelings to say, "Wow!" Strong and brave girls 😂😂 The doctor checks the documents and this means that they are the work of the naughty girls of NewJeez. They think they are very smart and political, but they are not because they want to be so rebellious that they will leave without compensation and damages and force the people of Hybe to give them their group name and songs for free. They are so shameless that they say all this is slander. I have not seen a more liar than NewJeez in all of K-pop. And when they say that our company employees are the same traitors who were not identified and were still spying on Min Hee Jin, I think Adore has figured it out. Please do not support these girls and Min Hee Jin in the name of being fans. You are only ruining the work of other Hybe groups. The work of these naughty girls and Min Hee Jin has karma. All this slandering of leesarfim, iliit, enhypenbts, and other groups. Please wake up.
This is ADOR doing their ways not to breach the contract. It's like ADOR saying " I'm doing and giving you things. Doing my part just to make this relationship work and not to be blamed when we broke up'
@@KhanaHathaway83Agree. It is not because Ador CEO is good person 😂 How naive... They should follow the law even if they have bad intent. Not like stup1d kpop fans 😂😂😂
Danielle deliberately says newjeans never dies (desperate for the people's support), want to get away without paying, saying that they didn't violate the contract but is it really? They want to work with the people they "like" also still continue being newjeans? Lol they are entitled.
Such a shame. So young, with such bright future ahead of them. Career suicide, walking out on a legally binding contract, no matter what country you live in. Such a shame, they just happened to trust the wrong person. The parents should have also been there to lend guidance.
@@_micinnom😂hahahah... The mysterious investor you mean? .If does, They still cannot going anywhere till the contract terminate legally. If court didn't give any word about this...NJ stuck with ADOR. This case will not solved in short time what I know. It's gonna be looooongggggggggg journey for both side. ADOR...NJ. I wish you good luck.
@maovang4629 isn't it. Poor little things. I really wish NJ think twice before make the press conference about their termination declarations. And now...they can't turn back time. Only luck can help them.
This comment section really shows how little people really understand business and contracts and the entertainment industry. Emotions and contracts/ businesses don't have anything "personal" between the two. Contracts don't have to take Feelings into consideration. Once you've signed on the dotted line, you better uphold your end or take it to court if you can't negotiate a better deal between both parties. Making emotional comments/complaints and statements about the contract publicly, without any attempts at negotiations, are automatic grounds for a lawsuit. The fact that they made this mess public and didn't even sit down with the company is a breach of contract. Why is that so hard to understand? Bosses can change at any time for any reason. The employee/talents in the company don't get to dictate how the owner of the company run their business. That woman screwed up those kids' heads, to the point that they truly don't understand how much they've ruined their reputation and their future music careers. They most likely don't even understand how much trouble that woman is in currently. It's such a shame.
Minji, Hanni, Danielle, Haerin, and Hyein have earnt millions of dollars of profits for Ador. They are not animals! Do you not understand that slavery is illegal? No contract can enforce ongoing labour, regardless of the terms of a contract.
A contract that is legally bind should go through proper preceding to be terminated. If through press conference you can just terminate your exclusive contract then many will follow after this😅
@@annbeck2298 Are you serious? She borrowed the money fron Chairman Bang. Of course she has to pay it back. That loan has nothing to with what's going on. It is a separate issue.
NJ have sadly shot themselves in the foot. Even if they make amends with Ador, there's no way Ador will trust the group now. They might just keep NJ under the contract, but refuse to promote them, and keep them on the backburner. That will be the final nail for NJ in that case, if they're unable to release any new songs or do worldwide promotions, etc. Ador could even hurt NJ by giving all of NJ's music catalogue to ILLIT.
But that would put Ador in breach of contract and give the brats a way to get out. So Ador won't! It remains to be seen if advertisers and their audience are still interested in their music. They could fizzle out.
@@isiseungella4688Agree. Ador will careful. Ador will do as usual until the court decision. No way Ador will sue New Jeans only base of speech evidence. Ador need hard evidence. So Ador only ask the validity of the contract to the court.
Nope. NJ has lots of engagements, activities and endorsements lined up plus the making of their full album said Ador. They’ve been trying to set a meeting with NJ several times but they refused to acknowledge the requests. That’s why NJ had to fly to Japan immediately after their last conference about them terminating their contract to Ador coz they didn’t abandon NJ like what the girls, MHJ and the bunnies are saying. Thay even promoted NJ’s song that’s why it’s No. 35 on the top songs of 2024 announced by the Rolling Stones. Plus they rank 4th or 5th (not sure which) in Japan for 2024 as well. So no, I don’t think Ador would stop supporting NJ since they already invested a great deal in making them Global artists. Their contract ends in 2029, so if NJ stayed in Ador until that time… everything would already been resolved and they would be stupid to not renew their contract by then unless their career is over after this drama.
@@isiseungella4688ador is very smart so they are not one who is going for contract termination. Don't underestimate hybe leaders they made bankruptcy company to multi billion dollar company. Their one big mistake was hiring MHJ. But they will manage themselves. They have all evidence against MHJ
Let's be real, there are many k-pop groups who has experienced suceess in the early stage of their career like Exo and Blackpink, however, both of groups were mistreated by their companies for various reasons. Yet they remained strong, valiant and humble despite their popularity. NJ, on the other side, came from a company that was built on the legacy of BTS, who have worked hard for their success. To be honest, everything handed to them on a silver platter that's why they took everything for granted. They don't care about what they have, that's why they are ready to throw everything away for the sake of MHJ. It doesn't matter they are naive or not, at the end of the day, they participated in their own downfall.
I would believe that during training days, contracts and/or basic business dealings and obligations of idols would have been covered at some point. Thousands of trainees have gone through at least some sort of education regarding what is important for an idol to know. But I could be wrong. These young ladies had to have read some of the very many comments opinions regarding their recent activities. By now, it should be obvious to anyone that their lack of respect for their benefactors is genuine, and their supposed naivety is not. They continue this losing path instead of apologies and accountability. If their cause was valid, we would have seen evidence even a speck of corroboration or proof. We would have been supporting them and rooting for them. Now, we just want them to go away.
They are going to be paying massive fees in the fine print always talk about clauses etc and i'm sure the company went over them before they signed. Plus legally binding documents in korea needs also they stamp seal with all parties involved. I wonder how this will play out and if they will get them for breach of contract
I think their pay out penalties are approximately 300 billion won. And Hybe has their artists get their own legal representation to go over and advise them on contracts before signing. But since they signed with Ador and Mhj, the CEO at the time, had already planned her sabotage of Hybe, so she probably didn’t care if the girls understood what they were signing.
@@cyann410 that's alot of money. Plus some companies make you pay them back when you were a trainee if you debut or not. So to they may have to pay back money as when they were trainees
I support NewJeans, humans over corporations. Ador is not nurturing and seems in fact, adversarial to their only group. Not a great environment to feel creative and safe, which I assume is stated explicitly or implicitly in their contract. Legally, we shall see if Ador did indeed uphold their duties as custodians and protectors of NewJeans. NewJeans seems to have done their part, creating music and making a lot of money for Ador.
I really wish NJ would see the light, kick MHJ to the kerb, talk with Ador and embrace a new producer/manager. This could be a real comeback moment for them and they could try and salvage some sort of career. I am BTS ARMY so have nothing but distain for MHJ for trying to hurt BTS and other Hybe artists. NJ and their families need to realise that MHJ is NOT the type of role model they need in business or in life.💜
I truly am glad that ADOR brought the needful out to the open legally coz for some reasons NJ does not seem to understand this and are acting like kids... they should actually get back to school and stick with ADOR and believe in themselves more instead of fighting for MHJ and let that woman fight her own battles rather than making these 5 young girls her shield and messing their lives and career completely.
