E46 Multifunction Steering Wheel Retrofit DIY Guide with Radio and Cruise Control Buttons
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- Опубликовано: 10 дек 2019
- Detailed guide for retrofitting multifunction (MFL) steering wheel with radio and cruise control / tempomat buttons on an E46 BMW with N42 engine.
This guide will also work for other 3 series E46 BMW: 316i, 318i, 318Ci, 320i, 325i, 330i, 316ti, 318ti, 325ti with M54 or N42 or N46 engine.
M43B19 BOSCH M5.2: Cruise control retrofit needed
N42B18/N42B20 BOSCH M9.2: 27 E Data link MFL (40-pin connector, black)
N46B18/N46B20 BOSCH MEV9: 4 E Data link MFL (26-pin connector, black)
M52B20/M52B25/M52B25 SIEMENS MS41: Cruise control system retrofit needed
M52TUB20/M52TUB25/M52TUB28 SIEMENS MS42: 27 E Data link MFL (40-pin connector, black)
M54B22/M54B25/M54B30 SIEMENS MS43: 27 E Data link MFL
This guide also shows how to remove and install steering wheel airbag.
Links & part numbers:
- multi function steering wheel buttons: 61316949754 (61316903397, 61316940139) eBay search: www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from...
- MFL wiring kit: www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from...
- parts catalogue: www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/part...
- service manual & wiring diagrams: www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/e4...
- trim removal tools; eBay search: www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from...
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Have questions? Comment below and I'll do my best to answer.
before the installation did you have the cruise control buttons anywhere in car, or you couldnt turn it on at all?
@@gabeitch1487 No, i did not have any existing cruise controlls. You only need to retrofit the buttons on the steering wheel and it will work. All E46 have electronic throttle controll so you dont need to recode the car or add any additional hardware, only buttons and 3 wires.
@@BimmerZen thx a lot!
Do i have yo buy those specific wires or i can use any wiring i have?
so this wont work on bmw e46 2000 year, 100kw/136hp M47 engine ?
Best tutorial so far , it looks so simple now
Great video I really enjoyed you detailed and thorough description of the work. I have the same car as you in the UK, mine is a 318Ti. I already have the extra buttons but I enjoyed your video just the same. Funnily enough my dog watched the video with me and he is very similar to yours. He even barked hello.
I've installed the multifunction panel and everything is working.
Thanks for guide 👍🏿
Worked like a charm on my 328. Thanks alot for the video!
Wanted to add that the 328 uses M52 engine, so it works for that engine as well!
Hey its been a while but did you get Cruise control aswell?
Thank you mate, great video. I followed the every step and now it works. Great job!
You explained everything. I had no trouble putting this together 👍
Thanks for you video/tutorial, my English is not so good, but I understand 90%, from wath you sayd , and you video is clearly, thanks from Belgium 👌❤
Thank you very much! I've just done this to my e46.
You’re an amaizing teacher ! Thanks a lot for the quality of this tuto…
Thank you for going into so much detail! No excuse for me not to do it now :)
Did on my car today and works perfectly 👍👍. i used wires, that have been used before and found some pins from diffrent plugs laying around, so it costed nothing 😄
Great video, realy helped a lot, because i wanted my multi work for soo long. Thank you 🤘
Great to hear that:) Sounds like a good DIY job!
what was the connector you use for the end of the wires that goes into the green plug? looking to do the same but cant seem to find that exact square plug most MFL kits come with
Brilliant video and explanation!
This is best video I watched it for cars, amazing, really good job. Big like 👍
Thank you so much I’ve ordered this and have been wanting to make my buttons work ever since I bought a new steering wheel. The best and easiest tutorial to follow I love you❤
Very good video, keep it like this! Just bought a new e46 that had the M sport wheel with the Buttons but the buttons doesnt work:( but now i should definitely fix it! Thanks a lot! Btw great you show everything you do and how to, make it very easy to follow!:)
Thank you, I got mine setup today using this video. It was perfect installation.
Works on bmw e46 n42b20 confirmed!
Thank you for tutorial!!!
