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Using the Lumix 28-200mm: What it's actually like for video!
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- Опубликовано: 20 фев 2024
- Have you ever wanted a lens that could do it all? I was able to test out the Lumix 28-200mm f4-f7.1 on the Lumix S5iix with only shooting video. I have some thoughts on what I like about this lens and what I don't like about it and who it's perfect for.
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Abnormally excited about this for a variable aperture lens. The size and OIS makes it tempting to replace the 20-60 as the never-take-it-off lens, and swap out to the primes for the "special" shots. For my video use, anyway.
In my area, the money is in corporate events. Which generally has harsh overhead lighting, and the jobs pay really well. In a city like Dallas there’s something going on every day. This is the perfect lens if you shoot with Lumix.
this are all the reasons i love the lumix 14-140 for mft so much. especially for ext. run and gun/ dokumentary. almost like a Camcorder - an "action lens" :)
what i'm really looking forward to are powerzooms..
Great video! Thanks for keeping it to the point. Love the presentation style and you hit the key points. Great stuff!!!
Where versatility is concerned, I go with the 24-105. On an S5II using the 2 crop modes it is effectively a 24-163 in 4k and if extra reach is needed…it’ll hit 325mm in 1080p via pixel/pixel mode. Constant F4 too. IMO…a Swiss Army lens.
That said…I always appreciate seeing you review new lumix offerings. Thanks.
absolutely stick with what's working- i think the main thing about this is the size and how compact it is
You mean APS-C mode? That would turn the lens into a 38 x 168 then, right?
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In 4k…apsc mode is a 1.5 crop and pixel/pixel mode is 1.56 crop.
In 1080…apsc mode is a 1.5 crop and pixel/pixel mode is 3.1 crop.
This makes the possible focal range of this lens/camera combo….24mm(full frame)-325mm(pixel/pixel 1080).
Finally, a good walking around and travel lens for S mount. Too bad about the F4+, but I like the weight/range. Thanks.
Thanks for the video. I received an email from B&H that this dropped about 4 hours ago and I was so hyped. Thank you so much for this! I have a 70-300 and it’s a beast. But it’s heavy! I use it to shoot my son’s lacrosse matches but it doesn’t go anywhere else with me. This on the other hand might be one that could stay on my camera. Thanks again for the video!
We need power zooms, as your video clearly demonstrates!
dude great video! I think you captured the best essence of the lens
thanks man- definitely a fun lens
A 28-200 is a broad range for sure, but this is not something I’d reach for professionally for video. I’m sure folks will go nuts for it as a new kit lens option. But I’d pass. Lumix should follow Canon’s example and give us an L-mount 24-105mm f/2.8 with a power zoom option. Items like that are what folks doing video really need and want.
@@stephjant6461i agree 100%
I totally agree with you JeremyK
Lenses I’d love to see most from lumix : 10-100 f4 PZ a d 8-25 f4 PZ for micro four thirds.
This zoom range is quite ideal for working in factual TV or documentary. The variable aperture - not so ideal, but understandable.
People whining about shooting video on f/7.1 out at 200mm clearly haven’t shot at 200mm before. Stick the numbers into any focus calculator… you do not want to be shooting video any lower than f/7, otherwise your depth of field becomes ridiculously and unusably thin. Photography is a different matter.
I like to see lenses like this honestly. I bet it does pretty well with landscape photography as a walk around lens with acceptable quality. This is why I like my Fuji XF 18-120 f/4 for video so much. Great lens with the latest firmware updates for fuji shooters.
HA! I just committed to my g9ii and this is a lens that definitely makes me rethink things. I missed my tamron 28-200 when I ditched sony to come back to lumix. (really happy to be back and I love the g9ii). A lens like this really starts to complicate the choice between a g9ii and s5ii. Adding this to your full frame kit gives you a way to stay ultra light when that is what you need. I love MFT for its lightweight versatility, but these days it's really only the telephoto end where it makes a difference and I could see travelling with just this 28-200 and a favourite prime. I'd miss my super long telephoto MFT lenses, but I don't bring those travelling most of the time anyway. I'm hoping to add a s5ii to my kit at some point, but with this lens I start to wonder when I would reach for my MFT set up except for wildlife. Either way, love the g9ii and love what lumix is doing with the Lmount lenses.