I think this is fair for Ador. If NJ wants to make such a massive statement, action needs to be taken. I even think NJ should be accountable for any financial losses made by their statement as decided by the court
Ok. Let's look at the facts (again). 1. THIS ALL STARTED when MHJ started asking questions about whether Hybe had copied NJ for Illit. Later revelations showed that Illit's concept/promotion plan was at least partially lifted, almost directly, from Min's concept documents. 2. When Min kept asking questions, Hybe went ballistic and started digging to find anything they could use, coming up with a lot of bullshit accusation like Embezzlment that the courts tossed out and later in a seperate ruling said she could stay as Ador CEO. 3. When this didn't work, Hybe fired the two pro-Min board members and replaced them with puppets who did fire Min. Then Hybe disingeniously said they couldn't do anything about it because it was the board that fired Min. Talk about chuzpah. 4. During the Assembly's hearing with the sacrificial head of Be:lift (sent when Fat Asshole Bang ignored appearing), it was revealed that a "Market Research" report contained derogatory remarks not only about New Jeans, but apparently slanderiing a good number of other groups as well. Although claiming it was just gossip from other sources that was included, Hybe terminated the market report and fired the executive in charge of it. Remember too that only a small portion of the report was made public, so you have to wonder what was in those sequestered pages. We've also learned that there was an internal chat room for Hybe employees and that many of them were slandering NJ in it without any warning or pushback from the company that this was unacceptable, leading to the conclusion Hybe was more than happy to create a toxic environment for the group in the hopes of pressuring them to back off. 5. Hanni's assertion that she was disrespected was made WITHOUT identifying the group. It was Hybe that outed Illit as the group and dragged them into the fight. Remember that Fat Asshole Bang has consistently failed to congratulate NJ on their many award wins and sales figures, a standard practice for any company and certainly a sign of standing in status-conscious Korea. Recently, we've also learned that NJ's support staff at their current scheduled events had work and personal equipment taken without reason and parked in rooms, cut off from the girls, where the staff were forced to wait for no reason. You also have to note that the current CEO of Ador, an HR specialist for heaven's sake, told Hanni there was no proof of her assertions without making any effort to investigate. Yet, when Hanni went public, suddenly they started investigating. It should also be noted that the hearings brought out the fact that "Contract workers," like Idols, do not share the same anti-harrassment protections that ordinary workers have, and that "Hanni's Law" protecting all workers, regardless of their employment status, will be protected. 6. Hybe keeps crying they only want the best for NJ and have great plans for them...plans that they've failed to share with the members. Actions speak louder than words, and so far Hybe's words are just that, gauzy protestations of innocence, while their actions can be reasonably inferred to show Hybe has every intention of ignoring NJ as much as possible and possibly even disbanding them once things die down. 7. I'm really tired of hearing the "No one will want to work with them" line. They're a best-selliing, chart-topping, award-winning group still with a huge fanbase. They've never been accused of not fulfilling their professional obligations. Many Idols have also shown their support for the girls and there are reports that some agencies have already reached out to NJ, with Jennie (now the head of OA and openly looking for talent) showing love and friendship for the girls. Considering the past fights many Idols have had with their agencies, who do you think most creatives are going to side with? The members are a hot property and will have no trouble finding a new home when they leave Hybe, nor will they have problems bringing Min with them. She's a two-decade vet of the business with multiple achievements to her name. She probably knows everyone in the business and they know her. Hybe has also never accused Min of not fulfilling her professional obligations with NJ and indeed made a (bullshit) offer to let her continue as creative director/manager of the group, begging the never-answered question of why she's fit to be the CD but not the CEO? 8. Regarding NJ's contract. HYBE SIGNED THE CONTRACT WITH THE UNILATERAL TERMINATION CLAUSE. They didn't protest it then because they thought (I'm assuming) that NJ would never have cause or the guts to use it. Now Hybe is suddenly saying a clause in A CONTRACT THEY AGREED TO is invalid. In the end, it's going to boil down to whether NJ can show Hybe has deliberately mismanaged them. I believe they have a strong case and will win in the end. I stand with MHJ and NJ. Hybe is a dirty company and they will lose...
What they didn't realize is that court decisions are universal, meaning, if one court decides on something, then other courts will base this court's decision on their own, meaning, this would legalize pirating of artists who are under contract, to be pirated by the highest bidder.
Im a newjeans fans but, there's really nothing i can do i just hope nj would actually go back to ador since ador still want to resolve the conflict between them
Good for ADOR. GOOD for kpop industry. breach of contract by MHJ based on substantial evidence got her terminated. It's not the same for Members of New Jeans. NJ has no evidence beyond their feelings. They are clearly doing the bidding of MHJ. NJ could be in trouble for tampering with other artists too.
It better to make another group. I think Hybe will set target to destroy Min Hee Jin first. New Jeans can be set hiatus or to pay penalty if they work with other party. Ador only got 6% of total Hybe profit.
For goodness sake, what are their parents doing? There’s no way all their parents are unable to reason properly and see that the careers of these kids is going down the drain. I believe they also know how contracts work and I believe they all have some sort of group chat where they voice their opinions and can brainstorm.There’s no way a parent would let their child make this stupid decision and do nothing about it. These parents are the biggest let down. It doesn’t make sense
Bro parents??? They complained that hanni lived in a room of cockroches.......as if bts and bp had a 5star hotel room to stay and became this popular🙄 They are from rich backgrounds Still they didn't take their children back in their trainee days!!! Their Parent's are just greed for money or mhj did shamanic act on them
Everything NewJeans has done in the past 6 months is premeditated all for MHJ. NewJeans should blame Min Hee Jin or they should blame themselves for signing a contract with Min Hee Jin and ADOR. MHJ persuaded them to sign for her own financial benefit.
They said they want nothing to do with HYBE whilst still using HYBE's resources and also trying to steal from the company.and defaming the company and bullying the company whilst calling it inhumane.But they are having secret meetings with mother cockroach and lying about it. Crying wolf but talking smack about the company. Pay up and leave or shut up and work!
@dlat1825 yes as part of the agreement that they have with Ador. They weren't doing the company a favour and it doesn't mean they can do whatever they want does it? Contracts are drawn for a reason.
I dont know they mentioned in their statement that again ADOR failed to defend them by allowing dispatch to post Malicious statement against them. I dont get it they want Ador to protect them but they themselves mentioned they terminate their contract, they are the one who always says derrogatory words against HYBE and ADOR.. How can someone protect them if they are like that. Really i want to save this kids from who ever is guiding them in the wrong path… Its better for them to stay silent and let the court decide you have to present proof not just mere words as this doesnt bare much weight in the court. If they lost this one what now…
But why would ADOR get involved ? Do they want to pay Dispatch to silence them? What ever Dispatch stated they presented proof so what can ADOR do? Plus like you said they want nothing to do with HYBE and they “terminated” their contract already so why should ADOR get involved and protect them since according to them they are no longer part of ADOR right
How protect them after they and Mama Roach bad mouthed these other girl groups. Mama Roach started all this, but they can't see her responsibility for the main cause of all this in the first place.
wow I guess millions of people around the world with legally binding contracts and are TRULY unfairly treated should just follow the NJ way of WHINE and DASH. The reason why you don't see this happening is because there are legal/financial consequences.
Newjeans members are kinda greedy and egoistic somehow if they want to leave this company when their contract is still valid they should pay their termination fees also they think their evidence of workplace harassment case would be covered to pay their contract termination fees toward their company. That's all because they follow and obey the rules and strategy of this toxic woman. If they have confidence in their skill and their star qualities, they should not be afraid of the outcome regardless of how many levels of production and management change.
I can’t imagine this is going to go over well with future business dealings. If they aren’t willing to abide by the contract they signed in this situation, they could pull this move with future contracts. And who wants to deal with a mess like this?
Minji, Hanni, Danielle, Haerin, and Hyein have earnt millions of dollars of profits for Ador. Of course they are valuable. Ador is a shell company - a method of accounting.
i stand by hybe and ador!!! this girls are shamelesss. they will never be who they are right now if not for hybe to give them a chance to debut. after using the company resources now they want out???!!! how ungrateful they are .. they are so stupid to believe that their shaman greedy manager, now director and script writer of their act is good to them . they are being use as sheild.... first i find them so innocent and nice after that crocodile tears act, im so disgusted. a little fame they already acted like this. i hope they get to pay all the trouble they cause on ador and hybe.
Boom!! Finally ! Someone has to tell NJ that they can’t go as they please! And they know they screwed up and now have to WORK even harder under the contract ! ADOR and HYBE win and I wish for the winner to take it all !!!!
The girls will either come to their senses now or suffer the consequences of their own actions. Hear me when I say, MHJ will no doubt bring them down and in the K-POP industry- this could ruin their careers. 🔊🔊
I would like to think that bunnies supporting newjeans actions lately aren't in the age of working in a corporate world. Because I can never imagine a person who knew what a contract is saying newjeans are doing the right thing here. though what you feel is important, but contract is a commitment and once you sign it you agree to anything it says you are responsible for that. The parents for sure knew read the contract before debut I don't get why they play dumb here.
Then let me explain. All corporations, and all contracts are subordinate to law. No person can be forced to work. Minji, Hanni, Danielle, Haerin, and Hyein have earnt millions of dollars of profits for Ador, so Ador have no claim for damages.
Is hilarious how NJ is claiming now that they have been mistreated! When MIN JEE got caught & been let go as CEO of ADOR? Like why now NJ? oh yes the mistreatment allegations arent about you but MIN JEE! & YOUR TERMS MET? YOU GUYS? YOU MEAN MIN JEEs TERMS? Complete FACTS!!! really unprofessional of NJ to instead of getting all together face to face like professionals to resolve this! No we want even more than other KPOP groups like our mother & parents said! NJ is KPOPs reckoning!
Mistreatment issue is just an excuse to leave with MHJ imo. Otherwise they would have already filed a lawsuit against the company with evidences as its been so many months since the drama started. He did she did they did😛
This is such a misuse of the companies, trust and backing. It completely confuses me how irresponsible and naïve these girls are. Everything I’ve seen has shown that this company has tried to work with these girls and that it’s clearly their decision not to wanna go any further with their own company And violate their own contract. I hope these girls get everything that is coming to them. In addition, even I who would generally be on the side of the employee cannot condone their behavior. There must be some protection for this company to prevent these girls from walking all over them.
