NEW Ranger School Fitness Test in 2024 (RPA 2.0)
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Its official guys, the new Ranger Physical Assessment (RPA 2.0) is in the works and is coming in 2024. The Airborne & Ranger Training Brigade is currently working through the process of trialing and implementing the new test. Although they still have to work out the kinks, this is what you can expect!
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Update below:
I was one of the OCS people. We did a condensed version: 1 mile, 6 chin-ups, 40lbs KB 100m, 10 down up IMTs 100m, sled 90lbs 100m, 1 mile. As you can see half the sled weight and a total of 2 miles. The people that tried and in good shape were about 17-20 minutes.
I’m at pre ranger now and will be doing the full RPA 2.0 on Wednesday so I’ll be back with an update later this week.
UPDATE:
DISCLAIMER, I tracked it on my watch and got a total of 2.93 miles, others were +/- .02. Including the 300m for the KB, IMTs, skedco. Based on my pace and time I’d guess the run was about 2.75 total. We also did it without our tops on. Not sure if that’s standard or to prevent heat cats.
I got mine in 25:20 so it’s doable even if the distance is to standard. Most people sat between 25-27. Skedco was definitely the worst part I would warp it on your waist to use your arms like you would run. Seemed to be the best method. From start of chin-ups to end skedco I was around 4:30 so if you can get it around there that leaves you with about a 7:30 pace between the 3 miles. Hope this helps
Lol yo Dwyer, what’s up? Looks like I might be stuck with this after IBOLC, hopefully TAPC starts pushing our workouts this direction. I hope you make it on this go at Ranger
But ya, I was at this condensed RPA with OCS as well, and it wasn’t super crazy, but honestly, 185 sked drag, with an extra mile at the end. I probably would’ve been dead
Damn we all in the comments here. OCS represent! I did it in about 20 minutes that excludes me waiting for a minute for a sled to open up.
@@walkertollett6281sup. You pass R-cert?
I participated in the event today. We had a 22:00 time in our small group and I was at 23:30. Most passed fairly easily, but granted our group is pretty fit. Doing this pt test went so much faster than an acft and others, and honestly very smoothly considering how many people tested this morning.
Good to know! Thanks for hooking us up with the info! 👊
I can run 3 miles on just below 21 minutes... And that's not considering doing strength. I feel I am very far from achieving a good time on this test jesus.
If you were to run the 3 miles in 24 minutes total (8 min miles now tired and in full ocp) you would have 3 minutes left to do ALL the remaining events. Is this correct? This seems much more difficult to me than 5 miles in 40 minutes after some push ups and sit ups.
if you want a ranger tab you should be able to run 3 miles total at a pace faster than 8 minutes per mile. If you run it between 6 and 7 minute miles you have plenty of time to do the other events and still meet the 27 minute standard
@hmrcyo not gonna lie, 7 to 8 minute miles in boots is a totally different game than running shoes. That second 2 mile is gonna be a smoke show.
That’s what I’m thinking! I don’t think I could run 3 miles in boots within 24 min. Let alone 2 of those miles being after I smoke check my legs
@@NickVarn Then you need to be training harder.
@@grxy5924 clearly
I like that it’s more holistic as you said but I would hope that it doesn’t lower the standard. Excited to see you try it out!
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The Army cant even get soldiers in general, and now they decide to up the Ranger standards? Too funny
This extremely pragmatic approach to a physical assessment is absolutely a move in the right direction. If the Army were smart, they would implement a scaled-down version for regular soldiers and replace the PFT/ACFT. Not only would this minimize complexity and confusion of having too many fitness tests, but every soldier would be working towards Ranger physical standards. I believe this will accomplish two things: assist Soldiers in scaling up to Ranger physical standards quicker, and likely produce better candidates for Ranger School and RASP.
Im going to do the program, solely to just improve my health/life. Not looking to join the military, but this challenge is going to be a big stepping stone in my life
I am really loving that everything is moving from just push ups/sit ups and pull up. The more we make tests that don’t need the dumb perfect form of a push up and allows you to not blow out you rotators cuff is amazing.
