What’s funny is that the writer for Halo 5 literally admitted that he wrote this story with absolutely no idea what direction they should take for the next game
I love how Vale's entire character is just translating what Elites speak when they probably just have a future version of Google Translate they can use
At this point they just said “Fuck it, we need new characters. Throw in some random ass people who’s only contribution to the progress of the plot is the ability to T A L K, make them make noise or smthn”
My assumption is that the spartan IIs that pop back up were apart of the spartan 2 rejects. The ones where the gene modes and cybernetics didn't take. I thought they figured out how to get them to stop shitting themselves and walk on their own.
@@DamnDaimen Kelly, Linda, and Fred were operating in different theaters while Chief was doing his thing. They were all part of the group that survived the selection process and were with him up until the fall of Reach. The book that goes over what they were doing the most is Ghost of Onyx iirc.
@@lukekistan4004 yes, forced. As in they rebuilt core gameplay from the ground up just to make it involve the stupid little squads. You played the game, right? They redesigned several enemies just to force you to flank around them while your team distracts them.
@@lukekistan4004 Oh and they made enemies way too aggressive to entice you into directing your team to balance combat, only that doesnt work because the AI is trash. Instead you wind up spending most of the game running away while the AI doesnt even hesitate to get right up in your face, knowing they're beyond tanky enough to beat you in a slugging match.
I disagree that the gameplay (in campaign) is even good. At least when I played, I had to take cover and take pot shots far too often. In other Halos, on heroic, it was all about the mobility. Run and gun, only move around cover for a moment to let your shields recharge. In Halo 5, I constantly had to find a rock or wall to turtle behind.
Even funnier was that the Wardens were just akwardly stumbling towards them, and taking a solid minute to recover from a single shot to the shoulder. Had they actually been running, Chief and Blue Team would be sliced into ribbons
@shooziewooziez8886 it's a shame people didn't like him in halo 2, then halo 3 came around and everyone's like, "no arbiter missions?" It's really the fan base that ruined some of these things for halo.
Best part? Nathan got a role in the series because he's as much a Halo fan as Bungie are Firefly fans. I have a feeling he knew exactly what he was doing there.
the most obvious example of the incompetence of 343's writing team is that they immediately bring back Cortana and make her evil, undermining their own death scene they gave her in Halo 4
Not to mention they have her recite the Didact's monologue at the end of Halo 4. What stings the most is that there was concept art of the Didact for Halo 5, but they removed him and had him die in a comic book.
@@Aredel HE DIDNT FUCKING DIE! Why do people keep saying this!? That Comic was supposed to be set-up for the Didacts appearance in Halo 5! He didnt die, he got composed, and in Halo 5 he was meant to come back as a broken, weak Promethean dude.
"Intro's pretty cool." Am I the only one who listened to their orders, which were to enter in STEALTHILY yet they go in guns blazing. Just shows how bad the writing is in this game just so they can get a nice action intro for the trailer.
Halo 5's story is basically a dream....you don't know how it started, every character says random shit that doesn't add to the story, you appear in random areas for no reason, and ultimately its a clusterfuck that you think makes sense at the time but after you wake up you go "what the fuck was that, brain?!"
And even if you do remember anything, your brain decides to erase 50% of what happened in the dream and you have to either fill in what you think happened in the dream or be convinced you had 2 separate dreams
They were always quick, agile and intelligent in the original games and for some reason they decided to make them big, clunky, and slow morons in halo 5.
I remember those ads that play with Chief vs Locke. But in the game all they did was punch each other a few times and that's it. xD They should've doubled down on the concept more to make it feel more epic.
@@RickySama240 It would have made sense if they were hunting for cortana parts rather than chief. Or have him solo like how he was shown in the trailers
They're only there to trick people into thinking it's a Republic Commando-esque game with squad commands and mechanics. In reality it's just a sleazy, gimmicky marketing decision that's just glorified coop
@@Aredel Lol this Halo conversation made me go bak and replay Halo 1 and started on 2. Shit is even better than I remembered it being. Especially with the new cutscenes and shit in MCC.
Halo 1's AI still holds up more than... honestly there's no comparison to the original five's AI. No other franchise has come close. Even Valve is out here banging blocks together like a toddler in comparison to pre-Activision Bungie. Hell, John gorram Carmack hasn't programmed better AI than them and he probably is one.
This Campaign is so baffling after replaying the games, especially 4. I actually liked their approach with Halo 4 telling a more personal story with Chief, and a big part of that was losing Cortana, which in a way was the thing closest to him and made him feel the humanity that was mostly taken from him. This game just spits on that whole idea, that I personally think they actually managed to pull off well in that game despite it being a risky move to kill off one of the last surviving main characters. Hopefully Infinite can somehow clean it up, but we'll just have to see.
No, it doesn’t just spit on that, it adds salt to the wound, just imagine hearing about how your best friend, or maybe even the person you love, maybe one of your parents, had gone and done a mass shooting and killed 20 people, imagine how sad it would be to hear about that, probably even make you more sad than if they had died because your like, how could they have done that. Now imagine that for master chief, first he loses his companion that he had for years and grew an emotion connection to, but then when he learns that there might be a chance she is back years later he finds out she is back but only as a shell of herself and is now trying to kill humanity, that just makes he death even more meaningful because it adds to the tragedy.
might be misremembering but i read somewhere that one of the explanations the writers had to conjur up for cortana was that the cortana we see in h5 is a rampant part of her that survived and escaped the domain? but it’s still awful because the cortana we know and love would never be this violent. it’s not some thrilling plot twist, it just sucks seeing a beloved character make a complete 180 that doesn’t make sense for her. anyway if the rumors about bringing cortana back due to fan backlash are true, then the fans are fools cuz her fate in h4 was a bold writing choice that actually worked.
@@mi-spark bruh, how is it hard to understand Cortanas change to evil just because we knew Cortanas personality as this smart, nice, charismatic ai, doesn’t mean it couldn’t be changed by corruption because of the rampancy after 7 years, she was clearly slowly turning more and more corrupt in halo 4, what says that corruption couldn’t also effect parts of her code such as personality and morals, goals and such, she’s just an ai written by code with a little bit of Halsey personality thrown in there, she isn’t immune to data corruption, it’s not that weird really
Original Forerunners: Large brutalist structures, mysterious ancient constructs and lore, constant subtle presence Forerunners now: PC case and Schick Hydrobot
@@azHaloFan Isn't that ai just based on the original tho? Still, good on them for keeping the original ai intact, but don't give em too much credit, lol.
@@pygmybrain5868 I am basing this off my experience when playing the original and anniversary on legendary. Original marines were dumb as rocks but anniversary guys managed to kill lots.
In Reach, Jorge was the only Spartan 2. The others were all Spartan 3s. The explanation for Blue team being absent during the other games was they were on another mission during Reach and then they were sent to a Forerunner world and got trapped in a stasis chamber (Cryptum) for years I think until they got rescued. Linda was the only one with Chief, she was actually on the Pillar of Autumn in the first game but was severely wounded and stayed in her cryo pod (which was ejected into space orbiting the Halo ring) the whole game. Then they were sent on other missions instead of being linked up with Chief.
@@finnish_hunter Blue team was always in the lore since the first book, and all the stuff about the whereabouts of blue team were entirely from Bungie era novels except for Blue Team’s departure from onyx, which was in a novel written only a year after bungie left
@@WooporI don't remember much from the fall of reach since I read it in highschool, but I do remember Halo Reach contradicting key points from the book, so if the games are the main canon then not even the first book would be.
“How are we supposed to bring them in? Ask them politely?” Don’t know why you’re being so sarcastic, it’s worth a shot. I mean, have you tried that approach yet?
@@munchiemunch3136 I didn't though. I only have 2. Maybe it glitched and it posted twice, I really don't know. I only posted this comment and the AI comment.
Yeah, they did a very poor job of explaining where Blue Team came from. The reasons in lore are acceptable and done well, but it needs to be explained in the game itself. Especially since most players don't read the books and won't understand where the other Spartan II's came from.
@@Sonic759100 aight, the tldr is before the covies in the 2510s humanity was being torn apart by rebelion, so dr Halsey was like “we need super soldiers” so she stole a bunch of 6 year olds with good genetics and gave them training, augmentations, and mjolnir armour. Bit more complicated than that but it’s good enough.