Finally Ador will kick ass! As far as the industry goes they cannot make this a precedent and every other agency is rooting for them (Ador).Those girls trusting MHJ will lose and their reputation in the industry is going to be crap. Nice thinking girls! DUH!
We support Hybe and Ador Mhj and Nwjns are in the wrong with all the drama, accusation, media manipulation and zero evidence. I really hope South Korea legal system isnt biased and give the correct decision on this case people shouldnt be allowed to just bunny uncle their way out of contracts penalty. They xan leave but must be bound by law to pay every dime due for breach of contract and the loss theyve caused hybe. Thus far they havent suffered loss as ador is till promoting them and willing to work with them.
The girls might have been taught by MHJ that just because they have earned a lot in a short period of time, the amount of money that they had brought to the company could buy out their contract.
If they're so sure that Hybe has failed to fulfill its side of the contract, then NJ should take it to court and have the court formally dissolve it. It'd be in their interests: what third party is going to contract with them if there's dispute about whether their current contract is still valid or not? Get a formal dissolution from a court so you can get new endorsement deals.
Uneducated, misinformed, and arrogant. and obviously brainwashed by MHJ. they're not even 5 years into their debut yet, basically still newbies in the industry, and already acting like they're untouchables. i was initially rooting for them, but they're just going about this the wrong way. their parents are to blame too. truly unfortunate.
Have them payout the contract and just kick them to the curb whomever they like to be with whatever company and end the drama with them. Let them see the reality of starting without the luxury.
All this time ador havebeen silence cause they didn't wanted to involve any legal proceed they just wanted to settle down this matter by proper discussion with the NJ member's but they're like no we gone do the things which our Greedy momma tell us to do like now face this consequence
Somebody please explain to these juveniles what the word “contract” means. Tired of their whining and wrong interpretation of their irrational explanations of their self-terminations. Their reasons have been proven to be untruthful or proofs. Pay your financial contract liabilities and leave.
Contract are subordinate to human rights laws. No contract can force someone to work. Minji, Hanni, Danielle, Haerin, and Hyein have already earnt millions of dollars of profits for Ador, so there are no civil claims for damages.
@@cyann410 You're right, but I don't remember how much exactly these penalties are, but it is a massive amount... And even if they are 5 to pay (including the 🧙♀️ ) & working all life-long, I'm not sure they would be able to pay everything...
It’s not just about earnings. Hybe has been paying hundreds of people to support them from day one, getting them stages. Now is the time in a contract when the company starts seeing that money come back and the profits to make it worth it, but now is when they want to leave. The company hasn’t done anything criminal to justify it. I understand why the price would be high. They never acknowledged any of that by offering to pay anything, just zero. Crazy.
@@bluehourtarot Yes, you're right! The whole situation since the beginning of the fight had been completely nuts!!! I'm so disappointed in NJ, like so many at the beginning, I loved them... And I can't understand how you begins in "oh, we're realising our dream to be idol in the biggest Kr Music Company, following BTS's (2 members at least were" fans"...) steps, to "we hate them, & we don't wanna work with this company anymore, we just trust only our "CEO" "...
@ They were badly influenced right away I guess. She probably told them all the time that without her they are nothing. It’s too bad. I bet there are many young trainees who would love to be given the songs they got.
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If nj signed a professional contract, then it is binding by law. If nj want to leave Ador, they should pay off that contract. This is business, and nj are NOT above the law.
the thing is they already paid their investment plus bring profits. They didn't break a rule on their contract for them to payback.
@@sheabutterflythey are not paying “an investment” they are paying for breaking the contract without proving that hybe/ador actually breached the contract, if by that logic then anyone can break a contract and disrespect the company that made just because they paid back their “investment”
@@sheabutterflyearning income was part of getting hired as a contract worker, but paying a termination fee is a completely different thing because you pay for the lost income the remaining time you had promised to work for them and you're breaking that promise and compensate the financial loss.
@@sheabutterfly Grow up and smell the contract
@@sheabutterflyI think you didn't understand. Their breaking the rules by not completing their contract, they should pay for it.
You CANNOT just leave, you can't. It's a legal contract. You can't just say "Oh, I'm unhappy so the contract is nullified."
You cannot say, "Oh this contract no longer let's me have everything I want so it's no longer a legal contract." Nope, doesn't work that way NewJeans and Min Heejin.
Hell not even in other countries can you do that.
Young little girls that don't understand anything legal. Mhj is also clueless. They should just go back to being normal teenagers and quit the industry. They are too naive.
they said multiple times that ADOR was not respecting the terms of the contract in the first place but you and people like you still don't want to listen to women/workers that report abuse and mistreatment, believing that the stronger part of this situation, the one with all the money and the power, is the innocent one.
And you don't believe they had legal help from specialists? Do you honestly think they (and their families) are that clueless about the reality of their contract?
@@TeoJva if they are so confident on their stand, then prove to the court.
All the pity-grabbing via presscon and statements are pointless. WALK THE TALK
@@TeoJva Claiming such doesn't make it true. All NJ's claims are legit bs tbh
@@TeoJvaBffr, NJ's are abusing others and staff.
Expected. I don't know how NewJeans and Min Hee Jin thought they could terminate their contract without paying the penalty fees especially without strong enough or concrete evidence of break of contractual terms
Court of public opinion and they are counting on ador to be tired of the drama and let them go without consequences bc they think nj with cute girly face will win pity.
@@yen-8680💯☠️
They wanted adore to make the 1st call so they can appear that they are the one being mistreated thus gaining sampthy from the public and making adore look bad
Ador breached their end of the contract
@@jameshii3807how?
NJ가 전문가 계약에 서명했다면 법적으로 구속력이 있습니다. NJ가 Ador를 떠나고 싶다면 Ador에게 지불해야 할 금액을 지불하세요. 이것은 사업이며 NJ는 법 위에 있지 않습니다.
They do not owe they make only profit. Ador breeched the contract and Newjeans wrote official letter asking fir correction of breech which Ador did not correct. They officially anounced their termination after the 14 day grace required by the contract.
한국인이 소녀들을 지지하나요? 많은 사람들이 한국인이 소녀들의 퇴장을 지지한다고 말합니다. 하지만 국제 팬들은 최근 소녀들의 행동에 만족하지 않습니다. 그런데, 저는 번역기를 사용하고 있습니다.
@@ijustlearnhowtochange Personally I'm pretty curious about it. Do most Koreans really support newjeans' decision and is Ador the bad guy? I think the reason international fans are not happy is because we are tired from the news haha. Also it seems there is a bit of emotional manipulation and bratty actions
how to terminate contract legally: use the court ruling.. if new jeans is professional, they should do the legal way by using the laws, show the proof in the court..
증거가 있으면 벌써 기사 나왔죠 증거도 없이 저런짓을 벌인겁니다 국정감사 할때도 증거를 못 내밀었는데 무슨수로 없는 증거를 내밀어요
They just answered and said the rest of the evidence will be released in court
@@classicmercy955if they had evidence they would be the 1st one to file the law suit. But they don't have anything. Same with MHJ she complained with many things but there is no evidence from her side
@@seemats3493exactly its a basic common sense. They don’t have any evidences otherwise they would have already filed for lawsuits as they seems bold and daring. But they are just wasting time with media play, crying in front of the camera, he did she did and bringing Ignoring incident to NA. Its so obvious they only want MHJ, mistreatment issue is just an excuse to leave with MHJ.
@Seasonal-Kpopper true . They will lose the case. Bye bye NJ
It's about time. Kpop industry is affected with this emotional argument from NJ. They should cut their ties with MHJ and move on with their career with Ador. Everything can be settled in a proper way. They should start by being humble and respectful.
They are kids playing in an adult world.
Min Heejin is playing them like a fiddle. They are in for a rude awakening real quick.
They are young Adults not naive lil Kids
They've been too much shamanised... The girls & their families looks completely ADDICTED to MHJ!!
Beware of this new drug!! 😆
I'm joking but the situation is serious for all kpop industry... I can't believe a bunch of girls with their witch could harm so much HYBE...
This would be the smart thing to do.
Emmmm, since when 20s considered little kid? I believe there’s only one or two reaching the age of 18-19, the rest are 20s+
I just hope these girls understand whom to choose as mentor in future. MHJ has done enough destruction for their image already.
Who’s gonna invest in them again? They clearly have no professional sense of duty. Would you? Especially seeing what they are doing in real-time??????????
@@alexanderharo4550 Nope I am not that stupid 😂
@@19astromahima nobody would hire someone who will potentially destroy a company, they are a liability at this point 😞. I hope next time they would approach things professionally and not by pure illogical emotions.
@@min3089 true no one will be that idiot. I just said whatever they opt for in the future I just hope they understand whom to seek guidance from. That lady is good for nothing stupid who not only ruined herself but destroyed these girls too and they are stupid enough as well to be manipulated at this level.