These PT tests are really making me want to be in the army more
Prepping for Ranger school, going in 2024! Great info as always! I appreciate all the videos and programs!
Awesome! We’ll keep the updates coming as they roll out! 👊
Same man see you there
i’m doing the same i’ll see y’all there!
Seems like a more challenging version of the new pt test for the expert badges. I think it will be a good change, as long as the standard is set at the correct time.
Doing it in uniform and boots will be the toughest thing for a number of people. The time standard seems doable, but it could be tricky for folks during that 2 mile run where they see that it took them slightly over/under 12 mins for the previous events and have to complete the 2 miler in boots in under 15 mins. You will literally have to smoke the non-running events to give yourself some breathing room.
Be interesting to see how this shakes out at 27 minutes as per the event standards. I have a hunch that the time will get bumped up a few minutes or they will drop the 2 mile and make it a 1 mile run at the beginning and 1 mile at the end.
You young guys, I was in 1st Battalion, HAAF in the 1980s. I'll be 59 in Oct, if I can do what this man is telling you ,you can do it but you better work your ass off without anyone chewing your ass . On top of that get your head right and keep it there. Lose your head, your bearing and your body will follow.
Did you know B. Croft?
I'm a big fan of this because it eliminates RIs sharpshooting people at random during the current RPA ("48... 48... 48... NO GO"). This new standard seems impartial.
That time standard may get a few people. You see the events and you think you can smoke it, but it will depend on how well troops can transition from being damn good in PTs compared to combat uniform and boots. The biggest hurdle could very well be the uniform and taking it for granted that they will beat 27 mins easily.
running in boots and uniform are a game changer...27 mins is doable, but a stud will have to have a solid run time of 7 min miles.
I love this. Personally I think it’s a great challenge and will be able to push our fitness levels to new standards. My concern is that, how would they consider implementing this when they are taking away the ACFT (potentially) due to finding? I understand it’s a mass scale thing, but I find it funny that they would take away the endurance event of the original RPFT when they bring back the original APFT. Just a thought
I don’t think the ACFT is going anywhere, the SMA has stated he likes the fitness standards that previous SMA Grinston set in place regarding the ACFT & wants to continue hopefully. Even then it’ll take about 3 years before the new test is implemented if they do decide to scrap the ACFT.
Appreciate you! Thanks for the share and for getting this out to perspective students. #keepgoing
Of course! One team one fight. 🫡
Gonna have to run 7 min miles to even have a chance to meet that 27 mins.
Like the ACFT I think this will benefit alot of people who are very explosive and powerful. I love this update and i pray it gets implemented. Very condusive for combat and you either make the time or you dont.
My IBOLC class did this last week and is was absolutely heinous. We had about a 20% pass rate and the group of dudes I’m with is in insane shape. The killer was by far the sled drag and the first 400-800m of the 2 mile. 180 on a sled drag is hard and the RTB commander told my class that it’s most likely piece of the pie that’s going to be altered. Most of us finished around 29m. The general strategy is to run a 6:30 for the first mile, try to finish all of the middle events by the 11m mark and just try to move your legs until you’re able to run again.
You’re like the Stephen Wonderboy of the soldiering world.
I love the direction the Army is going with the new physical assessments.
Thanks to any and all of you who serve.
I think this is much more easy to pass. It's a lot easier to be explosive for a short period of time than it is to endure over a longer period. Doing a 5 mile run alone in under 35;00 is much more difficult than this entire assessment, not including the 2 min push ups/situps
....The 5 mile is actually done in 40 minutes or less.
It does appear that way, really depended on your endurance vs explosiveness levels and how you train.
@@tracphonevirtualmagazine As the minimum, yes. But the minimum is rarely ever the benchmark
@GrittySoldier IMO, if someone is training for Ranger, they should have the explosiveness and endurance, so both tests should be passable out of the gate. I can see if someone only trained endurance, they might have trouble with this one in the allotted time
They should do both before ranger school becomes just like airborne school just another school that someone goes to to get there ticket punched
Strong will, always over train and ramp nutrition.... a good recipe for success. Most importantly; for me, first grounded in God, Christ, faith and prayer.