Great video. Good work 👍
Awesome tutorial, thank you! I just got a multifunction sport wheel for my e46 since i absolutely NEED cruise control😅.
Love your channel, love my troublemaker e46 compact :)))
I have mine for almost 9 year now... I just can't let it go now:)
What an amazing tutorial ! World need more people like you :D Pet your dog for me, what a cutie, thanks
Works on the E46 150cv M47 engine , just did it and its perfect. thanks man.
The BMW dealer here in Lisbon wanted 350 eur to do it. did it for a fraction
Olá amigo, tenho um E46 Coupé de 2000, é um 316CI, achas que será possível fazer isto no meu? visto que o meu motor e dos mais "fracos" não sei se é possível e sequer tenho a instalação elétrica para tal :/
It should work on all E46s
The dog pet got my love. Best tutorial on youtube!! :)
Too bad she is no longer with us... I miss her🥲
excellent vido man ! you are smart !
Zelo dobro, hvala.
Great, good job
I LOVE YOU BEST TOTURIAL EVER
Good Man love dogs❤ Hello from Poland😊
thank you
nice! the link you put in description is broken but i bought one of these:
My doesn’t works, i suspect about the steering controls, n42 316 sedan 2004 I think swap it is easy than add it but far so good channel bro. Love it!
Hey I have question. I have a 323ci 1999. It doesn't have the multifunctional buttons on the wheel, neither do I have a handle for cruisecontrol. Do you think it would be like this for me as well or would I need to do a lot more to get it fully working?
Holly *** I just got an e46 with swapped m54 in it and it has a multi-function wheel which does not work. I'm gonna bookmark your video and try! Thanks for your info dude!
Hello. Amazing tutorial. Just a question you may know. Will it work on e39 bmw?
thanks
Can you tell me how I can find the wire for controller wheel from my radio side for BMW e46 2000?
Hey guys!
I did this DIY and after connecting the wires to the steering colimn connector and light switch my dashboard started working wierdly. Turn indicators and high beam works fine, but not displayed on the dashboard. Heating/AC not working, atleast it is not blowing air.
Disconnecting the multifunctional buttons did not help.
Any ideas?
Hi, can you guide me a bit about Velocity control feature that you mentioned in the video
Just finished installing the multifunction steering wheel retrofit but the cruise control dose not work on my e46 any clues that will fix my issue, thanks
Hi, does it differ on the e46 320d non facelift? Because I did all the steps and it does not work :(
Nice 🥰🥰🥰🥰
I need the kit kindly but cant get it on ebay. My steering is 4 spoke but I wanna convert to multifunctional 3 poke.
Nice tutorial, I will definitely try this out on my e46. One quick question, will this retrofit enable the cruise control on my car? At the moment I don't have any cruise control stick or button.
It will work in most cases, check description for more info if your car is compatible.
Hello, a couple of years ago a thief stole the radio (a pioneer one) i had and cut all the wire. I've bought a new one with android and it works fine with all the new wiring i made but i don't know where is the canbus cable.
On the steering while the cruise control works just fine, but i'd like to be able to use the volume buttons too. Do you have any tips?
Hi thank you for the video. I have a 323ci convertible. Will this also work with this model even if it doesn’t have cruise Control?
Yes, it should work. Your car has MS42 ecu which has the 27 pin for cruise controll.
Hi, many thanks for the video, very informative indeed. can I request you to put up a link for the steering wheel trim or what exactly it is called to s that I can look up on e-bay or amazon? Also can you please put up the link for the tools as well it will really help and save a lot of time. Appreciate your help in anticipation.
There is no specific link, but if you search google or eBay for "BMW e46 multifunction steering wheel buttons" or "car trim removal tools" you should find what you need.
Hi i like your video, i wish can make also to may streering wheels. But i have question where you buy the MFL ADAPTER..
You mean the wires kit? If you searh ebay you shoul find some options
I do what you do step by step but on my car the buttons are working only with the headlights on and the lighting is unstable like pulsing. I have the same engine with you and its automatic to. Can you help me please? Sorry for my english.