아도르는 계약을 주문하고 추구하고 준수하기 위해 합법적으로 사업을 수행했지만 뉴진즈는 미성숙하고 너무 강력/무적의 행동을 하고 있습니다...
MHJ: You don't need proof or facts if you can cry.
Cry and lie.....
Will not work in a real court.
MHJ will teach them how to use woman body for lobbying as Dispatch article state 😂
@@anistardi ooohh baby......lol
Someone finally said that 🤌😄
I fully support Hybe and Ador, if you don't want to abide by a contract, don't sign a contract. If you walk away be ready to pay.
Thank you, finally someone said the magic words!!!!! Don't sign the contract to begin with.
hypocrite
By that logic Ador should bring back MHJ as CEO since they had a contract. But they won't because as was pointed out they are hypocrites. I hope NewJeans wins this, its possible the termination clause is too vague for the courts force NewJeans back.
@@mykal7734 mhj is not an idol like newjeans... she is an employee, owner can fire their CEO in korean laws
New jeans already exceeded their profits to ador hybe so its no problem if hybe let them go but because hybe will lost their most popular group who earned so much or half earnings of hybe they cannot let go of new jeans😅in legal process, the contract between A and B has loopholes there is possibility that new jeans can get away from hybe if there is breach of trust in contract but if hybe wanted new jeans to stay hybe will do anything by any legal means to threaten nj to stay or rather destroyed them…
The girls need to get a dose of reality. If they want to leave, they should buy out their contract and pay up.
only applicable if the investment wasn't paid yet & them wanting to stop the schedules but NJ still going to fulfill the schedules so there's no penalty for them to pay.
@@sheabutterfly They won't pay if they will not terminate their contract with ADOR but the moment they stop working with ADOR and choose to go work with MHJ and sign contract with another Agency then they have to pay to terminate their contract with ADOR which MHJ talk with her underlings in the exposed Kakao chat with them. And NJ have not yet paid their debt with Ador after debuting but they received their million dollar salary.
@@virgie6983 NJ have long paid their debt that is why they are receiving salary.
@sheabutterfly
NewJeans' contract is set for 7 years, regardless of the profits they have helped ADOR generate the past 2-3 years. The investment is structured for 7 years, so the potential profits for the next 4-5 years also need to be taken into account. They can't simply leave without considering the earnings for that period. If they believe ADOR has breached the contract and are unwilling to pay, they must file a lawsuit against ADOR and gather strong evidence for the court. If they believe HYBE interfered, they will need to file a separate lawsuit against HYBE with solid evidence. ADOR and HYBE are two separate entities. They can't terminate the contract based on verbal claims and walk away.
@@sheabutterfly what’s their salary rate?
The court had better make the right decision so as not to endanger the entire Korean music industry because of 5 immature kids led by their "cockroach mom!!!"
The court does not have to make a decision, but an assessment. It is not this court that has to decide whether the contract is valid or not. The court only has to inform the parties whether the contract is still valid, according to the company regulations. There is a subtle difference.
Exactly!
@@bqantoNope, no difference dear! It’s either a legal contract or it’s not! There’s no grey area or subtle nuances! That’s business. You cannot just declare you’re breaking your contract because there was a change in the management of your company, ESPECIALLY where there’s criminal activity involved…or in the least, a serious breach of trust!
It’s ALL coming out…that manipulative veil has been lifted bit by bit and that woman’s going down; because of those girls’ st^pid decisions - despite the fact that this ‘mother’ said, in her own words, that she can’t stand those girls! Where is their self esteem? Where the hell are their parents??? After the way she talks / thinks about their children?! Shame on them for not properly guiding their children, instead of following, what they think is going to be, a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow..
cant wait 5 years after this someone will interview the girls asking how's life working at mcdonalds
You think any McDonald's shop will hire such little brats? 😂
Says the muppet who works at McDonalds 😂
U wish
@@JohnLee-db9zt cope
They rich already no need
They better be ready. Ador will not let them go so easily. If they want to leave, and terminate the contract without paying penalties, they have to *prove* Ador breached the contract or mistreated them. The Disptach article is not going to help them becuase it seems to be true that the girls, and their parents were working with MHJ to take Ador and bring down Hybe
So true.
At this point, i will never understand if there are people who will still support newjeans on their recent actions. If fans truly care about them, they wouldn't let the girls break the law. They are not above the law. They cannot just declare they do not want anything to do with the contracts they signed themselves just because. They have to go through proper legal proceedings. I used to sympathise with them, but i have to admit their recent action was unprofessional. I was expecting them to go to court when they gave an ultimatum. But it made me question, if they really have a strong case, why didn't they file a lawsuit first. They had all the time to talk about their feelings before the media. Why didn't they go to court directly just like what Loona did. I feel bad for the girls but this is just ridiculous I'm tired of it. I just don't care anymore at this point.
Why do they need to go to court when they follow the procedure on how to terminate a contract? They gave a 14 day grace perior which is standard before terminating and new ador just ignore them proving that they don't care about the members. They didn't run from existing contracts and willing to finished it. There's nothing for them to go to court unless ador blackmails them or force them to stay.
Bro contracts are different, and there's was not a slave contract and they can quit the company in their own termsn
You see, those 2 bunnies replied to your comment are clueless, I wonder if they even go to school?
Those sheabutterfly and nomnamnommm
@@sheabutterfly but the question is, which clause on their contract was breached by Ador? We cannot say for sure since it was confidential but the one thing that sticks out is they wanted to reinstate MHJ as CEO. Is it specifically sated on their contract that MHJ should be the CEO? They cannot just demand something that is not on their contract and it's not their job to decide who to appoint as CEO, it's the Board. And let's say I am a member of the board and I invested money on the Company, why would I appoint someone I don't trust. I think the company also claimed that some of their demands are beyond their capability. So in the end, it is up to the court to decide if the contract is really valid or not.
@@sheabutterfly but I think new jeans can still work in other company though. I have a feeling the company can not stop them from working elsewhere since it can affect their livelihood. But they have to forfeit the Newjeans brand name, their current advertisements, songs, etc since it is the property of Ador. And if in unfortunate circumstances that the court will decide against them, meaning their contract with Ador is valid, they have to unfortunately pay the price. So they really need to have a strong defence here.
The fact that they think they’re doing something positive…makes things worse…
They actually don't. They just want a free out to be with MHJ amd scam HYBE. They know its wrong.
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If newjeans felt wrong and were not happy with contract , they should have proceeded with legal lawsuits and whatever.Such uneducated and irrational actions are going to come back to them. They ruined their own livess
If they would've had proves, they would've sued the day after their CEO was fired. Instead of that, they are seeking for the public opinion support. They want people to support them and hate ADOR and HYBE, because... 1. they are unhappy,
2.they feel threatened
3. they feel unprotected
4. they don't have anymore joy to make music as they did
5.they don't work good with another director
6. they are mistreated
7. they are bullied/ignored
8.
9....
And all that hate will damage HYBE/ADOR image and maybe a judge will rule against ADOR's request for legal fees.
Sometimes in Korea judges are aware about the public opinion, and that's making them to rule according with that.
From the very beginning, starting with the first press conference, this case was build up on impressing and manipulating the public opinion.
They should have brought it to corporate FIRST. And asked for a proper investigation. Sadly, it looks like they made a complaint, but it was found to be not in their favor, so they didn't like it. So they threw a tantrum. That is not how you handle a professional contract, which only shows how HORRIBLY MHJ managed them....because a HEALTHY relationship between her and the girls, would have resulted in professional behaviors, following protocol that protects both parties!!!!!!!!!
I really liked NJ but what they are doing now is deeply annoying. They want to end a contract without paying for it when they leave it one sided. First in normal Live you can‘t end any contract just so why you want it that is why a contract has been concluded! If you want to end the contract there are rules. NJ seemed to be so arrogant, that those rules don‘t relate to them and their parents are desillusional too! In 3 years they get a lot more than any other group and then talking about breach of contract while bullied and not getting what they want but going the next day to Japan on schedules that ADOR has arranged and paid for, find the mistake in it all! I really hope the court shows them that they are wrong! For me personally I quit with them, too much is too much…
There's nothing for them to pay coz they have returned the investment plus profit and they are also not running away from schedules and brand contracts that were already signed. They were only to pay penalty if NJ cancels the schedules & brand contracts but they didn't so nothing for them to pay. Those contract already exist on mhj's time. Hybe & new ador has nothing planned or prepared for NJ and they didn't signed anything new since mhj went to public. So those schedules weren't prepared by new Ador. They are all existing contract.
Actually, no, they haven't. Every dime paid for everything was covered by ADOR since befor their debut. Costing MULTIPLE MILLIONS which have only partially been realized within the last 18 months. Sadly, they, if they had just remained quiet and focused on themselves, would have probably only lost MHJ (who never cared about them anyway) and would be looking at an AMAZING future.@sheabutterfly
@@sheabutterfly You don't know what you're saying NJ contract with ADOR is for 7 years they have 5 more years to fulfill their contract. So ergo they are breaking the contract agreement and in order to terminate their contract they have to pay for contract termination, MHJ knew it and have been talking about it with her underlings and they are seeking a way to avoid paying contract penalty, MHJ also know how much they are going to pay to terminate NJ contract with Ador/Hybe. And NJ are planning to stop working with Ador next year so YES they are breaking their contract agreement with Ador/Hybe.