Looks like a cool option!
Good choice of Lens !
To bad they didn't make it like the Tamron 28-200mm f/2.8-5.6 lens. That f7.1 is a bummer. I shoot all the time f5.6 when filming.
5.6 or 7.1 dont really matter.
@@castielvargastv7931 Sure it does. It is a half stop difference. When lighting a scene a half stop can make all the difference in the world. I usually have my maximum at 5.6. I mainly shoot between F4.0 and f5.6 when filming. All the DP's I know shoot at that also. This lens is designed for photography not video. Panasonic Primes are more video oriented along with photography.
@@RobertJohnPhotography ah thank you for reply. I film at 4.0-5.6 as well it gives the best look in my eyes.
@@RobertJohnPhotographyexiste el iso. Si tienes una buena cámara que permita trabajar a isos altos no hay problema.
such a good review! whats that wireless you are using?
I notice focus breeding in evening light before and after sun go down. And 200mm the AF get stuck, need pull back below 150 to pickup focus again. Daylight is good. Handheld is fantastic for video also 200mm or APS-C mode, great stabilized.
Glad to see Lumix put out more lenses like this. This pretty much replaces the m43 option Olympus 12-100mm f/4 (24-200 f/8) for people who want FF.
I have both Lumix S5II, S5 and MFT OM Systems cameras. I’m taking the 12-100mm f/4 IS PRO over this hands down. The 12-100 is a really nice, super versatile lens.
@@jeremykishminatrea1892 Interesting, what's your reason for that? I tried it out, but I don't own M43 at the moment. It was pleasant to use.
However, Panasonic's pricing on the G9ii makes the S5ii a no brainer. They cost the exact same price. Not sure what Panasonic is thinking when the sensor is 1/4 the size. It should cost $1100 max.
JIP's OM-1 mark2 (aka Firmware update) also means I'm never buying OM Systems products. I will get an Olympus at some point just for keepsake (I have the OM-1 film SLR), but it will be the OM-1 mk1 which was still designed by Olympus not JIP.
Could you give me a reason to still opt for the Oly 12-100 when this 28-200 exists?
Love the tamron version. Basically a 28-75 2.8-F4 + 75-200 F4.5-5.6.
The huge range is attractive, but yeah it doesn't feel like a kind of lens I'm going to upgrade to. At this point when I get a telephoto zoom, I think I want it to be pretty nice. Though... It IS small... Thanks for the video
But would you trade in the Lumix 24-105 F4 for this lens? A little off-topic maybe but in what situations do you use that rig? For handheld work it seems way too heavy and very hard to hold steady. The only rig I have ever used is a shoulder rig but for walking around I prefer the camera pressed against my eye because it's the lightest and most stable. Curious to hear your thoughts.
Here is a 4K video of what the 28-200mm lens can do handheld on the Lumix S9 with hybrid zoom (including a full zoom from 28-293mm in one clip), with no wasted clips of someone talking - just labeled shots at 28mm and 293mm and in-between: ruclips.net/video/2v3BBeAcxb8/видео.htmlsi=ud-zpryse81p_5yY
im using a monitor but notice theres some lag with my lumix s5iix do you know what the issue could be? using kondor blue cable
It's an Outdoor Lens :) great for Hobby and vacation Videos.
Not every video styles benefit from short dof : I hate seeing documentaries shot in full frame f2.8… we need to see more…
Now, I’d rather have a m43 fast sensor on a f4 lens, than a FF slow sensor on a f8 lens… for documentary where I’ll be shooting from cars, walking, action… I a happy trading one stop of dynamic range for less rolling shutter.
Long live to micro four thirds !
Should be very good for landscapes especially longer hikes, mostly you would be shooting at f8+ anyway so the slow doesn't matter.
Looks so lite!Suppose could set body to 7.1 constant and vnd then bump iso 6400 in daylight for video w some nr in post to keep from stepping or stopping during zoom?! Tempting🎉.Thank You
that's a great idea
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Amazing lens…I wish I had use for everything LUMIX is churning out!
some great tech coming out for sure
the sony rx10iv has better image quality than full frame cameras with approx 24-200mm zoom lens attached. has this lens managed to break that barrier and actually bring increased image quality?