The cruise control Signal does not light up on the panel when I Press the button But the volume controls and Channel shift Works alright with exception of the Bluetooth button and cruise control button
Does work for M52 engine? 320CI 1999 e46
I followed the link for the FL wiring. Looks they're out of stock.
I'm getting a multi function trim panel and would really need those wires.
If you search ebay for "bmw e46 multi function mfl wires" you should find plenty of options.
Can radio commands work without any wiring? I mean just putting the cable into right empty spot behind airbag. Or wiring is necessary?
Also have that question, I have a basic 316CI... don't know If I have anything eletric cable related "up to date" from some more "modern" E46s...
hi there, i have e85 z4 without a multifunctional steering wheel and im interested in purchasing one with the multifunctioing buttons. However im not sure if it will work. Do you know what that cable with the various colours that makes the steering wheel work called?
From what i have seen on the internets, it should be similar procedure. You have to use 2 wires and connect the slip ring to the light switch box. The e85 have separate stalk for cruise controll, so there is no third wire. I think the OEM code for this cable is 61120394848. Just search for "e85 multifunction retrofit cable"...
z4-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16422
Where can I get the kit and would it would the wires be the same for a 2005 coupe
Hi mate, this is more than helpful video ... I'm in the trouble here in New Zealand to find this MLF kit,can you tell me where can i order it from
Search ebay for "Retrofit Kit Multi Function Steering Wheel Mfl Adapter Cable Buttons for BMW E46" or something similar and I'm sure you can find something...
Hello champ
Please i need your help
I have e46 2000 m43 enggine without electric throttle
So if i change the throttle wire to electric can i use like this too ?
Please help me
Thank you so much
Hello bimmerZen! I just bought a bmw 525i e39 m-paket. I have a problem with it. At 47:03 my cruisecontrolwill turn on if i press it. But when im driving it doesnt go on if i press it.
Do you have any idea what the problem could be?
After you press the I/O button, you have to press the + one to set the speed. It won't engage below a certain speed (can't recall the exact one)
So the connection to the wires for the multifunctions comes pre installed from the factory? You just need to buy the multifunctional buttons? If so do you know if the E39 is the same, thanks!
As in the video; you will need to install 3 wires
I have n42b18 e46 316i
Which pin i have to connect in the light module
Great instructions, but I have a question. They gave these instructions the same for the BMW e46 320d 2003. The cruise control works for me but the radio commands do not. Thank you!
They should. Check all wires and connections. Check that you connected the two wires going to the light switch correctly.
Thank you
Hello, so i ordered buttons for my steering wheel, and the same wires and connectors you used. I did everything as you, step by step.. But nothing works, neither the buttons for radio nor cruise control (because I dont have electronic gas pedal so no worries there). Only thing that does work is lights of buttons light up orange like everything when turning on the lights.. I have E46 Coupe 2001 87kW 2001 with M43B19 engine.
i have the same problem... did you solve yours?
Hey bro , one question.
I have same steering wheel on my e46.
Every time I press the “ volume down “button, but results in next track when I listen to the radio.
What might went wrong on my media control?
Thanks in advance.
Sorry, I don't know what your issue is. I would check that the wiring on the slip ring connector inside the steering wheel is correct (ruclips.net/video/eD3j1VFM-dY/видео.html). Maybe some pins are mixed up...
how to make it work with competition wheel with i/o button and paddle shifters???
Sorry, don't know that:(
On my bmw e39 facelift m54 engine my LCM is located on passenger side under glovebox and it looks similar to the e46, but on pin27 there is no cable and on pin21 there is one but not same color. I do have same wire colors but on another pin number, should I use those with same color? I have connected the cable on pin27 in the ECU but CC won’t work, or Does it work whenever I connect the two other cables to LCM?
Sorry, I'm not sure about the E39...
Hello, i have a 1999 318i M43 1.9 liter 87kw / 118hp. Would that work on my car? Thanks for your answer.