@@virgie6983 they are artist in contract not slaves. If a company can terminate an artist rightaway for whatever reason I guess artist also have the right to terminate if they think their agreement is no longer meet. They have been vocal of their desire to bring back mhj since she is the brain behind new jeans. The new management aren't infavor with them and ignores them. How are you going to work on that environment? Are you just gonna wait that they locked you on the basement and mistreats you? They don't trust each other how do you think they will work? They are not a working robot that would just wait what the company will do to them. Their privacy and rights have been breach. If you are working on that company are you just gonna wait to be mistreated or do something to break your bond?
@@sheabutterflyhow old u are? U don't know how contract works. Kids should stay away from adults matters
I'm sure they would be well aware by now of the potential consequences to the whole industry but they obviously don't care about any other artists, just themselves and fawning obsessively over that woman who will abandon them as soon as they are no longer useful to her. Foolishness to the max and a lost cause it appears.
I actually wonder if they DO know. MHJ created an isolated bubble that they're still in and bunnies hype them up so much that New Jeans may feel like heroines because that's the majority of what they see.
I'm sure this will be watched both inside and outside the entertainment industry, as the decision will no doubt affect Korean contract law as a whole. If the courts do the wrong thing, it could set an irreversible precedent.
As far as I am concerned, this company needs to be put on notice as they have abused the power of the employer to their employees / artists
There is good that can come out of this by NJ termination of their contract = Hybe & Ador conducting themselves in a more professional manner....God Willing! 🤞
@@petsok3130
What evil doing are you talking about?
@@petsok3130 I think you don't understand what's going on.
@@petsok3130 both MHJ and NJ can't even sue them of anything evil as what you are saying bcos if these girls are indeed abused then there's a cause for breach. The reason why they're doing these drama and HYBE asking the court to prove their innocence bcos NJ has been treated good and they just want to leave without paying fees.
I believe that there are even more serious cases than this in the korean court, no way this can change the contract laws
Newjeans is officially finished
Old Pants are officially washed
Not quite official but dang close to it
Finally the drama will over.
I don’t want to pay my mortgage anymore, i hereby terminate the contract and don’t need to pay anymore ❤😂 yay! I have freedom now to live in that house and do anything. Who cares and contract is not a big deal anyway.
Wish I can walk out from my mortgage and leave the house behind like this 🥲
@ you can… newjeans says you still can enjoy the house if you want and do anything you want.
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Damn, I wish I had known this years ago.
you're stupid
Even if, A big IF, NJ wins for whatever reason, so do you think anybody would trust them anymore? Trust enough to make a contract with them? When they can just say, oh we don't wanna be in this exclusive contract so we're out just like that? I don't think so. They're just waving their career goodbye.
How can they settle when they themselves don't wanna talk to Ador?
The same argument with hybe, do you think people will trust hybe? Never again, trainees should not sign those vampiric contracts that destroy artist life.
@minuii But they know what they are signing on when they signed with Ador, with MHJ. And where is she now? Probably creating her own company because she failed to acquire Ador (her initial plot). This was about MHJ and Hybe, and yet, the girls got caught up in the middle (well, MHJ put them as shields). It's so sad, because these girls have potentials. Both sides need to talk it out to court, settle it once and for all.
@@minuiibut hybe is a big cooperation with "innocent idol who don't hold a say in this".fans will definitely support hybe artists ie indirectly supporting hybe....nj on the other hand are individuals who would be easy to blame and point fingers at
JYJ living under hot money with CJENM and SM still running good because at the end of the case just like another battles, we talk about money 💵. Feels sorry for the girls. I wish they'd have more information from the outsider about the complete issues with what happened on JYJ lawsuit, including Shinhwa and EXO-CBX. At least, I wish the girls be able to makes sure that they're not in under control by anoyne, not even MHJ. Be careful, girls. Be wise and strong enough to see who is who around you, girls.
@Ena2010 It's just sad that these girls are thrown in the pit without guidance, and if they are, it all seems wrong. Do they really really know the repercussions of their actions? Yes, they are brave to fight off whatever it is going onwithin Ador and Hybe, but they did it irrationally and not in a legal sense. Hopefully, we'll get a closure all deserve in the end.
Now it is the beginning of a long and exhausting for NJ. Their activities may be put on hold, NJ say they are prepared but the fact that HYBE didn’t immediately attack them is quite respectable they try to negotiate but the battle is going to be bloody for them
And could be dragged out for years. Does not hurt ADOR or HYBE. June 2525 is just months away.
In this case iam agreeing with company, you cant just announce you want to leave because you feel unhappy. YOU NEED to READ THE CONTRACT, what a dumb kid.
Ador 1, Shaman 0
😂😂 It's good one
I don't understand why they are saying Hybe/Ador is not protecting them. Do they not walk around with body guards? Do they not still practice at Hybe and have access to their facilities? Were they cut off from continuing to fulfill their obligations? Do they not get the attention they so desperately seek?
I guess they expected the new CEO to go kick down BeLift's door and drag out that one manager and get her fired or at least shamed for an allegation, that doesn't seem to have even happened.
Excelente!! A esas niñas hay que enseñarles a respetar los contratos!! No quieren nada con Hybe pero aún usan sus guardaespaldas?? Quien entiende!! Veamos qué dicen las leyes allá !!
Respect the contracts? You mean slavery?
If NJs intended to begin a new career independent of Ador, that idea is now dead in the water pending a decision on contract validity. This might take years.
Meanwhile no one will work with them for fear of legal action by Ador.
It's amusing that they will still have to continue activities and contribute to Ador's bottom line.
Honestly feel bad for new ador ceo, imagine just getting a position of ceo and dealing with people like new jeans. And now it’s clear that the company is trying to solve the matter and be less dramatic and avoid conflicts but new jeans just keeps dragging the situation on and on and on. They are clearing exaggerating stuff.
Edit: IK SHE ( current ador ceo) IS DOING GREAT. I was just saying it in a casual way..... People took it seriously 😭
Not really. She knew what would be in front of ADORE, and Mama Roach when she accepted the position, and she has HYBE and their team of attorneys at her side. She is actually just being ADOR’s ‘spoke-person’.
She’s been with HYBE since the beginning so she knows what she has to do. Didn’t you see how she handled the audit? Everyone thought she should’ve done better, but she actually did great. You cannot argue with those politicians. You have to let them believe that you’re below them hence the Belift Lab CEO did the same when they questioned him. Hanni thought she gave the greatest performance of her life during the audit but she and the politicians only used each other for public (bunnies/HYBE haters) approval. She claimed she was greatly affected by the mistreatment and cried crocodile tears and yet she constantly posed and smiled at the camera and happily exchange greetings with everyone. She even made the evil smirk when the CEO of Ador was talking. And worse, she and their leader went live and talked about how she put on a good show in the audit! Even laughing about how she cried! For everyone to watch! smh
Njeans need to be really taught a lesson on rules n laws. They becoming too arrogant n entitled..
Yes they think they are above the law, never a good road to take.
Thank you Mr. Bang.
They can say all they want but if they haven't legally taken any steps to leave their contract, then what the heck are they doing?! They say they have evidence, so fine - go to court and present your evidence and legally leave the company
At this time, the contract is still legally valid and the court will confirm. The girls can stay and work, or leave and pay. So exhausted with them, I just want them gone. They really have ended their careers, other agencies won't want them after all this drama and nonsence.
Minji, Hanni, Danielle, Haerin, and Hyein have earnt millions of dollars of profits for Ador. So there is no claim for damages.
We’ve been waiting. Haven’t we?
I still feel bad for the 5 brats who have been led to the mess. Now I just hope the parents step up and bring them to real world. They must realise the 0.1% of chance they still have to bring things to workout.
The parents should have done that a long time ago.
@ Exactly. It’s too late tbh. But I just hope Lesson learned and time to fix things
부모들이 돈욕심에 본인들이 새로운 소속사 차린다는데 무슨 기대를 바라시나요? 민희진이나 뉴진스나 애초에 돈욕심에 저러고 배산한건데요
The parents are also in the land of delusional.
@@Lisaloveshearts Yes, you're right. Too late now.
What a sad time to be Ador CEO
Not really. She knew what would be in front of ADORE, and Mama Roach when she accepted the position, and she had HYBE and their team of attornies at her side.
These girls have no legal basis that their company didn’t protect them. Ador has tried time and time again to meet with them and try to resolve their concerns but they have refused every step of the way.
In their first press conference they flat out said they will not work with the new CEO…well, that’s not how it works in business - you don’t get to dictate who’s running the company. Ador’s / Hybe’s issues with MHJ have NOTHING to do with NJ’s contracts with them. it’s ludicrous!!!
Slavery is illegal by international law.
Pay up and move on. There is too much of this drama already. They really can't just go without paying.