I'll never forget the moment when I finished Halo 5 and sat there for half an hour thinking the game just froze or something because the story just felt completely unfinished.. jesus
Yeah I remember calling it Halo 4.5 because it didn't feel like a full game. It ended as soon as it got interesting--with Chief and Arbiter meeting again. Here's hoping Halo Infinite will bring the series back in good graces
@@SimonPetrikov12 yea like Charlie said as well, I liked the gameplay and I spent over 500 hours in the multiplayer but the story was always one of the main parts of halo for me
In a way playing Halo 5 now is a blessing in disguise because it will set Charlie's expections so low it be harder for any bad writing or shit game mechanics from Halo Infinite to disappoint him. I could be wrong but seeing the gameplay from Halo Infinite I'm guessing that it's likely at least it would be an interesting game.
republic commandos ai is still one of the best team ais in like any game, cause when they decided to build a game around the team mechanic, they actually made the team useful
Yeah but thats the thing, coding still takes effort and talent, just like back then, graphical fidelity and the push for making a game prettier forbthe sake of presentation for hype campaigning has become a smoke screen to incompetenance and a lack of focus on where it reallymatters most, in the gameplay, it really isn't nostalgia, coding was done better back then, today's devs have it alot easier with tech available to them that it's just easier to let the artists carry most of the leg work and call it a day, after coding in some basic AI pathing of course
@@John-X TBF A lot of the reasoning was showcased in hunt the truth but that’s an out of game source, another huge flaw with this game. It’s also almost like the game itself completely ignores that but try’s to go for the same story. Also I believe osiris works for oni
@@codfanboy2002 even then the only reason is chief is some kind of propaganda machine but correct me if im wrong, hunt the truth doesn't say jack shit about why Osiris is after chief, news about halo 1 through 3 is so skewed where the main character is. He comments on how twisted the narrative has become on human worlds regarding chief
after recently replaying the bungie trilogy i think I've narrowed it down on why this campaign feels so bad. The areas are too large for the ai to navigate. because the levels are meant for you the player to take advantage of "advanced movements" via spartan abilities the ai can't do this unlike in the bungie trilogy the ai travels the same way as you do. this leads to the ai being clunky and the enemies moving as if controlled by internet explorer. It makes you feel uninterested and makes you want to finish the level rather than have you take your time and be engaged in the moment. Many other things are wrong in this game but an essay would take too long.
The warden was terrible . Really made this game fucked. This used to be the only game campaign that I'd be excited for the lore and everything . Until after this game .
I kept on expecting the Warden to take different forms, maybe possessing other Forerunner machines and maybe even combining them...but no, he just shows up as his first form and just copy-pastes himself everywhere. Sheesh, what a waste of what would have been a cool one-off boss.
H5 Forerunners in general felt like total bullet sponges with the way their armor plating worked, if you don't hit their weak spots they take like no damage. Really made them an unfun slog to fight on Legendary, especially during the numerous wave fights.
Honestly Halo 2 Legendary and Halo 5 Legendary come very close together in terms of fucking hard ass. Halo 2 has insta-kill everything covenant with one shot sniper jackals Halo 5 has 100 Warden Eternals
"Fun" fact: the director of Halo and his team didn't think that Master Chief was the main character of the Halo franchise. They saw him as (and I quote): "a vessel for adventure rather than necessarily this major character in the universe. They even said that they knew that we've been following Chief for the entirety of the franchise, but they still didn't see him as a major character in the universe? Then they introduce Locke, and have him stand toe to toe with a guy that blows up alien armadas for fun. Yeah, this game sucks.
Halo 1: Humble beginnings, fun to play with room to grow Halo 2: A huge upgrade on writing, amazing campaign with quality gameplay Halo 3: Finishing the fight, one headshot at a time, the perfection of halo gameplay Halo 3 ODST: A somber look into the lives of marines trying to survive, surprisingly good. Halo Reach: An emotional story about never giving up hope and hopelessness in the face of an impossible enemy, good multi-player with some bullshit Halo 4: An extremely emotional story that humanized Master Cheif with shit gameplay and the worst multi-player Halo 5: Gameplays okay, the story is worse than The Room
Tbh, halo 4 is probably worse, gameplay wise at least. I played spartan ops, then came back to do lege dary on halo 4, and it made me realise how shallow the encounters and sandbox are
@@henrymarshall8825 4 and 5 feel like polar opposites. 4's story was good but gameplay was awful. 5's story was awful but gameplay was good. I don't understand how they could've fucked up the writing after 4. They had a decent template to work off of already.
I can't believe 343 managed to make the most hype moment in halo conceptually a boring ass cutscene that flies in the face of any of the lore of who Chief even is, as literally the leader of all the original Spartan IIs, referring to the fight between Chief and Locke
343 took Cortana and made her into one of the series’ worst characters. She’s a textbook god-complex villain. Remember that part in Halo 2 where she is talking about Regret and says “If I were a megalomaniac, as I’m not, that’s where I’d be.” They made this the most ironic statement in Halo with this awful story.
Well, that version of Cortana was not a megalomaniac. Clearly something happened to her in The Domain. Halo 5's issue is that it doesn't explain what the hell it did or even what The Domain is.
@@darkphoenix2 Yep. It's a sad case of missed potential. It could've been an interesting arc but since it was handled so poorly, instead of doing right 343 will have to pick up the pieces of the mess of this story and move on
The funniest thing is that one of the original drafts of Combat Evolved was also how Cortana became drunk with power and wanted to take over the universe, but they discarded the idea because it was ridiculous. Check the Combat Evolved developers' commentary.
They could have went with the Logic Plague like HiddenXperia suggested. It makes senses because Mendicant Bias had the same thing happen to him. He was infected, and then sought to destroy his makers, by order of the Primordial (the flood). Why wouldn't Cortana be infected too? She's essentially a Contender-Class AI, like MB, and she spent time with the Gravemind.
@@moxxiiscarlett7141 the problem is that cortana basically got plot armor convenienced, she DID get affected by the the flood in halo 3, but then either in 4 or 5, you are seeking halsey out to basically re-do her structure and "fix" her, which could only happen to her as she is an AI that somehow has dna of halsey in her (this is all from memory, if somebody else points out a mistake and backs it up with a source, forget what i just said)
"how did you learn to speak archaic alien tongue like that vale?" oh you know i was bored on a ship for a couple months haha when youre bored youre bored xd lmao 10/10 lore and storywriting
Not to mention that fire team Osiris already worked together before so that conversation doesn’t make any sense since they already know each other and a detail that important where it literally explains what the characters role is not something that someone waits to tell whenever it is convenient for the plot.
It had some good ideas, like having a new playable spartan, the squad mechanic, Arbiter, Swords of sanghelios, and The Domain. However things such as the marketing, death of Jul M’dama in the first mission, Choreography, Cortana’s evil revival, and most importantly the Lack of Chief after the great development he had gotten in Halo 4. Halo infinite has corrected the core mistakes, and is a return to form for the series.
I think game developers/directors need to understand something. As a small scale developer with your own game, sure it’s your direction. But once you take on a project like halo (as a new team of people like 343 into halo 4) it’s no longer “your vision,” we, the people paying for this are essentially your investors, we’re making it happen, it’s what we want NOT what you want, we could give less of shit to your shit ideas, unless your a well respected developer. I feel like they know this but it goes right over their head.
@@DarkLordFromTheSecondAge i cant even agree that it has a good mp cus they removed splitscreen. taking away couch multiplayer from halo is like making super smash bros online only.
@@Skyfoogle Oh yeah, that sucked. The only reason i even bought Halo 5 was to play with my dad in splitscreen. Its like a childhood thing, the first game i ever played was Halo 2 with my dad... But yeah, they fucked even that for us.
Fun fact: They marketed this game's squad AI as having been worked on by one of the devs of Republic Commando, a game with genuinely good squadmate AI. I assume they mean he just gave the code a cursory glance and nodded his head on occasion.
The republic commando squad system and ai was amazing back when i got it and still holds up today. I was directly comparing this ai to that and reading this comment felt like someone smacking me in the face. Incredible
I love sitting here and thinking "damn some of these cutscenes are pretty cool" then it cuts back to gameplay and Charlie's getting slapped around like he'd a soggy pickle
Halo 5 team AI: fellow Spartans will miss every shot and stand still every second Halo infinite marine AI: marines will take the hat off an elite at 2000 yards with the skewer. But they’ll also happily run under a falling warthog when u call one in.
I can't believe that there was no one in chat that could tell Charlie that Blue Team (the other Spartan 2's and Chief's team from before Halo CE and in between Halo CE and Halo 2), was trapped in the shield world Onyx during Halo 2, 3, and 4.