One would have to run a 6 min. mile to even stand a chance to complete the test within 27 min. Seems to me a extreme small window of being able to pass.
In boots! 🤯
My last day in the U.S. Army was yesterday in my 8 year term. I was active duty, got my honorable discharge serving my full time; then the IRR. It was an interesting 8 years. There were some great time and some sucky times. I thought about reenlisting up to my last day but sadly I’m afraid the army won’t change some of there stupid rules so I didn’t. I’m glad I served though. I did enough to be the armed forceman GOAT.
New standard definitely seems to change the skewing from being better for leaner and aerobic oriented soldiers to potentially better for the bigger more strength oriented ones
Hey thanks a lot for this update, I’m actually looking to go next spring so this is definitely good to know. You’re the man Gritty!
Doing this tomorrow, August 9th, with IBOLC and RASP. Full test - haven't briefed us the time standard yet.
How was it ?
I agree. This doesn’t really seem too challenging.
When I went to RS, Class 12-80, I ran the 2 mile PT test in 11:15. That was wearing leg boots, fatigue pants and OD green t-shirt. I was in like 20 place at the finish. We didn’t wear running shoes in those days. We ran in boots.
I never got why any PT was done without uniform and boots, especially for a specific school thats got an infantry + type focus.
Im not saying load everybody up with 200lbs of crap either (despite supposed weight restrictions for health and combat effectiveness) like you very likely could deployed, just at least in the uniform and boots you might be stuck in for a while doing physically demanding stuff.
It just sounds like a different version of the RPAT, just without kit. I love the sound of it
Love the content, thanks for the updates! Keep them coming!
A test I went through was a tad different. The course was a 5 minute or less. An obsatacle course with balance beam, crawling through a 20 foot tube, over obstacles without jumping, dummy drag, 2 10 sec stops for as many sit ups and push ups can be done, then a 1/2 mile run. Total course length 1 mile.
I could see this being a good test. I would like to see a 1 mi heavy ruck at the end instead of the 2 mile run, since we have already seen a run at the beginning. Simply for the sake of specificity with respect to combat readiness and a holistic test. Similar time frame as well.
You know what let’s hear your version of this what would you put in? I thinking you might have a good one.
I can’t wait to say I went to school “when it was hard” now 🤣🤣🤣
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@@dantemarkow4996 well let’s see
1. It was a joke that’s old as time
2. Do you even have a tab 😂
I’m wondering how they’ll actually implement it with the amount of people at Ranger School all needing to take it. With equipment being involved you’ll be limited on the amount of lanes that you can do and each lane will take significantly more time as oppose to 2 minutes per event.
This reminds me of the RPAT in ranger battalion. A couple less events, but yeah the sked drag with 185lbs does suck.
Nice efforts made by you
Lol, they smoked our legs out from under us the first night. I don’t know if I would have passed this test
Seems like a hybrid of the ACFT and the existing RPA. Simpler and less special equipment needed.
Seems good but maybe change the 2 mile run to a 5 mile ruck. Thatd be more applicable than a run imho. Also the Marine CFT 880m run actually sucks because its a true sprintable distance so maybe 880m vs a 1 mile. Thatd smoke people more imho and you can get your distance in at the end.
Add a deadlift with 225 for time and this should completely replace the ACFT because it is a better assessment.
How are they gonna run it? You would need at least 30 lanes of the skedco and KBs because people will be finishing the first mile around the same time and unless the people who are slower get a time pause while waiting for the ones who finished faster I think it’d be unfair.
Start them in waves.
I read the army is going back to the apft pushups 2min, sit ups 2min, 2 mile run!
Definitely need to update the archaic pt test, the time has to increase by at least a minute or two. 6 pull ups, really, 40 lb kettlebell, a 8 year old could carry those. Tailor the skinny runners, because they are weak they will have plenty of time for 185 drag
Time to buy the Nike combat boots I guess
For those of us that are using your current program but will not be going until 2024, do we receieve the updated program or have to buy again with the changes?