Minji, Hanni, Danielle, Haerin, and Hyein have earnt millions of dollars of profits for Ador. They are not animals! Do you not understand that slavery is illegal by international law?
@@dlat1825 lol 😂 you sounded you haven't work in your life, a contract is a contract don't want it on the first place don't sign up for it.
ADOR is trying their best to work with the girls and they still aren't budging? These girls unfortunately need a wake up call. I can't imagine they have any career in Korea after this. What company would risk taking them on if they act like this when they don't like something?
@@curi No company will risk the peace and reputation
These girls themselves understand what they are saying. They also said in a language that we are no longer members of Hybe because we terminated it ourselves. It is just a language. Hybe has no right to interfere in our work. But we are not leaving Hybe and we are using the company's money right now. I mean, I have never seen anything more childish and spoiled than the New Jeans girls. Oh my God, they don't understand what they are saying at all. But until the company took legal and logical action, they quickly stated that we did not violate anything. You spoiled girls, this is illegal and unprofessional. They themselves know that their work is based on a plan and stubbornness. Because they did not go to talk in the first place, they only said illogical things. Now that Hybe has acted legally, they quickly stated again to focus public opinion on themselves again and abuse the feelings of the fans. There are still naive people who support these people. If so, I feel sorry for you. And you know why they are playing the same role of victim again because they know that this lawsuit will go to court against them and in favor of Hybe. Because the court has no feelings to say, "Wow!" Strong and brave girls 😂😂 The doctor checks the documents and this means that they are the work of the naughty girls of NewJeez. They think they are very smart and political, but they are not because they want to be so rebellious that they will leave without compensation and damages and force the people of Hybe to give them their group name and songs for free. They are so shameless that they say all this is slander. I have not seen a more liar than NewJeez in all of K-pop. And when they say that our company employees are the same traitors who were not identified and were still spying on Min Hee Jin, I think Adore has figured it out. Please do not support these girls and Min Hee Jin in the name of being fans. You are only ruining the work of other Hybe groups. The work of these naughty girls and Min Hee Jin has karma. All this slandering of leesarfim, iliit, enhypenbts, and other groups. Please wake up.
At long last... the grown ups are taking charge.
the thing i am surprised about is that ador is still willing to work with the girls if it was some other company then they would be in big trouble.
This is ADOR doing their ways not to breach the contract.
It's like ADOR saying " I'm doing and giving you things. Doing my part just to make this relationship work and not to be blamed when we broke up'
@@KhanaHathaway83Agree. It is not because Ador CEO is good person 😂 How naive... They should follow the law even if they have bad intent. Not like stup1d kpop fans 😂😂😂
It also couldn't hurt if it prevents Mama roach to be able to capitalise on managing her favourite brats again at another agency.
Honestly NJ is so stupid to claiming contract was terminated yet still using ADOR and HYBE resources, so funny
Aigoo... Poor kids. Now they all in deep trouble. 'NEWJ JEAN NEVER DIE' you say? Yeah... But your career does.
Good point. What company in their right mind will take them now that they very publicly walk out on contracts?
Danielle deliberately says newjeans never dies (desperate for the people's support), want to get away without paying, saying that they didn't violate the contract but is it really? They want to work with the people they "like" also still continue being newjeans? Lol they are entitled.
Such a shame. So young, with such bright future ahead of them. Career suicide, walking out on a legally binding contract, no matter what country you live in. Such a shame, they just happened to trust the wrong person. The parents should have also been there to lend guidance.
@@_micinnom😂hahahah... The mysterious investor you mean? .If does, They still cannot going anywhere till the contract terminate legally. If court didn't give any word about this...NJ stuck with ADOR. This case will not solved in short time what I know. It's gonna be looooongggggggggg journey for both side. ADOR...NJ. I wish you good luck.
@maovang4629 isn't it. Poor little things. I really wish NJ think twice before make the press conference about their termination declarations. And now...they can't turn back time. Only luck can help them.
This comment section really shows how little people really understand business and contracts and the entertainment industry. Emotions and contracts/ businesses don't have anything "personal" between the two. Contracts don't have to take Feelings into consideration. Once you've signed on the dotted line, you better uphold your end or take it to court if you can't negotiate a better deal between both parties. Making emotional comments/complaints and statements about the contract publicly, without any attempts at negotiations, are automatic grounds for a lawsuit. The fact that they made this mess public and didn't even sit down with the company is a breach of contract. Why is that so hard to understand? Bosses can change at any time for any reason. The employee/talents in the company don't get to dictate how the owner of the company run their business. That woman screwed up those kids' heads, to the point that they truly don't understand how much they've ruined their reputation and their future music careers. They most likely don't even understand how much trouble that woman is in currently. It's such a shame.
NJ fans are immature kids. So they support their immature idols. What can we expect from uneducated people?
Minji, Hanni, Danielle, Haerin, and Hyein have earnt millions of dollars of profits for Ador. They are not animals! Do you not understand that slavery is illegal? No contract can enforce ongoing labour, regardless of the terms of a contract.
A contract that is legally bind should go through proper preceding to be terminated. If through press conference you can just terminate your exclusive contract then many will follow after this😅
Slavery is illegal. No contract can override human rights.
When is Mama Roach gonna pay back the millions she borrowed off Chairman Bang?
Did HYBE win - that Mama Roach has to pay back money she borrowed from Bang?
That is a private loan between the 2 of them. I hope he let's her pay him back every won!!
@@annbeck2298 To show good faith in her, he lent her money to buy shares in Ador. Makes her betrayal all the more sickening.
@@annbeck2298 Are you serious? She borrowed the money fron Chairman Bang. Of course she has to pay it back. That loan has nothing to with what's going on. It is a separate issue.
NJ have sadly shot themselves in the foot. Even if they make amends with Ador, there's no way Ador will trust the group now. They might just keep NJ under the contract, but refuse to promote them, and keep them on the backburner. That will be the final nail for NJ in that case, if they're unable to release any new songs or do worldwide promotions, etc. Ador could even hurt NJ by giving all of NJ's music catalogue to ILLIT.
But that would put Ador in breach of contract and give the brats a way to get out. So Ador won't! It remains to be seen if advertisers and their audience are still interested in their music. They could fizzle out.
@@isiseungella4688they will probably lose all their luxury brand deals.
@@isiseungella4688Agree. Ador will careful. Ador will do as usual until the court decision. No way Ador will sue New Jeans only base of speech evidence. Ador need hard evidence. So Ador only ask the validity of the contract to the court.
Nope. NJ has lots of engagements, activities and endorsements lined up plus the making of their full album said Ador. They’ve been trying to set a meeting with NJ several times but they refused to acknowledge the requests. That’s why NJ had to fly to Japan immediately after their last conference about them terminating their contract to Ador coz they didn’t abandon NJ like what the girls, MHJ and the bunnies are saying. Thay even promoted NJ’s song that’s why it’s No. 35 on the top songs of 2024 announced by the Rolling Stones. Plus they rank 4th or 5th (not sure which) in Japan for 2024 as well. So no, I don’t think Ador would stop supporting NJ since they already invested a great deal in making them Global artists. Their contract ends in 2029, so if NJ stayed in Ador until that time… everything would already been resolved and they would be stupid to not renew their contract by then unless their career is over after this drama.
@@isiseungella4688ador is very smart so they are not one who is going for contract termination. Don't underestimate hybe leaders they made bankruptcy company to multi billion dollar company. Their one big mistake was hiring MHJ. But they will manage themselves. They have all evidence against MHJ
Let's be real, there are many k-pop groups who has experienced suceess in the early stage of their career like Exo and Blackpink, however, both of groups were mistreated by their companies for various reasons. Yet they remained strong, valiant and humble despite their popularity.
NJ, on the other side, came from a company that was built on the legacy of BTS, who have worked hard for their success. To be honest, everything handed to them on a silver platter that's why they took everything for granted. They don't care about what they have, that's why they are ready to throw everything away for the sake of MHJ. It doesn't matter they are naive or not, at the end of the day, they participated in their own downfall.
I would believe that during training days, contracts and/or basic business dealings and obligations of idols would have been covered at some point. Thousands of trainees have gone through at least some sort of education regarding what is important for an idol to know. But I could be wrong. These young ladies had to have read some of the very many comments opinions regarding their recent activities. By now, it should be obvious to anyone that their lack of respect for their benefactors is genuine, and their supposed naivety is not. They continue this losing path instead of apologies and accountability. If their cause was valid, we would have seen evidence even a speck of corroboration or proof. We would have been supporting them and rooting for them. Now, we just want them to go away.
To be honest, the damage will be with NJ's members
They are going to be paying massive fees in the fine print always talk about clauses etc and i'm sure the company went over them before they signed. Plus legally binding documents in korea needs also they stamp seal with all parties involved. I wonder how this will play out and if they will get them for breach of contract
I think their pay out penalties are approximately 300 billion won. And Hybe has their artists get their own legal representation to go over and advise them on contracts before signing. But since they signed with Ador and Mhj, the CEO at the time, had already planned her sabotage of Hybe, so she probably didn’t care if the girls understood what they were signing.