I thought during 1 Chief was alone a=on the Autumn, OK, then in 2 they were just on another orbital defense and Chief went with the In Amber Clad and that was just one ship, OK, then 3 I don't remember, but Hidden Xperia has a whole video on it, I'm just saying what I remember from a while ago.
@@CHIEF__ yeah so right before The Fall of Reach, Chief took Linda and another Spartan-II named James (if I recall correctly) on a mission in orbit to destroy an AI aboard a space station. He sent Kelly, Frederic, and Will down to the surface of Reach to protect the batteries powering the orbital MAC stations defending Reach, as well as the remaining Spartan-IIs. During his Op, James' thruster sustained damage from a needler supercombine which yeeted him into space, and Linda got basically melted by plasma fire as they opened the door to the hanger and were ambushed. Kelly and the others managed to hunker down in Castle base where they also met Halsey and CPO Mendez. During this time they regrouped and managed to steal a few banshees and took over a Covenant ship as well, letting them escape Reach after the planet was destroyed. Where they went directly after I don't recall. At one point they do reconnect with Kurt, another Spartan-II that was Sam's replacement I think. It's during this time that the events of 'Ghosts of Onyx' take place. My favorite book, personally. Chief took Linda with him aboard a pelican and got back to the PoA in time for them to make their "random" jump, but Cortana managed to extract a space grid coordinates from an artifact they retrieved on another planet that they thought was just a rock (some people here might remember this part as it's also where we read about a Hunter just giving no Fs as it curbs a jackal to the ground simply for being in its way) In Halo: CE we can actually "see" Linda. He medical data in on display in the backroom attached to the room that overlooks the cryochamber where you start the game. FF: Blue team was actually on the Infinity during the events of Halo 4. The brass simply didn't tell them that Chief was alive and vice versa for reasons I don't know. Also the Didact survives being composed because in the graphic novels, Chief and co. go down and finish his ancient ass off. Please correct me if I got anything wrong and also tell me why Infinity didn't tell Chief about Blue Team
Well considering that 343 just made that shit up midst desigrating Bungies golden childs rotten corpse, I hate the characters, except Buck, he is actually a Bungie certified character.
“They say the new Halo games are crewed by the damned, and captained by a man so evil that Hell itself spat him back out…” - Halo fan describing 343 Industries and Chuck Wendig
According to the lore I heard, one of Cheifs teammates named “Linda” was actually present during Halo CE, however, sustained a life threatening injury, so she was locked in cryo.
That's true. Fred and Linda were trapped in the Forerunner facility on Reach. That's all 4 of them. There's a few others here and there but basically reach took the nearly 300 Spartan 2 and 3s and reduced the number to like 12 or less. Only about 6 of which are Spartan 2s Even before halo 3 came out, the books knew Chief wasn't the last living Spartan, he was just the last combat ready Spartan at the time. Chief wasn't sure any others survived (he knew kinda did but she was frozen)
Well trash games make him excited more than good ones, he's excited asf in his fast and furious crossroads playthrough The more excited Charlie is the worse the game is and halo 5 perfectly triggers that reaction
I don't even think the gameplay is worth praising. It doesn't play like halo. Enemies track you to an absurd degree (because of the enhanced mobility) which makes you play it like a cover shooter. The sandbox is highly de-emphasized. Strategy is not as rewarded. The fights feel like shooting galleries.
The arenas used to be a lot more option full and what changed between them was the enemies. They used to play off of each other and use strategies. Intelligent design is what separates old halo from new halo where wave based combat seems to be more heavy and prevalent and has bad enemy and friendly ai. Also, apparently 343 originally didn’t even have you play as master chief at all because they didn’t realize that master chief was the main character of the franchise
@@HydrogenAction halo wars 2 is an rts halo spinoff game, they had to use it to fix halo 5s awful story, and they did it really well considering halo wars 2 has a really good story
@@calus_bath_water also leading infinite story to actually be decent. Funny considering how much hate halo wars got from the community and bungie themselves.
Halo 5 did not feel like a halo game. I personally did not enjoy it and the campaign was trash. The multiplayer seemed ok but the gameplay with all the jet boost movement and req stuff in war zone was just a turn off for me. I’ll stick with mcc until infinite comes out, even then many players like me will go back to mcc eventually after infinite dies down
AI Bots in Payday 2 can at least shoot and do try to help you up, hell even Halo 5 allies can shoot. But oh god Battlefield and Battlefront AI, have got to be some of the most useless AI teammates. They can't damage or shoot anything, they are just bullet sponges that look like they are shooting.
the part that makes it fucking stupid is its spartan 4's not 2's doing it the augmentations and armor they have don't even make up the difference between them and 2's they are still lore wise inferior to the likes of chief in every way shape and form yet 343 just goes ohh yea well here's Osiris BS'ing their way through a very hot firefight sequence with so many flaws it should be a war crime to not be killed except buck since well its buck fair enough no one will complain then the best Blue team gets is a private escort to cortana
Explaining where Fred, Linda, and Kelly were during 1-4 in a single chat message would be like copy pasting the tragedy of Darth plagueis the wise twice, Bungie never really put anything from the books in games. They've been a part of the halo universe for quite a long time. Also Jorge was the spartan II hence why he was bigger than everyone else
Bungie was smart in that they saved the important lore for the games, and everything else in the books/comics was a bonus; they’d make little nods to the EU for a bit of fan service (like graffiti in Reach mentioning Harvest), but everything else in the story was new information you were learning for the first time. Meanwhile, story elements in 343 games are basically joined at the hip with the EU; don’t know who the hell Jul ‘Mdama is or why he has Halsey? Should have played Spartan Ops and read the four-part Escalation volumes friend! Why the hell is Cortana still alive, and why is the Warden so devoted to her? Read Tales from Slipspace to know more! Who the hell are Fred, Kelly, and Linda? Better grab the Nylund trilogy of books and get to reading, Soldier! Even Infinite falls into a trap with this, with the introduction of the Banished and Atriox in particular coming out of fucking nowhere unless you also played Halo Wars 2, read Tales from Slipspace, and the 4-part comic establishing them as a force to rival and ultimately destroy the Covenant.
@@JoeSixThreeOh They went with the Kingdom Hearts model of storytelling, and proceeded to overcomplicate their games in exactly the same way. Why is it that game developers never learn from other game developers?
@@Monkforilla there's a boss who has Locke's helmet on his shoulder pad, so there's speculation he was killed in-between. I believe it's confirmed that Tanaka is returning, though, so fireteam Osiris isn't gone completely, and infinite has been confirmed as a sequel to halo 5. The whole 'reboot' thing is in reference to it being a spot in the story new players can jump into, as well as refreshing the design and story themes.
Bungie: *Makes the Jackal snipers have god reflexes and one shot in H2 Legendary* Everyone: Yea don't do that it's horrible 343: Yo what if we made Jackal snipers that 360 no scope you and 1 shot you?
What’s funny is that the writer for Halo 5 literally admitted that he wrote this story with absolutely no idea what direction they should take for the next game
@@joshroehl6098 what, no
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@@joshroehl6098 are you THAT desperate for engagement, just ANY kind of attention strangers are willing to give you? Genuinely curious.
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I love how Vale's entire character is just translating what Elites speak when they probably just have a future version of Google Translate they can use
I mean, that's the canon explanation for why you can understand Covvies in Halo 2 as Master Chief. UNSC built translators into helmet comms.
@@Tawleyn lol Thank you for proving my point even more
At this point they just said
“Fuck it, we need new characters. Throw in some random ass people who’s only contribution to the progress of the plot is the ability to T A L K, make them make noise or smthn”
The best part is that speaking elite somehow qualifies her to become a spartan, at least the others are war veterans
Good lord, I never even considered this because they do have translators in their helmet. Though, I think the use of it has been inconsistent.
"I already forgot why we're here" don't worry, they didn't tell you.
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"Hey"
"Yeah?"
"You ever wonder why we're here?"
@@bobafatty111 One of life's greatest mysteries isn't it
@@bobafatty111 because we get payed to
This is possibly the most garbage and disappointing set of replies I have seen
As someone whos into the lore, that part with chat trying to explain the Spartan IIs really hurt me on an emotional level
Amen brother
Time stamp?
My assumption is that the spartan IIs that pop back up were apart of the spartan 2 rejects. The ones where the gene modes and cybernetics didn't take. I thought they figured out how to get them to stop shitting themselves and walk on their own.
@@DamnDaimen Kelly, Linda, and Fred were operating in different theaters while Chief was doing his thing. They were all part of the group that survived the selection process and were with him up until the fall of Reach. The book that goes over what they were doing the most is Ghost of Onyx iirc.