I think you have the BMS 46 ECU which does not support this mod. M43 models have separate cruise control unit... You would need to install this kit: www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/showparts?id=AL31-EUR-12-1999-E46-BMW-318i&diagId=66_0043
You can check in the ECU box in the front if you already have the cruise controll unit: www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/e46-318i-lim/components-connectors/components/a-control-units-modules/a8-control-unit-cruise-control/W9t6H3x
Great video! Is there a difference between part numbers 6753963 and the one in ur video 6760659? Thanks
Your PN references a steering wheel:
For vehicles with
Interior trim finishers, matt chrome
S439A=Yes
01 Airbag sport st. whl. lthr multifunction SCHWARZ/CHROM
Parts catalogue also states that:
Cover panels for wooden and aluminium
sports
steering wheels do not fit on sports
steering wheels with plastic covers and
vice versa.
If you are just replacing the complete steering wheel it should fit. All upper covers with buttons fit on all E46 3 spoke sports steering wheels. But not all lower covers fit on all steering wheels.
hi BimmerZen, i was succesful at installing all commands and it all worked, i changed the airbag with a new one with the same shape and make sure all the connections were snug and tidy and i worked always with the disconected battery, but i get the airbag light on... i'm soooo afraid that the thing could explode on me... another thing is that while i'm try to remove the cluster to repair the clock the daylights turn on, is it normal? please help... i'm getting obsece with the thing...
thanks
Did you turn on the ignition on to test before you installed the airbag? If so, error will be stored in the ECU and airbag light will turn on until you reset the code.
Hi,, where can i get that MFL wiring?
hi i have a bmw e46 318ci n42 11/2001 prod.
will need wiring ? becuase i have heard that bmw that is after 2001 is plug and play?
You will need the wiring kit; 3 wires and pins that fit in to the steering wheel connector
Hi @BimmerZen I am trying to buy the wires online but I cannot find it and the link in description I think is too old so it goes to the general parts page. Can you please help me with the link for the wires my E46 is touring 2005 316i
Also my DMZ is different I had to blug it in pin no 4 following this ruclips.net/video/lNthq6kOZS8/видео.htmlsi=JK_lc50z-Y5BKbiB
On the 11th min my DMZ is exactly like the one on the car in the provided link 2005 e46
🇹🇷 I have no idea where the mfl adapter is from in Turkey.🇹🇷
Hi. I have question. My car e46 318i m43 engine. Its the multifunction steering suitable to my car? My car dont came with no multifunction steering.
M43B19 BOSCH M5.2: Cruise control retrofit needed (www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/showparts?id=AL31-EUR-04-1998-E46-BMW-318i&diagId=66_0043)
Could you make a tutorial for autodim rear view mirror ?
Hi! To be honest it's unlikely, but interesting idea for the future:)
Does it work on 2004 e46 318i N46 engine., and are the pins to connect similar
Sorry for late reply, YT is not sending me all of notification about new comments:(
N46 engine has different ECU, but it should still work. The wiring diagram shows MFL connection on pin 4: www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/e46-318i-lim/components-connectors/components/a-control-units-modules/a6000-control-unit-digital-motor-elecronics7/YZn5ycy
on X60002 connector: www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/e46-318i-lim/components-connectors/plug-in-comb-type-solder-connectors/connectors-from-x6/x60002-connector-control-unit-dme/VWzkZSv
@@BimmerZen many thanks for your video and for this specific reply on the N46 engine. If I hadn't read it I would certainly have put the MFL connector in the wrong position! 😉
@@BimmerZen EDIT: pin 4 on my N46 was already in use, it works smoothly on pin 27
Congratulation..
Very good job..
Thanks a lottttt.
Bravooo.
Search in Aliexpress for...
"Interior Panel Fixing Buckle for BMW E46 / E65 / E66 / E83N Dashboard Dash Trim Strip Clips Red Insert Grommets"
Tnx! I already replaced the clip, but maybe somebody else will find it useful to know what to search for!
@@BimmerZen sorry...
My egglish is bad..
I am self learned.
But I think many people they will understand
How can i connect multifuctional wheel in bmw e39?
Hi, Will it work on my M43 1998 motor ? I saw manual where guy need to add stepper motor And control throttle. M50+ motors have this parts alredy prepared from factory ?