Who is paying their legal fees?
@@cyann410 that's alot of money. Plus some companies make you pay them back when you were a trainee if you debut or not. So to they may have to pay back money as when they were trainees
As Minji, Hanni, Danielle, Haerin, and Hyein have earnt millions of dollars of profits, it is impossible for Ador to claim damages.
If you sympathize with NewJeans, you’re either a bot sent by Min Hee Jin or don’t understand the entire story.
I support NewJeans, humans over corporations. Ador is not nurturing and seems in fact, adversarial to their only group. Not a great environment to feel creative and safe, which I assume is stated explicitly or implicitly in their contract. Legally, we shall see if Ador did indeed uphold their duties as custodians and protectors of NewJeans. NewJeans seems to have done their part, creating music and making a lot of money for Ador.
@ you have no idea what you’re talking about.
Is Hybe your parents company? Otherwise why the fk you need to protect them?
@@someonedosomethingunknown I don’t like Min Hee Jin and her brats manipulating us by blatantly lying and gaslighting. The company is irrelevant
@@tripicusyour reasoning is dangerous 😮 all people supporting this group's act, i fear how ignorance has taken over..
5 brats
We support hybe and ador
I really wish NJ would see the light, kick MHJ to the kerb, talk with Ador and embrace a new producer/manager. This could be a real comeback moment for them and they could try and salvage some sort of career. I am BTS ARMY so have nothing but distain for MHJ for trying to hurt BTS and other Hybe artists.
NJ and their families need to realise that MHJ is NOT the type of role model they need in business or in life.💜
MH/ was never about anyone else other than herself.
This time I really think Hybe and Ador are right ... Stop the shenanigans or it will contaminate other serious groups...
I truly am glad that ADOR brought the needful out to the open legally coz for some reasons NJ does not seem to understand this and are acting like kids... they should actually get back to school and stick with ADOR and believe in themselves more instead of fighting for MHJ and let that woman fight her own battles rather than making these 5 young girls her shield and messing their lives and career completely.
ADOR is not an educational institution. It is a profit making corporation. Under 18's cannot be bound to a contract, and can choose their life.
I think this is fair for Ador. If NJ wants to make such a massive statement, action needs to be taken. I even think NJ should be accountable for any financial losses made by their statement as decided by the court
Ok. Let's look at the facts (again).
1. THIS ALL STARTED when MHJ started asking questions about whether Hybe had copied NJ for Illit. Later revelations showed that Illit's concept/promotion plan was at least partially lifted, almost directly, from Min's concept documents.
2. When Min kept asking questions, Hybe went ballistic and started digging to find anything they could use, coming up with a lot of bullshit accusation like Embezzlment that the courts tossed out and later in a seperate ruling said she could stay as Ador CEO.
3. When this didn't work, Hybe fired the two pro-Min board members and replaced them with puppets who did fire Min. Then Hybe disingeniously said they couldn't do anything about it because it was the board that fired Min. Talk about chuzpah.
4. During the Assembly's hearing with the sacrificial head of Be:lift (sent when Fat Asshole Bang ignored appearing), it was revealed that a "Market Research" report contained derogatory remarks not only about New Jeans, but apparently slanderiing a good number of other groups as well. Although claiming it was just gossip from other sources that was included, Hybe terminated the market report and fired the executive in charge of it. Remember too that only a small portion of the report was made public, so you have to wonder what was in those sequestered pages. We've also learned that there was an internal chat room for Hybe employees and that many of them were slandering NJ in it without any warning or pushback from the company that this was unacceptable, leading to the conclusion Hybe was more than happy to create a toxic environment for the group in the hopes of pressuring them to back off.
5. Hanni's assertion that she was disrespected was made WITHOUT identifying the group. It was Hybe that outed Illit as the group and dragged them into the fight. Remember that Fat Asshole Bang has consistently failed to congratulate NJ on their many award wins and sales figures, a standard practice for any company and certainly a sign of standing in status-conscious Korea. Recently, we've also learned that NJ's support staff at their current scheduled events had work and personal equipment taken without reason and parked in rooms, cut off from the girls, where the staff were forced to wait for no reason. You also have to note that the current CEO of Ador, an HR specialist for heaven's sake, told Hanni there was no proof of her assertions without making any effort to investigate. Yet, when Hanni went public, suddenly they started investigating. It should also be noted that the hearings brought out the fact that "Contract workers," like Idols, do not share the same anti-harrassment protections that ordinary workers have, and that "Hanni's Law" protecting all workers, regardless of their employment status, will be protected.
6. Hybe keeps crying they only want the best for NJ and have great plans for them...plans that they've failed to share with the members. Actions speak louder than words, and so far Hybe's words are just that, gauzy protestations of innocence, while their actions can be reasonably inferred to show Hybe has every intention of ignoring NJ as much as possible and possibly even disbanding them once things die down.
7. I'm really tired of hearing the "No one will want to work with them" line. They're a best-selliing, chart-topping, award-winning group still with a huge fanbase. They've never been accused of not fulfilling their professional obligations. Many Idols have also shown their support for the girls and there are reports that some agencies have already reached out to NJ, with Jennie (now the head of OA and openly looking for talent) showing love and friendship for the girls. Considering the past fights many Idols have had with their agencies, who do you think most creatives are going to side with? The members are a hot property and will have no trouble finding a new home when they leave Hybe, nor will they have problems bringing Min with them. She's a two-decade vet of the business with multiple achievements to her name. She probably knows everyone in the business and they know her. Hybe has also never accused Min of not fulfilling her professional obligations with NJ and indeed made a (bullshit) offer to let her continue as creative director/manager of the group, begging the never-answered question of why she's fit to be the CD but not the CEO?
8. Regarding NJ's contract. HYBE SIGNED THE CONTRACT WITH THE UNILATERAL TERMINATION CLAUSE. They didn't protest it then because they thought (I'm assuming) that NJ would never have cause or the guts to use it. Now Hybe is suddenly saying a clause in A CONTRACT THEY AGREED TO is invalid.
In the end, it's going to boil down to whether NJ can show Hybe has deliberately mismanaged them. I believe they have a strong case and will win in the end.
I stand with MHJ and NJ. Hybe is a dirty company and they will lose...
What they didn't realize is that court decisions are universal, meaning, if one court decides on something, then other courts will base this court's decision on their own, meaning, this would legalize pirating of artists who are under contract, to be pirated by the highest bidder.
There is the risk of losing investors, Kpop would be seen as a unstable high risk investment that doesn't attract many.
Im a newjeans fans but, there's really nothing i can do i just hope nj would actually go back to ador since ador still want to resolve the conflict between them
GAME OVER
Lol envict jeans think contract is pinky promise
😂 I think that’s what they thought
😂😂comments are getting funnier ❤
If they were trying to renegotiate their contact that MIGHT be one thing but just trying to break it is crazy work. Very immature.
Good for ADOR. GOOD for kpop industry. breach of contract by MHJ based on substantial evidence got her terminated. It's not the same for Members of New Jeans. NJ has no evidence beyond their feelings. They are clearly doing the bidding of MHJ. NJ could be in trouble for tampering with other artists too.
If Ador is smart, they will start adding _new_ members to _New_ Jeans to protect their investment in the brand.
Good idea! 😊
It better to make another group. I think Hybe will set target to destroy Min Hee Jin first. New Jeans can be set hiatus or to pay penalty if they work with other party. Ador only got 6% of total Hybe profit.
@@anistardi and in the financial Q4 2024 they were not even included
@@Gveze then the company already broke the contract 🙄 hypocrites
Good idea.
they should do it like this, using fans to get what you want is cringe
Go for it Ador..contract are there for a reason
For goodness sake, what are their parents doing? There’s no way all their parents are unable to reason properly and see that the careers of these kids is going down the drain. I believe they also know how contracts work and I believe they all have some sort of group chat where they voice their opinions and can brainstorm.There’s no way a parent would let their child make this stupid decision and do nothing about it. These parents are the biggest let down. It doesn’t make sense
At least one parent, or someone in their team must have changed their mind because they had to of leaked those texts.
Bro parents??? They complained that hanni lived in a room of cockroches.......as if bts and bp had a 5star hotel room to stay and became this popular🙄
They are from rich backgrounds
Still they didn't take their children back in their trainee days!!!
Their Parent's are just greed for money or mhj did shamanic act on them
@@bluehourtarot oh yeah apart from that one parent. Heard it was haeins uncle……..
@@tinkyy.97 this is so sad… it’s beyond sad actually. Their greed has ruined those girls future
Everything NewJeans has done in the past 6 months is premeditated all for MHJ. NewJeans should blame Min Hee Jin or they should blame themselves for signing a contract with Min Hee Jin and ADOR. MHJ persuaded them to sign for her own financial benefit.
Look how professional the new Ador CEO it so sad she deals with unprofessional spoiled bratz nj.