Wait until he asks about Halo 3 ODST
How’s that gonna go?
'buck is the only one on this team that's worth anything'
*we know*
@@Seven-vn6qi he's spamming in mutahars comment sections as well. Not sure why someone set this bot up
@卐LouielolBruh卍 millions of years of evolution to make this. Man’s got 2 brain cells fighting for third place
Yeah, buck and arbiter are the only good things about 5
@@orangethesaberguy7638 💀💀💀
@@ihavenoname4139 it’s for attention. Us talking about him is a win. He got your attention he won
"Well, that fucking sucked. Gameplay was good tho" Halo 5 in a nutshell
Overlooking the fact that it doesnt play like Halo anymore because of the forced "squad" mechanic.
@@StrifeRixa "forced"
@@lukekistan4004 yes, forced. As in they rebuilt core gameplay from the ground up just to make it involve the stupid little squads.
You played the game, right? They redesigned several enemies just to force you to flank around them while your team distracts them.
@@lukekistan4004 Oh and they made enemies way too aggressive to entice you into directing your team to balance combat, only that doesnt work because the AI is trash. Instead you wind up spending most of the game running away while the AI doesnt even hesitate to get right up in your face, knowing they're beyond tanky enough to beat you in a slugging match.
I disagree that the gameplay (in campaign) is even good.
At least when I played, I had to take cover and take pot shots far too often. In other Halos, on heroic, it was all about the mobility. Run and gun, only move around cover for a moment to let your shields recharge. In Halo 5, I constantly had to find a rock or wall to turtle behind.
Halo 5 is like opening the cookie tin and finding sewing equipment
That’s like getting edged and then she tells you she’s a dude
Incorrect. It's like opening the tin only to discover cat shit
Not even gonna respond to that dude in the comments but can everyone just report him pls
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True
Charlie: "At least shoot the generator to save me some fucking ammo"
Tanaka: *sacrifices herself to holy lands*
What time was this at?
@@sonlereasdilereas1220 40:06
Chief: Focus fire
Blue team: Proceeds to shoot every single Warden except focus on just one
Greatest moment in the history of gaming
fr lol made no fuckin sense
Your squad was shooting at things?
@@bloodthirst2ez cutscene
Even in the cutscenes, the AI can’t function
Even funnier was that the Wardens were just akwardly stumbling towards them, and taking a solid minute to recover from a single shot to the shoulder. Had they actually been running, Chief and Blue Team would be sliced into ribbons
Everyone at the beginning of the game: story hasn’t started yet
Everyone at the end of the game: story hasn’t started yet
Pretty much. I remember finishing it and going "that's it?!"
bro i’m so confused😂😭😭
@@williamschrader9717 I didn’t even finish it.
First halo game I physically couldn’t sit through
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@@Bruhwas Everyone that played the game was confused dw
Charlie: Buck is the only one on this team worth anything.
Buck: *Fuckin' dies.*
Charlie: Well shit.
Keith David is massively underrated as Arbiter. He's been a mainstay in the series for 18 years. Solid actor
Keith David is a solid prime hunk of golden beef in everything he's in, even when the thing itself might be terrible.
Honestly wish he was in Halo Infinite too
@shooziewooziez8886 it's a shame people didn't like him in halo 2, then halo 3 came around and everyone's like, "no arbiter missions?" It's really the fan base that ruined some of these things for halo.
Buck: "Every soldier is gonna hate us when they hear what we did."
Locke: *Immediately gets shot as soon as he steps down on the colony*
Buck was talking about halo 5 itself
@@David-ms2uw HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Best part? Nathan got a role in the series because he's as much a Halo fan as Bungie are Firefly fans. I have a feeling he knew exactly what he was doing there.
the most obvious example of the incompetence of 343's writing team is that they immediately bring back Cortana and make her evil, undermining their own death scene they gave her in Halo 4
Not to mention undermining the entire story of Halo Reach. An evil Cortana actually makes the plot of a lot of the original Bungie games pointless.
Not to mention they have her recite the Didact's monologue at the end of Halo 4. What stings the most is that there was concept art of the Didact for Halo 5, but they removed him and had him die in a comic book.
@@Aredel HE DIDNT FUCKING DIE! Why do people keep saying this!? That Comic was supposed to be set-up for the Didacts appearance in Halo 5! He didnt die, he got composed, and in Halo 5 he was meant to come back as a broken, weak Promethean dude.
@@jakespacepiratee3740 Composed, dead, contained, who gives a shit. They didn't use him, and then they ruined 4's ending by using Cortana instead.
and they are the devs behind Halo Infinite it makes me sad.... Maybe they can at least make infinites multiplayer fun?
If anyone thinks AI will overtake humanity soon, just let them play Halo 5.
I'd rather not have ai companions than this fucking mess
and if you think an in game AI is comparable to real life AI that's being used and tested is the same, you need to go outside and touch some grass
@@shadowsketch926 r/wooosh
@@shadowsketch926 lol what is "real life ai" 😂
@@SecretMountainTroll it doesn't even exist yet.
"Why doesn't he just throw the armor lock thing on him"
**Were it so easy**
Someone made a video where MC did that. It was pretty cool.
"Intro's pretty cool." Am I the only one who listened to their orders, which were to enter in STEALTHILY yet they go in guns blazing. Just shows how bad the writing is in this game just so they can get a nice action intro for the trailer.
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As soon as 343 took over halo got so much worse
I feel bad these bots are invading your comment
It also turned the covenant into a joke that spartan mow through like they weren't even there.
Don't forget about the chief/Locke fight. Good example of the animators knowing nothing about the franchise they are working on.
Now this is a video I did not expect to see in my sub box LMAO
Mai boi!!!!
This is the greatest A.I. of all time
Also hi HiddenXperia
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🙇🏿
Ayyyeeee hi Xperia
the title and description are at odds.
No
Yes
@@orio1368 I'm not in the state
@@seamussmyth1928 coom
@@orio1368 i thought your name was Ohio
whats even more ironic about Halo 5 is the whole story is about AI
Halo 5's story is basically a dream....you don't know how it started, every character says random shit that doesn't add to the story, you appear in random areas for no reason, and ultimately its a clusterfuck that you think makes sense at the time but after you wake up you go "what the fuck was that, brain?!"
And even if you do remember anything, your brain decides to erase 50% of what happened in the dream and you have to either fill in what you think happened in the dream or be convinced you had 2 separate dreams
Tbh, it would be better if this game was all a dream by master chief.
Sometimes I dream about cheese
@@greasycheese24theiii34 one day this will all be a bad memory
that's what happens if you literally want to keep a franchise alive, jesus, Microsoft should just let the fucking franchise rest.
80% if this video is “BUCK WHY” “JESUS CHRIST BUCK”
Everything is Buck’s fault
I mean, he was a BAMF in Halo 3 ODST. They butchered my boy bad.
He’s the only one Charlie actually put high expectations for
Buck is the new Kat
He has fallen from grace
His name is buck and he likes to.....
Spread joy
I love how despite the fact that Halo how has 6 mainline games, people still remember it as a Trilogy.
I wouldn't say it's a trilogy, I mean that'd leave out Reach, a really good Halo game.
Odst was really good too debatable if you count it as it's own game but MCC does.
@@OrionDawn15 well Reach and ODST are mostly Spin-offs.
@@AaronKaiMCDNLD I mean, yeah. They're still great games though. They'll always be mainline to me.
@@OrionDawn15 Reach is bad.
I fucking said it.
“I think they did a good job with the action”
He says as one of the highest ranking elites in the “covenant” stumbles off a cliff for no clear reason.
Search "Halo 5 Master Chief fight but accurate"
I seriously hope he survive cause what the fuck was that.
They were always quick, agile and intelligent in the original games and for some reason they decided to make them big, clunky, and slow morons in halo 5.
@@calebmorris7687 343 not understanding Halo? Sounds like another day that ends with 'Y'
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the campaign was so bad that he couldn’t even bring himself to finish the description
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@卐LouielolBruh卍 nah that's you who's headed there buddy 😂
I love how the description and title are completely different
At least the multiplayer is good
@卐LouielolBruh卍 bruh, you believe in hell in 2021? wack.
Genuinely wasn’t expecting this lmao. Godspeed Charlie
Gods speed Oranges
@卐LouielolBruh卍 wtf
Orangesssssssss what's up g
If he can't beat it in 2 hours. he's not an actual gamer.
