How to Jack up a MK7 GTI on Jack Stands
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- In this video, we show you how to jack up a MK7 GTI, the correct jack points, and how to get the vehicle up on 4 jack stands.
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At the last step, put a wooden block under the left front wheel. This stops the teetering being so bad/dangerous and also allows you to get under with even a regular jack for the last part. Great video!
I was hoping you were going to explain where else BESIDES the pinch welds, to place the Jack stands.
Well for the front, you could jack from the pinch welds and place the jack stands where he placed the jack for the final jack (near pendulum mount)...
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i need to do this for the rear can you help me locate the rear subframe jackstand mounting locations?
@@Convertibenz Depending on your intention for jacking the vehicle, you could place the Jack stands under the lower control arms for the rear wheels. Or there is a cross beam that dips down in the middle where the exhaust splits (at least for Jetta/GLIs, not sure if this exists for GTI).
THANK YOU for posting this!!! It's ridiculous how you have to search for the damn jacking points and VW's manual is useless. It doesn't even show exactly where in the manual.
Thanks for the tips. Wish there was a center jack point up front. I didn’t feel comfy jacking from subframe so just used a scissor jack for the drivers front side. Worked out well.
Why do car manufacturers therefore not just provide 5 or 6x pinch weld supports so you can jack one side and put the stand at the same time as jacking.
Don't know about the other Manufacturers, but VW definitely doesn't want you to fix and service your own vehicle. Their owners manuals are clustered with useless warning labels, that would make a beginner think, he is in serious danger just by opening the hood.
My best guess is first cost of manufacturing and second they want you to go to dealership to do all maintenance.
Thanks for this. I picked up a "plastic hockey puck" with a slit to fit around the pinch weld for jacking. I see you just relied on the jack base. Any more risk of damaging the pinch weld that way? Also a tip, if you're using jack stands on asphalt on a hot day, put a slim piece of scrap plywood under the jack stand to distribute the weight, or you risk leaving marks on the hot asphalt.
My way with VWs is to use a bit of wood to put on top of the jack to spread the load, then jack up one side of the car putting the jack slightly behind (to the rear) of the front jack point (but still along the pinch weld). This lifts the side of the car up evenly, so you can put the jack stands on each jack point front and rear. Then, go around to the other side of the car and jack up in the same place (just to the rear of the front jack point) then put the jack stands on the front and rear jack points.
Has never failed me and is much safer than this method because the car never teeters around like this
HI i have a few questions about your method. is this for a mk7 gti? can i use a hockey puck instead of a wood block? if i cant use a hockey puck, what kind of wood should i use? a block or plank?
David Palacios Hockey puck is fine
Good point. A larger piece of wood would spread out the force along the seam.
This exactly. Way easier to control. Just while jacking always peek to see you are not bending the pinch weld and you should be good.
Yea, seeing a car teeter like that will give me a heart attack :D one of those jack stand can just cave and game over, I better have ninja reflexes to jump out of the way
Thanks DAP, once more, I was able to rotate my tires easily at home. Test drove the gti and man what a difference after 15k.
When I had my Miata a few decades ago, I bought a floor jack adapter that has a circular base that fits inside the pad on my floor jack and it has two vertical "lips" that fit on both sides of the pinch weld. I could use it anywhere along the weld seam on or off the lift points without damaging the car. It is solid steel and I don't think it is made any more because it was expensive but there are may other similar models out there made of CNC aluminum or rubber. Do a search and you may find something you like. I still use mine all the time on my VW Rabbit. I use it to lift beside the lift point so I can lower the lift point onto the stationary jack.
I have something similar. Kind of like a hockey puck with a grove. It is also used for VWs to ensure that the pinch welds aren't deformed.
If your car is low and the jack won't fit under then you can always use small ramps. You can make ramps out of wood that will give you enough room in a pinch.
Always make sure you set the parking brake and if you are a manual transmission, put your car in first gear (park for autos obviously)
I tried this 2x and while it's safe for raising 1 side, when trying to do this the other side the car always slides out a bit making it a bit unsafe.
So simple, but very helpful. I just need to rotate the tires, but this will make it a snap. The only thing that could have improved this video is if Charles was there.
Are there any risks to lifting the car like this? I'm just worried that it will cause things to bend.