They said they want nothing to do with HYBE whilst still using HYBE's resources and also trying to steal from the company.and defaming the company and bullying the company whilst calling it inhumane.But they are having secret meetings with mother cockroach and lying about it. Crying wolf but talking smack about the company. Pay up and leave or shut up and work!
Minji, Hanni, Danielle, Haerin, and Hyein have earnt millions of dollars of profits for Ador.
@dlat1825 yes as part of the agreement that they have with Ador. They weren't doing the company a favour and it doesn't mean they can do whatever they want does it? Contracts are drawn for a reason.
I dont know they mentioned in their statement that again ADOR failed to defend them by allowing dispatch to post Malicious statement against them.
I dont get it they want Ador to protect them but they themselves mentioned they terminate their contract, they are the one who always says derrogatory words against HYBE and ADOR.. How can someone protect them if they are like that.
Really i want to save this kids from who ever is guiding them in the wrong path… Its better for them to stay silent and let the court decide you have to present proof not just mere words as this doesnt bare much weight in the court. If they lost this one what now…
But why would ADOR get involved ? Do they want to pay Dispatch to silence them? What ever Dispatch stated they presented proof so what can ADOR do? Plus like you said they want nothing to do with HYBE and they “terminated” their contract already so why should ADOR get involved and protect them since according to them they are no longer part of ADOR right
How protect them after they and Mama Roach bad mouthed these other girl groups. Mama Roach started all this, but they can't see her responsibility for the main cause of all this in the first place.
wow I guess millions of people around the world with legally binding contracts and are TRULY unfairly treated should just follow the NJ way of WHINE and DASH. The reason why you don't see this happening is because there are legal/financial consequences.
Yes. This is how contract law works. It cannot be unfair, especially when an contracting party is under 18.
Newjeans members are kinda greedy and egoistic somehow if they want to leave this company when their contract is still valid they should pay their termination fees also they think their evidence of workplace harassment case would be covered to pay their contract termination fees toward their company. That's all because they follow and obey the rules and strategy of this toxic woman. If they have confidence in their skill and their star qualities, they should not be afraid of the outcome regardless of how many levels of production and management change.
I can’t imagine this is going to go over well with future business dealings. If they aren’t willing to abide by the contract they signed in this situation, they could pull this move with future contracts. And who wants to deal with a mess like this?
Minji, Hanni, Danielle, Haerin, and Hyein have earnt millions of dollars of profits for Ador. Of course they are valuable. Ador is a shell company - a method of accounting.
@@dlat1825gurl your comments are all over the place with the same narrative 😭 botbunnies are here
i stand by hybe and ador!!! this girls are shamelesss. they will never be who they are right now if not for hybe to give them a chance to debut. after using the company resources now they want out???!!! how ungrateful they are .. they are so stupid to believe that their shaman greedy manager, now director and script writer of their act is good to them . they are being use as sheild....
first i find them so innocent and nice after that crocodile tears act, im so disgusted. a little fame they already acted like this. i hope they get to pay all the trouble they cause on ador and hybe.
Welp, That's what happens when you follow your heart but forgetting to bring your brain
Boom!! Finally ! Someone has to tell NJ that they can’t go as they please! And they know they screwed up and now have to WORK even harder under the contract ! ADOR and HYBE win and I wish for the winner to take it all !!!!
The girls will either come to their senses now or suffer the consequences of their own actions. Hear me when I say, MHJ will no doubt bring them down and in the K-POP industry- this could ruin their careers. 🔊🔊
I would like to think that bunnies supporting newjeans actions lately aren't in the age of working in a corporate world. Because I can never imagine a person who knew what a contract is saying newjeans are doing the right thing here. though what you feel is important, but contract is a commitment and once you sign it you agree to anything it says you are responsible for that. The parents for sure knew read the contract before debut I don't get why they play dumb here.
Then let me explain. All corporations, and all contracts are subordinate to law. No person can be forced to work. Minji, Hanni, Danielle, Haerin, and Hyein have earnt millions of dollars of profits for Ador, so Ador have no claim for damages.
HERE WE GO......LET'S SEE HOW THIS PLAYS OUT.
Idk who will win !!! Hybe definitely learned from it. ....But old jeans need to learn now ....
Is hilarious how NJ is claiming now that they have been mistreated! When MIN JEE got caught & been let go as CEO of ADOR? Like why now NJ? oh yes the mistreatment allegations arent about you but MIN JEE! & YOUR TERMS MET? YOU GUYS? YOU MEAN MIN JEEs TERMS? Complete FACTS!!! really unprofessional of NJ to instead of getting all together face to face like professionals to resolve this! No we want even more than other KPOP groups like our mother & parents said! NJ is KPOPs reckoning!
They r brats
Mistreatment issue is just an excuse to leave with MHJ imo. Otherwise they would have already filed a lawsuit against the company with evidences as its been so many months since the drama started.
He did she did they did😛
This is such a misuse of the companies, trust and backing. It completely confuses me how irresponsible and naïve these girls are. Everything I’ve seen has shown that this company has tried to work with these girls and that it’s clearly their decision not to wanna go any further with their own company And violate their own contract. I hope these girls get everything that is coming to them. In addition, even I who would generally be on the side of the employee cannot condone their behavior. There must be some protection for this company to prevent these girls from walking all over them.
If they want to leave, they need to pay. It's as simple as that.
Put the girls in jail for 25 years✊️✊️✊️ Women need to know their place,this is south korea and they need to abide the rules and culture here.
I feel sorry for you. Less than a man to say that! New Jeans all the way! Whoever like his comment is just as dumb as him.
Finally Ador will kick ass! As far as the industry goes they cannot make this a precedent and every other agency is rooting for them (Ador).Those girls trusting MHJ will lose and their reputation in the industry is going to be crap. Nice thinking girls! DUH!
We support Hybe and Ador Mhj and Nwjns are in the wrong with all the drama, accusation, media manipulation and zero evidence. I really hope South Korea legal system isnt biased and give the correct decision on this case people shouldnt be allowed to just bunny uncle their way out of contracts penalty. They xan leave but must be bound by law to pay every dime due for breach of contract and the loss theyve caused hybe. Thus far they havent suffered loss as ador is till promoting them and willing to work with them.
The girls might have been taught by MHJ that just because they have earned a lot in a short period of time, the amount of money that they had brought to the company could buy out their contract.
They want to just leave. Will they return $5m and move out of the luxury apt?
If they're so sure that Hybe has failed to fulfill its side of the contract, then NJ should take it to court and have the court formally dissolve it. It'd be in their interests: what third party is going to contract with them if there's dispute about whether their current contract is still valid or not? Get a formal dissolution from a court so you can get new endorsement deals.
Uneducated, misinformed, and arrogant. and obviously brainwashed by MHJ. they're not even 5 years into their debut yet, basically still newbies in the industry, and already acting like they're untouchables. i was initially rooting for them, but they're just going about this the wrong way. their parents are to blame too. truly unfortunate.
Have them payout the contract and just kick them to the curb whomever they like to be with whatever company and end the drama with them. Let them see the reality of starting without the luxury.
Minji, Hanni, Danielle, Haerin, and Hyein have earnt millions of dollars of profits for Ador, so there can be no claim for damages.
All this time ador havebeen silence cause they didn't wanted to involve any legal proceed they just wanted to settle down this matter by proper discussion with the NJ member's but they're like no we gone do the things which our Greedy momma tell us to do like now face this consequence
Somebody please explain to these juveniles what the word “contract” means.
Tired of their whining and wrong interpretation of their irrational explanations of their self-terminations.
Their reasons have been proven to be untruthful or proofs. Pay your financial contract liabilities and leave.
Contract are subordinate to human rights laws. No contract can force someone to work.
Minji, Hanni, Danielle, Haerin, and Hyein have already earnt millions of dollars of profits for Ador, so there are no civil claims for damages.
Nj needs to just focus on their career and not meddle on adore and mhj disputes in the first place. There is no turning back now.
If NJ leaves, they should pay at least a major part (depending of their money they earned...)
They should pay it all.
@@cyann410 You're right, but I don't remember how much exactly these penalties are, but it is a massive amount...
And even if they are 5 to pay (including the 🧙♀️ ) & working all life-long, I'm not sure they would be able to pay everything...
It’s not just about earnings. Hybe has been paying hundreds of people to support them from day one, getting them stages. Now is the time in a contract when the company starts seeing that money come back and the profits to make it worth it, but now is when they want to leave. The company hasn’t done anything criminal to justify it. I understand why the price would be high. They never acknowledged any of that by offering to pay anything, just zero. Crazy.
@@bluehourtarot Yes, you're right! The whole situation since the beginning of the fight had been completely nuts!!!
I'm so disappointed in NJ, like so many at the beginning, I loved them... And I can't understand how you begins in "oh, we're realising our dream to be idol in the biggest Kr Music Company, following BTS's (2 members at least were" fans"...) steps, to "we hate them, & we don't wanna work with this company anymore, we just trust only our "CEO" "...
@ They were badly influenced right away I guess. She probably told them all the time that without her they are nothing. It’s too bad. I bet there are many young trainees who would love to be given the songs they got.