Luv orange
Chief vs Locke was the most boring shit I've ever seen.
when it was suppose to be the opposite
I remember those ads that play with Chief vs Locke. But in the game all they did was punch each other a few times and that's it. xD They should've doubled down on the concept more to make it feel more epic.
@@RickySama240 It would have made sense if they were hunting for cortana parts rather than chief. Or have him solo like how he was shown in the trailers
@@gtvn2775 Or maybe it could be an in-game boss fight as well. ;p
The fight should have been like a red vs blue fight
"BUCK IS THE ONLY ONE ON THIS TEAM THAT'S WORTH ANYTHING" Yep. You got that right.
Locke and Vale are cool, Tanaka is an empty character though.
Well duh, he's Nathan gorram Fillion.
Wasn’t buck an odst?
@@Wholelottaorange yes he was.
Buck: The character so good, he decides to completely forget this game ever happened and gets his old squad back together.
The teammates “artificial intelligence” is more like genuine stupidity
They're only there to trick people into thinking it's a Republic Commando-esque game with squad commands and mechanics. In reality it's just a sleazy, gimmicky marketing decision that's just glorified coop
Play Gears 1 on Insane then you will learn the truth
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Meanwhile the enemy ai snipes you in an instant from across the map, or could miss a melee by a mile and still insta-kill you
@卐LouielolBruh卍 damn chill. Besides erry1 knows hells fake anyway
Funny how the ai has evolved but backwards. Back in reach the enemies would even flank you.
Shit, they'd even try in the FIRST Halo.
They flanked back in Halo CE. And your guys would notice it and move to cover your ass when it happened.
@@Aredel Lol this Halo conversation made me go bak and replay Halo 1 and started on 2. Shit is even better than I remembered it being. Especially with the new cutscenes and shit in MCC.
Halo 1's AI still holds up more than... honestly there's no comparison to the original five's AI. No other franchise has come close. Even Valve is out here banging blocks together like a toddler in comparison to pre-Activision Bungie. Hell, John gorram Carmack hasn't programmed better AI than them and he probably is one.
A true testament to 343's "skill"
This Campaign is so baffling after replaying the games, especially 4. I actually liked their approach with Halo 4 telling a more personal story with Chief, and a big part of that was losing Cortana, which in a way was the thing closest to him and made him feel the humanity that was mostly taken from him. This game just spits on that whole idea, that I personally think they actually managed to pull off well in that game despite it being a risky move to kill off one of the last surviving main characters. Hopefully Infinite can somehow clean it up, but we'll just have to see.
No, it doesn’t just spit on that, it adds salt to the wound, just imagine hearing about how your best friend, or maybe even the person you love, maybe one of your parents, had gone and done a mass shooting and killed 20 people, imagine how sad it would be to hear about that, probably even make you more sad than if they had died because your like, how could they have done that. Now imagine that for master chief, first he loses his companion that he had for years and grew an emotion connection to, but then when he learns that there might be a chance she is back years later he finds out she is back but only as a shell of herself and is now trying to kill humanity, that just makes he death even more meaningful because it adds to the tragedy.
@@slayrix279 no
@@slayrix279 no
might be misremembering but i read somewhere that one of the explanations the writers had to conjur up for cortana was that the cortana we see in h5 is a rampant part of her that survived and escaped the domain? but it’s still awful because the cortana we know and love would never be this violent. it’s not some thrilling plot twist, it just sucks seeing a beloved character make a complete 180 that doesn’t make sense for her.
anyway if the rumors about bringing cortana back due to fan backlash are true, then the fans are fools cuz her fate in h4 was a bold writing choice that actually worked.
@@mi-spark bruh, how is it hard to understand Cortanas change to evil just because we knew Cortanas personality as this smart, nice, charismatic ai, doesn’t mean it couldn’t be changed by corruption because of the rampancy after 7 years, she was clearly slowly turning more and more corrupt in halo 4, what says that corruption couldn’t also effect parts of her code such as personality and morals, goals and such, she’s just an ai written by code with a little bit of Halsey personality thrown in there, she isn’t immune to data corruption, it’s not that weird really
Original Forerunners: Large brutalist structures, mysterious ancient constructs and lore, constant subtle presence
Forerunners now: PC case and Schick Hydrobot
Don't forget about the *LENS FLARES AND FLOATY BITS!*
@卐LouielolBruh卍 Ok.
There was also interesting implications early on that the forerunners were ancient humans. That’s certainly out the window after halo 4 though.
@@crims0nmelody Yeah, always liked that idea. Damn shame they scrapped it.
@卐LouielolBruh卍 what is wrong with you
I mean, ngl this is the most realistic teammate AI ever, it's just like online multiplayer team, both useless
But hey, I played Halo 2 anniversary and my marines killed so many ghosts on legendary, so 343 is doing somethig right.
@@azHaloFan Isn't that ai just based on the original tho? Still, good on them for keeping the original ai intact, but don't give em too much credit, lol.
@@pygmybrain5868 I am basing this off my experience when playing the original and anniversary on legendary. Original marines were dumb as rocks but anniversary guys managed to kill lots.
face it, we all screamed "just grab the fucking flag" at some point in our lives
@@azHaloFan Damn, I never actually played the og, so you might be on to something. Fuckin sweet if they tweaked it.
In Reach, Jorge was the only Spartan 2. The others were all Spartan 3s.
The explanation for Blue team being absent during the other games was they were on another mission during Reach and then they were sent to a Forerunner world and got trapped in a stasis chamber (Cryptum) for years I think until they got rescued. Linda was the only one with Chief, she was actually on the Pillar of Autumn in the first game but was severely wounded and stayed in her cryo pod (which was ejected into space orbiting the Halo ring) the whole game. Then they were sent on other missions instead of being linked up with Chief.
Linda was never in base CE. That Easter Egg was added in with Anniversary. That second Spartan was for co-op
343 added that shit, it was never in the Bungie games or lore.
@@brysonkuervers2570Linda wasn’t the second Spartan, but she was still floating around halo during the whole game
@@finnish_hunter Blue team was always in the lore since the first book, and all the stuff about the whereabouts of blue team were entirely from Bungie era novels except for Blue Team’s departure from onyx, which was in a novel written only a year after bungie left
@@WooporI don't remember much from the fall of reach since I read it in highschool, but I do remember Halo Reach contradicting key points from the book, so if the games are the main canon then not even the first book would be.
“How are we supposed to bring them in? Ask them politely?”
Don’t know why you’re being so sarcastic, it’s worth a shot. I mean, have you tried that approach yet?
"We'll see how a carbine does."
*immediately dies*
I too saw the video...
How many times are you going to comment on one video?
@@munchiemunch3136 I commented twice. That's it.
@@shaunlevin5081 3 times I think. Might even be 4.
@@munchiemunch3136 I didn't though. I only have 2. Maybe it glitched and it posted twice, I really don't know. I only posted this comment and the AI comment.
I just love seeing Charlie playing Halo
Who doesn’t!
true
⭕️K
Same
Nick. Good seeing you here
Charlie: I'm playing and doing it anyway
**Tears of pain**
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@卐LouielolBruh卍 there’s a thing called “outside.” I think you should go there sometime.
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Yeah, they did a very poor job of explaining where Blue Team came from. The reasons in lore are acceptable and done well, but it needs to be explained in the game itself. Especially since most players don't read the books and won't understand where the other Spartan II's came from.
I've been looking for a comment that explains where they came from. I've been a Halo fan since 2003 and i still can't remember where they came from
@@Sonic759100 aight, the tldr is before the covies in the 2510s humanity was being torn apart by rebelion, so dr Halsey was like “we need super soldiers” so she stole a bunch of 6 year olds with good genetics and gave them training, augmentations, and mjolnir armour. Bit more complicated than that but it’s good enough.
@@Coliflower185 I have dr Halsey’s journal from the halo reach per order and that doesn’t line up
@@andrescrespo2514 in what way? Because that pretty much is the origin of the Spartan 2s as explained in the fall of reach
@@andrescrespo2514 They've expanded upon it since I think. Hiddenxperia made a really good video explaining it
"Halo 5 is the Worst Halo Campaign"
*Every 60 seconds, a minute passes in Africa*
@@motorboat469 4 is still better than five. First time I saw gameplay of 5 I didn't even recognize it as halo and 4 had some interesting ideas.
Everyone forgets about ODST….
@@Open.Your.Eyes. probably because you don't play as a Spartan in that game.
@@Open.Your.Eyes. odst was awesome bro
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I'll never forget the moment when I finished Halo 5 and sat there for half an hour thinking the game just froze or something because the story just felt completely unfinished.. jesus
And after watching this now I'm sad all over again because of how much I loved halo while it was good..