Keep training with that program, it will ensure you’re squared away. But as we develop the new program, we will make considerations for your situation. (Long story short, yes 👍 👊)
That actually doesn’t sound intimidating however doing 7 minute miles in uniform is not easy by any means then doing the rest in 6 minutes that’s tough. I did the EPFA in 21 minutes and that was tough I couldn’t imagine running an additional mile on that.
Very similar to the new EIB/ESB EPFA. Cool test
This is a 6 minute mile (18 minutes to cover 3 miles) to have 9 minutes to knock out the rest of the events. The IMT is probably the killer.
You should spend the LEAST amount of time at the pull up bar. 30 seconds maybe to knock out 6 pull-ups if it’s the Go/No Go event.
That skedco…..good luck gents.
Currently on the track to become a surgeon for Army, but I also want to take the opportunities to go to things such as air assault, airborne, pathfinder, and ideally ranger school. Do you think it’s possible to go to ranger school after completion of med school? Or do you think army wouldn’t really allow it due to the qualifications given from being a med school grad?
From my experience, it's very hard for medical officers to get to those schools unless you get assigned to a unit that requires them. I recently retired in 2022 after 20 years as an E7. Thats not to say there aren't exceptions, but a lot of the surgeons, orthopedist and "doctors" in general I ever met who had some of those schools were prior enlisted and had a combat MOS 11, 19 or 13 series. If your fortunate enough to wind up at Bragg or Campbell you can probably land air AssuLt or airborne school as the hospitals do get a few slots for those schools. Good luck in your career!!
@@ericthiel4053 Thanks!
@@jacksonandcokejust go for pj already bro. Everything you said is just a description of what pj’s do.
Thanks
If they are weakening the program, would you please do us all a favor and keep the old one available somehow?
Oh don’t worry the program will never be “weakened” you know that!
@@GrittySoldier That's good because these are the standards as I get older. That I still try to hold myself to.
From my understanding that’s starting in the fiscal year 24 not the actual new year. So in reality it’s coming November.
So even at 8min miles x 3 miles is 24mins so you only have 3 mins to do chin ups, kettle bells, IMT and Skedco? They need to make it 30mins to give time for lines and slow people..
I bought your 8 week program, but was wondering if you also do or have a diet plan to go with it?
Thanks for sharing this sir! I'm going to be in 24-01.. do you think there is a chance it is going to be implemented then? It sounded like the CSM was saying it would be later but that glide path indicates 24-02?
You should be in a class still taking the traditional RPFT 👍
Rgr thanks sir!
I like it 🤷🏾♂️
I hope this roles out all the way. Nothing to hate about it and finally an end to the 49 club.
Just make the school a zoom call.
Studying for my asvab trying to aim high for the test not sure if I wanna do infantry or not, had students loan office give me a call
Do you have any weekly train up plans for a 12 mile ruck?
I like not doing sit-ups. In fact, I like this so much that if the Army is still tweaking the ACFT I would prefer that they adopt this version of the RPA. Two points of contention I see is that every other branch has push-ups in their fitness test so this would be a radical departure from that, but RLTW right? The other thing is that I can already hear the old heads talking their shit about how standards have dropped.
30min total would be realistic. theres more to Ranger school than running fast.. trust that
Could you drop the PDF for the slide you showed earlier?
I feel as though this will help the United States win the next one. The Feels
It seems like it's not congruent with how the whole rest of the Army is training.
Hey can i enter ranger school without any military experience straight from civilian life if i got a good score in asvab?
Fiscal 2024 begins in October.
It does, but they also mention the “calendar year” in the brief, I think they want to be able to have a 100% idea by FY24, but implement NLT calendar 2024.
nice
PT belt hahha is that thing ever going away geez
The first thing they’ll ditch is the uniform.
That’s a lot to do in 27 minutes.
Does this mean for RASP and Ranger school you will no longer be tested on pushups or situps? Planning on leaving on option 40 in a couple months.
That is correct. From my understanding, RASP and Ranger School are ran by two different organizations. RASP is organized by the 75th Ranger Regiment, and Ranger School is organized by the big Army.