I like this lens a lot. This is basically an MFT or APSC lens in term of size and weight, but it's made for full frame sensor.
This lens might be hated now, but give it some time, people will realize how great it is to have such compact zoom lens for full frame camera. Especially when you come from MFT or APSC world.
Hay mucha gente muy quisquillosa…. Igual si en vez de hablar tanto utilizaran las cosas…
How about shooting sports. Getting closer shots of certain player on the field?
yeah i definitely think it would work well in sports with that 200mm
@@CalebHoover thanks. That’s what I thought as well. Thanks so much for the video. I think you pushed me to go finally get it.
weird choice of 7.1, but this is a killer kit lens. I prefer the 20-60, but this looks sweet
@@stephjant6461 if it was maximum 5.6 or 6.3 and heavier I would’ve personally preferred that, but I agree you can’t get as small and light without that aperture compromise.
Like I said, great kit lens
The great part about filiming outside in South Dakota is that no one lives here so it's rare for someone to get into your frame.
You mentioned and showed the smooth transition between apertures when zooming. How do you keep a consistent exposure if you're zooming from 28mm f.4 to 200 f 7.1 if your shutter and iso are fixed (which it should be if you're shooting video, right?). If you're shooting video on aperture priority, some other exposure setting needs to be set to automatically change. Or are you keeping aperture fixed at 7.1 throughout the zoom range? I'm a still shooter and am trying to learn the differences to take into account when shooting video. Thanks in advannce!
Normalmente alguien que se dedica a grabar vídeos lo que hace es optar por una focal, expone y graba. De esa forma obtiene el plano que necesita. Y vuelve a poner una nueva focal, expone, y graba de nuevo. No suele ser normal hacer uso en un vídeo del zoom.
It's interesting that being a MFT manufacturer that Lumix seems to be trying to create competition against itself for lightweight lenses. If they could apply the same principles and get even lighter mft lenses
Do you guys think they will lower the price a bit?
I'm such a video nerd that idc what a video is about, if it's shot in 4:3 open gate, I'm watching!
haha for sure- except this is 3:2 ratio 6K open gate haha- thanks for watching!
@@CalebHoover I thought you might say that. I'm been working with the GH5 which I believe does 4:3 open gate 6k not 3:2 which may be why I misspoke but I could be wrong.. either way, I dig it. Thanks for another great video brother
@@Zack-Hates-RUclips this lens is for a full-frame camera so the aspect ratio is 3:2 not 4:3 like the micro four thirds cameras!
@@FigleyCreative ah I knew it was something like that!
@@Zack-Hates-RUclips nice! love it! haha i definitely wasn't trying to correct you- i was just nerding out and love the fact that you noticed the aspect ratio
Amazing how tiny this lens is!
Very cool lense for full frame but mft users are not impressed. I use my 14-140 (28-280)since 2018
On the FF S9, you can use this lens shooting 4K and get 28-300mm using hybrid zoom with no resolution loss!
Impressed now?
The 200 end is some what limiting …..I.e. isolation shots etc.
It’s so so small! 🤯
I'lll have one please Piotr
This lens is not available in the USA yet. I've tried to buy it and no one has it.
Available now.
that is ALOT of zoom and i could def see it being fun lol
How its doing in low light?
with the dual native iso on the s5iix you should be fine
@@CalebHoover Not able yet to buy the lens local, are you able possible do short low light test video?
lumix pliz do f2.8 :S
The smallest and lightest 28-200mmm (or "superzoom") MIRORLESS full frame lens. The Nikon 28-200g for F mount weighs only 360g
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1.65 slower than a 24-105 mm at 105 mm.
I think this is more of a travel/landscape photography lens.
The only positives of the lens are its small size and weight. Everything else is not even worth discussing.
If Panasonic is seriously interested, AND BECAUSE IT FOCUSES ON WEIGHT AND SMALL DIMENSIONS, a suggestion would be: zoom 20-70, f2.8.
For now, I'm happy with the 24-105 f4.
But like, is it actually like that?
F7.1, ouch
Imagine how dark it would be at 7.1. Not good
Perfect. For. Hobbyists!
Its good for travel photographers, but for video it sucks 😢
Bruh your audio is so Crispy