Yeah I remember calling it Halo 4.5 because it didn't feel like a full game. It ended as soon as it got interesting--with Chief and Arbiter meeting again. Here's hoping Halo Infinite will bring the series back in good graces
To be fair, I did the same thing on Halo 2 lol
@@SimonPetrikov12 yea like Charlie said as well, I liked the gameplay and I spent over 500 hours in the multiplayer but the story was always one of the main parts of halo for me
I love how Charlie is so done with the games bullshit design in the later levels, he intends on doing speedrun skips just to finish the story.
A stream viewer I see
penguinz0: Halo 5 Is The Worst Halo Campaign
Me: Ah yes, the floor is made of floor
For a game I haven't touched in 4 years, watching this gave me PTSD of how terrible the AI was in this game
Here before the haters and trash replies
Ok
report louie for spam and hatespeech
@@czarismatic1384 western mf's do what yall do best, dox that lil punk louie
Man I see you everywhere
In a way playing Halo 5 now is a blessing in disguise because it will set Charlie's expections so low it be harder for any bad writing or shit game mechanics from Halo Infinite to disappoint him. I could be wrong but seeing the gameplay from Halo Infinite I'm guessing that it's likely at least it would be an interesting game.
@@joshroehl6098 Please promote your music somewhere else and in a better way.
@@joshroehl6098 this shits garbage so dont listen to marcus just dont promote it at all, even if its a troll its not even clever lmfao
@@joshroehl6098 pls put this on Spotify
More so. It’s gonna be *epic*
@@thesupertendent8973 Agreed.
Seems like the old Star Wars republic commandoes had better team ai. And that was like 15 years ago.
republic commandos ai is still one of the best team ais in like any game, cause when they decided to build a game around the team mechanic, they actually made the team useful
The fact that one of the designers from that game worked on Halo 5 makes the squad system 10x worse. And hilarious too
Yeah but thats the thing, coding still takes effort and talent, just like back then, graphical fidelity and the push for making a game prettier forbthe sake of presentation for hype campaigning has become a smoke screen to incompetenance and a lack of focus on where it reallymatters most, in the gameplay, it really isn't nostalgia, coding was done better back then, today's devs have it alot easier with tech available to them that it's just easier to let the artists carry most of the leg work and call it a day, after coding in some basic AI pathing of course
Only thing that comes close IMO is the rainbow 6 Vegas team
i was about to comment this
"Buck is the only one on this team worth absolutely anything" Absolutely correct. Buck is bestboi thanks Charlie
I agree
34:58
Charlie trying to get Vale to pick up a power weapon while the whole time Buck was slowly dying by himself was beautiful .
I don't think he even fired a shot from that shade turret for the entire time he was in it.
Chief: *Saves the world twice from extinction*
Also the UNSC: He’s a traitor and has gone rouge go hunt him down
give it up for the 343i writing staff everybody :D
**enormous applause**
I'd stop chief too if he chose to be a furry.
@@John-X TBF A lot of the reasoning was showcased in hunt the truth but that’s an out of game source, another huge flaw with this game. It’s also almost like the game itself completely ignores that but try’s to go for the same story. Also I believe osiris works for oni
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@@codfanboy2002 even then the only reason is chief is some kind of propaganda machine but correct me if im wrong, hunt the truth doesn't say jack shit about why Osiris is after chief, news about halo 1 through 3 is so skewed where the main character is. He comments on how twisted the narrative has become on human worlds regarding chief
Title: Halo 5 Is The Worst Halo Campaign
Description: This is the greatest halo campaign
I'm getting mixed signals here
Greatest, worst Halo campaign
The duality of man
Greatest can refer to a disappointment as well
he didn't say "of All Time" so you know this shit stinks
after recently replaying the bungie trilogy i think I've narrowed it down on why this campaign feels so bad. The areas are too large for the ai to navigate. because the levels are meant for you the player to take advantage of "advanced movements" via spartan abilities the ai can't do this unlike in the bungie trilogy the ai travels the same way as you do. this leads to the ai being clunky and the enemies moving as if controlled by internet explorer. It makes you feel uninterested and makes you want to finish the level rather than have you take your time and be engaged in the moment. Many other things are wrong in this game but an essay would take too long.
That's actually really logical, that explains alot
As a long time Halo fan I know I speak for all of us when I say: We Know.
Sounds about right lol
@about you stop
I literally thought the same lmao
Yup, as a hard-core halo fan, it sucks
I was just about to say that
“Buck is the only character worth anything” yeah pretty much
Too accurate lmfao
i dont think his statement aged very well he has bad ai
ARandomRUclipsr yeeah but he’s the only one with character
@@jooot_6850 fair enough
Yerr
The warden was terrible . Really made this game fucked. This used to be the only game campaign that I'd be excited for the lore and everything . Until after this game .
I kept on expecting the Warden to take different forms, maybe possessing other Forerunner machines and maybe even combining them...but no, he just shows up as his first form and just copy-pastes himself everywhere. Sheesh, what a waste of what would have been a cool one-off boss.
@@TealeafRogers I wouldn’t say amazing but yeah it’s pretty decent. Then again that’s just my opinion.
H5 Forerunners in general felt like total bullet sponges with the way their armor plating worked, if you don't hit their weak spots they take like no damage. Really made them an unfun slog to fight on Legendary, especially during the numerous wave fights.
The only thing I liked regarding him was getting his assassination animation in warzone to finish the game. Everything else is nah.
@@ZealousAnubis what
Honestly Halo 2 Legendary and Halo 5 Legendary come very close together in terms of fucking hard ass.
Halo 2 has insta-kill everything covenant with one shot sniper jackals
Halo 5 has 100 Warden Eternals
But halo 5 sucks compelete ass and halo 2 doesn't
imo halo 2 is about 1000 times harder but halo 5 still is pretty hard
At least halo 2 is fun
@@craigmeister1241it's one of the best games
"Fun" fact: the director of Halo and his team didn't think that Master Chief was the main character of the Halo franchise. They saw him as (and I quote): "a vessel for adventure rather than necessarily this major character in the universe.
They even said that they knew that we've been following Chief for the entirety of the franchise, but they still didn't see him as a major character in the universe?
Then they introduce Locke, and have him stand toe to toe with a guy that blows up alien armadas for fun. Yeah, this game sucks.
No one cares
Tbh
God, yeah, that was my least favorite part, having locke face chief one on one and kinda winning at first, so fucking dumb
@@jesuschristcunt8469 I do.
You know what I care.
"You throw like a Tee ball pitcher" may just be the best unintentional insult I've ever heard.
I don't think he realized how beautiful that was. The pitcher in tee ball is a stationary post haha
51:10 I love how Chief orders Focus Fire and they all being to shoot at different Wardens.
Halo 1: Humble beginnings, fun to play with room to grow
Halo 2: A huge upgrade on writing, amazing campaign with quality gameplay
Halo 3: Finishing the fight, one headshot at a time, the perfection of halo gameplay
Halo 3 ODST: A somber look into the lives of marines trying to survive, surprisingly good.
Halo Reach: An emotional story about never giving up hope and hopelessness in the face of an impossible enemy, good multi-player with some bullshit
Halo 4: An extremely emotional story that humanized Master Cheif with shit gameplay and the worst multi-player
Halo 5: Gameplays okay, the story is worse than The Room
As a PC player i loved going from HALO 3 HALO ODST to HALO 4. Made you feel like a super soldier and it has the first LMG in a halo game xd
Perfect summary
> Halo 4 "the worst multi-player".
Pretty sure you meant Halo Reach there, bud.
@@Dennis19901 blasphemy
Gotta love how they put all that work into 4s story only to shit all over all it did in 5.
"Halo 5 Is The Worst Halo Campaign"
Also, grass is green.
No its blue
Tbh, halo 4 is probably worse, gameplay wise at least. I played spartan ops, then came back to do lege dary on halo 4, and it made me realise how shallow the encounters and sandbox are
Lost keys (blame Hoffman)
@@henrymarshall8825 the story for halo4 is incredible though, even though the sandbox design is bad
@@henrymarshall8825 4 and 5 feel like polar opposites. 4's story was good but gameplay was awful. 5's story was awful but gameplay was good. I don't understand how they could've fucked up the writing after 4. They had a decent template to work off of already.
Level designers: How many times do you want players to fight Warden Eternal?