You will take an RPFT for RASP, which consists of T-pushups, a plank, a 5-mile run, and 6 chin ups. The changes to this PT test have already gone live, and it is a lot easier to pass than the old RPFT if you have trained for 80% standards on the ACFT.
Upon completing RASP, you'll be sent to the regiment where your number one goal is training to pass Ranger school to get your tab. There, you'll be training for the test that Ranger School requires, which looks like it will be the RPA 2.0 sometime next year. Honestly, it just seems like the ACFT with extra weight.
The T-pushup requirement is 41 iirc, whereas the old standard was 59 regular. Pushups also make the 3-5 second rushes easier.
@aaronjackson6688 So in pre rasp and rasp it will be the hand release pushups and plank? No regular pushups or situps? Just want to focus in on the main stuff I'm being tested on and not a thousand different things. Also situps fucking kill my back and the plank feels much better.
This sounds right as it lines up with ACFT/EIB/ESB type events. My only question is why do the glide path and process map have the Blue/Green logo on them?
@Optimus1234Prime That is correct. Those changes went live sometime this past March or April. The reasoning behind the change was because Rangers have about 4-5 different PT tests they need to be passing all of the time, so they remodeled the RPFT to be the same exercises that are conducted on the ACFT. Just like the old one was 80% standards on the APFT, the new RPFT is 80% standards on the ACFT.
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Will this apply to RASP as well?
does this apply for RASP
blue green program is by far better
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I don’t think 27 will stick. I bet they bump it up to 29 honestly.
Yeah that's a real push to make that 27. If you can keep a 6 min pace that's 18 minutes right there by itself.
@@tracphonevirtualmagazine in boots too 🥴 I could realistically run all that at a 7min pace
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the run eats a lot of time.
It does, start running!! 👊
Yes, it does. The fact that they are in boots and combat uniform will also play a huge part in getting the non-running events done as soon as possible to save time without gassing before the 2 miler. You really have to be on your game taking that test and not take 27 mins for granted. It seems like a long time, but it isn't doing those events without breaks, so preparedness will be huge.
i like the combat type pt it makes sense
27 min?
Is this being tested on ABOLC and IBOLC students going to Ranger School or the entire class? You asked for opinions so let a 63-year old (who had a CrossFit L1 cert as recent as 2017), Class 4-83 guy opine: It's a sprint / burner WOD in the middle with a long cash-in and an hard cash-out. A beginner "Murph". I like the whole thing but think, as Rxd here, 27 minutes is a tough mark to hit, but per the comments below, if they are hitting it in 17-20 min. with a 1-mile cashout then adding an additional mile would be NBD at 8 min mile pace. The movements in the middle sound time-consuming but imagine 3X100-yard shuttle runs add the odd-implement element, and it's not as daunting. You'd gain a little active recovery / 4-count breathing between the 4 middle movements if you bust it on the opening run then see what you need to hit the 27 time cap. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk. 😀
IBOLC, yes. ABOLC, unsure
Can a MP go to Ranger school?
Anybody can
@@HimmyNuetron-bd2mv no not anyone.
This change should make it a lot more challenging.
27 minutes is not enough, other than the drag you are catering to runners
What does the 100m IMT consist of?
Chest and thighs touching the ground every 10m for 100m
Thanks@@tjpolovchik4723
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Does anyone have any tips for someone with plenty of time to train for rangers couple years before I am even able to enlist?
Ah to be 21 years old and 185lbs. Again
nothing to do but a heart attack
BLF if you’re not a runner you will not go to Ranger School lol. Sweet spot for the runs is probably 7 min miles or faster in boots and ACUs. Probably won’t let you wear the high speed Nike boots that are basically running shoe soles with a boot upper. Gonna be a tough test, as it should be
bruh, Peeta?
My 2 cents, for what's worth, 1 mile at the end not 2 miles and tighten up the time frame accordingly. How often are you going to run 2 miles in combat? Everything else seems legit. Just my thoughts. I know opinions are like @$$holes, everyone else's stinks.
Old Airborne medic '91 to '95.
Legs's still suck