I think You can not just install the multi-function steering wheel. You will need the servomotor retrofit. I don't know about the M50 engines...
@@BimmerZen i read any forums And i think they add El throttle from 2000+. But need to check IT when i come home tonight. But ty for response.
Hey i need you help please! I have a late 2004 318ci and i dont know if i can retrofit this mod. Can you help me?
You can
I have a question. My bmw is year 1999 , will this work as well? Because all of the MFL wiring kit that i can find comes with only 2 wires, not 3, so im a little confused by that.
Exact model and production month/year?
@@BimmerZen its an e46 pfl. production year is 1999. and the month is 9, if not mistaken
@@BimmerZen 323i with the m52b25 engine
@@davispupols2984 from what i can understand the 323i with the M52TU engines come with a drive by cable/bowden throttle controll, but they still have electronically controlled throttle. This means you should be able to retrofit MF steering wheel, but you must still have 3 cables: two go to light switch and one goes to the DME unit at the front. You should be able to find some useful forum posts if you google multifunction retrofit for your car model.
Will cruise control work if I use non original radio? I know it is not possible for multifunction buttons, but I would like to try to connect cruise control.
I'm not 100% sure, but I think cruise control should work just fine. I think radio commands are just ignored if you have a custom radio.
BimmerZen thanks bro!
Amazing tutorial...
Will it work on my 320ci with M54B22 engine?
Yes, check description.
@@BimmerZen thanks 🙏 please could you put an updated link? The One on description is broken
i need MFL wiring kit please i can not find it
hi, can you help my to find the problem? I wisited 4 mechanics no one found the problem.... fault codes: 2DB4, 2A6B, 2A67, 2B62, 2F9E. sometimes dash board shows EML fault and e46 gos to limp mode do you know where I can find problem by this codes?
bmw e46 318i N46B20A
is this the same procedure for E46 Sedan 2004 N46 engine? especially the ecu cable part
Yes: www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/e46-316ti-com/components-connectors/components/a-control-units-modules/a6000-control-unit-digital-motor-elecronics3/YZn5ycy
Pin 4 on connector X60002 (26-pin, black): www.newtis.info/tisv2/obj/CULJXaO7
@@BimmerZen what is the specification for the wires? (Awg,diameter,etc)
@@AldoSoeprayogi That i do not know. Any normal quality soft braided 0.75m2 copper wire should work fine
You didn't mention the switches on the brake and clutch pedals... what about R/T and talking guy buttons? On my e39 I have factory installed cruise control but no R/T and talking guy, I put a complete panel but unfortunately is not working...
Sorry, I don't know what you mean with the clutch and break pedal... I don't know if this works on E39 and I never looked in to the R/T functions. I assume you need some other hardware like microphone and phone to make that work.
@@BimmerZen R/T have to act like Mode button circles through Radio/CD/Tape/Phone - like a source selector. The talking head button normally will work if you have the phone module (witch I don't have). About cruise control - when you hit the brake or the clutch the function is suspended, the green light remains on the ike but will only resume to the selected speed if you press again the button on the steering wheel. Test if it does like that - press the brake or the clutch and see if the speed is decreasing if so press again the button to see if the car is gaining again speed and stays at the selected speed. The I/O button shuts ON or OFF the entire system. There are 2 switches at e39 that triggers the suspend state - i guess the same should be at e46
@@florinlepadatu5648 Yes, the E46 already has those switches on the clutch and brake pedals, so the cruise control function just piggy backs of those and disables the cruise control if you press them.
I have a BMW e46 323ci (m52tub25 ms42).
Does it work with this?
Yes: M52TUB20/B25/B28 SIEMENS MS42: 27 E Data link MFL
🇹🇷Mfl adapter nereden bulabilirim 🇹🇷
Question: My Radio buttons are not working. This is only specific to me most likely; because i didnt have connectors on the radio so i wired every one of the cables myself for my new android head unit. It works but steering wheel buttons doesnt work on it. Because i dont know which cable to use to connect Android's steering wheel control cable. So most likely i need diagram for that. Could you help me out?