343: Yes
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I can't believe 343 managed to make the most hype moment in halo conceptually a boring ass cutscene that flies in the face of any of the lore of who Chief even is, as literally the leader of all the original Spartan IIs, referring to the fight between Chief and Locke
343 took Cortana and made her into one of the series’ worst characters. She’s a textbook god-complex villain.
Remember that part in Halo 2 where she is talking about Regret and says “If I were a megalomaniac, as I’m not, that’s where I’d be.” They made this the most ironic statement in Halo with this awful story.
Well, that version of Cortana was not a megalomaniac. Clearly something happened to her in The Domain.
Halo 5's issue is that it doesn't explain what the hell it did or even what The Domain is.
@@darkphoenix2 Yep. It's a sad case of missed potential. It could've been an interesting arc but since it was handled so poorly, instead of doing right 343 will have to pick up the pieces of the mess of this story and move on
The funniest thing is that one of the original drafts of Combat Evolved was also how Cortana became drunk with power and wanted to take over the universe, but they discarded the idea because it was ridiculous. Check the Combat Evolved developers' commentary.
They could have went with the Logic Plague like HiddenXperia suggested. It makes senses because Mendicant Bias had the same thing happen to him. He was infected, and then sought to destroy his makers, by order of the Primordial (the flood). Why wouldn't Cortana be infected too? She's essentially a Contender-Class AI, like MB, and she spent time with the Gravemind.
@@moxxiiscarlett7141 the problem is that cortana basically got plot armor convenienced, she DID get affected by the the flood in halo 3, but then either in 4 or 5, you are seeking halsey out to basically re-do her structure and "fix" her, which could only happen to her as she is an AI that somehow has dna of halsey in her
(this is all from memory, if somebody else points out a mistake and backs it up with a source, forget what i just said)
"how did you learn to speak archaic alien tongue like that vale?"
oh you know i was bored on a ship for a couple months haha when youre bored youre bored xd lmao
10/10 lore and storywriting
Not to mention that fire team Osiris already worked together before so that conversation doesn’t make any sense since they already know each other and a detail that important where it literally explains what the characters role is not something that someone waits to tell whenever it is convenient for the plot.
@@haydenchu58 Plus spartan helmets have translators lol
Only good thing about Vale is that she is voiced by Laura Bailey
Buck still best thing about Halo 5 tho
@@JayPlusForerunner fr😂 they take shit from the books but forget that was a thing
*"Throws like a T-ball pitcher" is such a great insult.*
It had some good ideas, like having a new playable spartan, the squad mechanic, Arbiter, Swords of sanghelios, and The Domain.
However things such as the marketing, death of Jul M’dama in the first mission, Choreography, Cortana’s evil revival, and most importantly the Lack of Chief after the great development he had gotten in Halo 4.
Halo infinite has corrected the core mistakes, and is a return to form for the series.
I think game developers/directors need to understand something. As a small scale developer with your own game, sure it’s your direction. But once you take on a project like halo (as a new team of people like 343 into halo 4) it’s no longer “your vision,” we, the people paying for this are essentially your investors, we’re making it happen, it’s what we want NOT what you want, we could give less of shit to your shit ideas, unless your a well respected developer. I feel like they know this but it goes right over their head.
As a die hard Halo fan, i am glad Homeless Jesus shares the same opinion.
I agree with you there I only play this for the multiplayer
@@half_metalelf7980 The multiplayer on Halo 5 is alot of fun.
@@DarkLordFromTheSecondAge i cant even agree that it has a good mp cus they removed splitscreen. taking away couch multiplayer from halo is like making super smash bros online only.
@@Skyfoogle Oh yeah, that sucked. The only reason i even bought Halo 5 was to play with my dad in splitscreen. Its like a childhood thing, the first game i ever played was Halo 2 with my dad... But yeah, they fucked even that for us.
@Drunk Doggy yeah if you have no friends lmao
Alternative title: Charlie complaining about the terrible AI for 1 hour.
Just a friendly reminder that a game from 2001 has way smarter and better AI than this game from barely 5 years ago
IM GONNA BUY HALO INFINITE LMAO
@@unforgivablebread6027 cool? So am i, who gives a shit
"throws like a t-ball pitcher" actually a great insult
Imagine master chief down on the ground and says "help, I've fallen and I can't get up"
Fun fact: They marketed this game's squad AI as having been worked on by one of the devs of Republic Commando, a game with genuinely good squadmate AI. I assume they mean he just gave the code a cursory glance and nodded his head on occasion.
The republic commando squad system and ai was amazing back when i got it and still holds up today. I was directly comparing this ai to that and reading this comment felt like someone smacking me in the face. Incredible
It's insulting to remotely have this AI linked to the godly work done in Republic Commando.
I love sitting here and thinking "damn some of these cutscenes are pretty cool" then it cuts back to gameplay and Charlie's getting slapped around like he'd a soggy pickle
The campaign was so bad charlie started to do speedrun strats by the end of it just to finish it faster
Halo 5 team AI: fellow Spartans will miss every shot and stand still every second
Halo infinite marine AI: marines will take the hat off an elite at 2000 yards with the skewer. But they’ll also happily run under a falling warthog when u call one in.
Charlie seemed so happy playing Halo
@卐LouielolBruh卍 damn didn't ask
@卐LouielolBruh卍 what’s wrong with you
PLEASE WHY ARE YOU IN EVERY SECTION-
@@bluesniperlm4425 it's a bot I see it everywhere on multiple accounts just ignore it
It’s halo
'this looks so fucking bad'
'I hear the gameplay is good'
- Jesus Christ on Halo, 2021
Halo 5*
@@leondaventus6981 yeah . Halo 5 is def the tumor black sheep .
Young me didn't even understand the story... The only think I remember is buck and that he was such a fucking trooper and would always revive me
Your profile is cursed.
Okay, "Todd Newell"
@@wealthybone2990 the most funny thing is that absolutely no body realizes it... Your probably the 3rd one
@@toddnewell4869 make me the 4th wtf Is that
I can't believe that there was no one in chat that could tell Charlie that Blue Team (the other Spartan 2's and Chief's team from before Halo CE and in between Halo CE and Halo 2), was trapped in the shield world Onyx during Halo 2, 3, and 4.
oh shit fr?
OH! I read about shield world Onyx in the Halo Mythos book.
I thought during 1 Chief was alone a=on the Autumn, OK, then in 2 they were just on another orbital defense and Chief went with the In Amber Clad and that was just one ship, OK, then 3 I don't remember, but Hidden Xperia has a whole video on it, I'm just saying what I remember from a while ago.
@@CHIEF__ yeah so right before The Fall of Reach, Chief took Linda and another Spartan-II named James (if I recall correctly) on a mission in orbit to destroy an AI aboard a space station. He sent Kelly, Frederic, and Will down to the surface of Reach to protect the batteries powering the orbital MAC stations defending Reach, as well as the remaining Spartan-IIs. During his Op, James' thruster sustained damage from a needler supercombine which yeeted him into space, and Linda got basically melted by plasma fire as they opened the door to the hanger and were ambushed.
Kelly and the others managed to hunker down in Castle base where they also met Halsey and CPO Mendez. During this time they regrouped and managed to steal a few banshees and took over a Covenant ship as well, letting them escape Reach after the planet was destroyed. Where they went directly after I don't recall.
At one point they do reconnect with Kurt, another Spartan-II that was Sam's replacement I think. It's during this time that the events of 'Ghosts of Onyx' take place. My favorite book, personally.
Chief took Linda with him aboard a pelican and got back to the PoA in time for them to make their "random" jump, but Cortana managed to extract a space grid coordinates from an artifact they retrieved on another planet that they thought was just a rock (some people here might remember this part as it's also where we read about a Hunter just giving no Fs as it curbs a jackal to the ground simply for being in its way)
In Halo: CE we can actually "see" Linda. He medical data in on display in the backroom attached to the room that overlooks the cryochamber where you start the game.
FF: Blue team was actually on the Infinity during the events of Halo 4. The brass simply didn't tell them that Chief was alive and vice versa for reasons I don't know.
Also the Didact survives being composed because in the graphic novels, Chief and co. go down and finish his ancient ass off.
Please correct me if I got anything wrong and also tell me why Infinity didn't tell Chief about Blue Team
Well considering that 343 just made that shit up midst desigrating Bungies golden childs rotten corpse, I hate the characters, except Buck, he is actually a Bungie certified character.
You know things are bad when Charlie doesn't include "of All time." in the description
Doesn’t it mean it isn’t as bad
He's trying to cut down on how often he's wrong with Halo, considering Halo Infinite actually exists; there's always time for them to lower the bar.