I would have placed a wooden block to jack the subframe portion.
up this is not a bad idea
wood is always your friend when jacking up your car
Or a rubber puck
I've jacked so many cars and I love this car but the jack points were so confusing to find
Great video! There are very little sources that give you such an informative detailed guide about jacking your car up. Thanks 😁
If the frame rails are still there, those are my preferred jackpoints on the MKIV's and MKV's. This way I can get each side up easily and set the jack stands on the pinch welds. I'm leary of people who put them on the control arms as they are both slippery and then prevent access to replacing the arms. For the rear I just jack the rear off of the center large metal pipe/support thing on my MKV, then place the two stands in place (don't jack on your exhaust, this is some structural member who's name is escaping me right now).
It can be concerning to jack on plastic, and it slightly marrs it without protection, however since the 'frame rails" (Yes, I know this is a unibody, bear with me) are key structural supports, I've never had an issue jacking on them.
I can't say if this will damage the plastic as one side was already cracked when I got the vehicle, but the other is fine. Using some caution should tell you if the plastic is overstressed or not.
Although to be honest, my MKIV was fine for 16 years with no plastic. It doesn't seem entirely needed to myself, however it does keep the underbody a bit cleaner.
Thank god someone finally did this!
Glad we could help
Deutsche Auto Parts on another note, would you guys recommend building the engine before going to JB4 Meth on an APR stage 2 high torque GTI? I like going fast, but I don't wanna blow up...
You need to build for sure. Either way, a reliable meth setup will either cost a ton in a good quality build or a ton in the repairs.
The way I lift my Mk4 (should apply to Mk7 too) was to use long low profile jack (similar to his) and jack up the subframe from the front using a 2ft 2x4 (to distribute weight) remember to block rear wheels place jack stands at front pinch welds, in the rear 2x4 again jack from rear on the rear beam axle and jack stands on rear pinch welds. I know Mk7's have independent rear but there's got to be somewhere sturdy to jack from in the rear...rear sub frame similar to the front?
This way I described is safer IMO at least you have car firmly planted with BOTH rears on solid footing when lifting front and jack stands supporting BOTH sides in front when lifting rear of car.
Now maybe he did it like the way he did because the car is too low to get jack under car like I described (probably so) if that's the case just jack each corner place wood blocks under each tire to raise car first to get jack under as described above...a little more work but much safer...remember to sweep floor first so jack can roll freely.
I agree this would be far safer and is exactly how I would do it too. Cheers Drew
Glad I found this video. I’ve got a TDI so center exit exhaust is not something I deal with. So for the rears I just go off the middle of the rear suspension. I’ve been looking for a solution for the front though.
Is this really how complicated my jacking procedure is going to be to change the oil? 🤔The search continues. Edit: I missed the part where you can't just start from the front subframe? Surely if I can reach that (especially from the front of the car), and am only intending to put the front up that makes more sense than starting from the rear pinch weld?
Both my Mk7 Sportwagen and Mk7 GTI came with little triangular markings on the side skirts that point right at the correct jack points on the pinch welds. Don't they all?
I recently bought a Mk7 TDI Sportwagen SEL (Fantastic car!) and hadn't noticed those. Thanks for pointing them out. Mine are somewhat hidden by the pebble finish rocker panel coating and could be easily mistaken for just a bit of road or jack damage, more of a small dent than a triangle. Really handy, especially for the rear, because, as Paul said, the rear jack points aren't that much different looking than the pinch weld flange. A handy reference when serching for the jack point in the rain....at night.....been there, done that, (on my Mk6)...hated it!
Thanks for video I was just wondering if u could use front sub frame and lift the front then put both front jackstands than do the same for rear!?
Sooooo much brilliant info on your channel, Paul. You and Charles.
Thx man, used this on my mk4 TDI.All golf's are basically the same.
Mkiv is a solid rear suspension, not independent. I slide a jack under the rear middle there and Jack it up and place jack stands under pinches, so easy for mkiv rear. Older women don't play games
@@Hedgehodge- Aaa thanks man for the info,what i men't was that all the jack point's he used in the video i can use on my Mk4 Golf :) the suspension is different ofcourse.
This is insane, anyone else but you guys and I would be calling bullshit on this
I wish there was a way to jack up the front from under the grill by using the subframe without bending it, so that you could place both jack stands under the front at their jacking points.
Yea.. that would make too much sense. The engineers at VW that designed a car with no front/rear jack points.. odd.
Tonipepperoni77 I'd like to know what those points are. Some guys one the forums I follow have bent metal when doing that.
Tonipepperoni77 well if I had a rear differential, I would certainly use it to jack. I have a GTI, not an R. There is no rear diff.
there is a way!!! get a cross bar that goes on the jack. Problem solved, I have a 3 ton Daytona jack with the jack cross bar and I lift the front up first, put two stand in place lower it then move to the back lift it up place the stand lower it all done!!