I have no experience with aftermarket radio units, so I doubt I can help you. You need diagram for the light switch?
@@BimmerZen thank you for the reply anyhow 🙂
I need diagram of steering wheel controls to head unit wiring diagram.
Hi! Will this work on a 2006 M3 CS? I'd love to have radio controls on steering wheel.
Yes. MSS54 ECU has pin 27 for MFL on X60004 (40 pin) connector.
@@BimmerZen Thanks!
but the i/o controls M sport mode on the cs wheel... instead of turning cruise control on or off. How will it operate in this instance?
I need only cruise control, dont need radio buttons. We need only pass a blue wire to the ecu box whrite?
Yes.
@@BimmerZen thanks, i go try pass only a blue wire, i hope work.
i did everything but for me radio doesn't work,could it be because its not orginal radio?
Could be, I'm not sure how it works with aftermarket radios...
Hi!I have a music control on my multifunction steering wheel but my cruise control is not working.If i install these cables should it work?
Depends on the model of your car. If you have N42 or M54 engine, you probably only need the wire that goes to the engine ECU box for the cruise control.
@@BimmerZen mine is m43b19 318ci 118 hp
@@alexanderhristov6526 You will most probably need to retrofit the throttle servo motor. Check out this link: www.e46fanatics.com/threads/bmw-e46-multifunction-steeringwheel-m43-engine.969296/
@@BimmerZen thank you
hi i just did this but everything works fine
just the cruise control does not work
do you now why
Check the wire going to the ECU box. Check for continuity form steering wheel buttons connector to the ecu wire. Check if you used the right pin in the ecu connector.
If i have m43 emgine and just want the radio buttons working and ignore cruise control, will it work somehow?
I'm not 100% sure, but I think the radio controls will work. For the cruise control you need additional cruise control module and some other parts installed: www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/showparts?id=AL11-EUR-01-1999-E46-BMW-316i_19&diagId=66_0043.
@@BimmerZen Thank you! I wonder if just connecting the controls with the steering wheel will do the work for radio. Hmmm. Thank you anyway. awesome video!
@@Greatswordgamers did it work?
Hi what wires size and lenght is this, how can i do it without mfl adapter
did you delete comment for wire size, what was it
@@AladinTechnology I don't know what you mean by "how can i do it without mfl adapter"...? I don't know exact wire length and size, I bought a MFL kit from ebay (link in description). I think 0.50 - 0.75 mm2 on the size and two wires are about 1 m and on that goes to the front ecu box is a bit longer, probably 1.5 m.
Would it work on a e46 318i from 2000?
Yes
I have a 325ti is it possible just changing steering wheel buttons it all works or we always need to do the wiring part ??
Not sure I understand your question... If you are replacing a steering wheel that already has (working) buttons, then it's not necessary to do the wiring (like upgrading to sport steering wheel). If you have a steering wheel without buttons and you are replacing it with a steering wheel with buttons, then you will have to install the wires.
@@BimmerZen sorry for my bad formulation. I mean, I have a steering wheel without buttons. Just to avoid all the pain with cables, I just hope "dream" that all wires maybe are already set up from factory and I only need to replace the steering wheel part ? is that even possible....
@@luisqp66 If the car came from the factory without the multifunction then you will have to install the wires. It's really not that hard to do, i think:)
Finally i tried exactly as your video but ot doesn't work.... I asume problem may be from clamp that doesnt make correct contact or steering wheel boutons parts not working....
Is it possible that the red connectors don't connect properly ?
Will it work on my 2003 Bmw e46 sedan ,with 2.0 143hp with n42b20 Enigine ?
Yes
@@BimmerZen can YOU please send me The diagram on my email ? Filipmunteanu0000@gmail.com ?
Hi there, does this work on a 320d from 2003 150 HP AUTOMATIC transmission?
I think it should work.
ECU's dde30ds0, dde40kw0: 40-pin connector, pin 27
ECU's TU 2001/09 - 2002/02, TU 2002/03 - 2003/02, TU 2003/03+ : 58-pin connector, pin 37
@@BimmerZen thanks for ur answer, im going to try it, awesome content keep going :)