@@baron.whimsy dude Infinite looks good
My main memory of this game is trying to get close to a knight with the scattergun, it doing basically nothing and being one hit ko'd. Good Times
To be fair that could be Halo 4 as well
You’re several years late with this press release statement, Charlie.
IM GONNA BUY HALO INFINITE LMAO
“They were at my place, sorry.”
This, for some reason, killed me.
“They say the new Halo games are crewed by the damned, and captained by a man so evil that Hell itself spat him back out…”
- Halo fan describing 343 Industries and Chuck Wendig
Nice Pirates of the Caribbean reference
Did you mean Brian Reed? Chuck Wendig is a Star Wars guy, Brian Reed is the guy that wrote Spartan Ops, Halo 5, and "killed" the Didact in a comic.
According to the lore I heard, one of Cheifs teammates named “Linda” was actually present during Halo CE, however, sustained a life threatening injury, so she was locked in cryo.
That's true.
Fred and Linda were trapped in the Forerunner facility on Reach. That's all 4 of them. There's a few others here and there but basically reach took the nearly 300 Spartan 2 and 3s and reduced the number to like 12 or less.
Only about 6 of which are Spartan 2s
Even before halo 3 came out, the books knew Chief wasn't the last living Spartan, he was just the last combat ready Spartan at the time.
Chief wasn't sure any others survived (he knew kinda did but she was frozen)
I’m pretty sure Linda was actually dead for a while in cryo, but got revived. Is that true, or is my memory failing me?
@@GGmanlife As far as I know that's true
@@proudiofficial cool
@@ghostkill221 Wait, what about Kelly? Or is that a typo?
"THEY MADE BUCK A SPARTAN? HE WAS SUPPOSED TO DIE A SHRIVELOUS DEATH"
~Cory Spazkid
I just realized that the whole point of the game is an A.I. uprising, and yet the AI in the game is the worst in the series, if not the genre.
Imagine that the worst halo game makes Charlie so excited.
@卐LouielolBruh卍 LMAO
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Well trash games make him excited more than good ones, he's excited asf in his fast and furious crossroads playthrough
The more excited Charlie is the worse the game is and halo 5 perfectly triggers that reaction
I don't even think the gameplay is worth praising. It doesn't play like halo. Enemies track you to an absurd degree (because of the enhanced mobility) which makes you play it like a cover shooter. The sandbox is highly de-emphasized. Strategy is not as rewarded. The fights feel like shooting galleries.
finally someone said it, and another thing, sure the multiplayer is fun but its not halo, it plays like advanced warfare with shields
@@CanadianCat64Halo 5 has my favorite multiplayer in the series. Shame the campaign is like the visual equivalent to listening to nails on chalkboard
The arenas used to be a lot more option full and what changed between them was the enemies. They used to play off of each other and use strategies. Intelligent design is what separates old halo from new halo where wave based combat seems to be more heavy and prevalent and has bad enemy and friendly ai. Also, apparently 343 originally didn’t even have you play as master chief at all because they didn’t realize that master chief was the main character of the franchise
You know a game is bad when a RTS spine off has to save the main line FPS.
Could you elaborate? I haven't played neither of them
@@HydrogenAction halo wars 2 is an rts halo spinoff game, they had to use it to fix halo 5s awful story, and they did it really well considering halo wars 2 has a really good story
@@calus_bath_water also leading infinite story to actually be decent. Funny considering how much hate halo wars got from the community and bungie themselves.
I want to keep my spine on my body.
Halo 5 ai doesnt go brrrrrr
"Buck is the only one on this team that's worth anything." - The Halo community when this came out
40:00
"At least shoot the generator to save me some fucking ammo."
Tanaka - "I am the ammo."
Tanaka - "who needs ammo when you have *family*"
This game was the most disappointing game I’ve ever played
@@brain_bank48 I agree
I would give that medal to TLOU2, this is still trash tho
Halo 5 did not feel like a halo game. I personally did not enjoy it and the campaign was trash. The multiplayer seemed ok but the gameplay with all the jet boost movement and req stuff in war zone was just a turn off for me. I’ll stick with mcc until infinite comes out, even then many players like me will go back to mcc eventually after infinite dies down
@re e yeah I rlly had no gripes with halo5’s mp, that was fun asf. I still find the early halo multiplayers fun to this day
@re e I would read that as a joke
“Worst AI companions” Charlie has clearly never felt the wonderful feeling of having AI bots in Payday 2
At least they shoot at the enemy and take cover on occasion
There’s also mods to make them better, but halo 5? No hope for them lmao
They made them pretty good with the henchman update a while back actually
AI Bots in Payday 2 can at least shoot and do try to help you up, hell even Halo 5 allies can shoot.
But oh god Battlefield and Battlefront AI, have got to be some of the most useless AI teammates. They can't damage or shoot anything, they are just bullet sponges that look like they are shooting.
@@Jerry-nv4tq After playing battlefield 4's campaign I agree
When he tries to make buck pick up the needler to bait the sniper and it just shoots him anyway i fucking die
343 Studios: What do you mean they don’t enjoy fighting the same boss 15 times!?
Bungie: What do you mean they don't like fighting the same boss for 15 minutes?
Remember when Spartans, while superhuman, still had limitations to what they could do, they weren't just Naruto running through a warzone?
Spartan 2's were pretty much always that good though
@@joeblazer3429 It would have been much cooler to see the difference demonstrated in the gameplay.
the part that makes it fucking stupid is its spartan 4's not 2's doing it the augmentations and armor they have don't even make up the difference between them and 2's they are still lore wise inferior to the likes of chief in every way shape and form yet 343 just goes ohh yea well here's Osiris BS'ing their way through a very hot firefight sequence with so many flaws it should be a war crime to not be killed except buck since well its buck fair enough no one will complain then the best Blue team gets is a private escort to cortana
@@joeblazer3429 No, no they absolutely were not.
Read "The Fall of Reach"
@@Dennis19901 Eric Nylunds book right? Not canon iirc
"That 1 grunt cooking grenades waiting for masterchef to walk around the corner"lol ive never thought of that 🤣🤣
Explaining where Fred, Linda, and Kelly were during 1-4 in a single chat message would be like copy pasting the tragedy of Darth plagueis the wise twice, Bungie never really put anything from the books in games. They've been a part of the halo universe for quite a long time. Also Jorge was the spartan II hence why he was bigger than everyone else
Bungie was smart in that they saved the important lore for the games, and everything else in the books/comics was a bonus; they’d make little nods to the EU for a bit of fan service (like graffiti in Reach mentioning Harvest), but everything else in the story was new information you were learning for the first time.
Meanwhile, story elements in 343 games are basically joined at the hip with the EU; don’t know who the hell Jul ‘Mdama is or why he has Halsey? Should have played Spartan Ops and read the four-part Escalation volumes friend! Why the hell is Cortana still alive, and why is the Warden so devoted to her? Read Tales from Slipspace to know more! Who the hell are Fred, Kelly, and Linda? Better grab the Nylund trilogy of books and get to reading, Soldier!
Even Infinite falls into a trap with this, with the introduction of the Banished and Atriox in particular coming out of fucking nowhere unless you also played Halo Wars 2, read Tales from Slipspace, and the 4-part comic establishing them as a force to rival and ultimately destroy the Covenant.
@@JoeSixThreeOh They went with the Kingdom Hearts model of storytelling, and proceeded to overcomplicate their games in exactly the same way. Why is it that game developers never learn from other game developers?
Charlie why did you force yourself through this torture. The entire Halo fanbase simultaneously cheered and cried upon this video notification.
IM GONNA BUY HALO INFINITE LMAO
@@unforgivablebread6027 halo 5 is basically non canon anymore so halo infinite is gonna be 😍
@@Monkforilla Halo 5 is, unfortunately, completely canon. I just like to pretend that something much better happened instead.
@@squirrel9544 didn’t I hear they are scrapping. The Locke storyline?
@@Monkforilla there's a boss who has Locke's helmet on his shoulder pad, so there's speculation he was killed in-between. I believe it's confirmed that Tanaka is returning, though, so fireteam Osiris isn't gone completely, and infinite has been confirmed as a sequel to halo 5. The whole 'reboot' thing is in reference to it being a spot in the story new players can jump into, as well as refreshing the design and story themes.
Bungie: *Makes the Jackal snipers have god reflexes and one shot in H2 Legendary*
Everyone: Yea don't do that it's horrible
343: Yo what if we made Jackal snipers that 360 no scope you and 1 shot you?