I am curious as to how you would jack the car to put in just the two front stands with the rear wheels chocked.
just get ramps, or use the subframe, or jack from rear both times and put the jack stands under the front
Would this work if I wanted to jack the front only... jacking thru the rear pinch welds ? And getting a jack in the front portion of the car??
Can you do one of these for the MK5 Jetta? There doesn't seem to be anything specific available.
Is there a better way of fucking those jack points up?
can you just use the front subframe as a central lif point?
@deutscheautoparts What about jacking up both wheels simultaneously from the rear via large black tubular part of the rear subframe (adjacent the fuel tank) looks like a solid jack point to lift up, then, place jacks at pinch welds, no?
nice video. All the info you put out there is great!
Love the styling on your MK7.
Is that a wrap on your roof going down the side, or is it a paint job?
Thanks.
Great video finally its was always confusing to me..thanx again
Awesome to hear. Thanks for watching!
Is there a link to purchase that Floor jack in the video?
I like this whole start from the rear thing… gives less steps to getting the car up.
Would it be ok to place only two jack stands at the front for oil change?
I needed this badly, thank you so much, Paul!
Very cool! Would this be similar to a Jetta? Thank you!
Why can't manufacturers make a dedicated easy to know jack points on every car it's not even that hard to make one and doesn't need any R&D other than just pure engineering common sense which I think many in Automotive industry certainly lack off
What's up with them 👖 tho
Hey Paul, I would like to see you do a video on vacuum suction oil change.
We will have one coming in the future.... Stay tuned
I always thought you jacked the front of the car first? Thats how I was taught in my automotive class
That's how I do it on the VW. Front really high you can get a stand under front LCA mount and one under rear sill jack point at same time.
Then do other side same.
It's slightly sketch but...You can always trade it in for a car from a company that doesn't hate its customers lol
same process for MKVs (2005-2010 GTI, GLI, JETTA, RABBIT, GOLF) I assume?
Could you also jack from the center of both subframes and do both sides at once?
ThexGreatxLTS not really, the car isnt contrallable in balance while lifting it up in that way.
Nice video. I will try this method on my B8 S4.
If you want to preserve your car don't jack or put jack stands on the pinch weld. It's somewhat tolerable to use a four point lift on the pinch weld, the cars weight is spread to four points as opposed to so much of the weight being on just one point. Save the pinch welds!!
The pinch welds are the ONLY jack point on the mk7 (manufacturer approved anyway) they are reinforced in those 4 places. Over twice as thick
Great videos but you should have an other video showing the removal of the jack stands. Thanks
What is the load capacity of the floorjack? Maybe even the model
Thanks
You went to all that trouble when you could have just jacked from the front subframe to begin with? And you should do the front first as I would rather have the rear prevented from rolling by the handbrake than rely on the gearbox holding the car in place.
I had it all wrong, thanks. Would this same method work on an mk4 or a b6? I have a mk6 gti 2.0t also. I'll remember this come spring when I have to do the usual stuff to the cars. Thanks for a great video.
Hi thanks for the video...I own a MK6 R...is it to be done the same way as for the Gti or is there a difference I should pay attention to? Thanks
Would this work for an alltrack?
The jackspot steel looks quite decayed? Anyway, I think the car looks better without the gray piece, or if entire rear is gray. But personal opinion. Thanks for the video!! Would be great if you show pictures of jacked underneath.
I've always thrown the front jack stands underneath the control arms. I guess this way works too. Just a bit more work haha.
+DiscGolfinSOB that works if they are steel but some models have aluminum control arms in which case you wouldn't want to do that.
I put them under where the rear of the font LCA mounts.
That bushing and bolt should be strong enough to support weight.
Rears go under sill jack point.
I have a MK5 Jetta, so it should be the same right? Thank you.
really strange way of jacking, with a normal cheap you can t lift it so high ...
I have a mk7 r and have always lifted it from the rail that runs alongside the car and then placed the jack stands under the lift point spots, haven’t had any problems from this, is it not alright to use that point just to get the car up?
Naw man, that's the slow method, not to mention more dangerous...
Better to jack from the front jack-point, set a jackstand at rear jack-point AND under a front-subframe-chassi bolt head.
On that note: Anyone have good ideas on better front jack-stand locations?
I'll be fitting my Alltrack engine bay pan this fall... nice CFRP piece with direct mount to the front bumper-chassis point.
Hypothesis: I can make that point a beefed-up forward jacking-point!
I always wondered what is the name of the decal you have on the backside in a > shape?
Helloo, is it safe to jack from the subframe? It will not crak?
That is a nice vinyl wrap job. Is that gunmetal metallic? I would like to do the same but not sure if I want that color or a matt black on black car
I would go with Matt black on black, but either way would look good. IMO.
I take it this applies to the MK7 Golf R as well?
It would be nice if you could use the rear diff as a jack point, like you can with STIs.
And MX5's
no mention of jack adapters to protect ur pinch ??
There is such a thing. I bought one for my Miata (can't remember where) which works great. It is circular and small enough in diameter to fit on the lift point of the floor jack and it has a vertical part with "lips" that go on both sides of the pinch weld. Never gave me a problem with hundreds of lifts. If I can find the link, I will place it here. It's kind of pricey but worth it since it is solid steel and very heavy duty.
Hi Deutsche auto just like to say love your videos especially for Mk 7 my question is about wrap design you have rear quarter looks goods I have an gtd in black I love to install. Wanting that design too red black combe I hope this makes sense
Where did you purchase that low profile jack from?
I always lift the front first, then get the back up.
Do the pinch welds get crushed doing that, the jack that comes with the car has a bridge to go over the pinch weld. ???
i put a hockey puck on my jack as a pad, some people use wood. if you want to be extra cautious you can cut a groove into the puck
Hi , great videos . I have a 2017 gti and recently bought a Daytona 3 ton jack but not low profile ,its regular. I didn't use it yet and just want to know will it work or do I need a low profile ?..ty
You can use it, but you might have to use the car's jack to get it lifted up enough to get your jack underneath it.
Will this work on a 2015 VW Sportwagen
can i know which color do you wrapped the roof ??
Could you please make a video how we can remove MK7 GTI front bumper?
+IMP check out our headlight install video we show you there
Thank you so much.....this helped a lot and kept me safe in the process.
I'm trying to find a decent priced & useful jack, like the one this dude is using, for my MkV. Not looking for cheap, looking for best deal/bang for my buck. The MkV weighs some 3200lbs. Don't know how many tons that is. Can you recommend one? Thanks 🤘🏼
geekphreak Do you have a Harbor Freight near you? They have good prices plus usually have coupons.
2000 lbs = 1 ton, but that is the entire car's weight over both axles. I would suggest at least a 2 ton jack to be safe. As for make/model, most jacks are fairly equal. I have Pittsburgh Steel models from Harbor Freight that have worked for years with the proper oil maintenance from time to time.
what kind of vinyl wrap is that on the back?!
What is going on with the rocker panels? It looks like some sort of protective spray?
Factory undercoating
What would be the proper procedure to get the car back down from the jack stands?
just reverse the order
What brand and model floor jack is that?
Does this work for the 15 a3 8v?
thanks
What jack is that?
The seems will get crushes if you do like that. You'll need adapters. Don't ask me how I know.
where do i get that sweet wrap?
My rear lifts but the front wont lift with the jack at the rear what will I do next 🤣
I want to install a 034 dogbone mount and I tried this method last night. I need to get the car higher than the jackstands will safely allow. The bolt is pretty far back and I had nightmares of the car falling on me as I attemp to remove the bolt.
Any other suggestions? Can I use 4 jackstands with the height pretty much maxed out?
Boggles Boggles you really don't have to jack it up that high. when I did mine last weekend I just jacked up the front. I used the subframe to jack up both sides at once and put the jack stands on the pinch welds. Block off the back tires and good to go. I had enough room for my fat ass to get under there!
I did the same thing. should be fine
Boggles Boggles...If you're worried about the car falling or even if your not, put a wheel w/tire under each side at pinch weld area of car as close to jack stands as possible so just in case it falls you'll not be totally squished. Or anything solid that will prevent car from falling on you, maybe a 4x4 + wheel/tire.
HOW DO YOU GET IT OFF THE JACK STANDS ??!!?????!
Anyone knows how to do a black c pillar like this GTI? Pasti dip?
Its a wrap
i thought you werent supposed to lift the vehicle on 4 jack stands? i swear my jackstands say it if im not mistaken lol
I always get paranoid when I'm working under a car that's sitting on jack stands😵They just don't feel as safe as the car lift machines in workshops
do you recommend a cobb or apr tune for mk7 gti?
Thank youi
seriously where is the mk5 project!?
Coming... Some fab parts are on order
The trick is to use more than one jack to avoid the teetering. 🤫
Sheeeit race ramps might be easier for oil changes
Dan Lee yes they are
what do you call this rap that's on the vehicle
my pinch welds bent wtf
You need to jack it really hard in order to keep it from being bent.
/jk
instructions not clear; brother Jack disinvited from family thanksgiving